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Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

**** turpin said:
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

giopirolli said:
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

Gajet said:
Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

giopirolli said:
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

Gajet said:
Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

TartanArmy said:
I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

European English ROM 1.48 Available Now at HTC European Home

Go here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=804
I bought my phone in Belgium, but I assume all your UK S/N's will get you the same download immediately...
FWIW, server "Europe 1" is VERY slow for me -- using Europe 2 and getting 1Mb --

nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??

DAMIEN123_666 said:
nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??
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yes it is

I wondered the same thing about the camera fix - the camera fix is dated by HTC as being released 2 days after the ROM update so hard to know.
And funny what you said: I downloaded the new ROM but haven't installed it as I'm having second thoughts about the hassle of reinstalling and reconfiguring... I'm interested to hear what everyone thinks (i.e., is there some improvement that actually makes it worth the time).

leetenough said:
yes it is
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Genuine curiosity and ignorance here: Why is it worth it?

I would be interested to know if this rom has Copilot8 trial. I would really like to get rid of it.

DAMIEN123_666 said:
nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??
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iphoneresister said:
Genuine curiosity and ignorance here: Why is it worth it?
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i meant, that the camera-fix is included

Still not listed on HTC UK site.
I get this message when i try on the Europe one.
"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
I am assume as mines from O2 they wont let me get it direct from the HTC site.

leetenough said:
i meant, that the camera-fix is included
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Surely the fix isn't included? As the camera fix says its from all versions below 1.6?

bzdemes said:
Still not listed on HTC UK site.
I get this message when i try on the Europe one.
"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
I am assume as mines from O2 they wont let me get it direct from the HTC site.
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Bummer. Sorry for the false alarm. I guess I should have known there would be a difference between European English and UK English. What the difference is, I have no idea... maybe the pound symbol on the main keyboard or something?

Please note mine is an O2 phone so it will probably say no to me on either site. Someone with a UK completely unlocked/unbranded phone should check.

bzdemes said:
Please note mine is an O2 phone so it will probably say no to me on either site. Someone with a UK completely unlocked/unbranded phone should check.
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I have a sim free bought from Handtec with o2 sim in it and my serial allows the update

Stupid branded phones. I have to either wait for ever for O2 to release a version or try out this gold card method of flashing. Fun Fun.

Bought mine via Vodaphone although it appears to be unbranded. I also get the serial number not recognised text.

tho iam undecided on installing it yet ..as I dont have any issues with my phone except the over bright flash

I need the latest just because its the latest lol. Would be nice if there was a full change log though.

bzdemes said:
Would be nice if there was a full change log though.
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Yes, instead of HTC marketing copy about your staying better connected with your "loved ones"

from the updates that seem to be know at the moment im not going to update yet, i feel my device is running great now i have the camera fix and moving from 1.43 to 1.48 seems to much hassle as i have alot of tweaks and apps to install and configure, if i do install the new one,

Hi,
Is there a quick way to save my Orange rom before I flash the HTC rom (in case I need to revert back to the Orange rom).
Thx,
Ben

3.Staying connected to your loved ones is as important to you as it is to us, and we’ve enhanced our voice quality even more in this update. Now updated, we’re delivering crystal clear sound quality, making it even easier to feel close to your loved ones, even when you are on the move.
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Sounds like a good reason to upgrade. besides, I love to stay up to date. It's a must for me.

O2 uk new rom (end of this month)

After weeks of calling O2 and moaning on and on about the locked old 1.43 rom today I have been told by O2 we WILL finaly have a new rom (i guess 1.72) last day of march!

Finally

We were suppose to have it 2 weeks ago...I wont be holding my breath about this...we will see...

Unbelievable how long it's taken o2 to give people an official upgrade. Thank the lord for xda-devs, eh? HSPL & freedom all the way!

i bet its 1.66 rom o2 are really slacking at the moment....

Any clues where it will be available to download?

Really now so what is this the third or fourth date that we have heard. I will believe it when i see it as they say.
and yes I am pessimistic, especially when it comes to O2 and updates...
Also MidnightDraven it will be on the HTC site or may HTC Pedia, if it gets leaked....

Ahh good. thanks for that.
Lets hope it turns up then.

I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them. I understand the reasons, but they don't help at all. And after all this waiting, chances are that they have only been looking at 1.48 and 1.66....... O2 suck.

It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!

l3mm said:
It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!
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At least they might understand you when you mention "ROM" or "Update" as they thought I wanted a new phone, even after explaining it in an email with links to HTC's ROM updates.

Are O2 usually so bad at releasing ROMs? I have personally never flashed one before, but i've waited, as you all have, ages for an official update.

Yeh they are
got the wrong thread a little...

I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.

Pagnell said:
I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.
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Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.

Kalavere said:
Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.
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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.

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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.
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I think you have been the catalyst in my trying a new ROM, I have HSPL installed now and I am going to have a look around for a ROM to suit me.
Oh and by the way, loving the avatar, Bill is a legend!

any more news on if this just mightbe genuine?

Good luck, t-mobile promissed us the same thing by the end of this month and we got given the original ROM (1.43) probably because they thought , nobody will know it's not an update
I thought sod it so flashed hardspl and then the official HTC rom (1.66), gone from rebooting the thing 5+ times a day to once every 3 days or so (which I can live with)

I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them.
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They already released 1.72 for German O2.

TMO US: Updated ROM (Version 2.13.531.1)! Has anyone tried it?

(Looks like noone has posted about this here yet)
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo
Anyone knows what has been fixed and what else has been changed in this ROM?

from what I've got elsewhere on xda, the 2.13 base "feels" slower than the 2.10 base, apparently due to some changes in the touch driver.
Replacing the touch dll's with 2.10 ones seems to fix it.

yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.

DaveNavy said:
yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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Care to share the key so we can download it too?

digitalhater said:
Care to share the key so we can download it too?
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I second this.
I would also like to try it...

DaveNavy said:
yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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Maybe you could post the ROM on 4shared.com if you don't like sharing your key!?

RE795 said:
I second this.
I would also like to try it...
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+1 from me too! I would also like to try it!

oh you mean give my IMEI number out for everyone to see it?...LOL!!!! NO WAY!!! but perhaps I could upload it to my rapidshare account....Give me a few minutes and I will put up a link.

DaveNavy said:
oh you mean give my IMEI number out for everyone to see it?...LOL!!!! NO WAY!!! but perhaps I could upload it to my rapidshare account....Give me a few minutes and I will put up a link.
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That will be great thanks!

well I couldn't do rapidshare cause I only have a free account and the file is 206.18 MB so i used this new one instead: here is the Link
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/144394/T-Mobile_HD2_MR_Software_2.13.531.1.exe
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You will need winRAR to extract and build the .exe
I split the .exe into two .rar archives on 4shared so it would be under 200mb so I could upload it, its uploading now, you will have to download both .rar files and right click .rar1 and hit extract and it will automatically extract .rar2 and create a folder with the Official .exe in it.
HERE IS THE LINK GUYS:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/39776826/c46977da/T-Mobile_HD2_MR_Software_21353.html

oh yeah!
they got rid of the texting issue! it no longer takes forever to load the text messages and no longer blacks out the the text you selected to go into the conversation losing your place in the text you are writing! i now 100% love this phone. i do wonder what else they slid in on this update on us though!
update... if you select a text from further back on your conversation it will still jump to that message you selected UNLESS you started typing already then it stays where you are! still a 500% improvement.

There is a new app called "My Account" that pulls up your t-mobile account status. Pretty cool.
I could be wrong, but my WiFi seems to be working a LOT faster after the upgrade. In fact, it does seem like the lag in several apps is gone...

sooo how do i get this rom into my phone!? is it like adding cookies home tab?

I can I know if I can install this one my phone?
My radio version is 2.08.50.08_2
I don't have the tmobile stock ROM, but a custom HyperROM version. Is it safe to install that new software update?

I posted a personal analysis change log in the T-Mobile USA section for the HD2.
I've been running this updated ROM for about 24 hours now.

how the heck do you put it on the phone I have the exe file on My Device and I go through File Explorer and click on it but it says it is not a valid Pocket PC application. What's the deal?

Stormfya said:
how the heck do you put it on the phone I have the exe file on My Device and I go through File Explorer and click on it but it says it is not a valid Pocket PC application. What's the deal?
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You run the exe from a pc.

so i figured out that it have to run it from a windows pc, but mine keeps saying rapitool has stopped working when it trys to check the device. What do i do?

Stormfya said:
so i figured out that it have to run it from a windows pc, but mine keeps saying rapitool has stopped working when it trys to check the device. What do i do?
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Are you already connected via activesync on XP or WMDC on Vista/Win7?

yes, I am
thanks for any help you can offer

Where is the 8107 update from orange UK?

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Maybe it's like on 3 here in Sweden, 3 is going to need to accept the update. A friend of mine got the update notify but can't install it untill 3 says ok.

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You aren't the only one who's waiting for this update.
I'm also using Omnia 7 from Orange UK and no upgrade in Zune for that moment.
I think i'll try to flash it with DFT Rainbow ROM (based on 8107)

Kozio said:
You aren't the only one who's waiting for this update.
I'm also using Omnia 7 from Orange UK and no upgrade in Zune for that moment.
I think i'll try to flash it with DFT Rainbow ROM (based on 8107)
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May I suggest this custom instead?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22576610#post22576610
Had a few problems with Rainbow *not just the relocking* but I've been using this for 3 days now and its a lot less hassle with an Omnia 7

Same here. Orange UK - Still on 7740.
Orange have been poor with updates. Shame really... I couldn't look at other networks though as Orange have by far the best deals available and do stock a decent range of WP7 handsets.

I've been having major issues with the 3G not working randomly after 8107, so you are quite lucky.

I know this is an oldish thread but has anyone on orange/tmob/everything everywhere or whatever they are calling themselves today have the 8107 update?
The disappearing keyboard is such a pain and I need a fix.
It's Mozart I'm wondering about really because reading up it seems other phones may already have had this update.
I called Orange business support and theire tech guys "don't know about any 8107 update". I thought this was just the call centre woman fobbing me off so sent an email to account managers and they said the same thing even though I sent them offical link from MS about the update.

Wasn't being pushed to my Omnia 7 on T-Mobile UK as of last week.
Is your phone Interop unlocked? If so you could just tweak a registry entry so you receive the update.
If not, you can manually update using the cab sender method. Doesn't require a developer/unlocked phone. I did it myself and its pretty straightforward.
I followed this guide. Easy to do and it shouldn't stop you getting future OS updates (i.e. Tango) and manufacturer firmware updates through Zune. That is, if Orange ever get round to letting them be pushed out.

Thanks sab, I followed the guide and have updated my phone.
I've not seen any problems so going to update my colleagues phone too!
I'm just annoyed with Orange for not pushing updates from MS. I think MS should take control of updates like they do with their operating systems and take the carrier out of it. I appreciate there will be regional issues and carrier specific configurations but it's just silly having updates and not being able to apply them.

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Thanks sab, I followed the guide and have updated my phone.
I've not seen any problems so going to update my colleagues phone too!
I'm just annoyed with Orange for not pushing updates from MS. I think MS should take control of updates like they do with their operating systems and take the carrier out of it. I appreciate there will be regional issues and carrier specific configurations but it's just silly having updates and not being able to apply them.
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Can you confirm this works OK for Orange UK? I don't want to screw up a phone when I still have a few months of the contract left. Also, did you only need 5 language pack on the Mozart? Mine only lists 5 under Display Lancuages, but loads under Region Format.

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Can you confirm this works OK for Orange UK? I don't want to screw up a phone when I still have a few months of the contract left. Also, did you only need 5 language pack on the Mozart? Mine only lists 5 under Display Lancuages, but loads under Region Format.
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I've been using it fine since I posted that updated. As has my colleague. So great to fix that annoying 'hidden keyboard' problem.
If I remember correctly, I used the 5 languages pack only. The same as what was listed in the languages section of the phone.
There are no guarantees and you may screw up your phone. That's the risk you'll have to take.

cyrax.net said:
I've been using it fine since I posted that updated. As has my colleague. So great to fix that annoying 'hidden keyboard' problem.
If I remember correctly, I used the 5 languages pack only. The same as what was listed in the languages section of the phone.
There are no guarantees and you may screw up your phone. That's the risk you'll have to take.
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Forgive my asking another stupid question, but my phone only lists "English". Am I correct in assuming this is English-UK?
I'm also wondering if I should to this if it might break the auto-update and the Tango update might be available in the future. Any thoughts?
Finally, my phone's on 7740, not 7720. Anyone know if that would make a difference?

Yes "English" is English UK. Mine is the same.
I can't comment on the Tango update but I doubt it will affect it. This cab update your doing is an official release as far as I know but it's just that you are forcing the update instead of waiting for Orange to do it.
I was on 7740. This should be the latest build(last time I checked) from Orange on my phone anyways - HTC Mozart.

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