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Finally back to EVO. My Epic journey :)

I got an EVO right after launch and loved it. I had a problem with the camera not working (defect). Best Buy didn't know when they were getting any back in so I canceled my upgrade and waited for the Epic. The Epic is an amazing piece of hardware. The screen has to be seen to be believed. That being said my first Epic was returned because the capacitive buttons didn't work at all. Best Buy swapped me out without a problem. My second one seemed to to be perfect (aside from the movement of the screen when the slider was closed).
After having it a few days I really liked the screen and the idea of the physical keyboard. However, I soon realized that the honeymoon phase was over when I tried to use the GPS and could only lock 1 sat no matter where I was. Then I noticed that I was getting what appeared to image retention. For example the notification bar left a faint image on the screen when on a all white screen (I only noticed cause I started hiding the notification bar with LaunchPro). Then I noticed that I could also see a faint image of the dialer buttons when on the same all white or blue screen. There are threads on here as well as other sites that detail how and why AMOLED screens have this issue. I guess the Nexus 1 had the same issue.
The keyboard was nice but the buttons were to spaced apart for me. I also didn't like the location of the power button it was awkward. I know that Samsung is "supposed" to fix the GPS but that remains to be seen. In my experience the screen was REALLY nice but if the image retention happens that easily it kinda ruins it for me. It's like the old school plasmas.
I was going to just swap it out again but honestly I expected the same problems. I called Best Buy this morning and told them what was happening and I asked if they had any EVO's and they actually received 1 white EVO this morning. They held it for me and the rest is history.
I have to say that coming full circle back to an Evo really feels great. I know on paper the Epic is supposed to be better and many like me were on the fence but the grass isn't always greener on the other side. The Evo feels better in my hand and it works. I just thought I would share my experience with switching to the Epic.

I was actually considering a switch but the more I read about it the more I want to stay with our evo
Swyped from my cm6

I took the plunge cause I couldn't get a hold of a replacement EVO. I really liked it at first but then all the negatives present themselves. The GPS is a HUGE deal for me and the image retention that I experienced was a deal breaker. I wish I took pictures of the the retention but the only camera I had was on the Epic.
I couldn't believe I found an EVO again. My new EVO came with 2.2 already on it.

ptfdmedic said:
feels better in my hand and it works.
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thats what she said!
j/k, month 4 and i'm still loving my evo man

IceCreaMan said:
j/k, month 4 and i'm still loving my evo man
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That's what she said! (I'm her Evo man.)
Ha ha! Punctuation.

ptfdmedic said:
I tried to use the GPS and could only lock 1 sat no matter where I was.
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This was the reason I returned my AT&T Captivate and switched to the EVO. Samsung claimed that the GPS was fixed in the Epic. Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision.

Yeah I've had my EVO since launch day June 4th, coming from the Touch Pro 2 I was honestly thinking of taking it back with in my 30 days and holding off for the Epic as well. Good god am I happy I didn't now. Even though I'm currently waiting on my 2nd replacement so in all my 3rd one since launch, it still beats all the bulls*** problems the Epic has. I mean image retention? really? The biggest deal breaker of them all has to be the fact that it's a SAMSUNG though. F*** SAMSUNG! HTC for life! I've been nothing but happy with HTC since the 6700, to the Mogul, to the Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 and now my amazing EVO =]

tdusen said:
This was the reason I returned my AT&T Captivate and switched to the EVO. Samsung claimed that the GPS was fixed in the Epic. Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision.
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You know what, I was playing with my friends Epic this past Saturday, for about 4 hours, and I never got a lock on the gps, during those four hours.

meh, aesthetically the evo wins in art design. too sleek, too minimal, light red/chrome accents.... love it.
never liked samsung's cellphone designs or their logo.
would like to have the improved graphics capabilities in the evo though.

The screen issue should have been expected lol. I bet the hardware keyboad would be nice to have but I am getting better with this on screen keyboard. The multi-touch droid x keyboard is nice for landscape and swype is great for portrait.
Samsung still makes crappy phones I guess lol. On another note I have never said I "love this phone" as many times as I have with the Evo. Im afraid to upgrade to the next best thing. I feel like a freaking power house with the Evo. Yeah there are other phones with the same or better specs but man this phone just does it all and does it all well. The FPS is arguably the biggest down side and I havnt had any issues with that yet. I do have it unlocked to almost 60 FPS though with CM6.

Epic Fail
Epic Fail!!

I carry both at all times and love them both...although the evo is my main.

I got the Epic the other day, had it for about 6 days, then returned it today and put myself on the waiting list for a White EVO 4G. I got a free EVO from Google's developer seeding program, and it is starting to have that "white spot" where the B on the soft keyboard is - and it's driving me crazy. Since I was given a complimentary EVO, I cannot have it serviced. So, White EVO 4G for me it is.
The EVO is a one of a kind device. The battery drain and TIME WITHOUT SIGNAL issues on the Epic are a dealbreaker. The GPS sucks, yeah, but it still WORKS. The screen door effect on the screen sucks but oh man is that screen beautiful. The hardware keyboard is good but I found myself using Swype 90% more of the time with the Epic.
HTC makes some solid stuff, and this is definitely a solid phone. The Epic 4G had major creaking issues, instantly out of the box - and that is just inexcusable for a $249 phone. The EVO is better built than the Epic and it costs .. less? Hmm..
Anyhow, obviously we're all different, but the battery drain issues were too much for me.

Im currently in the process of switching to Sprint from tmobile and looking into these two phones. Im coming from the samsung vibrant which should be an easy transition to the epic but i dont now if i can deal with the keyboard. Ive been playing around with my freinds evo alot and LOVE the size. 4.3 in display is awesome. Most people think 4in is just right but im one of those guys that think bigger is better .
Here are my pros for both
Epic
FAR better screen.
Better battery life.
Far better 3d perfromance
Slightly Better processor
Evo
Awsome 4.3 screen size
Better Development support
Dual LED
Better design/look
Leaning towards the evo right now only because im not a keyboard guy.

I would add to your pros list:
Epic
Far better video recording and dedicated shutter button
Evo
Froyo
Sense copy/paste
BTW, battery life on the Epic, depending on the user, is anywhere from a lot better to a lot worse than the Evo. The issue is the SAMOLED screen and the increased power consumption it needs to produce whites. If you watch a lot of video, especially movies with dark scenes, the battery will last a good while. But if you primarily surf the net and those pages are pretty much black text on white background, your battery experience will be worse. So battery life is a YMMV. Some reviewers thought it was better than the Evo, but Anandtech uses internet surfing to gauge battery life, and it was significantly shorter than the Evo when using 3G (but a skosh higher over 4G). The Evo lasted much longer over wifi.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/8

twilk73 said:
The screen issue should have been expected lol. I bet the hardware keyboad would be nice to have but I am getting better with this on screen keyboard. The multi-touch droid x keyboard is nice for landscape and swype is great for portrait.
Samsung still makes crappy phones I guess lol. On another note I have never said I "love this phone" as many times as I have with the Evo. Im afraid to upgrade to the next best thing. I feel like a freaking power house with the Evo. Yeah there are other phones with the same or better specs but man this phone just does it all and does it all well. The FPS is arguably the biggest down side and I havnt had any issues with that yet. I do have it unlocked to almost 60 FPS though with CM6.
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Actually when I was testing the epic, fps2d showed <45fps. Tested on 3-4 phones in the sprint store.

I have had several Samsung devices. The i760, The Moment etc and EVERY one of them has GPS issues that Samsung "tries" in vain to fix down the road.
It is just frightening how you can count on some companies to make the same mistakes over and over again!

Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.

TheBiles said:
Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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Its more solid than the vibrant, but it still feels lighter than evo. I guess its personal preference. Since i got used to the vibrant is feels great. First time i picked up the evo it felt to heavy, and because of its size i could really feel it when I put it in my pocket, but loved how it looked. But after playing with it for most of that day i got used to it and had no problems

TheBiles said:
Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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the keyboard does feel cheap. didn't like the buttons at all.

Evo or Evo Shift

I currently have a Moment (and it sucks: which is why I don't want an Epic yet alone another Samsung).
I'm wanting a new phone that can handle 3d games without lagging.
I have heard that the new Evo Shift will have the same 800mhz chip that is in the new G2. That chip has been overclocked to a stable 1.6ghz and getting over 3000 in Quadrant.
Also the other rumor is that the Shift will have an upgraded GPU. Which is even better.
Honestly the 3.8" screen isn't that much smaller than the screen on the Evo. It could be the perfect size.
Plus it has a physical keyboard.
Truthfully, it sounds like I already made up my mind. But I guess I have to wait until specs and reviews are out for this phone.
Anyone else getting this Shift over an Evo?
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If the 3D gaming is that important, and it was concerning the two, than sure I think most would suggest the Shift.
But at this point I'd also suggest seeing what's on the horizon and truth be told Sprint doesn't have the grandest selection but I can see that changing. Some big **** around the corner, but if now - or soon - a new phone is needed and that's what your primary concern is, then the Shift probably your best bet.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC

CES is coming up this week, I believe, so I'd hold off and see what news comes out of there. Might be something sweet coming down the pipe. We'll have to see.

Ohh! Ohhh! Get Both The evo for now and the shift when it comes out

because you want games...
then EVO Shift is for you!
I need the bigger screen. It dont sound like much... but when you put them side by side... it is a big difference!

Dan330 said:
because you want games...
then EVO Shift is for you!
I need the bigger screen. It dont sound like much... but when you put them side by side... it is a big difference!
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True. But the super amoled screen of the epic is awesome. I actually like that than the evo. It really is all up to what the final specs are off the Shift.
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if gaming is what you want, shift could be for you. do not get the shift for the keyboard. i can type faster on swype than i ever could with a slide out. you might not think .4 inches is much, but the evo screen is much bigger than the shift screen. i'd look at both side by side and see.

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Swyped from my EVO

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Swyped from my EVO
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<_>

Personally, I would wait for something else all together.
Something with a better processor & gpu. This summer should have what you're looking for (although maybe not from HTC).

If you want games then, as said, the Shift is probably for you.
As for physical keyboards, overrated. When I had a Samsung Intercept while my EVO was being "serviced" by Best Buy I only used it because the touch screen was so useless on that thing.
Typing on the EVO is awesome. Keys are bigger than any slide out since the screen is so big. It all comes to preference though.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/01/02/sprints-htc-evo-shift-4g-specs-leak-online/
some more specs have been released...
I am considering it.
I want a front facing camera... and 8meg camera.
i want to hear about the CPU/GPU and RAM.
can I live with 3.7" vs my current EVO 4.3"??
what are your thoughts on the dev community for this phone?
The EVO has so much more activity before it was released. And the Dev community is great on the EVO.

Latest spoiler from a feed that I'm subscribed to only has this Shift with a 5 mega-pixel camera not 8 and no front camera.
If this is true then I will not get this phone. I'll buy a pair of EVO's off eBay and save my upgrades for something better.
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Why not consider the epic. You had an old samsung phone that sucked? Well I had an old htc phone that sucked 2 years ago, but all phones are different.
The samsung galaxy s line is really fast, and with the new ext4 mod on the epic, its crazy fast, like nexus s fast.
If you care about a keyboard, gaming, and camera quality the epic will be as good as or better than the shift.
And don't fall into the mega pixel trap when comparing cameras. The evo camera aint great and video sucks. The shift will be just like the tmobile g2, which is very good. Finally the epic takes pictures and video that rival the iphone in quality, which is to say the best in class for cellphones. With the epic , you can leave your digital camera at home.
Really do a thorough comparison of the epic and evo shift in person before you decide. Don't let yourself be fooled by differnces in 2.1 vs 2.2 software or touchwiz vs sense. You will have changed all your software in a week anyway with xda.
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navoid said:
Why not consider the epic. You had an old samsung phone that sucked? Well I had an old htc phone that sucked 2 years ago, but all phones are different.
The samsung galaxy s line is really fast, and with the new ext4 mod on the epic, its crazy fast, like nexus s fast.
If you care about a keyboard, gaming, and camera quality the epic will be as good as or better than the shift.
And don't fall into the mega pixel trap when comparing cameras. The evo camera aint great and video sucks. The shift will be just like the tmobile g2, which is very good. Finally the epic takes pictures and video that rival the iphone in quality, which is to say the best in class for cellphones. With the epic , you can leave your digital camera at home.
Really do a thorough comparison of the epic and evo shift in person before you decide. Don't let yourself be fooled by differnces in 2.1 vs 2.2 software or touchwiz vs sense. You will have changed all your software in a week anyway with xda.
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LOL difference is everyone was hesitant to jump back on with Samsung, and for good reason. At least these people that were nervous can sleep easy knowing they were right and that Samsung hasn't done much to change the tune others sing. And when the day arrives that I leave my digitial camera at home and rely SOLELY on a phone ... well, heck, that probably wont happen for a while. I've seen pictures taken with a crappy old 3mp digital cam that look crisper and better in every sense of the word.
Samsung dropped the ball, Epic has nice hardware but they don't compare to HTC. And HTC may not have a perfect track record in the past but they have definitely stepped it up lately.
The Galaxy S phones have been pretty down the middle, some good to go with all that bad.
edit; don't want to discount the fact that the Epic is a decent phone, will be the 3rd best Sprint offering (Whoa - never thought I'd give Sprint props like that) but it should at least "irk" you, and maybe not you directly, with how the whole Galaxy S phones have been handled. Especially with all the talk of Android not getting updates and Samsung support being piss poor. 2.1 treats it fine, my buddies epic flies sure but Touchwiz is horrid and the state of support or lack thereof should be the straw that breaks the camels back or however the hell that goes. I couldn't see anyone honestly suggesting the Epic over the Shift though, as was my point. And the Mega pixel jab, that was true and maybe a low blow but when people hear someone saying "this camera ownz leave dat digi at home, homeboi" it only sets people up for disappointment. Truly and honestly. That's a slight(ly bogus) exaggeration. If not, you must not possess a decent shooter. And no, I'm not talking about the one on the back of the phone.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC

Get the shift

i know 3.8 doesn't sound much smaller, but when you see them side by side the difference is significant. if I was buying a phone now is go with the 4.3” HTC Thunderbolt coming out in a few days on Verizon.
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epic... is good.
but there are things that just add up.. to point me away from the epic.
these things have been discussed many times.
I just want to point out 1 thing.... the backing of HTC products in XDA and other forums by Devs. the choices !!!!!!
that is top of my list for any phone.

Check out this review of the evo shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZET2gMKAH2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As you can see from side by side pictures the screen is incredible small against the EVO generation 1. I would agree with the others, wait for CES, i'm sure sprint have a EVO 2 around the corner, after using a 4.3 inch screen i don't want to go down to smaller, just my opinion. To me the shift might be a little bit better for gaming, albeit it's not a HUGE step up. If it had the hummingbird cpu i would say get it, but even now dual cpus moving in, so just try to be patient, because in the long run you will regret it, especially if you're on contract.
[edit] http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/sprint-trots-out-htc-evo-shift-4g-and-new-3g-4g-mifi-from-nova/ - And it has no FFC sorry to bust your bubbles lol.

mykenyc said:
Check out this review of the evo shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZET2gMKAH2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As you can see from side by side pictures the screen is incredible small against the EVO generation 1. I would agree with the others, wait for CES, i'm sure sprint have a EVO 2 around the corner, after using a 4.3 inch screen i don't want to go down to smaller, just my opinion. To me the shift might be a little bit better for gaming, albeit it's not a HUGE step up. If it had the hummingbird cpu i would say get it, but even now dual cpus moving in, so just try to be patient, because in the long run you will regret it, especially if you're on contract.
[edit] http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/sprint-trots-out-htc-evo-shift-4g-and-new-3g-4g-mifi-from-nova/ - And it has no FFC sorry to bust your bubbles lol.
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Thanks for the links man, my wife has been smitten with the Evo Shift since I originally found leaked pics of it and she'll be excited to see a video of it being used. I've been trying to get her to wait to see what else comes out or to perhaps get a regular Evo but she is convinced she needs a keyboard (I felt the same way but now that I use Swype 99 times out of 100 I wish I had gotten an Evo and not an Epic but such is life). Anyways, I'm looking forward to reading the Evo Shift board and hope some of the veterans of the Evo board help out over there (assuming the similar form factor extends to the software architecture...Hey, I've got an epic and none of the related phones offer any software relatability lol)

Atrix overated

Ive had the Atrix now for a few days and honestly its overrated. Its stutters alot when i have the live wallpaper on.
Even games ....they look better... like samurai and backbreaker but they still stutter like on other android phones.
Tegra 2 as of Now is nothing special. I thought the OS would be faster but its not. Blur stinks
The reviews said this was a FASSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT phone. Ummm compared to what? My friends iphone seems faster, smoother and honestly better..
I think im getting rid of it , at best ill hold onto it till iphone 5 comes out. nyone else diapointed or expected more?

just get the iphone...

yeah i think your right. i had the INSPIRE and that seemed faster. I gotta sweat it out i guess and hope it gets better or wait till iphone 5 now.

martyotaku said:
Ive had the Atrix now for a few days and honestly its overrated. Its stutters alot when i have the live wallpaper on.
Even games ....they look better... like samurai and backbreaker but they still stutter like on other android phones.
Tegra 2 as of Now is nothing special. I thought the OS would be faster but its not. Blur stinks
The reviews said this was a FASSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT phone. Ummm compared to what? My friends iphone seems faster, smoother and honestly better..
I think im getting rid of it , at best ill hold onto it till iphone 5 comes out. nyone else diapointed or expected more?
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You must be on drugs if you think the iphone 4 is faster than the Atrix. I have an Aria, iphone 3gs and I had a Craptivate for a while. My wife has an Evo that I use for side by side comparison along with the 3gs. The Atrix is faster than all of them even when the Evo is overclocked. It's not even close epecially rendering web pages and scrolling through photos is buttery smooth.The Atrix plays flash videos that look like a slideshow with the Evo and Craptivate. You can't even watch those videos with an iphone 4. The Atrix also has better battery life than the other phones I've mentioned. I went 42 hours after the first full charge.

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yeah i think your right. i had the INSPIRE and that seemed faster. I gotta sweat it out i guess and hope it gets better or wait till iphone 5 now.
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Inspire is NOT faster than the atrix! I had both and used them to compare many things. Inspired is fast but the atrix shines on somewhat more intense apps/games. As far as the iPhone 4, it is fast. But I'm bored with the OS! One hardware button is old and dumb. Iphone 5 will be nice but if they keep that small screen I will never go back.
The isnpire would have been a keeper if it wasn't for the low volume on EVERYTHING. That at the poor battery life it had to go back. I do miss it though!

i would think the atrix specs should really kick as5 but looks as tho its getting mixed reviews.
i wouldnt say the atrix is over rated, i think its expectations might of.
what do i know as i dont own one or have had the opportinity to try one but the atrix is one of top phones i was considering get if i decide to get a new phone..

The problem with the Atrix vs Inspire is that you're comparing a phone with GPU acceleration (thank you HTC) to a phone without it (no thanks to you Moto).
Atrix will be awesome around November 2011, when it finally gets Ice Cream.

Yeah I guess. I have 4 months to wait and see and HOPE it gets better.

i totally dont agree. I have had the Atrix, Inspire, Captivate, (HD2 etc)
this is by far the slickest, fastest and best devive I have ever had. No stutter, good screen, great video and camera, great battery life, fantastic sound quality. Totally a keeper for me (FINALLY!)
Inspire was a dissapointment for me. felt like my HD2 on steroids.
Oh and I still think WM6.5 with sense was the best UI. But thats just me.

I think people were expecting this phone to **** rainbows and if it doesn't then it's a piece of ****.

I just ordered mine.... you are telling me it doesn't **** rainbows? damn....

It does in fact **** rainbows
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ApplCobbler said:
I think people were expecting this phone to **** rainbows and if it doesn't then it's a piece of ****.
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YUP! It was supposed to **** RAOnbows.
I had an iPhone 4, and I liked it. However, I love the android experience. That being said when ATT decided to step up their android game, I was eager. I got the inspire on launch because I am impatient. For a little I thought I would keep it, because generally it was an all around great phone. What it came down to (in the short run) is the battery life. I wanted a high tech phone I could play with and enjoy. The Atrix is just that. I don't have any issues you retarts are complaining of. the display is nice, the battery is huge, the phone is fast, (motoblur does kind of stink, but ADW launcher is really nice/is the default for the cyanogen mods so thats cool)... overall, rules. NOW STOP MAKING STUPID THREADS LIKE THIS! THERE ARE 1000049045842398 REVIEW THREADS/OPINIONS...PLEASE MERGE YOUR THOUGHTS TO SOMEONE ELSES!!!!

Great phone! (coming from 3GS and captivate)

mine ****s cupcakes with rainbow sprinkles

TareX said:
The problem with the Atrix vs Inspire is that you're comparing a phone with GPU acceleration (thank you HTC) to a phone without it (no thanks to you Moto).
Atrix will be awesome around November 2011, when it finally gets Ice Cream.
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You should check out the specs on the Tegra 2 again

ekerbuddyeker said:
i totally dont agree. I have had the Atrix, Inspire, Captivate, (HD2 etc)
this is by far the slickest, fastest and best devive I have ever had. No stutter, good screen, great video and camera, great battery life, fantastic sound quality. Totally a keeper for me (FINALLY!)
Inspire was a dissapointment for me. felt like my HD2 on steroids.
Oh and I still think WM6.5 with sense was the best UI. But thats just me.
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I agree with everything you said, and more.

Inspire is just a gimped Evo And the Craptivate is the worst phone I've ever owned. Only an idiot would by those phones in 2011. There's alot of jealous Inspire and Craptivate owners raggin on the Atrix in an attempt to make themselves feel better and their reasoning is ridiculous.

Exador said:
Inspire is just a gimped Evo And the Craptivate is the worst phone I've ever owned. Only an idiot would by those phones in 2011. There's alot of jealous Inspire and Craptivate owners raggin on the Atrix in an attempt to make themselves feel better and their reasoning is ridiculous.
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Captivate is great after installing certain roms which I have done. I had the inspire for a week and couldn't justify spending the full retail price for a larger screen and the ability to run aosp cm7. Yes the build quality far exceeds my captivate, but it didn't offer enough to warrant me keeping it. I have zero hate for the atrix its still just a phone after all. I actually am considering buying it and if I don't see enough reasons to keep it, then ill simply return it. There are some serious devices slated for this year and we will see some incredible tech and just like any other phone it too will be outdated very quickly.

I love the phone and I think the network is the issue here ...

So I checked out the evo 3d today...

I went in to check out the evo 3d at sprint and I was actually very surprised on how snappy and fast it was. Overall it was a great device and honestly I was about to get it. Though simply put I can't see myself without my nexus s. I had both the phones side by side and I kept looking from sense 3.0 to my nexus running cyanogen with gb launcher and really there was no contest there. Some people like sense but for me, seeing them side by side really showed how much superior aosp really is. I also ran a speed test and both phones had the same signal strength, both phones got around 1.2 down, though the evo did have a higher ping. I also checked out the 3d camera as well and I really hated it, gave me a head ache looking at for like 6 seconds. I really did not like the protruding cameras and the gimmicky 3d. As for the build quality it was top notch, compared next to my nexus it felt like it was more expensive than my nexus and the metal accents were nice. But honestly that doesn't matter to me because my black berry storm gen. 1 felt expensive as well but was a POS. Feel and weight of the phone isn't much of a factor to me because IMO I feel more comfortable dropping my nexus on concrete because it is lighter but I bet both of the phones would not last through a high drop. As for the look of the phone it was somewhat attractive but not really. I really enjoy the blacked out nexus with no carrier branding on it and the curve screen makes it really stand out compared to all the other phones. The evo 3d just felt like a brick, I totally loved the sensation's design, i wish htc would have sent sprint the sensation instead. All in all the evo is a great device and I totally think its an awesome phone, but to me owning a nexus s is something else. The whole concept of a nexus phone is just very cool, and I do enjoy the fact that I am the only person at my work that owns a nexus. I see like 7 - 10 people owning evos alone and that is quite a lot since apple is such a phenomenon where I live. I think the deciding factor to me was that it really didnt feel that much faster than my nexus and that the whole bootloader situation is really still up in the air. For me, I doubt I could last with sense for even a day. On a side note I'm totally excited its friday, but MIUI comes out with a new update, giggy, giggy
That was a really long post lol, I really was really thinking about the pros and cons of each phone for past month and hopefully it helps someone out.

I completely agree with everything you said. I love my nexus and could never give it up.
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nice round up on both devices

Yeah I love my nexus too.
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I just walked out of the sprint store. Played with the 3D for about a half hour. Very nice phone. But definitely gonna have issues. Battery life will be awful. And the screen is just weird to me. Takes my eyes a few seconds to adjust on 3D videos. Ill keep my nexus.
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The qhd display really did look nice, but it simply did not come close to the nexus's s-amoled with voodoo settings. Though some people do complain over the over saturation and the "un-natural" colors of the amoled displays but to each their own.

Looks real nice, its nexus for me from now on....plus I got my tablet for for the heavy duty android stuff
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it made my eyes hurt and my brain numb

I got my nexus to escape this crazy specs race. Here the new sweetheart is galaxy s2, and despite that is a great device, i'm not feel fine in get it, really like my nexus and whole nexus idea and probably will change it only for the new one, when it arrives, and it's good to be satisfeid with a device for almost a year! =oP

I have the EVO 3D on a spare line to give it a try... I want to like it, cause I've had really good luck with HTC products.
BUT, there's no WOW factor. If the 3D doesn't mess with your head, it's a cool little niche... but that's it.
The camera can't hold a candle to the NS4G, and obviously the screen lacks the vibrant colors that we have in the NS4G.
The only thing that I give a slight nod to on it, is the crispness of the fonts... which makes me wonder if LCD Density changer can be used on the NS4G???
The EVO will be going back to Sprint, so I can have the line open for the SGS2 that is supposed to be coming in 3rd quarter.

As someone who switched from using CM 7 (AOSP) on the Evo 4G to the Evo 3D, I can agree with pretty much everything you've said, except the part about the 3D. I know it's a gimmick, but taking artsy 3D pictures and video is just so goddamn awesome. I guess I'll probably get over it pretty quickly.
As for the phone itself, what amazes me is that it seems to equal or surpass my former CM 7 Evo in speed and snappiness while using Sense. Don't get me wrong, Sense is really no good, but it makes me very excited for the future when we get AOSP ROMs on the Evo 3D.
So, of course, part of what really keeps me interested in the device is the promise of AOSP in the future. If I didn't have that hope to cling to, I would probably be a little depressed to be stuck with Sense. It really is quite an amazing device, otherwise.

I completely agree with the op. I used to have the evo..sold it and bought the epic..had that for a while and sold it and now I bought the ns4g for 275 cash..I just can't warrant using my update on the evo 3d for now..the nexus is superior in a lot of aspects IMO. I love the weight or lack thereof the nexus has..beautiful screen, still fast processor and aosp is now my favorite ..I will keep an eye on the 3d forums and see what happens but I may wait for the next nexus phone..assuming sprint gets it right when it comes out
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You can pretty much count on the next nexus hitting sprint first.
ervman1 said:
I completely agree with the op. I used to have the evo..sold it and bought the epic..had that for a while and sold it and now I bought the ns4g for 275 cash..I just can't warrant using my update on the evo 3d for now..the nexus is superior in a lot of aspects IMO. I love the weight or lack thereof the nexus has..beautiful screen, still fast processor and aosp is now my favorite ..I will keep an eye on the 3d forums and see what happens but I may wait for the next nexus phone..assuming sprint gets it right when it comes out
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You can pretty much count on the next nexus hitting sprint first.
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Why? Just wondering....it seems unlikely.
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ok but where else other then on the phone do you get the 3d effect? can you print pics in 3d? are the videos 3d on your pc? obviously a 3d tv with those big ass glasses it would be 3d but is that it?
and im asking seriously here not just being an ass lol

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Why? Just wondering....it seems unlikely.
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1. Sprint was going to get release the N1 before canceling. They say they cancelled because it'd compete with the EVO 4G but by guess it was because it would have came out before they could enforce they're upcoming $10 high end data fee.
2. Sprint and Google announce Google Voice integration. Only carrier who's done that.
3. Sprint and Google announce Google Wallet partnershop. Again, only carrier who's so far done it.
4. And of course, the Nexus S 4G.
Sprint doesn't have a history that suggests that they'd get it first (N1 would have came out after, and the NS4G of course got it after) but they're relationship now seems to be superior to any other carier anywhere else in the world. Time will tell but I have a feeling that the Sprint N3 will drop on day one.

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1. Sprint was going to get release the N1 before canceling. They say they cancelled because it'd compete with the EVO 4G but by guess it was because it would have came out before they could enforce they're upcoming $10 high end data fee.
2. Sprint and Google announce Google Voice integration. Only carrier who's done that.
3. Sprint and Google announce Google Wallet partnershop. Again, only carrier who's so far done it.
4. And of course, the Nexus S 4G.
Sprint doesn't have a history that suggests that they'd get it first (N1 would have came out after, and the NS4G of course got it after) but they're relationship now seems to be superior to any other carier anywhere else in the world. Time will tell but I have a feeling that the Sprint N3 will drop on day one.
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Dude I hope you're right, I'd buy it with straight cash $_$

Quis89 said:
Why? Just wondering....it seems unlikely.
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wimax code was also merged with aosp...could be nothing though

I actually ordered the Evo 3D, got it in on Friday. Used it, didn't like the screen, I liked the qHD but the SLCD cannot satisfy me like the AMOLED screen. Fact is when I use my phone I look at the screen and I need to be happy with screen quality over certain specs. I went ahead and returned the Evo 3D and got on Craigslist.. found someone selling the Nexus and offered them 200. They accepted, I picked a brand new still in packaging and the stickers still intact for $200. I owned an Epic but I think this phone is much better in quality over the Epic

EVO 4G to Nexus S 4G

Hi all,
I'm currently using my EVO (with Cyanogenmod) but pondering an upgrade to the Nexus S 4G. Has anyone else made that leap and, if so, what are your thoughts and experiences? Thanks.

I havent looked back. Its super fast, easy to manipulate, love my SGX540, 4"screen size is where its at in my opinion. Also, the thing I really found amazing was the huge difference in the displays but 16m colors should be the minimum. Although I enjoyed my Evo when I had it...for about six months. Ill be sticking with the dev phones from now on. Unless they reach a ridiculous screen size.

I made the jump and pondered for a good month going back too.
Overall i'm glad I did and stuck with it. The NS4G feels really light in the hand coming from the evo which is refreshing. A lot of the weird bugs with parts of the OS stopping working after a few days usage I was finding in CM7 on the evo aren't present on the NS4G.
Battery life outdoes the evo for me, even with heavier usage on the NS4G.
My only two complaints:
* The speakerphone isn't very loud. There is a kernel out there to work on fixing this, but i'm holding out for the OTA to see if it helps
* The wifi signal is much weaker than the evo in my house. Hoping the OTA helps there too.

Yeah I used the EVO since last August than I got the NS4G right around launch day.
I don't think I could have a non-developer phone any more. You don't have to deal with any carrier garbage you get to make the phone how you want not how someone else wants it.
Also I rooted both phones as soon as I got them and rooting the NS is vary easy. I would say take the jump if you like pure Google and modding your phone.

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Yeah I used the EVO since last August than I got the NS4G right around launch day.
I don't think I could have a non-developer phone any more. You don't have to deal with any carrier garbage you get to make the phone how you want not how someone else wants it.
Also I rooted both phones as soon as I got them and rooting the NS is vary easy. I would say take the jump if you like pure Google and modding your phone.
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I loved my Evo very much.... or at least I thought I did until I met my sexy nexy. I have not missed my Evo for one instant. Srsly.

Only thing I miss is the kickstand every now and then.
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I have had two nexus phones and each have had problems. I keep switching back to the Evo with good reason. Just sold my second Nexus on ebay. Love the size and weight of the nexus but that's about it. Radio and battery problems galore.

I have only had mine for about 4 days but will give you some comparisons since the evo is still fresh in my mind.
Size: NS is much easier to hold. especially when trying to hold in one handed in portrait. The weight and curves make it feel like it fits in your hand. I always had a problem with the weight and sharp angle of the back wearing into my pinky as that is the finger that would hold all the weight at the bottom in portrait.
Landscape is easier to hold as well... but still don't try to take pictures one handed.
Screen: Colors are much more saturated. I like this. screen is easier to read during the day and very few fingerprints. However whites are a little on the yellow side (warmer as i like my color palette cooler). In low light the screen is just the right brigtness. My wife does not get bothered as much when i leave it on auto brightness at night. That being said there are jagged edges on lines and borders and text if you read with it close. Most of the time you will not notice though. Blacks are AWESOME. Put a black background with white text
camera: Pictures are much better than the evo. options are highly limited though but work well enough for me. have not tried much with the video camera.
UI: I used cm7 with LP on my evo. I put LP on the NS as well. However after a day or so I took it off. I am running stock and have found no reason to root (except that i miss the notification bar widgets but the 4G one does not work yet anyway).....yet. I feel the stock android works and is kind of what CM was trying to achieve anyway + any bonuses they might have.
wifi and 4G: Both work about the same for me. I have seen the NS get further outside then the EVO on occasion so take that for what you will. But i have also seen drop outs on wifi on the NS for no reason.
Battery: battery seems to be better on the NS. I work nights so that throws off any calibration I can do. Will have a better answer next week.
Other: I traded in my evo and got the NS for 150... then got the 50 bucks back the next day for the price drop. so considering i paid 200 for my evo.. i think trading in was a good deal. (was gonna give it to my daughter but she needs to wait awhile)
feel free to ask if you have any other questions and remember yuo do have 30 days just in case something else comes out that may make you question your decision

After selling my second Nexus recently due to battery life and radio issues, I may be down for some of this:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/15/samsung-galaxy-ii-within-sprint-pictures/

EVO 4G to EVO 3D to NS4G here.
This is day one with the Nexus and other than the piss poor 4G speed and signal issues I love it (hopefully fixed soon)! I hate Sense.
I won't be able to say no to the SGS2 though. That's what I'm holding my upgrade for.
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i dropped the evo because htc sense interferes with bluetooth performance in my new vechicle.
honestly, i only feel that the nexus has a better camera.
i miss sense so much. the widgets were a big deal to me. and beyond that, there were little software tweaks such as the smart dialer which i couldn't believe were not stock android. also, the nexus is abysmal with signal strength and 4g performance. it also just feels cheap and plastic-y.
i dont believe in modding since non of the roms are totally effective with all features working properly. i hope the nexus update will at least make the phone a bit more bearable. otherwise i will wait patiently for the sprint iphone.

I went from a rooted EVO to a NS4G last week after being disappointed with the 3d. Love it. It's a huge upgrade over the 4G. Hell, it's as fast or faster than the dual core 3d in a lot of instances. You won't be disappointed

Thanks
Thanks all around for everyone that gave feedback. The NS4G's price seems unbeatable right now and everyone's feedback makes me feel like I'd be happy with the upgrade.
I use CM7 for the close-to-stock feel, so having an actual clean, stock UI would make me happy. The main gripes people mentioned wouldn't be features I'd care enough to miss (kickstand, for instance).
Thanks again to all and keep the feedback coming.

I am looking at getting the Nexus-S and i have the EVO-3D, and not so happy with it, with the beastly spec's the 3VO is not near as fast and smooth as I expected.
My Wife has the N-S 4G, and I play with it all the time, I dare say it is faster/smoother than my EVO-3D. Plus the screen is beautiful, and 4" is the perfect size, plus it feels great in the hand, very lightweight and fits in pockets easily.
If coming from the EVO 4G, I highly recommend the Nexus-S 4G.
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sdc177 said:
EVO 4G to EVO 3D to NS4G here.
This is day one with the Nexus and other than the piss poor 4G speed and signal issues I love it (hopefully fixed soon)! I hate Sense.
I won't be able to say no to the SGS2 though. That's what I'm holding my upgrade for.
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Wait a little longer for the next Nexus, don't get Galaxy S2, the Nexus-Prime, also made by Samsung with a brand new screen technology a HiDef AMOLED+. And will be the first phone on the market running Android 4.0. Plus higher memory and higher RAM than the Galaxy S2 .
Supposed to release by November.
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Zorachus said:
Wait a little longer for the next Nexus, don't get Galaxy S2, the Nexus-Prime, also made by Samsung with a brand new screen technology a HiDef AMOLED+. And will be the first phone on the market running Android 4.0. Plus higher memory and higher RAM than the Galaxy S2 .
Supposed to release by November.
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I really doubt that.
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sdc177 said:
I really doubt that.
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What do you doubt, everything he said is correct, at least according to engadget and pocketnow
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mreniigma said:
i dropped the evo because htc sense interferes with bluetooth performance in my new vechicle.
honestly, i only feel that the nexus has a better camera.
i miss sense so much. the widgets were a big deal to me. and beyond that, there were little software tweaks such as the smart dialer which i couldn't believe were not stock android. also, the nexus is abysmal with signal strength and 4g performance. it also just feels cheap and plastic-y.
i dont believe in modding since non of the roms are totally effective with all features working properly. i hope the nexus update will at least make the phone a bit more bearable. otherwise i will wait patiently for the sprint iphone.
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launcher pro has sense-like widgets so you could use that

Gotta say I agree with most of what was said here. I went from an Evo to a NS4G to an Evo 3D, and I'm really at the point where I'm kicking myself now in some ways. The biggest reason I gave my wife the NS4G and took the Evo 3D on an upgrade was the signal issues. Two days later, the update was announced. I was really starting to kick myself at that point, and then it got delayed. I'm hoping the update comes out before my 30 days are up, so I can see the improvements first hand. If not, I'm gonna have to pick up a Photon 4G. I'm honestly not impressed with the Evo 3D. My wife's Nexus feels faster, to tell the truth. Not to mention, I LOVE the feel of the Nexus in my hand. 4.3 inch screen just feels too big. It's uncomfortable. If the Nexus' signal issue get sorted out, I'd say it's my favorite phone, period. But I just can't live with those kinds of signal problems. My wife can.

Same here sort of. Had an Evo 4G, was fine, great when i was running Cyanogenmod. Then i upgraded to an Evo 3D and its great and all, but i really really want aosp, and quicker updates.
so.... i bought a Nexus S 4g which should arrive tomorrow. Anxious to see how it is. I'll reply with my thoughts after i receive it. I have a feeling I'll be selling my evo 3d... we'll see.