What's the first thought that went through your head, not a series, just the first thing upon holding it in your hand.
mine was 'HOLY **** THAT'S HUGE!'
Same here. It's a BIG phone. Almost too big.
Ditto. The sheer size of it was what shocked me. The screen size alone is the same size as my whole Hero.
I wasnt shocked due to the fact that i had an HD2 for a while....its pretty much the same dimensions. I was more impressed with Android (my 1st Android device ).
My only gripe is that, where i rest my ear while on the phone is uncomfortable,....trying to figure a solution to it now.
Yeah, I like a smart PHONE, the operative word being phone. I love extra capabilities, but in the end it is a phone. The Hero fits nicely on my hip (with the seidio case and holster). The EVO may feel huge on my hip. It's more like a multi-function device. Hoever, the sheer power of it may make me consider upgrading at some point.
I tell you this. This phone is stretching my pockets.
Are many of you oompa loompas? It's not that much bigger than the Iphone. Taller but not that much wider.
ya seriously its really not that big..its the same height as my nexus one and quarter inch wider fits perfectly in my pocket
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Are many of you oompa loompas? It's not that much bigger than the Iphone. Taller but not that much wider.
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No, are you a giant? For my personal taste even the iPhone is a little big. So saying it's not much bigger than the iPhone doesn't change my opinion.
It fits just fine in my jean pocket also. After seeing the seido innocase + belt clip on a evo at BB when I got mine I had to get it. On my belt it really wasnt that much more then my current HTC Hermes that I've had before.
I was concerned about the size of the phone also but its all good now..The only issue i have really is the width of the phone sometimes makes it difficult for one hand operation. Man I love this screen! I couldn't see myself going any bigger screen wise though.
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Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
is that 7" in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?
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Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Too big, man. The Athena is significantly smaller.
it is not a PDA-Phone
it is an UMPC
7" Is just way to big
No weeping here they can keep it.
That is the HTC Shift. it has been well known for quite a while there are even much better pictures than that available. Areas of contention:
-Resolution was reported to be better specked than on your link
-Unconfirmed if it will run WM6, seems unlikely HTC would license 2 O/S for one device, ie costs to them and than users.
Looks very interesting. However, I don't find it appealing to me the same as way Athena. Portability factor is not as attractive as Athena. I prefer no keyboard (I like a tablet) and size no bigger than Athena. I like the storage capacity though. I don't know if running Vista on it would be sluggish and taxing on the battery, so let's wait and see. I wonder how easy it is for the phone to respond to incoming calls under Vista.
yea dude...thats the htc shift...that piece of crap is tooo darn big for a pocket...
Is this not like the cPC thing that flopped on a major level? With a dual boot between standard Windows and Mobile Windows?
Although, the fingerprint thing would be interesting for me with some of the software I'm using, but not for a major price increase........
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Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Who says I can't have both? I have two pockets. Just have to make one pocket bigger than the other. ;-)
I'm trying to decide if I want to order one or not. My deciding factor was the built in GPS. Since I see that the Shift may have built in GPS, it's becoming more attractive to me. Just soooo damn big. 7" screen. I have a PVR that has a 7" screen with a 100gig HD and it won't fit into my pocket. Just too big. I leave it in my back pack. I don't want to carry my back pack just because my new phone is too big. Still deciding.
Carrying the Athena? (let alone anything bigger)
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?
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With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?
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My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?
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My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?
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He hasn't responded to PMs and his email is hidden. Hopefully he'll check back some day and notice we're looking for him! For me, this might be the best approach. I really like the stock case (know I'm a minority there), but it does work for me. For example, sits flat for tabletop typing, EZ in/out of case to use it in tablet mode, keyboard pops right into place while still in the case, etc... EXCEPT for the missing belt clip.!!
I have absolutely no issue in carrying the unit around. This is what I have. I can either bring the keyboard with me or leave it behind.
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=14690&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360
The device is well protected. Not a single scratch until now. The unit still look brand new.
Has anyone actually bought the HD2 and thought its too big. The size is the only thing putting me off taking the plunge, havent seen one in the flesh.
Also has anyone bought their HD2 from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk thinking of getting one on a 12 month contract from them
it is only a little bit wider and longer than the iPhone. due to its thickness, it is very pocketable and you wounldnt have noticed that it is inside your pocket.
It's less bulk in my pocket than my old Nokia 5800.
Yeah, it's really thin. So, as mentioned above, you won't feel it in your pocket
It also fits very well into my palm. I'd say the size is perfect
It's a bit larger then iPhone. First impression is 'it's huge !'. But I think the form is just OK.
I think HTC made a good job considering the size of the screen, basically you are holding just the screen.
I've got smallish hands (yes, I'm a girl lol) and have no problems holding the phone or using the screen (despite my very long nails)
It IS big, but it is also thin so in your pocket it isn't that big of a problem...
I have to admit I sometimes have a problem operating it with one hand, I just can't easily reach some parts (I have small hands) but you also get used so quickly hehe.
Had the Omnia Qwerty (B7610) before this and already thought it was pretty big. Now holding it after holding the HD2 it feels very small!
The size is fine, the screen is just so nice for browsing, video, etc. Really liking it so far!
for daily use I like my Topaz more.. it depends on your use. if you like to browse the net and watch movies the hd2 is amazing. for texting I like the size (and screen) on the Topaz better. one thing is for sure, the design and feel of the hd2 is so smooth that the bigger size is very well presented.
Size hasn't been an issue at all with this phone. Well to be fair it actually has - it's made it an issue going back to the teeny screen on my Touch Pro - how did I ever manage? It also fits so well in the pocket it's not funny. No more "is that a slider phone in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?"
As for mobilefaildirect... there are several threads about them. Truly disgusting customer service, likes about stock and delivery... unless the price is significantly better than elsewhere, avoid avoid avoid.
I bought mine from mobilephonesdirect. Tbh everything went fine - but if it hadn't they seem pretty useless for customer service. During my purchase and delivery I made several attempts to contact them, and I only got an email which basically said: "I don't know". If there is an alternative for the same price - take it.
Too big has 2 dimensions:
1) In the hand: unless you have quite small hands (smaller women?), not a problem. It sits in the hand perfectly.
2) In the pocket: it's great for shirt pockets, because of the thinness. Jeans pockets not so much, bit tight to fish them out of there
Perhaps the next model they could slim down the bezel even futher. Could easily shave 1cm off the height.
I am very comfortable with the size. Suprisingly I find it more pocketable than my TouchPro2 ( as it is bulkier though length width wise is smaller)
I have a Blackstone and I'm thinking about getting a Leo but a friend of mine has one and the one time I saw it I remember thinking it was way too big. Is the bigger screen useful at all? Does the phone feel too big when you're holding it in one hand and trying to click stuff or send a text? Does it feel too big in your pocket or is it fine?
Before I had the Blackstone I had a Diamond so I'm used to smaller/slim phones. Just want to make sure the Leo is something I like before I buy one, so if anyone can help answer these questions I'd appreciate it.
Only 4" and a bit smaller would have been better, but it's not too big.
In fact, it's more convenient to carry around in the pocket than the HD, because it's less bulky.
Had a Touch HD before and think the HD2 feels much better in the pocket. It's actually not that much longer and wider, but quite a lot thinner ...
the bigger screen the better. Size of the phone is good, but must not be much bigger. then i wouldnt call it a "phone" anymore.
no, i dont think so! but i guess this is a really personal decision! Just go to a store and hold i in your hand, and then you can decide yourself!
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Before I had the Blackstone I had a Diamond so I'm used to smaller/slim phones. Just want to make sure the Leo is something I like before I buy one, so if anyone can help answer these questions I'd appreciate it.
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You are basically following in my footsteps (Diamond, HD and .....eventually HD2) or should I say maybe I would like to follow in yours. Well depending on your choice.
I just got my HD and I'm happy but if I had a choice right now. No doubt it would be the HD2 as the width is hardly noticiable between the HD and the HD2. Well it least when I measured up the HD with a dummy HD2.
The HUGE screen is one of the reason I love this phone so much.
My first impression when I unboxed my phone was, " Damn! The screen is so damn big!"
But, it is not bulky, thinner than many other phone in fact. I feel much more comfortable having HD2 in my pocket than my previous N95.
I'm an asian with no large hands but i can handle the phone with one hand easily.
Nope, I think it's probably at the limit of how big you would want a phone to be though. Any larger that the HD2 and I think it might end up being too cumbersome.
Size does matter but it's not a problem with the HD2
I owned the HD and I never had a problem with the size. Before buying the HD2 I though size would be a problem nevertheless I put a deposit down to ensure I got mine from the initial shipment. I’m not disappointed. I think the size is perfect. The thinness more than overcompensates for the slightly increased width and height.
Coming from using a Diamond before, this is freckin' massive and considerably heavier than my diamond. However it's not bad at all, feels so well constucted and a pleasure to use.
I don't think of my HD2 as a phone anymore, it's like some awesome mini tablet PC that just happens to have phone capabilities .
As said above, thanks to it being so thin it's perfect. The big screen is so amazing and I don't think its worse than having my SE P1i in my pocket which was alot thicker but also alot smaller in height and width. So in my opinion the big size is great, and thanks to it being so thin it's perfect even in the pocket.
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yes. no. fine.
I cant think any phone larger than Leo without losing the term phone and entering the netbook territory. On the other hand I am so spoiled by the perfect screen that all others seem like miniatures now!
perfect
when i first saw it i though it was going to be just a bit too big but after a few days it just seemed natural.
now i can't believe how inadequate my girlfriend's diamond is.
it also fits my shirt pocket perfectly - my diamond used to fall out a lot.
too big for one handed use
I am comming from the Touch Pro, which was very hard to use completely without stylus. The HD2 screen is very nice for touch control, but too big for one handed use.
I never had a Touch Pro 2 in my hand unfortunately, so I can not judge if it is still big enough for touch control and small enough for one handed use.
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when i first saw it i though it was going to be just a bit too big but after a few days it just seemed natural.
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Indeed.
It fits into a jeans pocket with ease, even when in a pouch and the big screen is a plus. When I look at my bro's Touch Pro I immediately take my eyes off it, so small are the words
Would agree with the above. I came from the HD and actually the HD2 fits better.... Its thinner so feels less bulky, the screen goes right to the edge of the device which is only slightly wider and taller.
I was really worried about the size, i remember thinking the HD was pretty large so thought the HD2 must be gigantic.
Coming from the HD i have to say the size is def not an issue. (Oh, you'll love the screen!)
Wait a sec, does it work with AT&T 3G in the US (I think 850 band)?
I dont think its too big, i have came from a touch hd and with a rubber case on its basicly the same size, i absolutely love the hd2 I have customized it to fit my every need and i havent had 1 problem with it so far....
(my previous phones, xda orbit, xda orbit 2, iphone, touch hd and now the hd2)
screen size very nice, does not feel too big when holding in hand thanks to the thin design, and be careful with tight pockets.
Do you find that it is too big? I know that seems like a silly question... but I thought I would ask before I get mine.
I haven't had a chance to hold one, or an HD2 either (similar size)... I've only held a demo HD2 that was attached to those pull cords and it was hard to tell with it attached to that thing..
How does it fit in the pocket / hand?
For me, the size is great. It actually fits better in my pocket than the Verizon Droid, which was also given to IO attendees. Sure it's not as compact as the Hero but the quality of the screen and size more than makes up for extra space it takes up in my pocket. It fit in my work pants and jeans just fine, I wouldn't go back to a smaller screen.
wait, so I/O attendees got the verizon droid (incredible or original?) *and* the EVO, or did they get to choose or something?
Thanks for the feedback about the size... that confirms what I have been thinking... I cant wait till i get mine....
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wait, so I/O attendees got the verizon droid (incredible or original?) *and* the EVO, or did they get to choose or something?
Thanks for the feedback about the size... that confirms what I have been thinking... I cant wait till i get mine....
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They got the EVO only.
The size is perfect for me. At first I was like "ZOMG HUGE!" but that is just in comparison to the tiny Hero. It fits perfectly in my hand, but I haven't tried putting it in my pocket for more than 2 minutes. I really want a belt clip for this baby. Hopefully Seidio is going to send me one to demo.
IO attendees got the Motorola Droids sent to them before the conference so they can "get familiar" with Android, at the conference we got the Evo. Folks outside the US got Nexus Ones instead of the Droid.
I got a Moto Droid and a Sprint Hero for sale if anyone is interested.
The size of the Evo is excellent. I love it. It feels good in the hand and it's not bulky like the Droid either. It's really nice.
The size is great for me. I keep hearing some people say they have heard about it being small for some people's hands...blah blah blah...
When I hear somebody else say they heard someone else complained about something, I tend to not believe it.
I have heard no one who has touched the phone (I had an HD2 before and have an EVO from Google I/O now) do anything but LOVE it.
Bonnie from CNET did say she thought the HD2 was a little too big for her to use one handed. Of course she is about 4 foot 2 with tiny hands. And she still gave it an awesome review. And used it two handed I assume.
My hands aren't tiny, but they aren't massive either (I'd say slightly larger than average). And in my hand it just fits. I was worried about putting it to my face, but I have had 0 issues wiht it in actual use.
As for my pocket...prior to the Evo I was a clip/puch Nazi. I would never consider buying a phone that didn't fit in my Mogul case. Now I'll never buy another phone that doesn't fit in my pocket as well as this one.
It's so thing that my jeasn and khakis never feel like they're crushing it!!
I DO advise a screen protector (Ghost armor on mine currently!) to keep keys and face oil away!
Works great in one hand but if you are using your thumb and holding the phone at the bottom and you need to click something at the very top you need to reposition your hand. Not a big issue but can be a pain when driving.
This phone and the HD2 are the perfect size, the "sweet spot" in mobile devices. Any bigger no good, any smaller no good.
They say "size does matter", it sure does!!
bow chicka wow wow.
I took my iPod touch to a T-Mo store to compare it to an HD2 to get a feel for the EVO's size... Frankly I expected it to be larger, and the HD2 also seemed larger to me when I had previously held it w/o having the iPod to compare it to. Once I had the iPod touch right there next to it I realized how small the difference is... With a silicon sleeve around the iPod it ends up being just as wide as the HD2, down to the millimeter, and it's like maybe half an inch shorter (length-wise)...
For any guy who doesn't wear tight pants I don't think the size makes any difference whatsoever, you just have a larger/more readable screen. For the ladies it might make more of a difference if they tend to slip their phone in back pockets or w/e (as my sister does) rather than a purse. The way I see it, if you're gonna have a touchscreen phone w/o a physical keyboard, then you might as well have as large a screen as possible while still remaining comfortable.
At this point I'm sold, I don't think I'd want anything w/a smaller screen unless it has a nice physical keyboard w/a perfect layout (something that seems to elude manufacturers all too easily).
I really couldn't be happier with my EVO(upgrading from a G1 and T-Mobile's less than impressive data network), but it does have it's flaws. None of which would ever keep me from buying one. Probably my biggest complaint is the styling of the rear camera. It just sticks out way too far in my opinion. It wouldn't be so bad if the actual lens cover was recessed a bit more. I really didnt want thicken the phone up with a plastic or sillicone case. I'm wondering if adding something to the bezel like a washer of some sort, would obstruct the camera when taking video or pictures. Just something I thought I'd throw out there.
that's what she said.
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I'm wondering if adding something to the bezel like a washer of some sort,
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Yeah that sounds good!....LOL..what?
There isn't much to say about it to be honest. This is how the Evo was designed and I doubt HTC will make any changes to future models. You know it sticks out like this so best thing you can do is either place it on a delicate surface or just have it with the kickstand on.
The camera on the HTC/Google Nexus One sticks out the same way. On both phones, the speakerphone speaker is right next to the camera lens. My theory for the Nexus One was that they did this intentionally so that the camera bezel would also serve as a way to elevate the speaker a little bit off the desktop to keep it from being muffled sounding when laid directly on the desk. Seems to be same with the EVO.
The only other reason would be they just couldn't get the optics on such a big lens into any thinner a space and rather than thicken the whole phone they just let it stick out. THIN IS IN these days.
I agree, after my G1, thin is a welcomed feature. I guess nothing's perfect. I'm just glad I never got an iPhone.
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I agree, after my G1, thin is a welcomed feature. I guess nothing's perfect. I'm just glad I never got an iPhone.
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I've got every model of the iPhone, including the iP4 -it's an impressive piece of hardware, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, really. There's just something about it that's so crisp and easy on the eyes. I still prefer the bigger screens of the N1 and EVO. A 4" iPhone screen would probably be the best thing you could own. Apple screwed up, in my opinion, sticking with the 3.5" screen
re: thin, the new iPhone is too thin for my big hands. It's not comfortable to hold because of its thin form factor with squared edges.
The camera on it takes amazing pictures, right off the camera, they look much better color-wise than the EVO's, but I imagine you could tweak the EVO's pics with photoshop or the like. You have to give Apple credit for getting such a nice camera into such a thin package - at least there's no nipple on the back of the phone.
Software-wise, Android just blows away the iPhone OS in every way. No comparison. Putting up with a nipple on the back of the phone is a small price to pay for all the Android goodness that comes with the EVO and it's like.
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Software-wise, Android just blows away the iPhone OS in every way. No comparison. Putting up with a nipple on the back of the phone is a small price to pay for all the Android goodness that comes with the EVO and it's like.
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well said. the iPhone is an amazing piece of hardware. but the screen is too small (although i didn't think so before I owned the EVO). and the android o/s does blow it out of the water, at least for us power users/phone dorks. iOS is still better for noobs, and probably always will be.
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that's what she said.
(sorry)
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LMAO!
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well said. the iPhone is an amazing piece of hardware. but the screen is too small (although i didn't think so before I owned the EVO). and the android o/s does blow it out of the water, at least for us power users/phone dorks. iOS is still better for noobs, and probably always will be.
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EXACTLY correct, on all points.