(Looks like noone has posted about this here yet)
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo
Anyone knows what has been fixed and what else has been changed in this ROM?
from what I've got elsewhere on xda, the 2.13 base "feels" slower than the 2.10 base, apparently due to some changes in the touch driver.
Replacing the touch dll's with 2.10 ones seems to fix it.
yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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Care to share the key so we can download it too?
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Care to share the key so we can download it too?
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I second this.
I would also like to try it...
DaveNavy said:
yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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Maybe you could post the ROM on 4shared.com if you don't like sharing your key!?
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I second this.
I would also like to try it...
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+1 from me too! I would also like to try it!
oh you mean give my IMEI number out for everyone to see it?...LOL!!!! NO WAY!!! but perhaps I could upload it to my rapidshare account....Give me a few minutes and I will put up a link.
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oh you mean give my IMEI number out for everyone to see it?...LOL!!!! NO WAY!!! but perhaps I could upload it to my rapidshare account....Give me a few minutes and I will put up a link.
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That will be great thanks!
well I couldn't do rapidshare cause I only have a free account and the file is 206.18 MB so i used this new one instead: here is the Link
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/144394/T-Mobile_HD2_MR_Software_2.13.531.1.exe
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You will need winRAR to extract and build the .exe
I split the .exe into two .rar archives on 4shared so it would be under 200mb so I could upload it, its uploading now, you will have to download both .rar files and right click .rar1 and hit extract and it will automatically extract .rar2 and create a folder with the Official .exe in it.
HERE IS THE LINK GUYS:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/39776826/c46977da/T-Mobile_HD2_MR_Software_21353.html
oh yeah!
they got rid of the texting issue! it no longer takes forever to load the text messages and no longer blacks out the the text you selected to go into the conversation losing your place in the text you are writing! i now 100% love this phone. i do wonder what else they slid in on this update on us though!
update... if you select a text from further back on your conversation it will still jump to that message you selected UNLESS you started typing already then it stays where you are! still a 500% improvement.
There is a new app called "My Account" that pulls up your t-mobile account status. Pretty cool.
I could be wrong, but my WiFi seems to be working a LOT faster after the upgrade. In fact, it does seem like the lag in several apps is gone...
sooo how do i get this rom into my phone!? is it like adding cookies home tab?
I can I know if I can install this one my phone?
My radio version is 2.08.50.08_2
I don't have the tmobile stock ROM, but a custom HyperROM version. Is it safe to install that new software update?
I posted a personal analysis change log in the T-Mobile USA section for the HD2.
I've been running this updated ROM for about 24 hours now.
how the heck do you put it on the phone I have the exe file on My Device and I go through File Explorer and click on it but it says it is not a valid Pocket PC application. What's the deal?
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how the heck do you put it on the phone I have the exe file on My Device and I go through File Explorer and click on it but it says it is not a valid Pocket PC application. What's the deal?
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You run the exe from a pc.
so i figured out that it have to run it from a windows pc, but mine keeps saying rapitool has stopped working when it trys to check the device. What do i do?
Stormfya said:
so i figured out that it have to run it from a windows pc, but mine keeps saying rapitool has stopped working when it trys to check the device. What do i do?
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Are you already connected via activesync on XP or WMDC on Vista/Win7?
yes, I am
thanks for any help you can offer
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Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!
Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!
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can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
giopirolli said:
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
Double post pls discard
babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?
iPhone 3g contract was up and started looking for a new handset, 3Gs? meh.
perhaps if apple had some sexy stuff to say at their conference about a fw update, but no
just some waffle about an iPad or something? lol
so 3 days into my 14 day return time with the HD2 it was locking up, freezing and genraly sluggish.
i guess i was just used to the iphone 'just working' alough saying that, it was jailbroken and 'trying' to act like a normal phone.
yer yer i had all the apps i wanted (via appsync) and boy was the iphone 3g struggleing.
anyways here i am with the hd2, locking up. so i found my way back to an old friend THIS FORUM.
amazed to find that my hd2 had a rom number way below what was out there.
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
tried to flash a htc stock updated rom and it failed
then discovered the HSPL crack, and tried the flash again, YES! it worked this time.
now, humm i dunno. the phone looks the same but feels different, sure all the O2 branding is gone and some features are unlocked but it now feels much better to use.
faster, smoother and more slick.
got tomtom on there and MYplayer watching bbciplayer OVER 3G not locked to wifi use like the iphone.
this things got me interested now i think ill keep it
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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No-one can answer that question yet. All we can do is summise, and most would say yes.
There hasn't been an official release of the WM7 requirements yet, so we can't be 100% sure. There's been a pinksheet, which is a rumoured requirements list, and the HD2 is fine for that (albeit the minimum ROM, not the recommended).
We'll really have to wait and see. The official specs for WM7 can't be that far away.
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iPhone 3g contract was up and started looking for a new handset, 3Gs? meh.
perhaps if apple had some sexy stuff to say at their conference about a fw update, but no
just some waffle about an iPad or something? lol
so 3 days into my 14 day return time with the HD2 it was locking up, freezing and genraly sluggish.
i guess i was just used to the iphone 'just working' alough saying that, it was jailbroken and 'trying' to act like a normal phone.
yer yer i had all the apps i wanted (via appsync) and boy was the iphone 3g struggleing.
anyways here i am with the hd2, locking up. so i found my way back to an old friend THIS FORUM.
amazed to find that my hd2 had a rom number way below what was out there.
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
tried to flash a htc stock updated rom and it failed
then discovered the HSPL crack, and tried the flash again, YES! it worked this time.
now, humm i dunno. the phone looks the same but feels different, sure all the O2 branding is gone and some features are unlocked but it now feels much better to use.
faster, smoother and more slick.
got tomtom on there and MYplayer watching bbciplayer OVER 3G not locked to wifi use like the iphone.
this things got me interested now i think ill keep it
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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I'm the same as you, I had the iphone 3G, and was due an upgrade, but the 3Gs didn't really offer anything new so went fo the HD2. I've had it for a few weeks now, and had a lot of issues, or should I say glitches. Some have just been me not used to a windows phone, and some have been glitches with the phone. However, most of those have now been rectified thanks to the fantastic help on this website, and especially Wacky Banana on the PM's (Many thanks). I am now starting to enjoy the phone, and can see it's fantastic potential. Despite the lack of apps (which I do miss from time to time), I am now starting to think this phone is better than the iphone, and IF WM7 becomes available it will be a very exciting prospect.
Whilst on the topic of WM7, I emailed HTC directly and they assured me that WM7 will be available on the HD2, and will be a free 'upgrade'. They did say not to expect it until the end of the year at the earliest though. Despite this, I have still been informed my some on this forum that WM7 for the HD2 won't happen. So I guess it's a case of wait and see.
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aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
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Could you let me have the link where you downloaded the stock O2 rom i cant find it.
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...Despite the lack of apps (which I do miss from time to time)...
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Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
+1 You wont find emulators like Morphgear on the Marketplace but at least you can install great apps without having to jailbreak etc
Im surprised your O2 HD2 freezes? The only reason Im still on the stock O2 rom (although I might give 1.66 a go) is because I've not had any major issues with it.
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Yes. The same way you installed custom ROM of 6.5.5 (6.6) there will be WM7 ROM on XDA most definitely.
The same way my old Trinity P3600 runs WM 6.5.3 it will be possible to run WM7 on HD2.
I was on the stock o2 rom, and no major issues except for SMS not sending on the second day, and sometimes it would fail to update the weather. Everything is that bit slicker on the newest ROM.
I heard o2 don't bother with firmware updates, I'm not going to wait for nothing so I flashed successfully straight away.
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Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
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Yeah I do, and have found some good ones. I just miss certain apps like ebay app, yell.com app (I know you can go onto these via the internet but the app just made it easier), but one that I miss the most is Sky+ app where I can remotely record on my sky+ box at home. I can do this via text, but is costs money, doing it from the iphone app was free.
It's no big issue, and I am starting to prefer my HD2 to my iphone, just wish you could have the best of both worlds
jimbouk said:
Could you let me have the link where you downloaded the stock O2 rom i cant find it.
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Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
a bit weird considering that the OP (Arthur) has been a member in this forum for 7 years,
romac said:
Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
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beat me to it.
OK heres the big problem i have now....
every now n then i goto my phone and 'slide to unlock'
it asks for my pin, i input said pin but it says its wrong? i know its not.
again SLOWLY, it says 'wrong pin' or words to that effect. NOOOOO
only way out of it is to do a cold boot. (remove the batt)
granted i only tried rom Le2_UK_1.43.206.4 for about 2 days, but never had this happen
untill now im on 1.66?
REALY flustering.
on the few times its happed ive noticed theres a sms or missed call whateing.
perhaps this is triggering the pin error?
ill let you know if it happens without a missed call or sms, but the 5 times its happened
in the last 18 hours its allways been the same.
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a bit weird considering that the OP (Arthur) has been a member in this forum for 7 years,
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whats weird?
i had an xda2 ohh about 7 years back. lol
sky mobile is available for HD2 with remote record. Go to Skys site and download it. Its working fine for me.
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Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
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Many Thanks
The 1.66 fixed afew things and seems a bit quicker but hasnt made the earpiece speaker any better still crackles alot, so i think i'll send it back and try another, 4th time lucky.
Jim Coleman said:
Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
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I like you
snerkler said:
Yeah I do, and have found some good ones. I just miss certain apps like ebay app, yell.com app (I know you can go onto these via the internet but the app just made it easier), but one that I miss the most is Sky+ app where I can remotely record on my sky+ box at home. I can do this via text, but is costs money, doing it from the iphone app was free.
It's no big issue, and I am starting to prefer my HD2 to my iphone, just wish you could have the best of both worlds
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most of these "apps" can easily be made by you to run on your HD2
MS have even given you the facility to do it with 6.5..
widgets, often overlooked, and not perfect, you can turn some net pages in "apps" just like the iphmoan makes you get from the nappystore.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd721906.aspx
but this is more powerful as you can do them yourself..
It's something sorely lacking lately on here, the "DIY" ethics we used to have, but there's other guides..
Maybe we should have a competition for some new widgets..
scaryprowler said:
sky mobile is available for HD2 with remote record. Go to Skys site and download it. Its working fine for me.
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Really, I couldn't find it. I must be losing the plot lol
Is it free to use?
I was in the same boat as the OP. My phone had 1.43 and was 15 mins away from being returned when I decided to give 1.61 (and now 1.66) a go. The later ROMS are without a doubt the ones that the HD2s should have been launched with.
While they're still not 100% perfect, they're infinitely better, smoother and more stable than the 1.43 operator branded ROMs.
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Really, I couldn't find it. I must be losing the plot lol
Is it free to use?
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Yes it is. And it works perfectly.
for anyone on t-mobile uk standard rom there is an upgrade on HTC site
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=902
This is the same as the version that originally shipped with the device?
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This is the same as the version that originally shipped with the device?
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mine is a sim free phone so i could not login to look at the changelog
perhaps if yours is branded tmobile you could do so, and post the changelog here ?
there must be some change or why would they post it dated 15/03/10 ???
amarko5 said:
mine is a sim free phone so i could not login to look at the changelog
perhaps if yours is branded tmobile you could do so, and post the changelog here ?
there must be some change or why would they post it dated 15/03/10 ???
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there is no changelog from htc's site. it's just a small "updated" t-mo uk ROM, still based on the very first 1.43 ROMs. i wont call it an update at all. FYI, this so called update has been made available in xda for a long time now. i've downloaded it and compared the Hash, and they are 100% identical.
omg!
if this is the update i've waited 3 months for then heads are gonna roll!
is it actually the exact same rom as before?
what the hell was the point in it?
cgrec92 said:
omg!
if this is the update i've waited 3 months for then heads are gonna roll!
is it actually the exact same rom as before?
what the hell was the point in it?
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So they could tell all their customers a ROM update was coming?
See, they didn't lie
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there is no changelog from htc's site. it's just a small "updated" t-mo uk ROM, still based on the very first 1.43 ROMs. i wont call it an update at all. FYI, this so called update has been made available in xda for a long time now. i've downloaded it and compared the Hash, and they are 100% identical.
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Ohh I am "SO SORRY" i wasted my time posting something i noticed on The HTC site.
Next time I notice something I won't waste my time posting then
Please don't tell me there are people out there STILL running the original T-Knobile rom???
1.43??? O2 Germany just released 1.72... :S
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there is no changelog from htc's site. it's just a small "updated" t-mo uk ROM, still based on the very first 1.43 ROMs. i wont call it an update at all. FYI, this so called update has been made available in xda for a long time now. i've downloaded it and compared the Hash, and they are 100% identical.
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It's not even an update. Its the exact same version number that I have on my original ROM T-Mobile HD2 - ROM Version:1.43.110.2.
And yes, I still have my original ROM. It works okay for what I do, and want to stick with official ROMs if possible. Maybe in the future if T-Mobile don't give a real update, or I hit serious issues, but for now I'd like to keep my warranty intact. I'm aware I can re-flash it easily back to the original ROM (even more so now that ROM is officially available to download) - however my concern is over times when I get a fault which means I cannot re-flash it.
i'm on the original t-mobile rom and find it suitable. the only real change ive made is to revert back to the windows messaging set up, not htc messages.
how many people on the original rom have had problems with HTC messaging?
The disclaimer says:
* This is a generic software update. Any additional software or settings provided by your mobile operator or company will be lost. If you require this customization, please contact your supplier first before upgrading.
This may 'unlock' t-mobile from their current position and allow them the HTC rom upgrade path.
Has anyone tried this?
constructorx said:
The disclaimer says:
* This is a generic software update. Any additional software or settings provided by your mobile operator or company will be lost. If you require this customization, please contact your supplier first before upgrading.
This may 'unlock' t-mobile from their current position and allow them the HTC rom upgrade path.
Has anyone tried this?
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Interesting point, however I suspect it's a standard disclaimer they put onto their ROM downloads. Would be interesting though for someone to confirm?
Well, someone try and download it using their S/N and try flashing. Worst that happens is it says 'Incorrect Vendor ID'
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Ohh I am "SO SORRY" i wasted my time posting something i noticed on The HTC site.
Next time I notice something I won't waste my time posting then
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i wasnt exactly trying to gun u down mate. i was actually aiming for t-mobile and htc.
rom upgrade INDIA
when is a rom upgrade for indian users coming??????????
ANy Help HEre....
At least we now have an official T-Mobile ROM we can revert to if we ever need to take the phone back.
I know they tend not to bother if you install other ROMs, but nice to have it as a fallback option.
*sigh*
Goldcard here we come... Interesting that on t-mo's own forum thread
they haven't actually announced the availability of this yet (even though they must be able to see their own customers fuming away...)
support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=801038058f61be601258e88860f007fca&messageit.offset=70
(can't post the link, so you'll have to cut and paste..)
I don't even want to think what the reaction on there is going to be once they actually announce it.
Ah, no, they'll mark it as solved, and no-one will be able to post! Good stuff, eh?
I tried it just incase it was generic but that was a a massive waste of time, as far as I can see this rom is identical to the factory version.
ukdaves said:
Goldcard here we come... Interesting that on t-mo's own forum thread
they haven't actually announced the availability of this yet (even though they must be able to see their own customers fuming away...)
support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=801038058f61be601258e88860f007fca&messageit.offset=70
(can't post the link, so you'll have to cut and paste..)
I don't even want to think what the reaction on there is going to be once they actually announce it.
Ah, no, they'll mark it as solved, and no-one will be able to post! Good stuff, eh?
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Don't need a gold card, just install HSPL and away you go!!
After weeks of calling O2 and moaning on and on about the locked old 1.43 rom today I have been told by O2 we WILL finaly have a new rom (i guess 1.72) last day of march!
Finally
We were suppose to have it 2 weeks ago...I wont be holding my breath about this...we will see...
Unbelievable how long it's taken o2 to give people an official upgrade. Thank the lord for xda-devs, eh? HSPL & freedom all the way!
i bet its 1.66 rom o2 are really slacking at the moment....
Any clues where it will be available to download?
Really now so what is this the third or fourth date that we have heard. I will believe it when i see it as they say.
and yes I am pessimistic, especially when it comes to O2 and updates...
Also MidnightDraven it will be on the HTC site or may HTC Pedia, if it gets leaked....
Ahh good. thanks for that.
Lets hope it turns up then.
I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them. I understand the reasons, but they don't help at all. And after all this waiting, chances are that they have only been looking at 1.48 and 1.66....... O2 suck.
It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!
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It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!
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At least they might understand you when you mention "ROM" or "Update" as they thought I wanted a new phone, even after explaining it in an email with links to HTC's ROM updates.
Are O2 usually so bad at releasing ROMs? I have personally never flashed one before, but i've waited, as you all have, ages for an official update.
Yeh they are
got the wrong thread a little...
I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.
Pagnell said:
I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.
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Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.
Kalavere said:
Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.
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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.
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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.
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I think you have been the catalyst in my trying a new ROM, I have HSPL installed now and I am going to have a look around for a ROM to suit me.
Oh and by the way, loving the avatar, Bill is a legend!
any more news on if this just mightbe genuine?
Good luck, t-mobile promissed us the same thing by the end of this month and we got given the original ROM (1.43) probably because they thought , nobody will know it's not an update
I thought sod it so flashed hardspl and then the official HTC rom (1.66), gone from rebooting the thing 5+ times a day to once every 3 days or so (which I can live with)
I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them.
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They already released 1.72 for German O2.
I just got contacted by HTC representative who asked me to verify my serial number and he mentioned that they finally realized that there is a problem with sms freezing and UI sense and are working hard to fix it. He doesn't know when this update will be available. I did tell him that new iphone is coming out soon they better fix it now or else
Keep calling htc and tmo to expedite this
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
But let some folks on here tell it there wasnt a problem.. it was just "user error."
But custom ROM doesn't fix the sms problems.
But it's more of an annoyance than a problem to begin with. I just delete my texts every 60-80 messages right after syncing with MyPhone.
Pretty Good
dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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You have a pretty good answer for that guy! All most people need to do is put a little research into their phone. Its not that hard to scope out this website and find all kinds of guidance and wisdom. Especially from the senior members.
dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Mr stock broker with no free time, we'll have to wait just a bit more, since none of the new ROM's have completely fixed this problem and from what i can tell its there.
I hope i didn't waist your time but if i did i will send you a check, what is is going rate on wall street these days?
Get roms without htc messaging
earhog said:
Get roms without htc messaging
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This is a top of a line phone and i am not turning anything off, they have to fix it, and i hate that regular sms client.
goldt said:
I just got contacted by HTC representative who asked me to verify my serial number and he mentioned that they finally realized that there is a problem with sms freezing and UI sense and are working hard to fix it. He doesn't know when this update will be available. I did tell him that new iphone is coming out soon they better fix it now or else
Keep calling htc and tmo to expedite this
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Will this update be on HTC's website or T-mobile's? I find that both websites are very difficult to find anything on.
At the same time that I wish they would rush an update out, I hope they take their time and properly fix some of the most prevalent problems with the UI. SMS in general and emails not deleting properly from the HTC UI top my list. Most everything else I have found a fix for.
goldt said:
This is a top of a line phone and i am not turning anything off, they have to fix it, and i hate that regular sms client.
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Bravo my friend. Bravo. I don't understand the ease at which people give up on their right as a customer to be at least satisfied - not even overwhelmed - with the product that they buy. I spent too much money to have to scavenger hunt a fix that is officially not even available yet. Yes, I love XDA, but I should not have to come here for THE BASICS. Sms problems and music glitches that are proprietary?!?!? C'mon. You should come here for advanced tweaks not this BS.
I just called HTC and complained. They said that they are well aware of the problems. There will be a fix, but T-mo has to approve it. It is "supposed" to address: music lag, sms lag and additional sms problems. I was told to monitor this site for the fix: http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
They do not know when it is coming, but they are getting "bombarded" I was told. As the original poster said: Keep calling.
dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
DECIM8 said:
At the same time that I wish they would rush an update out, I hope they take their time and properly fix some of the most prevalent problems with the UI. SMS in general and emails not deleting properly from the HTC UI top my list. Most everything else I have found a fix for.
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I for one am glad to see that HTC and T-Mobile haven't abandoned their new clients. If the iPhone has taught us anything, it's that customers are much more likely to sue a company if that company admits to a few small errors. Today it's hard to find a company that will update new equipment without solid reason.
But I am very glad to be a member of these forums, where I don't have to wait for the corporate red-tape to be cut and discarded to get my phone fixed
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Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Wait, what about those people who dont want to flash or even know anything about XDA? A phone shouldnt have to be lets say hacked to work properly or have the warranty voided to work properly
Raadius said:
Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
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And let your warranty be voided...
Raadius said:
Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
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As much as I laughed at this, if it was perfect to begin with then we might be pretty bored here at XDA
I just an email from HTC and they told me to watch T-mobile WMupgrade site..Lets see what will happened.
a sad pattern forming
I just read on pocketnow.com the the euro hd2 is JUST NOW getting an update to stop the music play lag time and skipping. This phone has been out since november overseas. Most of the hot fixes that I have seen on the original hd2 site are the EXACT problems we are now experiencing with the US version.
It is unacceptable to me to have this blatant negligence. We are breaking our necks trying to tweak and hone this phne to the best of its capabilities, but we are doomed to fail because it was shipped - intentionally - flawed. Not even with new flaws but KNOWN pre-existing flaws. I don't find this to be cool in the least.
You would think that given so much time in between the euro and US version introductions that there would honestly be chages made so that the next customers truly get a better experience. It appears that HTC just randomly slapped the 2.0 verion on the software and gave it their blessing. This will be my last phone by this company.
KidTech said:
I just an email from HTC and they told me to watch T-mobile WMupgrade site..Lets see what will happened.
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Overseas, they are just getting a music hot fix 5 months after the introduction of the phone. I am sure there were more than 10 people that complained about the problem. That we here in the states don't have an update up on the site already is ridiculous since htc AND t-moblie knew the sofware was going to react with glitches from the start. We are mirrioring te errors that the first HD2 had. Lets see how long they make us wait.
ya, i agree with some of the other posts on this thread. why should we pay top dollar for the "lastest and greatest" only to search other means for solutions to known problems. i've flashed my rom, but it's still not 100% there, the messaging lags and my data connection goes back and forth all day and i could be sitting in the same spot.
there is no reason i should have to do a bunch of technical crap to this phone to get it to simply function correctly when its supposed to be the best offering by tmobile to date. i mean, i didn't by a barebones computer system here.
i purchased one for my fiance, and she throws fits about it on a daily basis. "i want my iphone back." i cant say the iphone is a better phone, but at least it does what it says it does, usually without problems. i on the otherhand have tweaked mine and far more tech savy, so i understood what i'm getting myself into. but that's not the point, this phone shouldnt be the way it is, and these problems being treated the way they are.