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I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks
Non-existent, if you have the 1.6.1 ROM
No problems at all even on 1.43 ROM
Never had any problem with sms.
After flashing 1.61 no more SMS issue (as well as no other bugs so far, still testing...)
t-mobile
ROM 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE - Set up the phone, sent text with RSVP and got one back seconds later.
Same with email.
geekyhawkes said:
I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks
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There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.
never had a problem with SMS. ROM 1.48
Where can you find the 1.61 ROM?
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?
thijazi said:
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?
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It's a leaked rom so you might want to check out the leo rom sub forum.
I am not having any issues with SMS getting stuck in the out box.
I am however getting the slow down when loading SMS threads. With about 30 messages its getting slow. Not terrible but compared to instant when i started it seems horrible.
Never had any problems with SMS, with 1.43 or 1.48.
I have no idea, what is sms problem this phone work awsome out of the box.
You wanna see fu*ked up phone try lg viewty or other lg crap...
I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?
Toss3 said:
There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.
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In regards to sms bug 1: I'm running 1.61 rom and the messages I sent today I've still not received any delivery reports for.
no1 had this problem??
receive are all 2-3 minutes too early (time is not match with own mobile time clock) as it basic on sender time and so put the text conversation out of sync.
wiltonson said:
I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?
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It most certainly does. I'm with O2 and have this problem, also the occasional text going to a different (and non-requested) recipient!
HTC have provided a hotfix today for SMS issues. I havent experienced the problem myself so am interested to see if the problem is resolved.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407
Nope that hotfix didnt fix anything. I still have messages sitting in outbox for hours now..
humbug
(ps, using the ROM 1.48)
i still had time stamp error
I very, very sad....
I can't view list of SMS
I can't answer to SMS without 5-10sec timeout
I can't use default interface for SMS
Its terrible.
If you ready to answer me about this with thread when swith to default mode, you must to know that I've tried this and I lost MMS.
I can't use only SMS without MMS.....
Plz, help. Who sovle this problem, help.....
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+1 it's to sad. I've had the phone for 3 weeks now, and i'm waiting on HTC to fix this terrible issue (this and the alarm issue..)
i still have to use Nokia N86 as my primary phone, because like you, i want both MMS and SMS. HTC please??
Guys,
If this issue is really of concern to you do the following:
- write to HTC so they know that there is still a problem out there for some users.
- implement this fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584696 (see the last post f you want to solve the MMS issue).
WB
Same here!!
What I am doing now as a workaround is using PowerSMS (http://download.cnet.com/PowerSMS/3000-10440_4-10920088.html).
It allows you to make a full backup (among others) of your SMS (inbox and sent items) and restore them anytime with the option to delete them after backing up.
Regarding the amount of use you can backup SMS you don't need anymore. It's really quick.
I'm doing this once/twice in a week and the sms app is responding. According to the amount of sms you send/receive you can screw it up and down;-)
I receive round about 10 sms each day and send ~10 sms pro day.
But as I said. It's not really a solution but a little apsirin for my headache!
Cheers,
LEE
P.S. beside all these, this powerSMS is a really nice app (e.g schedule SMS ) .
Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.
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Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.
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I use MyPhone on a daily basis (it automatically backs up everything except my storage card at 4am). It also allows you to archive text messages online, and you can then delete them from your online store and it automatically deletes them from your phone during the next sync. Doing this, I never have problems with my SMS or MMS, as I keep the number of messages down. I've got over 2000 messages archived on MyPhone (accessible via the web interface), and about 100 on my phone at the moment. Once there's a 100% fix in place, I can restore the archive and they will get put back on my phone automatically.
If any of you are having problems, have you done what wacky.banana suggested? That thread seems to have resolved the issue for the majority of people. Okay it's not ideal, but until HTC fix this then we have to make do with what we have.
I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.
Henry_Lee said:
I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.
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Henry_Lee,
What JohnCMolyneaux is trying to tell you is that your problem is probably being caused by the HTC SMS application not being able to cope with too many texts on your phone. Its a well known problem and produces the symptoms you have (search for SMS problem on XDA and you will find lots of threads on this).
What he was trying to say was that if you backup your texts online then delete all of them off the phone but the bare essentials then you stand a better chance of getting the HTC SMS app to work.
An even better solution is the one I set out above.
There's no more on offer here I'm afraid. It's either one of the 2 solutions above or you live with it.
WB
I have only 10-20 SMS on my phone and get problem even with 1-5 SMS.
I already wrote to HTC support service but I think someone solve problem....
I never had any problem .. I know it's not being helpful, but just so you know.
now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S
I have two major issues with this phone, 1. some sms messages doesen't get sent, they're stuck in the outbox. 2. the alarm clock isn't reliable at all.
Sendt an e-mail to HTC and got this answer: (i did include in the e-mail the fact that i have installed the hotfix)
Dear HTC Customer
HTC is aware of this now, and working on a solution. Thank you for your patience
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now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S
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Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.
Henry_Lee said:
But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
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Never heard of Miri then?
Henry_Lee said:
Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.
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Well, this will not easily be solved by a simple rom fix.... It's a fundamental error in the sense 2.5 msging. The alternatives aren't perfect either (there is a sense 2.1 workaround which has some bugs as well as the 'disable sense' option which isn't all that for some).
Afaik custom roms usually are stripped, updated, modified and tweaked and no core fixes which are the resposibility of HTC.
Henry_Lee,
I found a solution for my SMS problem, which was quite similar to yours I think:
- not able to send (new) or answer messages
- not able to see message history
- not able to go to 'more' for more options
First of all I wrote an email to HTC as well, but they didn't seem to understand my problem or care about it. They answered a hotfix
would be available soon, but that was a hotfix to solve the other SMS problem where messages didn't get sent immediately etc..
However, once this was released I downloaded it and installed it onto my HD2, result: wasted my time (as I expected really...).
Because HTC didn't respond to my next messages anymore (therefore I assume they don't really care) I started to try a couple of things
myself:
1. Made a backup using SBP Backup software excluding a backup of the registry in System Data
2. Performed a hard reset
3. Installed ROM upgrade (in my case it was Netherlands 1.48.404.2)
4. Installed SMS Function Update
5. Re-installed most of the files in the backup in ROM Upgrade Mode, apart from System Data (use Customize Restore)
Result: problem(s) solved!
SMS works like a charm again, as it did when I just bought the phone.
Just disappointed in the way the HTC customer service desk works (or doesn't work...). Still, it's not just HTC's CS, Nokia excels in their
stupidity, one of the reasons I got a HTC phone this time. Let's hope I won't have to contact any of them again soon...
Hope this helps!
Brgds,
Paul
Polvito said:
Result: problem(s) solved!
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How long has the problem been solved? I found this problem after 3 weeks with my device. A hard reset (or equally a ROM flash) would surely cause the equivalent. You may see the problem reappear, as I did after a week, after the 1.48 "upgrade".
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How long has the problem been solved?
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The SMS function has been up and running for about 3 weeks now. And like I mentioned earlier I have also upgraded the ROM version, no problems since.
Many messages have been sent and received meanwhile so at the moment I'm confident the problem has been solved properly. If not I will let y'all know!
Brgds,
Paul
I do sympathize with those having SMS issues. Have you all consider possibility is hardware issue as you also notice there are guys in the forum saying they do not have such issues. I am one of them. I have been using the HD2 for 38 days already. On day one I restore about 800 sms into my phone. There was NO lag and the SMS were all displayed within 10+ secs ( one time lag to display ). Subsequent no more such lag as was instant display when I access it
SMS stuck in outbox only one time ( few minutes ) - I discounted it off, as I just reach another country
daily I send/recieve about 20-30 SMS : till today I NEVER encountered SMS stuck in outbox. SMS was also immediately displayed in PEOPLE tab ( found many users complain very slow to load ). I only face this issue few days ago on the cooked rom based on Leo 2.0 build 28*** ; I change back to rom based on build 2188## - no more such issue
Till today I NEVER even bother to install the SMS hotfix - see no need of it
johncmolyneux said:
Never heard of Miri then?
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Heard, but I will wait normal SPL and Bepe.
When I had HTC Cruise I tried many ROMs and Miri's too, but only Bepe to cook ROM like my taste.
Looks like HSPL is ready. isnt?
Hi All,
I changed my SIM card yesterday (replacement) and since then can't sent SMS messages?
I have tried to find info. on this with no luck! Any ideas
i'm with Vodafone
Thanks
N
im also using ROM Version 1.66.405.2
What is the problem? Does it show any error?
Have you checked if the SMS center number? (I think you can find how to do that in the manual or by contacting Vodafone).
SMS problem
I have this problem also.
I think it's a bug in the software of HTC-sense ( not WM ), while, when I send a free sms (only one's a day) from the Vodafone-button in the Start-menu, this works well.
I have all the update's done from the HTC-site, also all the Rom's I've tried from this site.
Should say HTC is coming with the solution, but this it's pending much to long!
HTC take your responsibility!!!!!!!!!!
Solved - SMS stucked in outbox and have not been sent
noodles3 said:
Hi All,
I changed my SIM card yesterday (replacement) and since then can't sent SMS messages?
I have tried to find info. on this with no luck! Any ideas
i'm with Vodafone
Thanks
N
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I had same problem as each SMS I tried to send was found stucked in the outbox file and never been sent out.
That was solved be replacing the SIM card, with a brand new one i got.
The former Sim card worked perfect with my old device - but not with the new HD2.
Try to use another new Sim card to find out if that is the same case.
Wish u good luck.
hi there i had this problem with the sms and now i'm all good.
i have the 1.48 rom inst. and i have found on the htc europe site an update for sms. i' ve instaled it and after 1 month of testing it i have no problems with my sms not sending or stocked in the outbox like before. i'm also on vodafone
hi,
I recently encountered a problem with receiving text messages on my HTC Magic (32A)...
I am able to receive calls, send messages, but I don't receive any.
My mobile operator works fine, there are no delays...
Any possible solution?
thanks
ive read that some people have had luck fixing this problem by deleting all sms threads out of your messaging program.. apparently if you have heaps of sms (1000+) you can run out of room to store new sms...
also you can try installing a 3rd party app like handcent and see if that helps..
also a factory reset couldnt hurt as well if the problem persists (im assuming your running stock rom)
Hi All
I wonder does anyone noticed that when reading sms on my legend. I could not see the latest sms on top. if you have more than 100 sms from one contact you have to scroll down in order to see the newest sms. Any solution for that issue. Please Help me!!
Everyone who updated the phone software recently is having this issue, very annoying...
I switched to handcent messaging... it is a very decent alternative and it shows the last message on top.
Extremely annoying.
I also installed handcent but when ı read the sms the notification remains on the bar.
realized that problem after reading this thread. the problem exist with the default SMS application.. I recently changed to Handcent and it isn't affected by that.. plus Handcent is pretty nice and all
@lifeis, have you disabled the notification option for your default SMS application? you have to do that to let Handcent "take over" the default one
I switched to Chomp. Waiting for 2.2 ........
edit: reply from HTC Taiwan
"With regards to your enquiry, the message sorting order is default by google phones. However, we will forward your request to Google and HTC."
SMS Threads
Anyone else having issues with the SMS threads? Me, and other people around the web have threads that now load from the oldest message (ie from the top) so i now have to scroll all the way down to see any new messages! I called HTC who said software devs are aware of the problem but haven't started working on it yet!! He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend!
everybody is having the same problems regarding the sms bug. try sending an email to htc to voice out your concern and hopefully they can do something asap or we might just get used to it.
He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend! [/QUOTE]
Oh dear lol
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
josh_james15 said:
Anyone else having issues with the SMS threads? Me, and other people around the web have threads that now load from the oldest message (ie from the top) so i now have to scroll all the way down to see any new messages! I called HTC who said software devs are aware of the problem but haven't started working on it yet!! He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend!
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I got this reply from HTC Taiwan:
"The official upgrade for Android 2.2 is not confirmed yet. Desire will release the upgrade earlier than Legend. As Europe already releases the 2.2 upgrade, Taiwan is expecting for its own release soon. However, the exact date for Legend is still not set."
I don't have this problem
It's weird because I'm not having this issue.
Software version: 2.05.405.2
It's a vodafone debranded phone, in spanish
VF eforum thread, anyone with a VF branded phone with the fault please report back to VF in the thread below. They don't see to understand its a fault and still just collecting feedback so LET THEM KNOW !
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/69991-htc-legend-2051611-software-update/page__st__40?
SMS-Threaded-Issue Suggestions
I really like the look of the native SMS app that comes with the phone. However, it misplaces the threaded sms.
HTC support is as sh!tty as it is. I sent them bunch emails, their final answer is "sending in the phone for repair".
Anyways, around April - May 2010, I tried Handcent & ChompSMS. I chose Handcent. The app was good & all, then the updates, then now lots of force-closes. So I switched back to the native app & learned to live with it.
The problem of the native app is that it SLOWS tremendously, especially if you have so many conversations with so many people.
My final solution is the purchase of the Desire (giving the missy my Legend).
With the Desire's Eclair 2.1-update1, the native SMS app STILL suffers from the same problem of the Legend. However, the lag is zero. INSTANTANEOUSLY.. I was VERY CONTENT.
My Desire is recently updated to Froyo 2.2 & it fixes the threaded sms misplace. So, I'm EXTREMELY content now.
So, my recommendation is:
1. Try to live with the native app & wait for Froyo 2.2
2. Try Handcent & ChompSMS & pick your preference.
3. Get the Desire & you'll be as happy as a kid in the candy store.
That's the answer that I got from HTC:
Thank you for contacting us, We apologize for the delay in answering your email, Kindly be informed that currently there is no way to change the sorting of your messages. There may be 3rd party applications that can solve your problem, and you can try searching the market for applications that match your needs. Please note that we are currently analyzing this issue and will determine if this will be addressed in a possible future update. As for the Froyo upgrade, we expect to release updates for several of our 2010 models including Legend and Wildfire during Q3.