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4gb SHDC microSD card does NOT work!

I just got a SanDisk 4gb SDHC microSD card, and I can confirm that it does NOT work in my TyTN. The TyTN does not "see" the card in Settings->Memory when the card is inserted.
Unless someone has a reg hack that will make this work, I can now confirm that the 4gb SHDC microSD cards do NOT work with the TyTN.

SkyyBoy said:
I just got a SanDisk 4gb SDHC microSD card, and I can confirm that it does NOT work in my TyTN. The TyTN does not "see" the card in Settings->Memory when the card is inserted.
Unless someone has a reg hack that will make this work, I can now confirm that the 4gb SHDC microSD cards do NOT work with the TyTN.
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Have you tried formatting it first with fat32?

It's been known for a long time that the 4GB SDHC cards wouldn't work...
You should be able to sell it on and get a 2GB with the cash you make though easily enough.
I tried one too and found the same thing.. wasn't my card so I didn't mess with it.. but it didn't look like it was ever gonna see it.

sambartle said:
It's been known for a long time that the 4GB SDHC cards wouldn't work...
You should be able to sell it on and get a 2GB with the cash you make though easily enough.
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It has NOT been known that it doesnt work, we actually needed someone to check with a SDHC........now all i can say is that it is most likely a limitation of WM, atleast that was the impression i got from the guys at HTC.
A bit more experimentation is needed.

mrvanx said:
It has NOT been known that it doesnt work, we actually needed someone to check with a SDHC........now all i can say is that it is most likely a limitation of WM, atleast that was the impression i got from the guys at HTC.
A bit more experimentation is needed.
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Yes, it has been known... the SDHC standard is different from the SD...
The SDHC is not compatible with SD unless the device is specifically designed for it... So legacy devices cannot read it...

ffs......if you read through the threads in here you will notice that there is no ACTUAL proof that the Hermes doesnt support SDHC.........HTC have also stated that it is a limit in the OS and NOT the hardware.
We all know SDHC is different from standard SD, but that is not my point, the post i was replying to said we have known for ages.......which is not correct, we still dont know if a reg-hack will allow the memory limit to be lifted from WM5/6.

neocsr said:
Yes, it has been known... the SDHC standard is different from the SD...
The SDHC is not compatible with SD unless the device is specifically designed for it... So legacy devices cannot read it...
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I got a 2 year old digital camera. 3 months ago, a new firmware came out for it to add SDHC support.
I doubt my camera was DESIGNED for it from the start.

mrvanx said:
ffs......if you read through the threads in here you will notice that there is no ACTUAL proof that the Hermes doesnt support SDHC.........HTC have also stated that it is a limit in the OS and NOT the hardware.
We all know SDHC is different from standard SD, but that is not my point, the post i was replying to said we have known for ages.......which is not correct, we still dont know if a reg-hack will allow the memory limit to be lifted from WM5/6.
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Oh, sorry I misunderstood your point... ur right... but it's for sure that the current devices, without any modification will not support SDHC...or is there any example on the contrary?

I noticed that a registry key does exist under HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/SDHC/
maybe someone can find a tweak to make the card work...

SkyyBoy said:
I noticed that a registry key does exist under HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/SDHC/
maybe someone can find a tweak to make the card work...
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It is also known that the SDHC in the reg does NOT stand for SD HC cards.

mrvanx said:
ffs......if you read through the threads in here you will notice that there is no ACTUAL proof that the Hermes doesnt support SDHC.........HTC have also stated that it is a limit in the OS and NOT the hardware.
We all know SDHC is different from standard SD, but that is not my point, the post i was replying to said we have known for ages.......which is not correct, we still dont know if a reg-hack will allow the memory limit to be lifted from WM5/6.
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I ACTUALLY tried it. (as stated in the post you replied too - though you may have clicked before I edited that in and posted after.. the timing is close.. if so sorry about that )

Hmmm wondering if this is solved in WM6..
Would be very usefull if I can have at least 4 GB.
- Arnie

arnoutboer said:
Hmmm wondering if this is solved in WM6..
Would be very usefull if I can have at least 4 GB.
- Arnie
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am using one now.. . .

I flashed WM 6 (vp3G's version 3.0) and my 4GB SDHC works just great.

Yeah, lots of the cooked WM6 ROMs include SDHC support. It was indeed only ever a coding issue that wasn't included in native OS. Well done the chefs.
Search the WM6 forum with the term sdhc and support and you'll be able to compile a list of cooked ROMs that do it. Most recent ones do though as far as I'm aware. Pre-cooked, that is - not sure about the DIY ROM kitchens.
If it helps, Black Satin is very recent indeed and has it. I heartily recommend Medium edition. (Was on LE but installed sev of the removed packs anyway). Also Faria's is a personal favourite of mine (SuperClean).

Micro SD card size

I am totally out of room on my 2gb. Is there anyone who could recommend a 4gb that will work with the 8525 please.

as far as i know (i'm interested in a 4gb also) the only one available (and its actually not available its only listed on the site as pre-order) is from www.jrs. or something, the link is on here but you'll have to search for it sorry

the sandisk microSDHC 4GB model is supported in the new Windows Mobile 6 ROMS from HTC for the Hermes...

There's lots of people that have 4gb micros. Look in the accessories threads to find out!
If you have a verizon store near you, you can probably pick one up Monday morning.
Oh, by the way, in case you haven't read (which I'm sure you haven't), you need one of the newer builds of WM6.
Edit: Sorry, walshieau, didn't mean to repeat you!

I'm using LVSW's latest. Am I good?

whodatfever said:
I'm using LVSW's latest. Am I good?
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HELLO... Did you even read those threads in accessories???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311718
Your answer's in there!! Check your build #!

This is interesting

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.

Morkai Almandragon said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
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SD card support hinges on Google. Honeycomb doesn't support external storage yet. This is a Google issue, not a Motorola issue.

That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.

I'm sure that Toshiba would also be pretty upset if Google decides not to support external storage. They're including an SD card slot in their tablet as well. I'm not sure about all of the others, but there are two manufacturers counting on SD card support.

Morkai Almandragon said:
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
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Well, then don't be concerned: there's absolutely no reason why Honeycomb would support SD and the Xoom wouldn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The Xoom is being treated as a google expeirance device which puts in the same league of updates as the G1, the Nexus 1, the OG Droid, and the Nexus S. It will get it so stop worrying. This is also the reason for the unlocked boot loader. Now as for when thats a whole other story but the more devices that ship with Honeycomb the better because that will put pressure on google to get the update out.

this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.

eatonjb said:
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
Sent from my EVO

bwcorvus said:
I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
Sent from my EVO
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?

eatonjb said:
but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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I'm not sure about the Captivate, but on the Xoom the /data and /sdcard mount points both point to the same logical partition on the internal storage. In most phones, /data has its own partition on the internal storage, and /sdcard is mounted from your sd card slot.

well.. not to argue the point, witch is completely valid, I still do not understand why that was not something that could have been added at the get go.
it just seems simple, as it would require a driver, an just a point in the script to mount it.
Flash, I can see why the issue, new hardware and stuff.
anyways, cant wait to get some SD action, would love to toss some movies on this thing!. (err.. more movies)

the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.

It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
patass said:
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
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familiarstranger said:
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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I have read this time and time again. But where are you getting your info? Who told you it would be updated?

patass said:
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right?
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure they pulled that out of their ass, and was confusing the LTE SIM card slot (which is usuaily ultimately attached to a serial port, no special hardware required) with the SD Card slot.

They were probably just hoping it would all get worked out around the same time as the 4G updates.
This is on the Wifi Model listing:
Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade)

Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why

smilepak said:
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Do you really think Google created a brand new Android OS that should be around for years to come that will not support SD cards? And on top of that, do you think Motorola working with Google would put an SD slot in the xoom and never activate it?
Really, come on...

Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.

Is source available?
c0t0d0s2 said:
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
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User manual: WTF

Credit to DJ Palmis for Source:http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/GT-I9300ZKABTU-downloads
Page 20 of the manual:
Just having a quick read through page 20 is a bit worrying
Insert a memory card (optional)
Your device accepts microSD™ or microSDHC™ memory
cards with maximum capacities of 32 GB (depending on the
memory card manufacturer and type).
Your device supports only the FAT file structure for
memory cards.
WTF
Thought it was supposed to support 64gb and Xfat????

Page said 404 - file not found.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

It's most likely an error, since they have openly advertised that the phone will be supporting 64GB SDXC cards

harise100 said:
Page said 404 - file not found.
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Really.... works for me!!

read that too, that should be a misplaced info.
btw the link works fine

bala_gamer said:
read that too, that should be a misplaced info.
btw the link works fine
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I do hope so... Got a 64gb on its way

funb0b said:
I do hope so... Got a 64gb on its way
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Regardless, you can still make it a FAT32 and it will work. You will just have a 4GB limitation which I don't think people will be carrying files that large. But I'm sure it's a typo.
I've never been so excited about reading a user manual.

funb0b said:
I do hope so... Got a 64gb on its way
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as per supercurios info S3 includes a proprietary Samsung exFAT kernel driver, so it should work

SlimJ87D said:
Regardless, you can still make it a FAT32 and it will work. You will just have a 4GB limitation which I don't think people will be carrying files that large. But I'm sure it's a typo.
I've never been so excited about reading a user manual.
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Ya so was I until i got to page 20 lol

I like the sound of page 30
You can use the motion unlock for
unlocking the screen. In the application
list, select Settings → Security → Screen
lock → Motion → OK. To unlock the
screen with the motion unlock, tap and
hold a point on the screen, and then tilt
the device forwards.

funb0b said:
Really.... works for me!!
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If I use my Desktop browser it works.
I hope it will work with 64gb, it's already ordered. Didn't the S2 manual say the same? 32gb+fat?

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...14339308/GT-I9300_UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120511_Screen.pdf
If I understand that bolded text correctly, this manual is from last December.

But the last page says:
English (EU). 05/2012. Rev. 1.0
But it's a definite typo. I think.
Shouldn't let the apprentice do the proof reading

pekkala89 said:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...14339308/GT-I9300_UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120511_Screen.pdf
If I understand that bolded text correctly, this manual is from last December.
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Yeah most likely it's 5-11-2012. Those foreigners always putting the date in weird formats.

The ICS manual of the S2 reads just the same, word by word and we all know, 64gb sd cards work on the S2.
So I think there is no need to worry, isn't it?!

Jirv311 said:
Yeah most likely it's 5-11-2012. Those foreigners always putting the date in weird formats.
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That doesn't even make any sense? YYYY-MM-DD is the way to go
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

Manual hase been linked today on Samsing official support page.
What about the antenna location and the lack of Mass Storage USN profile?!!
Will it be avaible with any work around?!

harise100 said:
The ICS manual of the S2 reads just the same, word by word and we all know, 64gb sd cards work on the S2.
So I think there is no need to worry, isn't it?!
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Also I recall there's really no difference other than it shouldn't assume max storage is 32GB which some software does.

DJ Palmis said:
Manual hase been linked today on Samsing official support page.
What about the antenna location and the lack of Mass Storage USN profile?!!
Will it be avaible with any work around?!
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What is the problem with the antenna location?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

It is in the bottom, usualy covered by hand..
Do you know Apple's "Antenna Gate"?

Operation 32gb sd card!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883582
I remember seeing this back when I had the HD7. Thought it was interesting. So why not buy an 8GB and rip it open and replace the mem chip>?
I know you will have to be a man with an iron heart and nerves of steel to crack it open.
But I am sure someone will! May be...

Well i don't think that the nexus uses a SD card i think it uses something called Nand chip but i am not sure

I didn't know it was truly an SD chip in there. Even class 10 SD memory isn't all that fast.

If it does actually use a micro sd card, and it's actually accessible, that would be revolutionary news! No one would need the 16GB version

I don't think so.
Try this
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=594507&fcc_id='ZNFE960'
3rd and 5th entries.

USSENTERNCC1701E said:
I don't think so.
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1785527
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That page is blocked btw.
I assume you're linking to the internal shots though, which of course don't seem to show any signs of a microsd card, right?

jacklebott said:
That page is blocked btw.
I assume you're linking to the internal shots though, which of course don't seem to show any signs of a microsd card, right?
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Thanks, fixed it.
And yes, that's where I was referring. Pretty complete tear down, no SD card.

How in the world...??
what website is that?

circleofomega said:
How in the world...??
what website is that?
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It is from fcc.gov

That link kicks a$$ thanks really interesting to just look at the files.

Wow.. the document show of the internal teardown had also means the battery replacement will be quite easy too. Good news?
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ZhenMing said:
Wow.. the document show of the internal teardown had also means the battery replacement will be quite easy too. Good news?
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Yes..it is already on Twitter..my concern was the memory..if mem card could also be just easy, we have more POWER!

Are there internal pictures of OptimusG?
Maybe PCB is similar and we have sdcard breakout

m11kkaa said:
Are there internal pictures of OptimusG?
Maybe PCB is similar and we have sdcard breakout
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https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...plication_id=633865&typ=8374&fcc_id='ZNFE970'

Some manufacturer should make a case with a micro-usb to sd-card integrated on it.

I'm quite sure the device is using nand flash memory chip, would make no sense to include an internal SD Card.

If you look at this the user manual on the FCC website, there's a section about using a memory card. It's located at page 32 if you use Acrobat and page 33 of the guide. And page 33 or 34, it says "NOTE: The LG-E960 supports memory cards up to 64 GB."
There's no slot but they say how to mount/dismount SD card...

Pingus25 said:
If you look at this the user manual on the FCC website, there's a section about using a memory card. It's located at page 32 if you use Acrobat and page 33 of the guide. And page 33 or 34, it says "NOTE: The LG-E960 supports memory cards up to 64 GB."
There's no slot but they say how to mount/dismount SD card...
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It's also missing pictures on those pages, so can't really tell if the manual is just not in line with the actual device.
Could be just an early adaptation from the Optimus G user guide.

USSENTERNCC1701E said:
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My god that is the worst put together phone in the world.
I was hoping the Nexus 4 internals was just pre production but it's really shipping like that?
If you take an iPhone 4 apart it is like a work of art and I don't even like them.

Venekor said:
My god that is the worst put together phone in the world.
I was hoping the Nexus 4 internals was just pre production but it's really shipping like that?
If you take an iPhone 4 apart it is like a work of art and I don't even like them.
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Art is meant to be seen