Nexus One sh*ts on EVO - Nexus One General

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JcLRScNUR8#t=9m00s

there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.

denimjunkie82 said:
there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.
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That reminded me of Veggie-Tales

Nice screen size....... that's all I can say though everything else is standard. My nexus on Froyo is a lot smoother and quicker than that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JcLRScNUR8#t=9m00s
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denimjunkie82 said:
there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.
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This is true.

used evo today, it was definitely laggy compared to my nexus. but the evo was solid as hell and i liked the form factor a whole lot. its almost like the perfect tablet/phone size. love the smooth slate back too.

denimjunkie82 said:
there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.
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lol agreed. lets stop the robot on robot hating and focus on the real enemy ;D

Evo was nice but compared to holding a N1 its not close. Same for the Incredible(honestly i didnt like it at all,too plasticy). Nothing has the feel in hand the nexus does from my experience. At the same time if ya handed me either phone and said "Here it yours". I d take it in a second. All three phones ive stated run nice. Would be very happy either way. But i do like my nexus above all.

this isnt the nexus ****ting on the evo..this is android 2.2 ****ting on android 2.1

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there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.
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Agree that EVO users are our brothers and sisters.
Disagree that we're fighting the fruit. We're fighting limitations.

bobdude5 said:
this isnt the nexus ****ting on the evo..this is android 2.2 ****ting on android 2.1
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+1 to this one

Both devices have their advantages and disadvantages, but infighting like this just makes us look bad. Grow up guys

I'd like to see a 2.1 Nexus vs a 2.1 EVO and then a 2.2 Nexus vs a 2.2 EVO (we will have to wait though).

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there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.
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Agreed.
The more people using Androids (and less FRUITS), the better. ANY win for Android is a win for ALL of us.
That being said, I did get a chance to check out the EVO yesterday at a Sprint store. After the short line wait (lol), I got my hands on it and compared. Here's what I found:
Pros:
Despite the size, my N1 feels heavier. What the heck? I am using a full-body skin, but it can't make THAT much of a difference.
The Evo isn't THAT much larger when one is placed over the other. In fact, it made me realize just how much bezel is at the bottom of the N1 (where the trackball is). On the Evo, that space is much reduced. There should be few problems fitting the Evo into pockets etc, as the size is not too much larger.
The screen size is definitely just amazing. Browsing webpages is much more enjoyable.
3G Speed: Loading up webpages was always faster on the Evo than my N1. I quickly downloaded Ookla Speedtest on both phones and got an average of 2000/650 on the Evo and 400/1350 on the N1 (both on 3G, don't think there's 4G here). Of course, they could have had a 3G repeater in the Sprint store. And it's funny how T-Mobile's uploads were exactly twice as high, and I got 1350 every single time. I think they're both upload-capped.
The soft buttons under the screen are much easier to hit. From the second I picked up the phone, I hit them 100% of the time without any problems. I'm not sure what the heck HTC did with the N1, and why the labels don't match the touch points.
Cons:
I can definitely tell the color difference between the two. I loaded up Engadget and looked at one of the pictures on the front page on both phones. It was night and day. The N1 was colorful and vibrant and the Evo seemed washed out. Any N1 user will instantly tell how much of a difference the AMOLED screen makes.
The N1 certainly takes the cake in terms of style. The Evo looks plain, almost ugly. The N1 feels more solid as well. But that may be due to the weight as I said previously.
Flash/FroYo. Of course, we have it, they don't. The person next to me testing the other Evo was asking the employee if it had Flash. I didn't get the chance to butt into their conversation but I was this close to showing off my N1... I know the Evo has root already, but development will always be better on the N1 since it's Google's baby.
The Evo definitely felt laggy and scrolling homescreens was not smooth. (Chalk it up to FroYo of course.)
Anyway, I don't see how that video is the N1 "****ting" on the Evo? The comparison was like 1/10th of the video, and the speed was only marginally faster.
Anyone else try out the Evo yesterday / today?
In any case, the bottom line here is that there is no competition between our phones. This is only bad for Apple, who is probably shaking in their boots

Yeah I went to the sprint store yesterday to play with it and I had my at&t nexus one in hand to compare. The build quality on my n1 definitely was better than the evo which had way too much plastic. I mean it was still okay but just a lot of plastic. Also there is something to be said with having an 800x 400 with amoled resolution as compared to just a bigger screen with the same resolution. While I could see more of the webpage when browsing on the evo the pages still looked sharper on my n1. With that beING said I would buy the evoif I was a sprint customer but seeing how long it took Sprint to go from the pre to the evo I just can't foresee them getting another flagship phone for awhile... while at&t is slowly but surely about to release a lot of new android phones from dell, HTC, and Samsung
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Didn't have the patience to watch the whole video so I fast forwarded to the end. I am amazed at how much brighter and clearer the nexus 1 screen is compared to the evo. That video would make me want to buy the N1 more.

True... Check this video out... screen comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9X60M_Knc
mrbkkt1 said:
Didn't have the patience to watch the whole video so I fast forwarded to the end. I am amazed at how much brighter and clearer the nexus 1 screen is compared to the evo. That video would make me want to buy the N1 more.
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I tested one also. Me full bars 3g, it full bars 4g and it was a tie to every web site. I get good hsdpa here in Portland though.... I prefer my n1 especially after that...

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Vote for the N1

This is a no-brainer, comparatively the Nexus One is the better phone
http://ow.ly/25lD8
I surprised the MyTouch Slide took out the Evo 4G. Not that it's that much better (speed and screen vs battery life and keyboard make it a draw for me), but that it won despite the technical specs favoring the Evo, and that usually is what carries in polls like these.
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This is a no-brainer, comparatively the Nexus One is the better phone
http://ow.ly/25lD8
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Really? The MyTouch 3g Slide vs Nexus One? Come on..
I thought the N1 was upgraded to 802.11n? That link is showing 802.11b/g.
I laughed at this post.
Alan Says:
June 30th, 2010 at 11:24 am
THose of you voting for the nexus one, why??? as far as a phone goes the slide has way more capablity .
1. it has a better camera than the nexus
2. It has a slide out keyboard instead of all touch screen
3. comes preloaded with swype (nexus does not have it)
4. has my modes customization (nexus does not)
5. Has a genius button (nexus does not )
6. costs way less, (you have to purchases nexus one through google, you cant make any changes to your plan for two years or your charged the whole rate)
7. has an optipad which is way better than a trackball (nexus does not)
8. has multitouch and flash player just like nexus one
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ATnTdude said:
I surprised the MyTouch Slide took out the Evo 4G. Not that it's that much better (speed and screen vs battery life and keyboard make it a draw for me), but that it won despite the technical specs favoring the Evo, and that usually is what carries in polls like these.
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A friend of mine has a EVO 4g and I gotta admit I wasn't impressed with it at all. I'm NOT trying to be a N1 fanbio but my N1 seems light years ahead of his EVO. I don't know if he got a bad one but he has had his phone lock up on him a few times while he was visiting (at least 3 times in a weekend). The screen while BIG is washed out. Man the backlight on that thing bleeds thru the edges like crazy.
Speed wise my N1 opened apps 10x fast. That could be because of 2.2 I don't know.
Oh and around my house his phone was showing 3g but it was no doubt on EDGE. He was getting 76kbps down the whole time. I turned off 3g on my N1 and we were getting nearly the same speeds.
Needless to say I felt bad because he went home wishing he didn't get that phone. But over all my phone just crushed his.
It does have N. I'm not sure why they left it as b/g.
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I laughed at this post.
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Hehe me too. I love how they think the "genius button" is some amazing tool.
Also can someone explain to me how having a keyboard is a plus AND having Swype is a plus? I mean if you have a keyboard why do you need Swype? If you have Swype why do you need a keyboard?
How did evo lose to the slide, it doesn't make sense. It's rigged
htc fan89 said:
How did evo lose to the slide, it doesn't make sense. It's rigged
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More MyTouch 3g Slide owners voted then EVO 4g owners. I mean really do you think people vote for the better phone or do they vote for the phone they own?
[IO]ERROR said:
A friend of mine has a EVO 4g and I gotta admit I wasn't impressed with it at all. I'm NOT trying to be a N1 fanbio but my N1 seems light years ahead of his EVO. I don't know if he got a bad one but he has had his phone lock up on him a few times while he was visiting (at least 3 times in a weekend). The screen while BIG is washed out. Man the backlight on that thing bleeds thru the edges like crazy.
Speed wise my N1 opened apps 10x fast. That could be because of 2.2 I don't know.
Oh and around my house his phone was showing 3g but it was no doubt on EDGE. He was getting 76kbps down the whole time. I turned off 3g on my N1 and we were getting nearly the same speeds.
Needless to say I felt bad because he went home wishing he didn't get that phone. But over all my phone just crushed his.
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sense is bloated that's why, vanilla android ftw.
Nexus owns the slide, no question. Will be interesting to see how it does versus the Droids though. I think the Nexus is a superphone.
My friend got the EVO...and all i can say is that the scrolling was SOOO choppy.. and it feels so bulky. He agreed and returned it back....Now i have played with the Incredible and believe me when i say that this is the closest competetor to the N1. Love how it has 8GB built in and the camera aint no pushover...but still N1 is in its own catagory. I hope Google continues the Nexus line for many years to come.
Get ready tomorrow to vote for the Nexus in the final round!
Looks like its gonna be Incredible vs the Nexus One.
Nexus should rule...but every vote counts!
http://blog.laptopmag.com/android-cup-final-google-nexus-one-vs-droid-incredible Everyone go vote..at 8:25AM CST Voting stand at
Google Nexus One 27.5% (11 votes)
Droid Incredible 72.5% (29 votes)
Total Votes: 40
Just voted for the N1. To show how awesome the N1 is, I then proceeded to send the voting page to my N1 through the chrome to phone extension (thanks to Froyo), and voted on my N1 as well
Isn't the genious button the same thing as our search button?
Hahaha. I love how they referenced the now infamous EVO 4G vs iPhone 4 video in the finals...
Here are the two phones. As you’ll see from the specs, they’re pretty evenly matched. They both have the Wi-Fis and the G B’s
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Google Nexus One 29% (152 votes)
Droid Incredible 71% (375 votes)
Total Votes: 527
Cmon people!

Up for upgrade. Epic or Evo

I am up for an upgrade in a week and have been weighing my options for a while and am currently leaning towards the Epic, but was hoping to get some insight from the Epic community and hopefully some people that have used both phones. My main concern with the Epic is that of Sammy and their history of not supporting hardware. I still have a bad taste in my mouth over the Instinct(great hardware, terrible software and support). I don't care that much about the home screen part of either or the mail app as I will be using GMail and LauncherPro. One question I have is how many serious and talented linux devs are there that work on the Epic? I know most of the Hero devs went to the Evo. I currently have a Hero running CM6. I like some parts of Sense, but it's performance was a major turn-off and was what made me turn to ASOP. As far as the keyboard goes, I am undecided on whether I will actually like/use it or not. The only thing I see myself using it for is gaming emulators. Another concern is I have heard something about GPS issues, have they been fixed or acknowledged? I am open to input and am truly on the border here. Also, has a root been found for the epic yet? This is a big one for me so that I can at least remove the sprint crapware.
I would say go for the evo. Not long ago I was in the same boat a you. I did a ton off research, and played with both phones extensively. I chose the evo, and it its the most amazing phone I've ever seen. Now that htc uncapped the fps, there is really no problems. The epic is great, but imo the evo is better.
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I own both. I prefer the Epic for the keyboard. However, I dislike its screen for late night bed surfing lol. All AMOLEDs are way too bright in the dark.
Couple other noticeable things for me:
Screen: Epic for brightness/colors, however EVO has better responsiveness (assuming hardware/software issue for Epic)
Screen FPS: Epic, but they just released official fix for EVO
Text input: Epic since it has hardware keyboard in addition to touch
Battery life: EVO hands down, my Epic seems to die too fast and I never used any type of battery saving application on EVO
Power button location: Blows on Epic, why did they put it on the side??
Phone Size: Epic is lighter and smaller
ROM Development: EVO because its a HTC device, but I hope this changes soon
And I'd go with the Epic. I got my girlfriend her first smartphone 3 months ago and got her the Evo. Played with it for a few weeks and definitely liked the phone. Then I came up for an upgrade and I had the same decision to make. I ended up chosing the Epic as it seems it is a fewer months older and has a few slight upgrades over the Evo, but not much.
The Epic screen is ridiculously amazing. They do NOT compare. I love having a hard keyboard, and I text a lot more because of it. It's been two phones and about 3 years since I had a keyboard, but I picked it right up and my fingers flew.
Touchwiz is very nice, but I got rid of it after a few days, well actually the 3rd day once I rooted. I did the same with Sense on my Hero, like it, but I rather go completely customizable with a custom launcher.
Another great thing about the Epic is the notificatoin settings bar. You can adjust a few settings like wifi, 4g, bluetooth, brightness and airplane mode all from the pull down bar. And it even works without Touchwiz, which was a surprise to me. This feature alone gives me a big vote for epic over evo.
It seems the Epic's cpu runs a little faster/more efficientyly than the Evo's. The battery life on both is about what you can expect, if you use it a lot, plan on charging it during the day. Are you into rooting and getting the most out of your phone? Then you can get extensively better battery duration.
Right now, there isn't a lot of extra stuff you can do on a rooted Epic, but the phone's only been out a few weeks and the Evo has a jumpstart on developmental stuff. Also, the Evo is already on 2.2 where the Epic is still on 2.1, although rumors have it getting 2.2 in the next month.
Gps issue is definitely a problem on the Epic. I use my GPS about 5 times a day as I travel to different sites for my job. There is a delay in getting a good lock, but there should be a fix for this soon, and it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I usually get a lock within a minute. But I'll be happy when I get that instantaneous lock again.
One thing the Evo definitely has on the Epic is a bit bigger screen, .3", and HDMI out. That function is disabled on the Epic for some reason. I've heard a few reasons, but who knows. I use the DLNA option instead as my TV is new enough to support it.
I came from 3 generations of HTC phones before this, so it was hard for me to leave HTC. In the end, either way you're getting an awesome phone. so good luck with this decision!
epic camera owns the evo. period
I own both and would say EVO hands down. I thought the physical keyboard would be for me as that was the hardest to get used to on my EVO but after using both extensively I'd get the EVO. Where a few people like being able to adjust wifi/bluetooth and whatnot from the upper status pulldown, on the EVO it's a widget called "Power Control". To me this gives the same ease. Having both the EVO and the EPIC side by side I wouldn't say the EPIC screen blows away the EVO. Colors seem more blue on the EPIC and amoled is nice but I'd take my EVO any day for the .3 larger screen + it doesn't look bad at all.
Now if you're HEAVY into games and that's the main purpose for your phone then I'd recommend you get the EPIC. GPS isn't as big of an issue as people make it out to be BUT that being said there's been a few times when I needed it *now* and was waiting for about 3-5 minutes which I am sorry is NOT cool. The EVO locks on almost instantly, and most places I have tried indoor as well (obviously in a concrete office building it's not going to work... but at home in my bedroom it works fine).
I would suggest that you go to a Sprint store and really play with both for ~20 minutes each...
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monadzback said:
epic camera owns the evo. period
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Not true
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basically epic if u like physical kbs or evo if not
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Not true
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Yes it is.
Having owned, and done extensive reviews and research on both I can conclude that the Epic's camera is much better than the Evos. The saturation, contrast, and white balance are all superior. Not to mention the video camera is only bested by the iPhone4.
I owned the Evo b4 the Epic. I liked the Evo, because the development for the device is amazing. The kickstand on the Evo is also great and comes in handy. Now that the 30fps caps is removed, it is even a greater phone.
I chose the Epic for a smaller form factor in phone size. I had to use two hands to use the Evo and my fingers would not reach across the screen without touching my skin. The Evo camera is not as good as the Epic, 23 fps vs 29/30fps at a constant rate. I like have an option of a physical keyboard to use only *if* I am typing a long email, playing a emulator or just getting tired of using the on screen keyboard. The AMOLED screen pwns the LCD screen and the Epics GPU is amazing, I run everything smoothly on my Epic.
In my opinion they are both great phones, but if you prefer a bigger form factor and a great development scene go for the Evo. If you prefer a great overall device that has everything built in for a phone then choose the Epic.
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Yes it is.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/epic-vs-evo-the-cameras/
The EVO can't shoot HD video in low light situations. It goes at around 10-15 FPS. It's blurrier during the day. It over saturates the colors. The 8MP on the camera is totally pointless because the quality of the camera doesn't measure up.
My Epic takes much better pictures than my EVO. But regardless... there are far MORE IMPORTANT reasons to get a phone.
drewX2 said:
I own both. I prefer the Epic for the keyboard. However, I dislike its screen for late night bed surfing lol. All AMOLEDs are way too bright in the dark.
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lol I agree! I own both also and the super AMOLED is way too bright even at its lowest setting. I do love both devices equally though
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monadzback said:
epic camera owns the evo. period
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Have you owned both? Care to give any reasons/data explaining why?
hydralisk said:
Yes it is.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/epic-vs-evo-the-cameras/
The EVO can't shoot HD video in low light situations. It goes at around 10-15 FPS. It's blurrier during the day. It over saturates the colors. The 8MP on the camera is totally pointless because the quality of the camera doesn't measure up.
My Epic takes much better pictures than my EVO. But regardless... there are far MORE IMPORTANT reasons to get a phone.
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Apparently you haven't used cm6 on the EVO. IT does wonders for the camera and does things that no other camera app does as of yet; touch to focus while in camcorder mode....I get 24ish fps in 720p in low light with cm6.
Look, I own both, they both have their pros/cons but NEVER ever would I say one owns the other. It almost like Mac vs. PC they both do some things well....and others not so well.
Epic, is my vote, root is already out. Out of the box, epic is so much better. I still have my evo, but I never pick it up.
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My pick is the Evo. I got the Epic at launch, but it never felt right for me. I was also annoyed at the current bugs, which I can confirm it has. I just didn't have faith in Samsung to come out with a fix for them all, especially in my 30 window.
I returned it for the Evo and was amazed how much more I liked the Evo. Just feels like the better phone imo. Battery life is much better on the Evo than the Epic for me too.
Good luck.
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Either one you pick you wil be happy. I ended up going with the epic for the better screen, better processor and gpu and the keyboard. Even though im starting to use the screen keyboard alot more now that i installed the droid x keyboard.. i take the train to work everyday so i watch movies and play games on a daily basis.. and despite the screen size disadvantage the epic has.. movies look so much better.. and believe me i've tried both
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Either one you pick you wil be happy.
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Agreed! They are both good machines(?), err phones. As I said in an earlier post, it'd be stupid to not go to Sprint and really play with both for like 10-20 minutes each. Download quadrant, neocore, your favorite app(s), etc., etc. and run it all on both and make an informed decision. Most Sprint employees (around were I live) recommend the EVO, that said, don't let a sales person sway you one way or another.
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Agreed! They are both good machines(?), err phones. As I said in an earlier post, it'd be stupid to not go to Sprint and really play with both for like 10-20 minutes each. Download quadrant, neocore, your favorite app(s), etc., etc. and run it all on both and make an informed decision. Most Sprint employees (around were I live) recommend the EVO, that said, don't let a sales person sway you one way or another.
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I plan on it. I have been to best buy twice, but for some reason in their great wisdom they only have mockups so you cant play around with them. I am going to buy it at best buy so I get my reward points and better returns.
I have both, bought Evo, really liked it, but when the Epic came out, tried it, loved it, gave Evo to hubby.
Handsize and feel is important to me, the Epic fits hand better, buttons are in more convenient place for one hand usage, Love Swype, love screen, rooted but staying with Touchwiz because its so smooth (and waiting for 2.2
before I mess with other roms). The pics are awesome, as are some of the apps, especially Google Sky. It actually runs a little faster than Evo in opening apps.
Now hubby loves Evo, bigger feel in hands, screen, but to me, colors look more washed out. However, he is color blind so can tell no difference.
I came from rooted Hero, so like Touchwiz better than Sense. Its a comfort zone, they are both great, play with them, if we didn't have two to chose from, everyone would like the one choice they have.
P.S. My only wish would be no keyboard on Epic and thinner, never use it with large on screen keyboards and Swype.

Evo or Evo Shift

I currently have a Moment (and it sucks: which is why I don't want an Epic yet alone another Samsung).
I'm wanting a new phone that can handle 3d games without lagging.
I have heard that the new Evo Shift will have the same 800mhz chip that is in the new G2. That chip has been overclocked to a stable 1.6ghz and getting over 3000 in Quadrant.
Also the other rumor is that the Shift will have an upgraded GPU. Which is even better.
Honestly the 3.8" screen isn't that much smaller than the screen on the Evo. It could be the perfect size.
Plus it has a physical keyboard.
Truthfully, it sounds like I already made up my mind. But I guess I have to wait until specs and reviews are out for this phone.
Anyone else getting this Shift over an Evo?
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If the 3D gaming is that important, and it was concerning the two, than sure I think most would suggest the Shift.
But at this point I'd also suggest seeing what's on the horizon and truth be told Sprint doesn't have the grandest selection but I can see that changing. Some big **** around the corner, but if now - or soon - a new phone is needed and that's what your primary concern is, then the Shift probably your best bet.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
CES is coming up this week, I believe, so I'd hold off and see what news comes out of there. Might be something sweet coming down the pipe. We'll have to see.
Ohh! Ohhh! Get Both The evo for now and the shift when it comes out
because you want games...
then EVO Shift is for you!
I need the bigger screen. It dont sound like much... but when you put them side by side... it is a big difference!
Dan330 said:
because you want games...
then EVO Shift is for you!
I need the bigger screen. It dont sound like much... but when you put them side by side... it is a big difference!
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True. But the super amoled screen of the epic is awesome. I actually like that than the evo. It really is all up to what the final specs are off the Shift.
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if gaming is what you want, shift could be for you. do not get the shift for the keyboard. i can type faster on swype than i ever could with a slide out. you might not think .4 inches is much, but the evo screen is much bigger than the shift screen. i'd look at both side by side and see.
>_<
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>_<
Swyped from my EVO
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<_>
Personally, I would wait for something else all together.
Something with a better processor & gpu. This summer should have what you're looking for (although maybe not from HTC).
If you want games then, as said, the Shift is probably for you.
As for physical keyboards, overrated. When I had a Samsung Intercept while my EVO was being "serviced" by Best Buy I only used it because the touch screen was so useless on that thing.
Typing on the EVO is awesome. Keys are bigger than any slide out since the screen is so big. It all comes to preference though.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/01/02/sprints-htc-evo-shift-4g-specs-leak-online/
some more specs have been released...
I am considering it.
I want a front facing camera... and 8meg camera.
i want to hear about the CPU/GPU and RAM.
can I live with 3.7" vs my current EVO 4.3"??
what are your thoughts on the dev community for this phone?
The EVO has so much more activity before it was released. And the Dev community is great on the EVO.
Latest spoiler from a feed that I'm subscribed to only has this Shift with a 5 mega-pixel camera not 8 and no front camera.
If this is true then I will not get this phone. I'll buy a pair of EVO's off eBay and save my upgrades for something better.
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Why not consider the epic. You had an old samsung phone that sucked? Well I had an old htc phone that sucked 2 years ago, but all phones are different.
The samsung galaxy s line is really fast, and with the new ext4 mod on the epic, its crazy fast, like nexus s fast.
If you care about a keyboard, gaming, and camera quality the epic will be as good as or better than the shift.
And don't fall into the mega pixel trap when comparing cameras. The evo camera aint great and video sucks. The shift will be just like the tmobile g2, which is very good. Finally the epic takes pictures and video that rival the iphone in quality, which is to say the best in class for cellphones. With the epic , you can leave your digital camera at home.
Really do a thorough comparison of the epic and evo shift in person before you decide. Don't let yourself be fooled by differnces in 2.1 vs 2.2 software or touchwiz vs sense. You will have changed all your software in a week anyway with xda.
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navoid said:
Why not consider the epic. You had an old samsung phone that sucked? Well I had an old htc phone that sucked 2 years ago, but all phones are different.
The samsung galaxy s line is really fast, and with the new ext4 mod on the epic, its crazy fast, like nexus s fast.
If you care about a keyboard, gaming, and camera quality the epic will be as good as or better than the shift.
And don't fall into the mega pixel trap when comparing cameras. The evo camera aint great and video sucks. The shift will be just like the tmobile g2, which is very good. Finally the epic takes pictures and video that rival the iphone in quality, which is to say the best in class for cellphones. With the epic , you can leave your digital camera at home.
Really do a thorough comparison of the epic and evo shift in person before you decide. Don't let yourself be fooled by differnces in 2.1 vs 2.2 software or touchwiz vs sense. You will have changed all your software in a week anyway with xda.
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LOL difference is everyone was hesitant to jump back on with Samsung, and for good reason. At least these people that were nervous can sleep easy knowing they were right and that Samsung hasn't done much to change the tune others sing. And when the day arrives that I leave my digitial camera at home and rely SOLELY on a phone ... well, heck, that probably wont happen for a while. I've seen pictures taken with a crappy old 3mp digital cam that look crisper and better in every sense of the word.
Samsung dropped the ball, Epic has nice hardware but they don't compare to HTC. And HTC may not have a perfect track record in the past but they have definitely stepped it up lately.
The Galaxy S phones have been pretty down the middle, some good to go with all that bad.
edit; don't want to discount the fact that the Epic is a decent phone, will be the 3rd best Sprint offering (Whoa - never thought I'd give Sprint props like that) but it should at least "irk" you, and maybe not you directly, with how the whole Galaxy S phones have been handled. Especially with all the talk of Android not getting updates and Samsung support being piss poor. 2.1 treats it fine, my buddies epic flies sure but Touchwiz is horrid and the state of support or lack thereof should be the straw that breaks the camels back or however the hell that goes. I couldn't see anyone honestly suggesting the Epic over the Shift though, as was my point. And the Mega pixel jab, that was true and maybe a low blow but when people hear someone saying "this camera ownz leave dat digi at home, homeboi" it only sets people up for disappointment. Truly and honestly. That's a slight(ly bogus) exaggeration. If not, you must not possess a decent shooter. And no, I'm not talking about the one on the back of the phone.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
Get the shift
i know 3.8 doesn't sound much smaller, but when you see them side by side the difference is significant. if I was buying a phone now is go with the 4.3” HTC Thunderbolt coming out in a few days on Verizon.
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epic... is good.
but there are things that just add up.. to point me away from the epic.
these things have been discussed many times.
I just want to point out 1 thing.... the backing of HTC products in XDA and other forums by Devs. the choices !!!!!!
that is top of my list for any phone.
Check out this review of the evo shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZET2gMKAH2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As you can see from side by side pictures the screen is incredible small against the EVO generation 1. I would agree with the others, wait for CES, i'm sure sprint have a EVO 2 around the corner, after using a 4.3 inch screen i don't want to go down to smaller, just my opinion. To me the shift might be a little bit better for gaming, albeit it's not a HUGE step up. If it had the hummingbird cpu i would say get it, but even now dual cpus moving in, so just try to be patient, because in the long run you will regret it, especially if you're on contract.
[edit] http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/sprint-trots-out-htc-evo-shift-4g-and-new-3g-4g-mifi-from-nova/ - And it has no FFC sorry to bust your bubbles lol.
mykenyc said:
Check out this review of the evo shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZET2gMKAH2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As you can see from side by side pictures the screen is incredible small against the EVO generation 1. I would agree with the others, wait for CES, i'm sure sprint have a EVO 2 around the corner, after using a 4.3 inch screen i don't want to go down to smaller, just my opinion. To me the shift might be a little bit better for gaming, albeit it's not a HUGE step up. If it had the hummingbird cpu i would say get it, but even now dual cpus moving in, so just try to be patient, because in the long run you will regret it, especially if you're on contract.
[edit] http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/sprint-trots-out-htc-evo-shift-4g-and-new-3g-4g-mifi-from-nova/ - And it has no FFC sorry to bust your bubbles lol.
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Thanks for the links man, my wife has been smitten with the Evo Shift since I originally found leaked pics of it and she'll be excited to see a video of it being used. I've been trying to get her to wait to see what else comes out or to perhaps get a regular Evo but she is convinced she needs a keyboard (I felt the same way but now that I use Swype 99 times out of 100 I wish I had gotten an Evo and not an Epic but such is life). Anyways, I'm looking forward to reading the Evo Shift board and hope some of the veterans of the Evo board help out over there (assuming the similar form factor extends to the software architecture...Hey, I've got an epic and none of the related phones offer any software relatability lol)

Atrix overated

Ive had the Atrix now for a few days and honestly its overrated. Its stutters alot when i have the live wallpaper on.
Even games ....they look better... like samurai and backbreaker but they still stutter like on other android phones.
Tegra 2 as of Now is nothing special. I thought the OS would be faster but its not. Blur stinks
The reviews said this was a FASSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT phone. Ummm compared to what? My friends iphone seems faster, smoother and honestly better..
I think im getting rid of it , at best ill hold onto it till iphone 5 comes out. nyone else diapointed or expected more?
just get the iphone...
yeah i think your right. i had the INSPIRE and that seemed faster. I gotta sweat it out i guess and hope it gets better or wait till iphone 5 now.
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Ive had the Atrix now for a few days and honestly its overrated. Its stutters alot when i have the live wallpaper on.
Even games ....they look better... like samurai and backbreaker but they still stutter like on other android phones.
Tegra 2 as of Now is nothing special. I thought the OS would be faster but its not. Blur stinks
The reviews said this was a FASSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT phone. Ummm compared to what? My friends iphone seems faster, smoother and honestly better..
I think im getting rid of it , at best ill hold onto it till iphone 5 comes out. nyone else diapointed or expected more?
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You must be on drugs if you think the iphone 4 is faster than the Atrix. I have an Aria, iphone 3gs and I had a Craptivate for a while. My wife has an Evo that I use for side by side comparison along with the 3gs. The Atrix is faster than all of them even when the Evo is overclocked. It's not even close epecially rendering web pages and scrolling through photos is buttery smooth.The Atrix plays flash videos that look like a slideshow with the Evo and Craptivate. You can't even watch those videos with an iphone 4. The Atrix also has better battery life than the other phones I've mentioned. I went 42 hours after the first full charge.
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yeah i think your right. i had the INSPIRE and that seemed faster. I gotta sweat it out i guess and hope it gets better or wait till iphone 5 now.
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Inspire is NOT faster than the atrix! I had both and used them to compare many things. Inspired is fast but the atrix shines on somewhat more intense apps/games. As far as the iPhone 4, it is fast. But I'm bored with the OS! One hardware button is old and dumb. Iphone 5 will be nice but if they keep that small screen I will never go back.
The isnpire would have been a keeper if it wasn't for the low volume on EVERYTHING. That at the poor battery life it had to go back. I do miss it though!
i would think the atrix specs should really kick as5 but looks as tho its getting mixed reviews.
i wouldnt say the atrix is over rated, i think its expectations might of.
what do i know as i dont own one or have had the opportinity to try one but the atrix is one of top phones i was considering get if i decide to get a new phone..
The problem with the Atrix vs Inspire is that you're comparing a phone with GPU acceleration (thank you HTC) to a phone without it (no thanks to you Moto).
Atrix will be awesome around November 2011, when it finally gets Ice Cream.
Yeah I guess. I have 4 months to wait and see and HOPE it gets better.
i totally dont agree. I have had the Atrix, Inspire, Captivate, (HD2 etc)
this is by far the slickest, fastest and best devive I have ever had. No stutter, good screen, great video and camera, great battery life, fantastic sound quality. Totally a keeper for me (FINALLY!)
Inspire was a dissapointment for me. felt like my HD2 on steroids.
Oh and I still think WM6.5 with sense was the best UI. But thats just me.
I think people were expecting this phone to **** rainbows and if it doesn't then it's a piece of ****.
I just ordered mine.... you are telling me it doesn't **** rainbows? damn....
It does in fact **** rainbows
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I think people were expecting this phone to **** rainbows and if it doesn't then it's a piece of ****.
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YUP! It was supposed to **** RAOnbows.
I had an iPhone 4, and I liked it. However, I love the android experience. That being said when ATT decided to step up their android game, I was eager. I got the inspire on launch because I am impatient. For a little I thought I would keep it, because generally it was an all around great phone. What it came down to (in the short run) is the battery life. I wanted a high tech phone I could play with and enjoy. The Atrix is just that. I don't have any issues you retarts are complaining of. the display is nice, the battery is huge, the phone is fast, (motoblur does kind of stink, but ADW launcher is really nice/is the default for the cyanogen mods so thats cool)... overall, rules. NOW STOP MAKING STUPID THREADS LIKE THIS! THERE ARE 1000049045842398 REVIEW THREADS/OPINIONS...PLEASE MERGE YOUR THOUGHTS TO SOMEONE ELSES!!!!
Great phone! (coming from 3GS and captivate)
mine ****s cupcakes with rainbow sprinkles
TareX said:
The problem with the Atrix vs Inspire is that you're comparing a phone with GPU acceleration (thank you HTC) to a phone without it (no thanks to you Moto).
Atrix will be awesome around November 2011, when it finally gets Ice Cream.
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You should check out the specs on the Tegra 2 again
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i totally dont agree. I have had the Atrix, Inspire, Captivate, (HD2 etc)
this is by far the slickest, fastest and best devive I have ever had. No stutter, good screen, great video and camera, great battery life, fantastic sound quality. Totally a keeper for me (FINALLY!)
Inspire was a dissapointment for me. felt like my HD2 on steroids.
Oh and I still think WM6.5 with sense was the best UI. But thats just me.
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I agree with everything you said, and more.
Inspire is just a gimped Evo And the Craptivate is the worst phone I've ever owned. Only an idiot would by those phones in 2011. There's alot of jealous Inspire and Craptivate owners raggin on the Atrix in an attempt to make themselves feel better and their reasoning is ridiculous.
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Inspire is just a gimped Evo And the Craptivate is the worst phone I've ever owned. Only an idiot would by those phones in 2011. There's alot of jealous Inspire and Craptivate owners raggin on the Atrix in an attempt to make themselves feel better and their reasoning is ridiculous.
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Captivate is great after installing certain roms which I have done. I had the inspire for a week and couldn't justify spending the full retail price for a larger screen and the ability to run aosp cm7. Yes the build quality far exceeds my captivate, but it didn't offer enough to warrant me keeping it. I have zero hate for the atrix its still just a phone after all. I actually am considering buying it and if I don't see enough reasons to keep it, then ill simply return it. There are some serious devices slated for this year and we will see some incredible tech and just like any other phone it too will be outdated very quickly.
I love the phone and I think the network is the issue here ...

htc evo to nexus s

has anyone gone from a evo to a nexus s.. I'm considering doing this, wanted to see what thoughts are..
No but I'm going to do it once the 4g drops !!!
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I know I can't wait, have you held one before, how it the size in the hand in comparison with the evo..
The Evo is nice and all but it's just a little too big for my pocket
Yes I've played with one at bestbuy honestly its about the same size but the evos width is what makes it feel so bulky however the curve look and lengthier look make it extremely sexy . My gf even likes it. The screen and speed are absolutely fantastic
Man, now you got me going.. How can you turn down that $69.99 everything plan from Sprint..
Not to mention stock Gingerbread, beautiful
I switched from the Evo to the NS a couple months ago. The only thing I miss about the Evo is the kickstand.
Performance-wise...there's no contest. The NS just destroys the Evo in every way I can think to compare the two (gaming, everyday use, benchmarks). I mean it's not even close. Coming from the iPhone 3GS (before my Evo), this was always a major complaint about the Evo.
The lcd screen on the Evo is a bit crisper than the amoled in terms of pixel density - this really makes itself apparent on fonts - but the color and contrast ratio on the NS are so superior that it makes this a non-issue imho. I hate looking at my Evo's screen - so washed out and yucky.
Complaints about the NS are: no HDMI out and the sound output (even with voodoo) isn't up to par with the wife's iPhone 4. It's also a bit slippery, but ghost armor solves that issue pretty well. Also no HD video (as far as we know at this point).
@abn.geek: thanks for all the great info man.. I know like everyone else the dual core phones are starting to come out of the woodword, but I'm honestly not all that siked about them and doesn't really phase me.. I think because the majority of them are over 4" and that's just too big for me..
I'm excited to see the Nex in action and I feel like the raw gingerbread stylings with no crazy overlay will be a perfect place to start modding..
I left the evo bone stock so i'm excited to get a little experience under my belt
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@abn.geek: thanks for all the great info man.. I know like everyone else the dual core phones are starting to come out of the woodword, but I'm honestly not all that siked about them and doesn't really phase me.. I think because the majority of them are over 4" and that's just too big for me..
I'm excited to see the Nex in action and I feel like the raw gingerbread stylings with no crazy overlay will be a perfect place to start modding..
I left the evo bone stock so i'm excited to get a little experience under my belt
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Yeah there are only a couple games I can think of at the moment where the 2-core phones would make a big difference. Not that I don't think those phones are cool, I just don't see a need right now. Maybe by the end of summer things will be different though, who knows .
good call, I'm just wondering if Sprint is going to spit anything else out.. I heard rumors of the Xoom and Atrix, I wonder if those are going to come to fruition..
Exactly my point for waiting on the dual cores I am excited but their really isn't much of a difference in performance yet, I'm sure the nexus 3 will come with quad or dual core. But I'm honestly satisfied with the speed of the hummingbird especially with stock gingerbread
right on, is there anything not to love.. I mean from what the evo lacks in screen clarity and performance i'm sure the Nexus blows it out of the water..
I can't wait to get my hands on one...
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Man, now you got me going.. How can you turn down that $69.99 everything plan from Sprint..
Not to mention stock Gingerbread, beautiful
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Because its not 69.99....its 79.99 with any data plan so they're lying jerks. I had the evo and I loved it but I wouldn't go back if someone paid me. The nexus s is miles better.
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I had the Evo from launch till about 4 months. Don't get me wrong it is a great phone but doesn't have the raw power and beauty that the Nexus S has.
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I also had the Evo at launch, and changed to the nexus-s a couple months ago. No regrets, the NS is a more satisfying phone for me.
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has anyone gone from a evo to a nexus s.. I'm considering doing this, wanted to see what thoughts are..
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I did, and never regret it for a second. I liked the EVO, but after awhile it feels like a brick in your pocket, just too heavy and thick. Plus battery life blows, even with a great netarchy and Myn's ROM, still ****ty battery life.
The feather weight of the Nexus-S is great, and fits in your hand perfectly. And the battery life is excellent.

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