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GPS on Universal WM5

despite a lot of digging none of the suggestions for getting a BT/GPS working did the job for me, well, they did for TT5 sometimes but did not work for the Garmin software.
I then after reading some more had a bright idea, why not just create a registry entry in HKLM Drivers with just a blank COM4 entry, after all, the problem seems to be that the com port is not fully established until the software starts talking, and the Garmin software does not show it till it is fully established - no doubt some of you will better understand the inside than me !!!
anyway, for the first time my garmin que software with my garmin gps10 is actually showing where i am ;-)

sgordon said:
despite a lot of digging none of the suggestions for getting a BT/GPS working did the job for me, well, they did for TT5 sometimes but did not work for the Garmin software.
I then after reading some more had a bright idea, why not just create a registry entry in HKLM Drivers with just a blank COM4 entry, after all, the problem seems to be that the com port is not fully established until the software starts talking, and the Garmin software does not show it till it is fully established - no doubt some of you will better understand the inside than me !!!
anyway, for the first time my garmin que software with my garmin gps10 is actually showing where i am ;-)
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Can you tell us exactly the key you have added?

i created a key
hkey_local_machine/drviers/active/73
and in there created a string value
Name = COM4:
this method does not seem to work for tomtom5 but the other methods posted work for that, but for garmin que with gps10 (along with the regedit to unhide the interface option onque) i can then see an extra entry onthe com list and when i select that que detects com4 and finds the gps and works.
i suspect there is something else i should do as for some reason the entry in garmin que shows up as a blank line or with a square instead of listed as com4, but que lets me select it anyway !!

Mapsource and Que on WM5
Thanks, this sorted out my problem. Now I'm able to link my JasJar and GPS10.
Now I have problem with my Mapsource and nRoute. They do not detect the device.
Any ideas?

Hi,
i have not really tried using nroute at all to be honest, though i do use mapsource on my pc - indeed i have used it for several years as i also have a streetpilot 3 that came with my motorbike ;-)
that part i had no problem with.... apart from the garmin registration being a little complicated !!!!! if i remember right (i am not at home) you have to register the maps against the serial number of the gps (this is the serial number which is on the label and the registration card). this is done on the garmin website. that gives you an unlock code which you enter in to mapsource itself.
you can then use mapsource to select what maps to copy, the easiest way is to take the sd-card from your jasjar and put it into a card reader in the pc, and mapsource writes them straight down. then put the card back in to the jasjar.
actually, garmin are quite helpful, and they allow you to unlock each map against two gps's so i now have all my maps unlocked against both my streetpilot3 and my gps10/que.
you can see on the garmin website what is or is not unlocked. i guess the files mapsource creates have some sort of signature so that when que runs it knows if the maps are being used against the correct gps.
the other good news is that i have tomtom running as well, i simply go to the gps menu of the jasjar to enable the access-managegpsautomatically when i want to use tomtom which then works happily against the logical port, and disable it when i want to use que which works against the actual bluetooth com port.
let me know if you still have problems and i will write again when at home with my pc and mapsource

it seams accept com8 when you set the outgoing port in the bt setting with tt5

Re: Mapsource and Que on WM5
gerharden said:
Thanks, this sorted out my problem. Now I'm able to link my JasJar and GPS10.
Now I have problem with my Mapsource and nRoute. They do not detect the device.
Any ideas?
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Same here! Detect nothing....
I really want to transfer the maps, and that can´t be done without detection.. please help!

downloading maps
well, i have not used nroute at all, but mapsource can download direct to a memory card (SD or whatever) using any normal pc adapter, and then when you put the card into your universal, because the universal has detected the gps10 it will open the maps no problem. before doing the download you simply have to register the maps against the gps serial number - this is done on the garmin website, that gives you the unlock code which you enter into mapsource.

Re: downloading maps
sgordon said:
well, i have not used nroute at all, but mapsource can download direct to a memory card (SD or whatever) using any normal pc adapter, and then when you put the card into your universal, because the universal has detected the gps10 it will open the maps no problem. before doing the download you simply have to register the maps against the gps serial number - this is done on the garmin website, that gives you the unlock code which you enter into mapsource.
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The problem is that I can´t send it to my device.
Have ulocked all maps already.. pressing the send to device botton and it workes... only on my Qtek S100. Now on my Wm2005 device...
And it is only the new device I would like to use..
So, the problem is that I cant get the maps to the 2005 device.

I followed the steps from the first post in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 link and worked fine for me

shaytaan said:
I followed the steps from the first post in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 link and worked fine for me
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I know that Garmin said that there GPS 10 is not compatible with this one.
But I manage to make some settings so i could pair the units together.
Only one problem.. when I try to install basic map and other maps my computer wont find the device.
It says that the unit is not connected...
My Qtek S100 workes directly.. but I have just upgraded to 9100 and would like to get it to work..
Any suggestions?

PPC-6700 with Garmin GPS 10 BT
This is EXACTLY where I am at as well with my PPC and the GPS 10. I don't understand how it can detect the PPC-6700 and install the Que software and the Voice files through ActiveSync, but yet when you get to the installation part of the basemaps, it doesn't detect?!?! Something doesn't make sense! If you call Garmin, they will just inform you that the R&D team has not come up with a solution as of yet, and when they do, it will be available for download in the updates section. If you look on the setup cd with the basemaps, they are .img files, but I cannot find a program to manipulate them. I was thinking of maybe finding out a program to "uncomrpess" the .img basemaps from the CD then copy them over to the PPC. Any suggestions?

Garmin iQue issue
I was spending quite a while looking for this issue already.l
Had some help from Garmin to proceed with com port allocation.
But for the issue with Mapsource to Garmin link they doesn't reply at all.
My clue is that something wrong with RAPI interface which has changed between ActiveSync 3.8+WM03 and 4.0+WM05.
If you watch how older devices work you can see that ActiveSync launches (on PPC) RapiSrv.exe program which will deal with Mapsource by the use of QueRapi.dll.
I've looked for the number of documents on Microsoft regarding new activesync and wm2005, looks like we need new version of ppcQue.
I use Imate Kjam + GPS10
If you find some fix, please drop me a text on mekel#yandex.ru.
Thanx.

Universal vs BT GPS
My HW: T-Mobile DE MDA Pro with I-mate ROM - Emtac Wayfinder BT GPS
The main thing was the fluent line from BT hardware port to my iGO Navigation software. At the beginning, in iGO, I only saw the reserved COM ports. BUT
1. Use Bluetooth manager to connect GPS reciever and set Outgoing port to COM0
2. Use the registry editor to create the GPS Settings icon in Settings (HKLM\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\Hide -> value: 0
3. Use the GPS Settings setup, to mount HW port to COM0, SW port to COM4
4. Install franson GPS Gate, and set up using Input port: physical COM4, Output port (create) virtual port COM8
5. Install iGO, and select COM8, to get the coordinates for the ride
This works for me, hope to others as well!
BUT: after a soft reset, it isn't reachable. That is because active ports on the HTC Uni are dynamically changed after a soft reset. I'm working on a constant solution...
Byez,
Balazs [HUN]

oziexplorer
Has anyone tryed using oziexplorer on there universal?

Re: oziexplorer
guinevere said:
Has anyone tryed using oziexplorer on there universal?
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No but I've used Memory-Map with great success. Took the same fiddling as Tomtom to get the GPS COM port working.

6 days later, gps10, is working
After trawling through a load of forums and after reading this one i thought i would put my solution, probably a bit late.
Firstly bought the full gps10 package from rs, loaded nroute on the laptop unlocked the maps, loaded the universal (m5000) with que, then the tried to upload the maps. didnt recgonise the pda. so then tried to get the bt gps working and that failed as well.
got gpsproxy working but it was a bit hit and miss, so called garmin and asked them why they sell it when it dosent work, was just about to have a good old shout at them when they offerd to e-mail me a new patch.
So installed the new garminque.exe file over the top of the new one and it picked up the bt/gps on com4. easy enough. then tried again to upload the maps but no joy, borrowed a card read/writer from work took that home and mapinstall worked fine chose my maps and tested it last night.
So if you are having trouble i'm posting the file so other people should find it a bit easier, hope this helps. oh my sd card is a 1gb fujitsu sd card
The full instructions from garmin follow
Here is a fix for the GPS 10 Bluetooth connection problems with a Windows
Mobile 5 Pocket PC. I have written out more detailed instructions that
should be easy for the customer to follow and implement:
Thank you for contacting Garmin International
Rename the attached file from GarminQue.zip_ to GarminQue.zip so WinZip will
recognize the extension.
Double click on the file and it should unzip. Unzip this to the desktop,
this will unzip to the file garminque.exe
To install... drop the GarminQue.exe file in the \Garmin\ directory and
overwrite the previously installed .exe. on the unit itself.
You can do this by going into the My Computer Icon. Double click on Mobile
Device. Double click on My Pocket PC. Double click on the Garmin folder.
Here is where you copy the garminque.exe.
This will put the modified file right on the unit itself. This will then
allow the software to use the unit's available com ports instead of looking
for just com 2 and com 7.

Read here regarding sync with Device (had the similar issue)
_http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46536&highlight=

P3600 - TomTom installation - GPS receiver ??

Hi !
I installed the GPS-enabled ROM from the HTC Homepage - and TomTom 6 for Pocket PC - not the Trial Version from the HTC Homepage.
but when configuring the GPS receiver - I can not find any build-in device..
It`s only "other GPS receiver", Bluetooth-GPS receiver and so on.
could you please help me ???
thx
hans

Read other threads...
There are a lot of threads about GPS and TomTom

go to the TomTom site and look for the PocketPC upgrade that is specific to the HTC devices. it will upgrade TomTom so you can select the internal GPS receiver. for now, you can also use the "Other NMEA" device.

maps ?
Hi !
thanks !
I installed my TomTom6 Version - and downloaded the Plugin for the HTC device.
But I had to install this TomTomHome Software in order to install this plugin.
but when I want to configure TomTom it tells me that I could download
one map for free..
BUT I want to use my existing "Western Europe" maps.
I copied them to "My Documents" - but it doesn`t recognise it...
Could you please tell me how I could re-use me TomTom6 maps.
thx
hans

Put the map folder back in the memory card root

Tomtom7 on titan?

anyone tried tt7n on the titan? i cant get it to installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401619

I also get an error when installing. A few folks have extracted the files from the cab, renamed the files according to the xml included, and are able to use it. Now just waiting on someone to kindly post those files, but it seems like it should work soon enough.

i used wince cab manager to extract the files to the appropriate folders. still no go. when launch, it still says that the app is not compatible with the device.

here is a cab file that will work on the titan.... don't ask where to find maps you're on your own
http://rapidshare.com/files/124030856/tomtom7a.rar.html

Map won't work
I have TomTom 6 with all my maps, but they won't work with this TomTom 7. Anyone knows what I can do? Maybe where to place the files?

What is the difference in TT6 and TT7?

works
Just installed Tom Tom 7.450.9028 with USA_and_Canada 720.1803 map and it works just fine.
Be sure to put the Map and Voices in their own folder on the storage card
I have Garmin XT 50 and Tom Tom 7 on my device - both work fine. Waiting to try IGO8 whenever they finally release the version 8 maps. Come on NAV-N-GO !!!
I still prefer using my bluetooth GPS versus the onboard GPS
Mule

Muledeer said:
Just installed Tom Tom 7.450.9028 with USA_and_Canada 720.1803 map and it works just fine.
Be sure to put the Map and Voices in their own folder on the storage card
I have Garmin XT 50 and Tom Tom 7 on my device - both work fine. Waiting to try IGO8 whenever they finally release the version 8 maps. Come on NAV-N-GO !!!
I still prefer using my bluetooth GPS versus the onboard GPS
Mule
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I had them placed in their folders on the memory card and still no luck. Please can you give a step by step guide on how to do this? It would be much appreciated
Thanx

Damionix said:
I have TomTom 6 with all my maps, but they won't work with this TomTom 7. Anyone knows what I can do? Maybe where to place the files?
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there aren't any files you can just replace....
you are going to need to find new maps... here are the maps i need the internet is a great big place im sure you can fine it some where "USA_and_Canada_720.1803"

chong67 said:
What is the difference in TT6 and TT7?
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there is a lot... just install the app and find out for urself

out of curiousity.. has anyone been able to get this to work without first priming the gps? i have it installed and maps working fine, but even with the settings for the built-in device, i still have to run a separate program to initiate the gps lock...

Damionix said:
I had them placed in their folders on the memory card and still no luck. Please can you give a step by step guide on how to do this? It would be much appreciated
Thanx
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1. drop the tt7 cab file on the storage card
2. run the cab file from the PPC
3. install to storage drive - delete cab file
4. get latest map and activate it for your device
5. copy \Voices, \your map to the root directory of storage card
6. run tom tom 7
Mule

anyone got tomtom home and mapshare to work with the titan? a couple of ppl got it to work with the kaiser.

Interesting...
I currently have the latest TT6 with latest 675.xx U.S. maps. What actual changes/improvements can we expect in TT7?
I was also wondering if they have fixed an annoying bug in TT6. Any time you launch TT6 it ALWAYS defaults to disabling Audio and you have to manually go into preferences and enable it _twice_ before you get sound. This is a documented, well known issue and it deals with how TT6 detects the radio as an active data connection and thus mutes audio since it thinks a communication is open (or something like that, may have it wrong). I believe it is designed to work like this as its present in all builds but it is a bit annoying.

Alpine- said:
Interesting...
I currently have the latest TT6 with latest 675.xx U.S. maps. What actual changes/improvements can we expect in TT7?
I was also wondering if they have fixed an annoying bug in TT6. Any time you launch TT6 it ALWAYS defaults to disabling Audio and you have to manually go into preferences and enable it _twice_ before you get sound. This is a documented, well known issue and it deals with how TT6 detects the radio as an active data connection and thus mutes audio since it thinks a communication is open (or something like that, may have it wrong). I believe it is designed to work like this as its present in all builds but it is a bit annoying.
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ttn7 interface had some touch up, but remain pretty much the same as tt6. however, there are several big improvements, including the ability to use newer map and the ability of mapshare/map correction, and stronger and better routing engine. newer map is always better. all of the verson tt 6 maps were missing my cousin new area and my girlfriend's neighborhood. version 7 map has them. i havent got a chance to get mapshare working with my titan yet, but hope it would work one day. i tested the routing with tt7 by entering several destinations that im familiar with, such as my brothers and my sisters's places, parents and friends home, and tt7 gives me the best route that i would likely take. with the destinations that i have tried, i can say that routing of tt7 is much better than, iguidance, garmin xt, and tt6.
the voice/audio bug that you mentioned with tt6 6.032 is not there in tt7. for the same reason, i used tt6 6.02 instead of 6.032. tt6.02 doesnt have this issue. for some reasons, tt6.032 doesnt see your voice file at launch.

Just got this going right now after an interesting install. Works great, love having the newest map and engine. If anyone needs a walkthrough PM me and I will help as much as I can.

How do you install the maps I have the USA_and_ Canada_720.1803. Its over 800 MBs, that wont fit on my phone. Do i need just certain files out of the map folder?

ws6kid said:
How do you install the maps I have the USA_and_ Canada_720.1803. Its over 800 MBs, that wont fit on my phone. Do i need just certain files out of the map folder?
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You will need to put the map and voices folders on the root of the sd card. The program cab should be run and they will find each other.

Is there another mirror for the app (not the maps, the app)? The one posted earlier in this thread was removed from rapidshare, and this one doesn't seem to work on the titan.

Hordee said:
out of curiousity.. has anyone been able to get this to work without first priming the gps? i have it installed and maps working fine, but even with the settings for the built-in device, i still have to run a separate program to initiate the gps lock...
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I was wondering this as well.

GPS Navigation

I have spent the evening reading all the posts on navigation. Have tried Tom Tom 6 and 7 with out success, tried the versions below:
TomTom 7 V7.450
TomTom 7 V7.910 (9185)(free ram 122.6)
TomTom 6 V6.033 (8358)
Please help, device just locks up

i tried to use many programs but they didnt work properly then i used Igo8 its perfect try it out

i have Garmin Mobile XT version 5 with 2009 maps. everything works fine but there is a lag of about 1-3secounds i guess? its fine but annoying when you have to do a couple turns one after another.. but oh well.. good enough. i tried Tom Tom 7.9 and 7.4 and they worked but i didn't like the layout and features\\
EDIT: im trying to get rid of the lag but im not sure how... does anyone have an SD card tune up? or know anything else i can do?

I'm using Tomtom 7.910 build 9185 with the 815.2024 maps, and it works like a charm. Try getting another version with the same buidl as mine.

Route 66
Have a look at "route 66" (66.com). seems to be working on a HD.

hm ... i got the v7.450 version workin on my hd.

TomTom 7.910 / Map v675 - West Europe.
Installation using the cab for TT and tomtom home for the map.
No lag, no installation issue, it just works.

Can you post the cab? Maybe mine is bad
aimache said:
TomTom 7.910 / Map v675 - West Europe.
Installation using the cab for TT and tomtom home for the map.
No lag, no installation issue, it just works.
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VJUP3XXT
This is the .cab i used and it works fine

Assuming I use this cab on my HD and it works, what do i have to do to get maps for it?
I assume i go to tomtom.com -> maps and choose Navigator 7 there, but then it asks for which device I want the map... does it matter what I choose there?
edit: tested the cab, seems to work, but of course i have neither voices nor maps. Have to try to get those...
edit2: if i try to add something to the device using tomtom home it always tells me that i have the wrong version of tomtom installed and that i therefore cannot use tomtom home. so, how do i get the standardvoices or a (at the moment purely hypothetic) seperately bought map onto the HD?

TomTom on this phone?

How do I install TomTom on this phone? I have tried to install from a cab file that I used successfully on a Touch Pro but the installation fails on the Touch2 reporting the application as incompatible.
Can you please point to a TomTom cab file that works with WM6.5?
Even better if it is a version where I can activate a free local map as in fact that's all is need on this phone....
Thanks.

There are certain sources that provide QVGA cabs, google is your friend.

The QVGA version easily found googling has problems with WM6.5: it screws the Bluetooth stack.

Ah that explains why my bluetooth isnt working anymore, well Navigation is more useful then bluetooth for me.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4898541&postcount=8
Do this and both bluetooth and tomtom will work.

i didn't have a problem with tomtom 7 installing on the htc touch 2 aka mega.
I even got it working with my external gps. so bluetooth doesn't stop working with my cellphone. I will try tomtom 7 + bluetooth external GPS + Bluetooth earphone this evening to test if even that will work

After installing TT7 just delete these 2 files BtSdkCE30.dll & BtCoreIf.dll from Windows directory. Bluetooth stack will work again

Touch2 Tomtom screenshot
Can any post a screenshot of Tomtom on the Touch2 please.
I'm thinking of buying this phone but i'm afraid the screen will be too small for tomtom.
Would be much appreciated.

From the small test i did, it works fine although it seems to suffer a small lag, it remembered my previous diamond, ...
Here a screenshot i've take inside my home, for me the visual it's good ( not awesome but still good )

Good enough to use. Bought this phone. Loving it more the more i use it.
Thanks for the trouble making the screen. xx

tomtom works fine on my HTC with MEGA:
tomtom navigator 7910
Wester Europe

Please, how to delete those 2 files
gl0b said:
After installing TT7 just delete these 2 files BtSdkCE30.dll & BtCoreIf.dll from Windows directory. Bluetooth stack will work again
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Hi,
I have a hard time to find those 2 files in windows directory.
please help

bob8x said:
From the small test i did, it works fine although it seems to suffer a small lag, it remembered my previous diamond, ...
Here a screenshot i've take inside my home, for me the visual it's good ( not awesome but still good )
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You can make the visual map screen bigger by selecting less elements in the statusbar....I use only remaining distance, arrival time and speed.....
Also the colorscheme you use makes quite a difference in visibility...can recommend you "default contrast" for the day and Vapno for the night. Via TomTom website many many schemes available.

jasontran2010 said:
Hi,
I have a hard time to find those 2 files in windows directory.
please help
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Just install Total Commander, and browse your Windows directory to delete those files.
Easy

Trouble installing Navigator 7
I have a Touch 2 with Windows 6.5 and recently bought Tomtom Navigator 7 on a memory card from Handtec. I had trouble getting it to install so here are my notes & instructions which I hope will help others in future.
The Tomtom web site says that the Touch 2 is compatible with Navigator 7 but when I tried to install the software it said my device was incompatible with the version of software. Strangely, given that Navigator 7 is supposed to be new, the newest “modified” date of any of the software on the memory card is June 2009, more than a year ago.
I logged a question with Tomtom support after logging into my account on their web site. After asking me to send them a copy of my invoice for purchasing Navigator 7 they said there was a software update ttn7.zip which I could download from the web site. The support response was very prompt – less than half an hour – but their installation instructions were poor and it took several rounds of questioning to figure out what actually had to be done.
I had copied the contents of the Tomtom memory card on to my own card. The correct instructions for the update are as follows:
- with ttn7.zip downloaded from Tomtom and on the PC, click on it in Windows Explorer to display the contents.
- This is a folder called ttn7. Click on it again in Windows Explorer to display the contents.
- You will see two items – start.exe and a folder called “2577”
- Delete the existing folder “2577” on the memory card (which had been copied from the Tomtom memory card earlier
- copy the new “2577” folder from the Tomtom download on to the memory card so it takes the place of the old “2577”
- there is no need to copy start,exe as a version with the same date is on the memory card
- With the Touch 2 off, load the memory card
- Power the Touch 2 on.
- During the power up process the Tomtom software will auto-install
- Worryingly my Touch 2 gave the same old warning message that the device is incompatible with the version of the Navigator but the installation process ignored this and carried on.
- Tomtom will prompt for the usual installation questions including the activation code that came on a sheet of paper with the memory card
- From now on it’s a case of answering the questions and configuring the various options to taste. Navigator 7 seems to work fine although I haven’t taken it out in the car yet.