Hey there guys. Just wanted to share my experience with using wave secure on the desire.
After a friend was mugged and had his desire stolen from him it got me onto thinking about protection from having someone use my phone and loosing my photos etc and also trying to recover the stolen handset.
My search lead me to wave secure. A multi platform protection software.
It consists of two apps on the phone (the main app and then an app to prevent un-installing the main app).
It allows locking down the phone if a different sim is used in the handset and online tracking of the phone even with a different sim card inserted.
You can also issue commands to remotely wipe the device.
It so far seems pretty good and has caused no slow down of the handset as it does very little in the background.
There is a 7 day trial and then if you want to sign up input "goal" as a code to recieve a discount which works out at £10 a year ($14.99) which I think is pretty cheap!
Search in the market for it and give it a go!
Phil
the only issue i could see with this is the international text rates. Your phone under certain situations will text the server which is currently not based in europe. Apparantly there are plans to add a server in the UK at some point.
Also, if the phone locks, and the thief knows something about the phone, a hardreset will remove the protection. The only way around this is to root the phone and install as a system application.
ardsar said:
the only issue i could see with this is the international text rates. Your phone under certain situations will text the server which is currently not based in europe. Apparantly there are plans to add a server in the UK at some point.
Also, if the phone locks, and the thief knows something about the phone, a hardreset will remove the protection. The only way around this is to root the phone and install as a system application.
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But that again after a hardreset your data will be wiped and that way it will be more secure then not having the program
I use it for the data wipe function , it boring to lose your phone. But its even worse to have them looking at your Privat mail / work mail / phone numbers and so on.
And if they do a data wipe then its good enough for me
Giland said:
But that again after a hardreset your data will be wiped and that way it will be more secure then not having the program
I use it for the data wipe function , it boring to lose your phone. But its even worse to have them looking at your Privat mail / work mail / phone numbers and so on.
And if they do a data wipe then its good enough for me
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fair comment.
you don't get charged for international texts. I have had no such charges on my account so it must use a uk based server of some kind.
And I know that a hard reset will wipe it but as you so then so be it but in the event that someone finds it i know I can text my number first and request the program to locate the phone for me or lock it/wipe it etc. And even if they take the sim out and put their own in i can do the same so have a greater chance of either catching the theiving scum or getting it back etc.
Phil
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My wife and I are going to Europe for a month this summer and we would like to bring our phones to use as portable wifi devices. What is the best way to guarantee that we get no data/text messaging/phone charges?
Ideally we could just remove the sim card but I heard you can't use the device when you do this (even for wifi). Is this true even if we have sim unlocked the device? Do we have to install ADP1 for this trip to do this?
I also read that we could change the APN to something invalid and that would prevent data charges but what if someone text messages us?
Thanks
As long as your device is activated, as in you are not prompted to sign into your Google account when you turn on the phone, you will be fine. Just take the SIM out of the phone when you arrive.
you could always disable the radios. There are ways to turn off cell radios and leave wifi or even turn of data all together but leave the cell radio on.
Rekna said:
My wife and I are going to Europe for a month this summer and we would like to bring our phones to use as portable wifi devices. What is the best way to guarantee that we get no data/text messaging/phone charges?
Ideally we could just remove the sim card but I heard you can't use the device when you do this (even for wifi). Is this true even if we have sim unlocked the device? Do we have to install ADP1 for this trip to do this?
I also read that we could change the APN to something invalid and that would prevent data charges but what if someone text messages us?
Thanks
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There's an app on the market that lets you disable/enable your APN settings with a simple tap or two. Search for APN.
it is called APNDroid, its brilliant! Really easy to use. One click to disable APN's, click again to re-enable them!
I'm on prepaid right now so I'm trying to not use data at all. However, even with apndroid and turning off all 3g/data, I was still losing money in my prepaid account. The only thing that I could do to stop the random charges is to uninstall any apps that require internet access (last.fm, skype, etc).
Just a warning for anyone travelling - it looks like 3rd party apps can access data even if you disable it on the g1. You can google reports of people getting charged crazy amounts of roaming data charges even after turning off their data.
I had problem last month where i unlocked my g1 to use with the 3 network, worked great and i was very happy. I did not realise however that the g1 was for whatever reason using the 3g internet rather than my wifi, for some reason or another it continuously was charging me for data i thought i was getting form my wifi! over £100 the g1 cost me in that little incident.
My advice to you is either take out your sim or use the apn blocker. I would not even put your sim in when in another country!
Does anyone see any fault in this plan of mine to avoid data charges after buying the phone (I'm going to get it today or tomorrow).
The phone is already unlocked.
1) Borrow my friend's sim with a data plan. and register phone
2) Do not fill in correct APN info upon setup (so I can't be charged data)
3) Put in my sim
4) Spend 10 hours reading these forums and trying to install custom firmware/tinkering with the phone etc.
5) Download APNdroid, run it 24/7, then enjoy my dataless phone while I browse wifi all night downloading cool apps and tweaking my phone.
Sorry this is a bit later but for anyone who is looking for an asnwere to this i found one -
Here is how you turn off data service on your G1:
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1. Use Anycut to create a shortcut to "Testing"
2. Click on Testing.
3. Click on Phone Information
4. Hit Menu button
5. Click on More
6. Click on Disable data connection
This turns off all data access. Note that GPRS service switches to "disconnected".
Now you should have a phone that does voice calls, but no data access.
Wi-fi still works which is great.
try txtFeeder.com to avoid data charges
I am not sure what your planning doing with your phone, but you should try txtFeeder.com - a free mobile feed aggregator to avoid data charges. It'll let you keep up with news, weather, or whatever site you normally read, on your mobile, without paying data charges. it works really well.
try txtFeeder.com to avoid data charges
I am not sure what your planning doing with your phone, but you should try txtFeeder.com - a free mobile feed aggregator to avoid data charges. It'll let you keep up with news, weather, or whatever site you normally read, on your mobile, without paying data charges. it works really well.
quotes from http://www.popularmechanics.com/tec...-your-phone-during-a-traffic-stop-5587825?rss
"According to an American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) letter to the director of the Michigan State Police on April 13, that department has several forensic cellphone analyzers deployed in the field. Forensic analyzers are routinely used in police investigations to recover data from computers and other digital devices."
"According to Cellebrite's product description, the UFED can grab email, Web bookmarks, Web history, SIM data, cookies, notes, MMS, instant messages, Bluetooth devices, locations, journeys, GPS fixes, call logs, text messages, contacts and more. '
You can call me paranoid but if this gets to be a major issue, is there a way to protect our information on our phones?
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After some searching here are a few other threads with concerns about the UFED: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043865
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045464
Came across this little bit of info and it might help stop the UFED. Its a review but it states which type of phones are not compatible with the UFED.....gotta make our phones software more similar to the Chinese software they use for their mobile devices???? And locked SIM cards must be unlocked also prior to extracting.
http://www.forensickb.com/2010/03/how-do-you-extract-information-from-45.html
I might be WAY OFF so somebody correct me. But doesn't the RAM hold everything like encryption keys or passwords if the phone is off or locked or something? So it doesnt matter if u get rid of your SD card or SIM card.......
Read this Devs it might help with prevention:
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...V-ax7z&sig=AHIEtbRi6bj5_cppZB_bnS2qEERS5v5DDg
http://computer-forensics.sans.org/...ite-ufed-extract-phone-data-file-system-dump/
throw them away. put your tinfoil hat on, and dig a deep hole. if you circumvent it, and the police want / need to read it - which they probably never will - but if they can't, they're only going to get the rubber gloves out and throw you in guantamo prison.
HD2, Android on SD, get pulled over, eat the SD card!
It's the only way
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HD2, Android on SD, get pulled over, eat the SD card!
It's the only way
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You can pick up a fuze or tilt2 pretty cheap nowadays and do the same.
Sent from a super smooth captivate running andromeda
I wonder if having custom roms would interfere with this?
My friend lost his HTC-Wildfire ( India, Bangalore).
There was no tracker enabled, is it possible to request HTC to block the device based on IMEI number? I read somewhere, it is not yet possible in India ( the blog-post was about a year old).
Any other suggestions?
HTC will not do it. Your mobile operator will do it, but, it needs a FIR from your local police station, and, as expected, it is a process full of hassle, unless you have 'contacts'.
And I heard, mobile operator keep asking to go back to device manufacturer. ( we work at SIM level, and not device, unless it is locked).
Then perhaps I should let the 'finder' enjoy his luck for now.
As I said, its a hassle filled process. From what I read and heard, it is the mobile operator who should do it, because, all of them have access to a global database of stolen phones. All they need to do is simply add your IMEI to this global list, and it is locked for use with any sim - any network. Obviously, its a process filled with legal red tape, which is why they are uncooperative.
I think when we are using android market, Google will be having our imei/serial number. Don't know if that helps to track the phone ( maybe not ). But I think everyone with android phone must be using market.
And if the person who got the phone wants to use wildfire without a sim or any other internet networks, then u can do really really nothing. All we should do is to protect our phone from being lost.
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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That was the first thing I did, but I think I was late by hours. By that time the device was offline.
ALso, there was a 'pattern' based unlock password. So, if the person goes about reflashing the ROM (himself, or whoever he sells to).. then that wont work.
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You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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It's already lost unfortunately.
Besides, atleast as far as I know, mobile thieves are today much more intelligent. They will first flash and format your phone before even attempting to use it (They switch off your phone immediately after picking it - happened to me once). Also, another aspect is that it is hardly ever the thief who will use it. He will sell it at first opportunity.
^@3xeno
Exactly.
I had no hope from planB, but I still did it - just in case.
Even if it works, the accuracy of location would be very important.
I can be evil and go all-out to get IMEI blocked. But just thinking whether its worth the hassle ( its more of a revenge), as they say, it wont help to get the device back.
Or should I let the 'receiver' enjoy his luck.
As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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shiranmotha said:
As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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Of course he can install "Plan B" remotely in his device from PC android market without any confirmational messages (but provided only if his gmail account is still associated with his phone. This happens only if his sim card was unchanged and i dont think that is the case).
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.
bharatgaddameedi said:
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.
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I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )
ErwinP said:
I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )
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A typical thief wont be able to get past 'pattern-unlock'. However, in hands of a hacker, with adb - everything is possible with sufficient time and motivation.
Typical thief would either sell it, or try to use it using different sim ( your best hope for any post-theft-tracking possibility).
Irony is that, pattern lock saves you from un-educated 'thief' misusing your data. But, on the other hand it motivates them to reflash the ROM, thus eliminating any chance of u tracking it.
In hands of even bigger experts, even IMEI-lock wont stay for long. I am sure there are people who know how to spoof IMEI. But I would imagine that is very small community.
Yes it all depends on the person that finds/steals the phone but better to try and fail than not try at all.And yes the Plan B requirement is that the person that has your phone uses your gmail account login on the market.With pattern lock the one that finds it would have to flash it as akshayxyz said so it all depends on the settings/luck or whatever ,but still there is no harm in trying.
After all what are the chances that someone with knowledge about these things finds your lost phone,and if that was the case then your friend has really bad luck.
I lost my phone and i used it just in case,I even kept the same password in the hope that one would log in with it.It didn`t help me since as i found out later my lcd cracked when it fell out of my pocket ,but after i got it back(the person that found it came into the store i work at and asked how much would the replacement cost) and loged in the market the app installed itself,so try it.
No harm done and its just a few clicks on the net^^.
does anyone know how this feature works, can be found in the settings under Location and Security. Called 'Find My Mobile'
Particularly insterested in how 'Remote Functions' works as it allows the phone to be locked, tracked and data to be wiped remotely.
www.samsungdive.com
I'm in the US.. I tried it, and but after 30 minutes of attempting to find my phone, and I canceled and gave up.
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I'm in the US.. I tried it, and but after 30 minutes of attempting to find my phone, and I canceled and gave up.
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I had similar experience here in Canada. Has anyone actually got this to work?
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I had similar experience here in Canada. Has anyone actually got this to work?
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I have tried it and it worked nice for me...I kept my Net connection on (background Data on too in Accounts and Sync) ..it won't work if your net is off on mobile
I'm in the U.S. and it works fine. I actually used "ring my phone" yesterday because I lost it in the house. I think I registered here first...
http://www.samsungapps.com/mobile/main.as?LANG_CODE=ENG&COUNTRY_CODE=GBR
Once you've registered, your user ID is good across all the different Samsung feature sites. Except for Social Hub which doesn't recognize the IMEI of the phone.
np231 said:
I had similar experience here in Canada. Has anyone actually got this to work?
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Works great here, takes around 15-20 seconds to get a location and a little less to lock/ring phone.
np231 said:
I had similar experience here in Canada. Has anyone actually got this to work?
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Certainly you'll need to have GPS signal where you are (in your room, office, etc.) or at least allow it use wireless networks to determine its position.
If even doing this you can't find it, then it definitely doesn't work...
np231 said:
I had similar experience here in Canada. Has anyone actually got this to work?
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I tried it here in Denmark. Worked flawlessly. Found my phone almost immediately.
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Works for me in Canada, using KG3, and a different SIM card than the one I was using when I setup my Samsung account. Even told me the SIM had changed.
I've got it to work also. Could have been an error with the firmware I was using before...I can't remember which version it was. I'm on KG3 now though
Works good here in the USA for me too. Had to login directly into Samsung DIVE though. Was able to lock my phone and make it ring. Very cool.
Actually, as i see it this app is just for fun. If your phone is stolen, it's unlikely you can do anything in SamsungDive, since it requires an active data connection and even so, it doesn't seem to work if you don't accept google to collect data when prompted. What person would accept that when having a stolen phone ? Btw, does your SamsungDive account show your number ? Mine doesn't, but all features can be used.
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Actually, as i see it this app is just for fun. If your phone is stolen, it's unlikely you can do anything in SamsungDive, since it requires an active data connection and even so, it doesn't seem to work if you don't accept google to collect data when prompted. What person would accept that when having a stolen phone ? Btw, does your SamsungDive account show your number ? Mine doesn't, but all features can be used.
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I agree with that. Samsungdive is pretty limited. You're better off with an app that uses sms messages to the phone to lock, locate, wipe, etc. At least it's more likely that a stolen phone will be on and connected to a cell network than have data on.
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I agree with that. Samsungdive is pretty limited. You're better off with an app that uses sms messages to the phone to lock, locate, wipe, etc. At least it's more likely that a stolen phone will be on and connected to a cell network than have data on.
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its working as described in the UK.
even what u say is not enough, because in both instances ur relying on the SIM card and/or ur login details, which i expect to change immediately by a phone thieve
however the best tracking service would be by tracking the hardware ID or IMEI of the device, but unfortunately this is restricted to network providers only
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Actually, as i see it this app is just for fun. If your phone is stolen, it's unlikely you can do anything in SamsungDive, since it requires an active data connection and even so, it doesn't seem to work if you don't accept google to collect data when prompted. What person would accept that when having a stolen phone ? Btw, does your SamsungDive account show your number ? Mine doesn't, but all features can be used.
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Yes it shows my number but not in the spot I was expecting it. It was near the bottom of the page. I had to click on it to get any of the functions.
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its working as described in the UK.
even what u say is not enough, because in both instances ur relying on the SIM card and/or ur login details, which i expect to change immediately by a phone thieve
however the best tracking service would be by tracking the hardware ID or IMEI of the device, but unfortunately this is restricted to network providers only
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Ultimately no system is 100%. I just think the system that uses sms is more reliable, even if the sim card is changed it will send the number of the new sim card to a mobile number you have configured in the app so you can still send commands (turn on background gps tracking and data , remote lock, remote wipe, etc) to the new number. No radio data or sync services are required to be on initially.
All this assumes of course that the thief hasn't found the app and tried to un-install it (although it shouldn't allow un-installing without a password) or just factory reset the phone.
Best thing is not to loose your phone
iam here in austria.
on the first day, where i get my sgs2, i tried samsungdive. it doesnt worked.
but on the next day i tried again, and it worked perfectly.
tracking, writing message, call protocol and ringing worked finde. the last one (erase data) i dont tried out
cheers
It started when some scumbag stole my bag which contained my old phone (s5) and wallet etc
My phone had a dodgy battery, smashed screen and inactive sim.
I only had it with me as it still connected to wifi so was a back up if I needed internet.
I'm particularly worried that I had screenshot of bank statements and various other sensitive documents as well as passwords for email etc stored in my notes.
I had a fingerprint lock screen set up as well as a password on private mode (I'm pretty sure I stored some passwords etc in private but not all)
As soon as i realised I called my network and had it blacklisted I then tried to do a remote wipe via device manager but although it showed the handset on the account there wasn't a remote wipe function.
I then changed my passwords for everything I remember having including my Google device manager account.
Unfortunately there was videos/photos of my kids that weren't back up which breaks my heart:crying:
So my main questions are.......
What is the most likely thing a criminal would do with the phone?
Factory reset then sell abroad? Change imei number?
How difficult would it be to hack into the phone to get my data?
Would all of that be too much effort considering the value of the model?
Finally is there any way samsung can wipe the phone for me?
Thanks so much for any help
much love