Found this baby in DeFrost 0.9 base rom.
Can move about 80% of apps to sd
Think its installable to any rom.
Not taking the credit, just passing around the joy.
Enjoy
So I understand, all it does is set the install location for you... nothing special, just saves you typing the pm setInstallLocation command!
Has anyone had any success with this? After configuring this to install to external memory and then installing google earth roughly the same amount of space is used on internal memory as compared to if it was installed fully in internal memory.
I realise some data will always be installed into internal memory but should it be close to 100% of the application size?
I've found the same issue with ScummVM too..
make sure that google earth did in fact get installed to sd-card. go under settings > Applications > Manager Applications > and the SD-Card tab and see if Google Earth is there. if its not, find it in the installed application tab and 'Move to SD Card'.
I've noticed that sometimes the app is still installed on the internal memory and needs to be moved to SD-card manually.
Does this only work if you are rooted? I tried it on my Desire and it didn't do anything? Stock 2.2, no root
Look here for not rooted devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379
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Look here for not rooted devices
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Cheers. I actually got to this thread from a post in that thread but it didn't state you needed root for this to work.
I will do the other way but it is fiddly as I don't want it to install all apps to SD so if this worked it would be easier to change the setting.
Ah well
I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
Super thx !!
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
Aqrab said:
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
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No. FroYo a2sd only. This was for when we didn't have old a2sd on our FroYo roms, no point with an ext.
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thegrantonstarcause said:
I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
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Usually 25mb or something like that, w/ FroYo a2sd it was 16mb.
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This installed succesfully to Froyo Huawei Ideos u8150 (Also known as a T-mobile Comet)
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sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...
This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA
1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.
I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?
Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.
I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted
igniztion said:
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks
vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.
fletcharama said:
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.
Hi guys, i found an app in the Amarket called Move2SD Enabler! This app change the root of the app and u can move it on sd, even if the app is installed in the phone memory! I'm italian so the app is in italian and i dunno if the app is multilanguage! so i post a guide how to do!
search and download the app!when u open it u have to choose external to move all app on sd! then u choose apply and give the root permissions and then u go to settings and manage apps and move downloaded app on sd.. nad save a lot of internal memory... bye guys! hope this helps u!
Hello !!
Maybe this is not good post for reply to this , but i was thinking about apps running from sdcard , remember, nand is internal memory, so if you put apps on sdcard (external) you should be less better life battery than apps running from Nand, this will access more times to the sdcard and it will remember you time of non-nand roms ...
You decide ! ...i have an usage of sdcard for Photos , videos , downloads, etc etc... maybe i tell true...you should test it ...you will see better battery life i think....
jphilouxx said:
Hello !!
Maybe this is not good post for reply to this , but i was thinking about apps running from sdcard , remember, nand is internal memory, so if you put apps on sdcard (external) you should be less better life battery than apps running from Nand, this will access more times to the sdcard and it will remember you time of non-nand roms ...
You decide ! ...i have an usage of sdcard for Photos , videos , downloads, etc etc... maybe i tell true...you should test it ...you will see better battery life i think....
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JPhilouxx, for European users, the big concern about NAND is the low internal storage of the phone after installing the NAND BUILD. Sometimes the free memory at the start- without adding any app, just the NAND BUILD as is- is just 180 MB. Taking into account that some apps can not run from SD, like Google Maps, Opera, ADOBE FLASH.... we have serious problem just to use main apps. Always the message of low internal memory appears everytime you are updating google mail or google maps. Even some apps can not just move to SD completely, so we are waiting for any fix to this low internal memory. I have seen that some developers have started to split the IMG into SD although main system is loaded from internal memory.
In the meantime, some apps like our italian colleague is talking about can be a little help.
BR
This is what I recommend.
Root your HD2 Android phone by donwloading z4root.apk.
http://tinyurl.com/32yarv5
Apply and restart phone.
Download and install ModInstallLocation.
http://tinyurl.com/3a2flgc
In Superuser app, allow ModInstallLocation app.
Restart phone.
In ModInstallLocation app choose location 2 (SD Card) and save
Maybe restart can't remember.
From now on any app you download will AUTOMATICALLY be installed on SD card. Also you can move your existing apps from Phone to SD in the Application settings.
BRILLIANT STUFF!
tboy2000 said:
This is what I recommend.
Root your HD2 Android phone by donwloading z4root.apk.
http://tinyurl.com/32yarv5
Apply and restart phone.
Download and install ModInstallLocation.
http://tinyurl.com/3a2flgc
In Superuser app, allow ModInstallLocation app.
Restart phone.
In ModInstallLocation app choose location 2 (SD Card) and save
Maybe restart can't remember.
From now on any app you download will AUTOMATICALLY be installed on SD card. Also you can move your existing apps from Phone to SD in the Application settings.
BRILLIANT STUFF!
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Thank you very much for your tips. Thinking to avoid Titanium Back Up for the moment, as not all app are restored to SD, so it will be better going one by one.
Rocheau said:
JPhilouxx, for European users, the big concern about NAND is the low internal storage of the phone after installing the NAND BUILD. Sometimes the free memory at the start- without adding any app, just the NAND BUILD as is- is just 180 MB. Taking into account that some apps can not run from SD, like Google Maps, Opera, ADOBE FLASH.... we have serious problem just to use main apps. Always the message of low internal memory appears everytime you are updating google mail or google maps. Even some apps can not just move to SD completely, so we are waiting for any fix to this low internal memory. I have seen that some developers have started to split the IMG into SD although main system is loaded from internal memory.
In the meantime, some apps like our italian colleague is talking about can be a little help.
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Thank's for this answer , for me i've installed all my apps , i think more 60 apps with low and good sizes as games etc... it run fine and very smooth with cpu clocked to 806mhz, i have tweaked rom via Cyanogenmod in the performance menu and i have a really big difference on speed, when i click on my tasker for end apps i have +300mo free on ram, but really thinking about desire hd roms , i've tested each one and i have this message memory alert with 20apps or 30, depends on size.. my choice is CyanoGenMod Rom's because no really need to install this "Apps2sd" and my battery know it!! i have 25mo free internal memory on my Hd2 with all my apps installed ..soo what else ?! i don't need )
My 8gb sd card have a much free space for all others things ..
sorry if i don't really understand all you message but i see what you want to say!
Thank you Mr Rocheau
But really this will be nice if it's splitted to sd because many desire hd roms will be not very "usable(???)" with low memory , so i prefer return to non nand desire hd builds on sdcard like before ..this will be the same i think for battery life ..maybe not ..all advices are welcome !!! ))
Maybe you should go 'hybrid' and place applications that you use a lot on your internal memory. And apps that you don't use a lot (like games and navigation software for example) on your SD card. This way you will only use extra power when you use these apps.
For the moment I'm waiting on a clean android NAND build. Sense takes up a lot of NAND space..
yes this is true ,before i've installed senses roms , desire hd build, with nand tech' and exactly do the same thing what you say , this is an option , really !
Each of us should test more and more tweaks like that and we'll know how many drain on it with our batteries.. So much more times on our lovely Htc HD2 !!! we need to spend more time on it for find the best hardware configuration for an usual daily rom, i think future is with CyanoGenmod Rom's they are the best for our HD2 and stable for daily use... sorry again i'm french i don't speak english so much..thanks
tboy2000 said:
This is what I recommend.
Root your HD2 Android phone by donwloading z4root.apk.
http://tinyurl.com/32yarv5
Apply and restart phone.
Download and install ModInstallLocation.
http://tinyurl.com/3a2flgc
In Superuser app, allow ModInstallLocation app.
Restart phone.
In ModInstallLocation app choose location 2 (SD Card) and save
Maybe restart can't remember.
From now on any app you download will AUTOMATICALLY be installed on SD card. Also you can move your existing apps from Phone to SD in the Application settings.
BRILLIANT STUFF!
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thanks I m testing it with NAND HD Revolution (superlight edition); already rooted
OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!
Im using CM7 RC1 on wildfire, i have 800mb left on SD card, but now my programs cannot be moved to SD card, because it says no more storage left on SD card. And this problem is after i instaled CM7 RC1
And this is dev related..... how??
As for ur question, I have no idea.
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Just format your sd and try again?
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Maybe your partition is not big enough?
big enough. i say its 800mb free
Yes , You have 800 mb but on general partion.Check out how much space you have on ext partitions.
I check it in the easiest way without anyy software.I'm connectin WF to my TV and get in USB and there are few drivers to choose then check info about and here it is.
Or with some kind of software in PC
Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.
I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em
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Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.
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Moving to SD does not move the whole app to SD many times. Internal memory is occupied too, maybe 25 mb is too less? What's the exact error msg that its giving?
Have the same problem.
As far as i know APP2SD doesnt use the ext partition (just the Darktremor Apps2SD does) - but the APP uses the Froyo/Gingerbread buildin function and just saves some amount of the Apps to the SD card.
Somehow it worked for me if i try it a 2nd time (or after restarting the device in begin - after it worked fine for me).
But sometimes if I install apps it also tells me - not enough space - and i have 37MB internal left - even the app is just about 500kb.... - anyway it also works if i just try agains ome seconds later.
Annoying - but perhaps also works for u
Formiak said:
I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em
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Could you also tell us how 2 make bigger internal !??! If I dont want to disasemble my device and replace a chip?
As far as i know u just can get bigger internal space by moving apps or systemparts to the SD card... and thats where he has problems.
(But yes many custom roms already do it a bit: dalvik cache,.. - but u need 2 reflash another rom.... not part of this discussin atm i think)
i didnt have any problems with 2.3 nightly 49# and other nightlys or even 2.2 roms. But with new 2.3 RC1 i have these problems. so im moving to other rom
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