Your Athena is obsolete already :( - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.

is that 7" in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?

Pyrofer said:
Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Too big, man. The Athena is significantly smaller.

it is not a PDA-Phone
it is an UMPC

7" Is just way to big
No weeping here they can keep it.

That is the HTC Shift. it has been well known for quite a while there are even much better pictures than that available. Areas of contention:
-Resolution was reported to be better specked than on your link
-Unconfirmed if it will run WM6, seems unlikely HTC would license 2 O/S for one device, ie costs to them and than users.

Looks very interesting. However, I don't find it appealing to me the same as way Athena. Portability factor is not as attractive as Athena. I prefer no keyboard (I like a tablet) and size no bigger than Athena. I like the storage capacity though. I don't know if running Vista on it would be sluggish and taxing on the battery, so let's wait and see. I wonder how easy it is for the phone to respond to incoming calls under Vista.

yea dude...thats the htc shift...that piece of crap is tooo darn big for a pocket...

Is this not like the cPC thing that flopped on a major level? With a dual boot between standard Windows and Mobile Windows?
Although, the fingerprint thing would be interesting for me with some of the software I'm using, but not for a major price increase........

Pyrofer said:
Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Who says I can't have both? I have two pockets. Just have to make one pocket bigger than the other. ;-)
I'm trying to decide if I want to order one or not. My deciding factor was the built in GPS. Since I see that the Shift may have built in GPS, it's becoming more attractive to me. Just soooo damn big. 7" screen. I have a PVR that has a 7" screen with a 100gig HD and it won't fit into my pocket. Just too big. I leave it in my back pack. I don't want to carry my back pack just because my new phone is too big. Still deciding.

Carrying the Athena? (let alone anything bigger)
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?

wgary said:
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?
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My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?

Abram said:
My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?
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He hasn't responded to PMs and his email is hidden. Hopefully he'll check back some day and notice we're looking for him! For me, this might be the best approach. I really like the stock case (know I'm a minority there), but it does work for me. For example, sits flat for tabletop typing, EZ in/out of case to use it in tablet mode, keyboard pops right into place while still in the case, etc... EXCEPT for the missing belt clip.!!

I have absolutely no issue in carrying the unit around. This is what I have. I can either bring the keyboard with me or leave it behind.
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=14690&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360
The device is well protected. Not a single scratch until now. The unit still look brand new.

Related

Sports (Running/ Jogging) holder/ armband for TyTn II?

Does anyone know of a armband strap with holder for the TyTn II? Like the ipod ones, to keep it secure while running?
I know it's probably not the best idea for a device like the Kaiser, but just a thought. I can't find them when searching on ebay.
Thanks
check out www.tunebelt.com
kaiser/tilt fits just fine.
Seems perfect, thanks. Looks like the iPod Video one would fit fine, but there might be room for movement. Was thinking that maybe the iPod Mini one would squeeze the kaiser in.
Would you happen to know which is best? My bet is on the iPod Video
In my opinion, it's better to use a small backpack to carry your Kaiser when running. Put some other soft stuff in there and it's safe from impacts and sweat . That way you can also carry your wallet, money, small towel, whatever. It'll not be that heavy as well.
jym04 said:
In my opinion, it's better to use a small backpack to carry your Kaiser when running. Put some other soft stuff in there and it's safe from impacts and sweat . That way you can also carry your wallet, money, small towel, whatever. It'll not be that heavy as well.
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That would be quite uncomfortable to carry around while running, atleast for me. I'm a cross country/track runner and even wearing a watch bothers me sometimes. Armbands are great for running and thats the way to go.
Anyone tried to send an email to tunebelt.com/ asking the best case fot Kaiser dimensions?
Hi,
Using the Arm Strap from Krusell:
http://www.krusell.se/productMulti.php?productID=2575&category=48
allows use any of the Multidapt options.
/Mads
^ I don't know if I feel comfortable gluing something to my baby.
hi
just got my tunebelt AB82.. seems they sell this "new" version AB82, cos AB8 is no longer available..
anyway, the product itself is okay but since it mainly supposed for iPod the connection openings don't fit exactly the Tytn2 connector output... so u have to do some modding and cut a lil'bit
except that, the product seems great... we'll see how it fits during long runs...

Tips: How to make Athena really portable

The issue of Athena's size has been raised on many threads, and I had always said that size is a non-issue for me. I would like HTC (if they are reading this) to keep the 5 inch screen size in future models as realVGA is only meaningful on screen of this size. The question is how do we carry this? Some has said that it is only possible with a backpack, which I had disagreed.
I had distinquished betweeb devices which are travel friendly (this includes SHIFT, eee PC, etc) that cannot be with you 24/7 from those which are "body portable", meaning we can have the device on our body without feeling it. I believe that I had achieved "body portability" with Athena.
This is a photo showing how I'm doing it. I post this in order to also help people who are struggling with the size issue, and hopefully it helps us to enjoy the device as much as I do.
Cheers.
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I think you would agree that on the left photos, nobody would notice that I'm using the belt pouch. Ive shown a variety of scenarios, from very formal ones where a business suit is worn, to semi formal ones where only a business shirt is worn, to very casual ones.
When I'm at home, I sometimes don't wear a shirt. But I never take the belt pouch off even in my house. It is comfortable.
athena replaces my laptop 4 days a week
The athena fits well in my jeans or slacks. A bit heavy with the stock leather pouch and keyboard but it's fine once you get used to it. I'm a heavy user of the athena because it replaces my laptop whenever I'm in the office. The built in word and excel though bare compared to the desktop versions are in fact quite handy. I don't mind the bareness. I just transfer the files for reformatting when needed. The 5 inch screen is a sight for sore eys compared to using my atom. With real VGA at 128 dpi installed I can view my files with ease(20/20 vision).
Though battery is an issue, I just plug it whenever wifi is on and unplug it when I'm done.
The athena is a device definitely not for everyone. Just those serious enough to maximize it's power, patient and brave enough to experiment with different softwares to make it more powerful. It took me a week to find the right combination of applications to install and the system of manually installing them. I'm now reaping the benefits of all my experimentation. I now bring my laptop only if necessary which is around twice a week as opposed to 6 days a week.
Portability is not the issue. The advantages for me, outweighs the size factor.
eaglesteve said:
The issue of Athena's size has been raised on many threads, and I had always said that size is a non-issue for me. I would like HTC (if they are reading this) to keep the 5 inch screen size in future models as realVGA is only meaningful on screen of this size. The question is how do we carry this? Some has said that it is only possible with a backpack, which I had disagreed.
I had distinquished betweeb devices which are travel friendly (this includes SHIFT, eee PC, etc) that cannot be with you 24/7 from those which are "body portable", meaning we can have the device on our body without feeling it. I believe that I had achieved "body portability" with Athena.
This is a photo showing how I'm doing it. I post this in order to also help people who are struggling with the size issue, and hopefully it helps us to enjoy the device as much as I do.
Cheers.
I think you would agree that on the left photos, nobody would notice that I'm using the belt pouch. Ive shown a variety of scenarios, from very formal ones where a business suit is worn, to semi formal ones where only a business shirt is worn, to very casual ones.
When I'm at home, I sometimes don't wear a shirt. But I never take the belt pouch off even in my house. It is comfortable.
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This goes from the sublime to the ridiculous!
If only i had known I could have put it in a pocket all my problems would be solved ............madness!
The shirt pocket looks stuffed and stretched and on a sweaty day would be a heavy nightmare
The jacket you wouldnt see it but it would still be there weighing you down
The holster just looks gay!
Why not just get a bigger pocket for a EEE or SHIFT or a ****ing huge one for a DESKTOP
Or strap an EEE or Shift to your waist
If you dont mind the weight you coould carry a brick with you all day
Your attempts to show how portable this phone/pda is and the fact that it has a specific weight and dimensions is hilarious
For my next trick see how i turn a portable TV into a wristwatch!
You are a nutter dude.......priceless
Perhaps a few shots of you in your speedos with the Athena down the front should be next!
honestly i have to show some people at work this tomorrow
spacecat said:
This goes from the sublime to the ridiculous!
If only i had known I could have put it in a pocket all my problems would be solved ............madness!
The shirt pocket looks stuffed and stretched and on a sweaty day would be a heavy nightmare
The jacket you wouldnt see it but it would still be there weighing you down
The holster just looks gay!
Why not just get a bigger pocket for a EEE or SHIFT or a ****ing huge one for a DESKTOP
Or strap an EEE or Shift to your waist
If you dont mind the weight you coould carry a brick with you all day
Your attempts to show how portable this phone/pda is and the fact that it has a specific weight and dimensions is hilarious
For my next trick see how i turn a portable TV into a wristwatch!
You are a nutter dude.......priceless
Perhaps a few shots of you in your speedos with the Athena down the front should be next!
honestly i have to show some people at work this tomorrow
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I fully expect such stupid comments to come from Spacecat. He has nothing but ****s in his brain, he talks ****s, breath ****s, eat ****s.. He made the most stupid move of changing to PC eee and seeks to assure himself that he has made the smartest move on earth by trying (very unsuccessfully)
to get people to agree with him that eee's portability is the same as Athena's. Is he going to repeat all the bull**** about why he thinks viewty and eee is the best choice in his next post once again?
newuser888 said:
I fully expect such stupid comments to come from Spacecat. He has nothing but ****s in his brain, he talks ****s, breath ****s, eat ****s.. He made the most stupid move of changing to PC eee and seeks to assure himself that he has made the smartest move on earth by trying (very unsuccessfully)
to get people to agree with him that eee's portability is the same as Athena's. Is he going to repeat all the bull**** about why he thinks viewty and eee is the best choice in his next post once again?
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Your gay mate if you think putting an Athena in your pocket or a holster MAKES IT SMALLER or your just plain retarded.
Whats stupid about going from WM6 to FULL XP, 5 inch screen to 7 inch screen , video that works etc etc for similar portabilty and then carrying a phone that out performs your precious turd in so many areas.
The Athena has barely sold, how many people do you know who has one? apart from those here. The reason being because it is Neither ONE thing or another Its a ****ty phone and a ****ty laptop combined
Your a fanboy, and you blew your money on a poorly implemented device GET OVER IT!
spacecat said:
Your gay mate if you think putting an Athena in your pocket or a holster MAKES IT SMALLER or your just plain retarded.
Whats stupid about going from WM6 to FULL XP, 5 inch screen to 7 inch screen , video that works etc etc for similar portabilty and then carrying a phone that out performs your precious turd in so many areas.
The Athena has barely sold, how many people do you know who has one? apart from those here. The reason being because it is Neither ONE thing or another Its a ****ty phone and a ****ty laptop combined
Your a fanboy, and you blew your money on a poorly implemented device GET OVER IT!
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This is just getting ridiculous. I have stood largely in the background watching this develop in a number of threads. Spacecat - I have no difficulty with you being on the forum despite not being an Athena user. But I really don't see the point of wasting everybody's time with your abusive posts and and unbalanced threads - that's really not what xda-devs is about.
I know you're going to flame me for this - but that will rather prove my point, I suspect......
Here spacey kitty kitty kitty. Try this -- http://www.forum.nokia.com/
UMM! It tastes good! Why not give it a try?? Go pee on someone else's shoes for a while. I'm sure there's plenty of people Mr. Macho Man Space Kitty could call gay over on the Nokia Forum! And maybe they really are!
Seriously, to EagleSteve -- Thanks for posting the pics. I'm with you on the 5" screen. Maybe scale down the thickness (think MacBook Air) and weight, better keyboard. Then I'm 100% happy. OK, throw in a faster processor and bigger battery too. Then I'm 150% happy.
I do the pocket thing, which is OK. Haven't found a pouch that I'm really happy with that isn't too small so it's hard to retrieve it easily or else too huge so that it gets in the way. What pouch are you using? I've already bought about 8, I think.
Note that I now use the stock case w/ keyboard. I did have the holder with pocket clip which was OK except it didn't seem stable plus it kept breaking--not the best with an expensive device. Lots of times, I carry it like a planner, but I have a tendency to then walk away from it.
Maybe I'll post a picture where I am carrying it so Space Kitty can say it looks like a purse and get all hyperexcited. You know, EagleSteve, Space Kitty probably printed out your pictures and put them up on his wall. What do you think?
For the abusive *****
Hey space kitty, try to abuse someone else. We do not come here to confirm our beliefs about our athena. We come here to maximize it.
Don't flaunt what you have there. For all we know, you are the one who is gay that's the reason why you kept using that word. Hmmm... I wonder... Eow!!!
Anyway if you don't have an athena or don't appreciate the fact that we love our athena, cut yourself some slack and keep your mouth shut. Your meows are not appreciated here.
A dog might hear you and give you a nice shuddering chase.
wgary said:
Seriously, to EagleSteve -- Thanks for posting the pics. I'm with you on the 5" screen. Maybe scale down the thickness (think MacBook Air) and weight, better keyboard. Then I'm 100% happy. OK, throw in a faster processor and bigger battery too. Then I'm 150% happy.
I do the pocket thing, which is OK. Haven't found a pouch that I'm really happy with that isn't too small so it's hard to retrieve it easily or else too huge so that it gets in the way. What pouch are you using? I've already bought about 8, I think.
Note that I now use the stock case w/ keyboard. I did have the holder with pocket clip which was OK except it didn't seem stable plus it kept breaking--not the best with an expensive device. Lots of times, I carry it like a planner, but I have a tendency to then walk away from it.
Maybe I'll post a picture where I am carrying it so Space Kitty can say it looks like a purse and get all hyperexcited. You know, EagleSteve, Space Kitty probably printed out your pictures and put them up on his wall. What do you think?
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I'm totally with you on the thickness and weight aspect. I hope future models address that. HTC, if you're reading this, please listen to the users here.
As for the pouch, I use a DIY that I made myself, but that was because I couldn't find a suitable one at that time. Now there are options. In fact, You can have it custom made for a very reasonable price of $29.95. Check my posting today under "have you tried this case" in the accessory main thread. edit: here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1838445#post1838445. Because you are the one specifying the internal dimension, I suppose your issue of finding it too tight or too bulky is not there with this product.
I had long ago learned not to take spacey kitty seriously, as he is really impossible to discuss anything with without going crazy.
As you, Yetdy, newuse888 and many others pointed out in more than one ways here as well as in other threads, we're here to share ways to better use this device, not to engage in pissing contest. I'm not a moderator, so I can't stop him from pissing around in the Athena threads. He makes a real fool of himself, but he says he is enjoying it. What can we do? Sigh...
"Concealed Weapon"
Nice pics, eaglesteve. These kind of remind me of an article I saw in Handgun Digest magazine wherein Masaad Ayoob, concealed weapons expert, showed how he could conceal at least half a dozen handguns wearing jeans and a t-shirt. In the proper hands, the Athena can be just as powerful (or dangerous!)
I don't often get sucked into flame wars, but I am also getting sick of spacecat's bs...
Let's all just leave him alone so he'll get bored and go away...
Its Ok freaks this is real entertainment value believe me!
Its like talking to scientologists!
I love how you all convince each other of some of the most dubious merits of a device which is fair enough i guess.
But trying to say its SMALL simply because you can stuff it into a SHIRT POCKET is SELF DELUSION taken to the limits.
If you think my name is stupid I guess:
EAGLEsteve
Yetdy
toyFREAK
adp
newuser888 (what happens when you are no longer a NEW user do you change your name to OLDuser999!)
Are examples of balanced grown up minds!
I am physically capable of carrying a Plasma TV .. Now if i can just balance a DVD player on my head maybe it could be used as a personal MEDIA CENTRE.
Seriously your all ****ing NUTS .. though Eagle is the head NUT!
The best thing about Eagle is that he says he is SO BUSY doing important consultancy work ..travelling everywhere and YET he still finds time to not only post every few minutes but to actually take PICTURES of himself in VARIOUS SNAZZY OUTFITS and post them here as examples of his DELUSIONS ............................utterly priceless
Guys at work are gonna piss themselves when i show them this thread... please keep up the good/MAD work
Wow, Spacecat,
I've never come across anybody as detached from reality as you are. Are you still okay? Your arguments are so absurd, childish, unreasonable, completely lacking in credibilty, and so sadly naive. How could you deny what is obviuosly the case, that Athena is really very easy to carry around? You behave almost like you're demon possessed! Go and see a shrink.
Next, you're going to add me to your long list of nuts. You better get a thick book for that. The rate you're going, everyone on the forum would have to get on your list pretty soon.
Why can't you just say, "I've made my case, and I stand by my viewpoint. I'd respect your own view.". Why do you have to spill poisons on whoever disagree with your very warped view?
We need to move on and go back to our constructive discussion instead of having you charging into the forum ****ting everywhere to everyone on anything that contradict your narrow minded opinion.
wgary said:
Haven't found a pouch that I'm really happy with that isn't too small so it's hard to retrieve it easily or else too huge so that it gets in the way. What pouch are you using? I've already bought about 8, I think.
Note that I now use the stock case w/ keyboard. I did have the holder with pocket clip which was OK except it didn't seem stable plus it kept breaking--not the best with an expensive device. Lots of times, I carry it like a planner,
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Hi wgary,
I think your post deserves a bit more discussion.
Before Athena, I also had carried around fairly large devices in my trousers pocket. These devices include HP Jordana 680 and 690. They were a lot bigger and heavier than Athena. I did find it too heavy as it really pulled my pocket down. Fortunately, Athena is not heavy enough to cause this problem.
Then, just before Athena, I had a Mio 168 and a Nokia Phone. I also wore a belt pouch for my Mio168 since my left troubsers is used for carrrying the phone and the right pocket is for my bunch of keys.
For both belt pouch (for Mio and Athena), I was paying special attention to the ease of slipping in and out of the case one handed because I used them to play golf, when my other hand is needed to push to buggy. Therefore it is important that when you place your order you do not make it a tight fit.
When I placed my order mentioned, I've allowed for 21 mm depth, 90mm wide. This is to be used without keyboard, where the internal dimension is 89mm x16mm. If you carry keyboard and leather case, then you should measure them carefully and add about 2 or 3 mm depending on your preference.
Also, I prefer flap cover with Velcro fasterner. I also like a belt loop rather than clip. A belt loop is more hardy I feel.
I'm not into hard leather. I prefer it to be soft as it is more comfortable to my body, especially when I sit down. Another advantage of soft material is that I sometimes keep it in my pocket when the social condition call for (for example, when I want to tuck in my shirt, and I don't want to be seen having a pouch hanging on my belt).
My present DIY pouch is made of very soft bag lining of an old notebook carrying bag. I always face my screen inward so screen protection was not a worry.
8 pouch are many. You must have spent a little fortune on them. I hope your next purchase will be the right one. Cheers.
You guys should check the SKPad I just got and discuss about in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303364&page=4
at the bottom of the page. After trying MANY a case for the Athena, this is by far the best I've had, and is practically perfect.
HeartOfDarkness said:
You guys should check the SKPad I just got and discuss about in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303364&page=4
at the bottom of the page. After trying MANY a case for the Athena, this is by far the best I've had, and is practically perfect.
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Looks a a very snug fit. Can you slip in and out with one hand? It looks very nice.
Yep, you can, albeit with a little practice, of course (but very little ).
Very snug indeed. As I said, the Athena almost looks small inside it, lol: yesterday, I took it out at a meeting and my colleagues and I chuckled on the fact that they were surprised to see the Athena, which they think is "quite big for a phone", coming out from under my vest that way, since they hadn't had a clue I had it with me. So I guess it IS extremely discreet.
And the screen's protection's practically bulletproof (with two layers of aluminium protections).
HeartOfDarkness said:
Yep, you can, albeit with a little practice, of course (but very little ).
Very snug indeed. As I said, the Athena almost looks small inside it, lol: yesterday, I took it out at a meeting and my colleagues and I chuckled on the fact that they were surprised to see the Athena, which they think is "quite big for a phone", coming out from under my vest that way, since they hadn't had a clue I had it with me. So I guess it IS extremely discreet.
And the screen's protection's practically bulletproof (with two layers of aluminium protections).
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Sounds great!
BTW, since we're on the topic of being discreet, is wearing the bluetooth headset around the neck also concealable? Can the shirt's collar cover it without producing noise to the mic?
Yep, it is concealable, and the collar of the shirt will not cause any disturbance.
But maybe you could ask that same question in the dedicated thread (in the GENERAL accessories section, not the Athena accessories) so I can answer and elaborate on it, and have this info more centralised and readily accessible ? ;-)
Oh happy day, notice that spacecat has been banned. Take a look just below his name on all of his posts now.

EVO users: what do you think of the size?

Do you find that it is too big? I know that seems like a silly question... but I thought I would ask before I get mine.
I haven't had a chance to hold one, or an HD2 either (similar size)... I've only held a demo HD2 that was attached to those pull cords and it was hard to tell with it attached to that thing..
How does it fit in the pocket / hand?
For me, the size is great. It actually fits better in my pocket than the Verizon Droid, which was also given to IO attendees. Sure it's not as compact as the Hero but the quality of the screen and size more than makes up for extra space it takes up in my pocket. It fit in my work pants and jeans just fine, I wouldn't go back to a smaller screen.
wait, so I/O attendees got the verizon droid (incredible or original?) *and* the EVO, or did they get to choose or something?
Thanks for the feedback about the size... that confirms what I have been thinking... I cant wait till i get mine....
wildcard said:
wait, so I/O attendees got the verizon droid (incredible or original?) *and* the EVO, or did they get to choose or something?
Thanks for the feedback about the size... that confirms what I have been thinking... I cant wait till i get mine....
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They got the EVO only.
The size is perfect for me. At first I was like "ZOMG HUGE!" but that is just in comparison to the tiny Hero. It fits perfectly in my hand, but I haven't tried putting it in my pocket for more than 2 minutes. I really want a belt clip for this baby. Hopefully Seidio is going to send me one to demo.
IO attendees got the Motorola Droids sent to them before the conference so they can "get familiar" with Android, at the conference we got the Evo. Folks outside the US got Nexus Ones instead of the Droid.
I got a Moto Droid and a Sprint Hero for sale if anyone is interested.
The size of the Evo is excellent. I love it. It feels good in the hand and it's not bulky like the Droid either. It's really nice.
The size is great for me. I keep hearing some people say they have heard about it being small for some people's hands...blah blah blah...
When I hear somebody else say they heard someone else complained about something, I tend to not believe it.
I have heard no one who has touched the phone (I had an HD2 before and have an EVO from Google I/O now) do anything but LOVE it.
Bonnie from CNET did say she thought the HD2 was a little too big for her to use one handed. Of course she is about 4 foot 2 with tiny hands. And she still gave it an awesome review. And used it two handed I assume.
My hands aren't tiny, but they aren't massive either (I'd say slightly larger than average). And in my hand it just fits. I was worried about putting it to my face, but I have had 0 issues wiht it in actual use.
As for my pocket...prior to the Evo I was a clip/puch Nazi. I would never consider buying a phone that didn't fit in my Mogul case. Now I'll never buy another phone that doesn't fit in my pocket as well as this one.
It's so thing that my jeasn and khakis never feel like they're crushing it!!
I DO advise a screen protector (Ghost armor on mine currently!) to keep keys and face oil away!
Works great in one hand but if you are using your thumb and holding the phone at the bottom and you need to click something at the very top you need to reposition your hand. Not a big issue but can be a pain when driving.
This phone and the HD2 are the perfect size, the "sweet spot" in mobile devices. Any bigger no good, any smaller no good.
They say "size does matter", it sure does!!
bow chicka wow wow.
I took my iPod touch to a T-Mo store to compare it to an HD2 to get a feel for the EVO's size... Frankly I expected it to be larger, and the HD2 also seemed larger to me when I had previously held it w/o having the iPod to compare it to. Once I had the iPod touch right there next to it I realized how small the difference is... With a silicon sleeve around the iPod it ends up being just as wide as the HD2, down to the millimeter, and it's like maybe half an inch shorter (length-wise)...
For any guy who doesn't wear tight pants I don't think the size makes any difference whatsoever, you just have a larger/more readable screen. For the ladies it might make more of a difference if they tend to slip their phone in back pockets or w/e (as my sister does) rather than a purse. The way I see it, if you're gonna have a touchscreen phone w/o a physical keyboard, then you might as well have as large a screen as possible while still remaining comfortable.
At this point I'm sold, I don't think I'd want anything w/a smaller screen unless it has a nice physical keyboard w/a perfect layout (something that seems to elude manufacturers all too easily).

First Thoughts...

What's the first thought that went through your head, not a series, just the first thing upon holding it in your hand.
mine was 'HOLY **** THAT'S HUGE!'
Same here. It's a BIG phone. Almost too big.
Ditto. The sheer size of it was what shocked me. The screen size alone is the same size as my whole Hero.
I wasnt shocked due to the fact that i had an HD2 for a while....its pretty much the same dimensions. I was more impressed with Android (my 1st Android device ).
My only gripe is that, where i rest my ear while on the phone is uncomfortable,....trying to figure a solution to it now.
Yeah, I like a smart PHONE, the operative word being phone. I love extra capabilities, but in the end it is a phone. The Hero fits nicely on my hip (with the seidio case and holster). The EVO may feel huge on my hip. It's more like a multi-function device. Hoever, the sheer power of it may make me consider upgrading at some point.
I tell you this. This phone is stretching my pockets.
Are many of you oompa loompas? It's not that much bigger than the Iphone. Taller but not that much wider.
ya seriously its really not that big..its the same height as my nexus one and quarter inch wider fits perfectly in my pocket
mrmomoman said:
Are many of you oompa loompas? It's not that much bigger than the Iphone. Taller but not that much wider.
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No, are you a giant? For my personal taste even the iPhone is a little big. So saying it's not much bigger than the iPhone doesn't change my opinion.
It fits just fine in my jean pocket also. After seeing the seido innocase + belt clip on a evo at BB when I got mine I had to get it. On my belt it really wasnt that much more then my current HTC Hermes that I've had before.
I was concerned about the size of the phone also but its all good now..The only issue i have really is the width of the phone sometimes makes it difficult for one hand operation. Man I love this screen! I couldn't see myself going any bigger screen wise though.

Uncomfortable to hold for long periods

Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
Vibrate said:
Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
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Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
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Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
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Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
gagan313 said:
Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Thanks very much for that... Really helped.
I just ordered a case that's designed for the HP slate extreme. Cost me $12. Its a stand and cover and should fix the uncomfortable ergonomics. I'll post a review when it gets here tomorrow.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
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Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
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I think I understand where you are coming from from the fingers side... However i dont really think NVIDIA though the case through properly lol....Only for watching movies and drawing etc.. (Hands free sort of thing.... Although I play on it everyday xD)

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