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HD2 to have windows phone 7 series

Forward to 6:51:30 and pay close attention to the her hand raised to her Ear @ 6:51:38 and Pause....that bak of the HTC HD2 !!!!!!
They have masked the front of the phone with CGI...LoL
HTC HD2 .....YEP !!! there it is !!!
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224

surely looks like one... and it's easier to modify the look of an existing phone with effects than building a whole new device for the express reason to make an advertisement.
But even admitting that WAS indeed a CG'ed HD2, how would it confirm we're getting a WinMo7 update?

You are SOOO RIGHT!!!
I took a screen shot of it!
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It could simply mean that they weren't expecting people to watch the video frame by frame! I can't really see that this means we're getting Winmo 7 for the HD2...

monty_rm said:
It could simply mean that they weren't expecting people to watch the video frame by frame! I can't really see that this means we're getting Winmo 7 for the HD2...
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monty_rm said:
It could simply mean that they weren't expecting people to watch the video frame by frame! I can't really see that this means we're getting Winmo 7 for the HD2...
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Seen as there are no phones released for WP7 they had to use some sort of prop for the video!

from the still of the video, I'd say it's either not an HD2 (you can guess only from camera lens and leds), or they went so far as to model it to look thicker and with "rounder" edges.
Still, the fact that they did so much to camouflage it being an HD2 (admitting it actually is), if nothing else, proves that they didn't want to give too many hopes about hd2 getting WM7,otherwise it would have been a good idea to take the most succesful WM device on the market right now and put it in a WM7 video...

Sure, but I have no doubt that WM7 will be running on the HD2 soon after release (if not before.) It uses a newer version of the Windows CE core, so it isn't that inconceivable that it will find its way to the HD2, one way or another. Not sure what all the fuss is about, really. After seeing the videos, the interface is not that great. It is better than 6.5, but Microsoft has NEVER been known for its design strength or esthetic sense. Sure, the guy who was a designer for Nike is responsible for it, but how much do tennis shoes and cellular phone UI's have in common?
I hate the fact that MS has decided to take the position that they have with regard to the UI, but if history shows us anything, this "limit" will mean nothing. Any barrier they put up will eventually be crossed by someone.
I still think that Sense is the best mobile UI experience, and I really like it on the HD2. Microsoft has publicly stated that they will continue development on WM 6.5, so I hope that it gets updated, along with Sense, to preserve what is special about the HD2 user experience. It's just cool, and it does everything I needed my phone to do... even more so with custom ROMs.

vardig said:
Forward to 6:51:30 and pay close attention to the her hand raised to her Ear @ 6:51:38 and Pause....that bak of the HTC HD2 !!!!!!
They have masked the front of the phone with CGI...LoL
HTC HD2 .....YEP !!! there it is !!!
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224
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Looks like an iPhone to me

A mocked up photo no more means an upgrade for the HD2 than a mocked up photo of a car on the moon means that it is capable of space flight!
Leaks aside, I can't see HTC rushing to provide an upgrade for a device that will be nudging a year old come the time WM7 hits the market. It's rather more likely that MS are teeing up device manufacturers for the next generation of phones. Any link to the HD2, even tenuous ones like the phone in the video, may be because the HD2 is one of very few devices capable of running their alpha/proof of concept.
As to whether I actually want the upgrade...looks OK-ish but seems to be moving too far towards the 'I won't like it if it's too hard and needs me to think for myself' brigade of Apple-loving iWhingers for my tastes. Of course this is all still essentially speculation.

lucky we got htc sence because the OS 7 interface looks ugly

if wm7 doesnot support other ui ,then all the years of development done by htc untill reaching htc sense 2.5 will be threw to rubbish as all future htc phones will not have htc sense , may be hd2 is the last device to use sense 2.5 in htc windows product line ,

hoss_n2 said:
if wm7 doesnot support other ui ,then all the years of development done by htc untill reaching htc sense 2.5 will be threw to rubbish as all future htc phones will not have htc sense , may be hd2 is the last device to use sense 2.5 in htc windows product line ,
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there is always potential for windows 6.7 upgrade for future devices

There actually will be concurrent and continued development of WM 6.5, per Microsoft's direct statements, and Sense UI will continue to be used in other platforms, most notably, Android, so Sense is safe for the foreseeable future. I don't think HTC will scrap it, nor should they do so.
I love the Sense UI, and I wish that MS would adopt it as the stock UI in WM7, but they never asked me.
Seriously, can you imagine how it could be improved if it wasn't just a skin, but actually a part of the OS itself?

Sorry, but the Xperia X1 has been also in WM6.5-promos and it has never got an update...

donalgodon said:
Sure, the guy who was a designer for Nike is responsible for it, but how much do tennis shoes and cellular phone UI's have in common?
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I found that odd as well. Nike? What's that got to do with user interfaces??
WP7 just barely works during some of the video presentations I've seen today. In a couple of the videos, the presenter had to go back to the home panel a few times and try again or just continue on to the next feature.
It might be December before it comes out and then most of you guys will be lusting after the HD3.

Isn't HTC going to have a press event tomorrow at MWC? Maybe someone will ask a question on whether or not the HD2 will receive an upgrade to WP7?

HD2 Running WP7
I hope we can have this OS soon...
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395

This looks fake to me...

I just hope it's not fake...

Evo 2.3 Update

I was thinking, since HTC overlays android with Sense, What's the point of us getting 2.3? Except the AOSP roms. Shouldn't we just be more excited for the new sense to come besides 2.3?

From what I understand, the 2.3 update is more under the hood than aesthetic... So while it'll look the same (save for a few animations, like the CRT outro), you'll get marginally better performance out of everything. The menus might look a little cleaner but you're right, there isn't going to be a lot that you'll be able to SEE in the update.
That said, your Android experience will be a little better. Faster processing, hopefully better battery life, etc. That's the stuff you should look forward to.

I just want the new HTC Sense.
Sent from my Evo using XDA app.

Sense is a UI. Android is an OS. You should be excited to get updates to either or both.

i would like to see the option to turn off htc sense and run classical android ui. nothing against htc sense, just want options. all in all cant wait for the 2.3 update.

info[]box1 said:
i would like to see the option to turn off htc sense and run classical android ui. nothing against htc sense, just want options. all in all cant wait for the 2.3 update.
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+1, 10 char

I wasn't all that impressed when we got the update to 2.2. I guess the build up before release had me thinking that it was going to be a lot different than it turned out to be. That said, now that I have got used to the new features in 2.2, their is no way I could go back to 2.1. I have a hunch that the 2.3 experience will be the same.

Well, you have to consider that we have HTC Sense UI to contend with. I'm sure if you ask Nexus One users (running AOSP and not bogged down by manufacturers), they'll most definitely tell you a different story. My friends with the N1 think 2.2 is great since their phones fly now (literally...jk). I think one of them said he gets like 35ish MFLOPS on linpack compared to only around 7 on 2.1 before. Anyways, hardware limits aside, just like 2.2 brought Flash-support, battery optimization, and few other improvements...I'm sure Gingerbread 2.3 will bring some excitement to the table. Don't knock it yet.

info[]box1 said:
i would like to see the option to turn off htc sense and run classical android ui. nothing against htc sense, just want options. all in all cant wait for the 2.3 update.
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Why not just run CM6? Because no 4g?

info[]box1 said:
i would like to see the option to turn off htc sense and run classical android ui. nothing against htc sense, just want options. all in all cant wait for the 2.3 update.
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I install adw.launcher and it gives me aosp look on sense roms
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NewZJ said:
I install adw.launcher and it gives me aosp look on sense roms
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Ugh no offence that looks nasty I enjoy Adw on cyanogen. Just use the stock launcher looks great!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Native video calling and hardware acceleration will be nice.
As someone else said, 2.2 didn't floor me, but I certainly wouldn't give it up now either.

jkinnison90 said:
I just want the new HTC Sense.
Sent from my Evo using XDA app.
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Run a desireHD rom. I am and the new sense is phenomenal.

I was watching a video on YouTube by "EmoGamer"...(I think) anyway - Whoever it was had a video of the 2.3 update (apparently released in the the U.K or some where) It actually looks pretty sweet - a lot of new features according to the Video...
Just search Android 2.3 update and you should be able to find it...

indagroove said:
Sense is a UI. Android is an OS. You should be excited to get updates to either or both.
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if you install 2.3 gingerbread you will not have senseUI any longer as Google is doing the same thing that Microsoft and Apple are now doing, not allowing any third party overlays. If you want to keep senseUI then stick with 2.2 or wait for someone to jailbreak 2.3 and void your warranty. I plan to install 2.3 when it is available but will miss senseUI. But Google wants 2.3 and above to be a premium device with a consistent user interface experience. Currently their are several different user experiences which give different experiences to the same user. This needs to stop. Look at Apple and MS with Windows Phone 7. If an Android user picks up one phone they should be able to pick up any other android phone and be able to use it with out having to learn a different interface such as TouchWIZ or SenseUI. Granted I love SenseUI but I believe in what Google is doing by uniting them. This is also being done to stop fragmentation as well.
Samsung TouchWIZ
HTC SENSEUI
Launcher 2.x for Android 2.1+
As you can see their is no common user interface, which does not give a common user expierence like Apple does. And no i do not love apple.

dzuchowski said:
if you install 2.3 gingerbread you will not have senseUI any longer as Google is doing the same thing that Microsoft and Apple are now doing, not allowing any third party overlays. If you want to keep senseUI then stick with 2.2 or wait for someone to jailbreak 2.3 and void your warranty. I plan to install 2.3 when it is available but will miss senseUI. But Google wants 2.3 and above to be a premium device with a consistent user interface experience. Currently their are several different user experiences which give different experiences to the same user. This needs to stop. Look at Apple and MS with Windows Phone 7. If an Android user picks up one phone they should be able to pick up any other android phone and be able to use it with out having to learn a different interface such as TouchWIZ or SenseUI. Granted I love SenseUI but I believe in what Google is doing by uniting them. This is also being done to stop fragmentation as well.
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Any facts to back up your claim here? I know google wants to make it more unified but they haven't come out and said they flat out wont allow anything.
http://www.android-center.com/TB/?P=16023

sgt. slaughter said:
Any facts to back up your claim here? I know google wants to make it more unified but they haven't come out and said they flat out wont allow anything.
http://www.android-center.com/TB/?P=16023
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I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation, but there is some inference here:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/how-open-open-source-android-truly
Personally, I think that HTC will simply shift their focus slightly. Unstead of having a full UI overlay, they may have device proprietary widgets to continue the sense feel on stock android shell.

jkinnison90 said:
I just want the new HTC Sense.
Sent from my Evo using XDA app.
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+1 Ditto, 2.3 is an afterthought... Mainly becuase of the lack of information on it.

Regular android is so bland looking to me. Hopefully by honey comb it will be more 'pretty'.
I also like Sense and its features, so hopefully there will be a 2.3 with Sense.
Sent from my Evo using XDA app.

kenfly said:
Run a desireHD rom. I am and the new sense is phenomenal.
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how so?
10GDchar

[Q] Smoothest NAND ONLY Desire Z or HD ROM?

I'd like to try literally every Desire HD or Z ROM out there to find what the smoothest one is... No overclocking allowed (SetCPU is OK to setup profiles/governor), no data.img , no EXT2/3/4 involved. The problem is that when working 70+ hours a week, you simply don't have a lot of time to try them all! Plus I depend on my phone for work emails - I can't go without it too terribly long!
In YOUR experience, what is the most smooth and stable Desire HD or Z ROM out there? (FOR TMOUS Branded HD2)
NO - I don't give a rat's rear end about quadrant scores - I am talking about real life speed and lag (or lack there of!) Overclocking for me has done nothing but cause the phone to run slower and less reliably, so I'd rather stick at stock speeds or an extremely modest overclock.
I'm currently running MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 - it's wicked smooth, but I can't help but miss a lot of what Sense offers.
Any input is greatly appreciated!

these kinds of questions are looked down upon in forums, mostly, as conditions always change,
but some say DL DesireZ is the smoothest out there at the moment.
I haven't personally tried it, though

Go to the android dev section at htcpedia.com and download DesireHD-Version of mcmmjoon (currentlx version 5.1) The ROM also achieves 2mAh in Standby!
You cannot get the ROM here because mcmmjoon was kicked from the boards.

JWhipple said:
I'd like to try literally every Desire HD or Z ROM out there to find what the smoothest one is... No overclocking allowed (SetCPU is OK to setup profiles/governor), no data.img , no EXT2/3/4 involved. The problem is that when working 70+ hours a week, you simply don't have a lot of time to try them all! Plus I depend on my phone for work emails - I can't go without it too terribly long!
In YOUR experience, what is the most smooth and stable Desire HD or Z ROM out there? (FOR TMOUS Branded HD2)
NO - I don't give a rat's rear end about quadrant scores - I am talking about real life speed and lag (or lack there of!) Overclocking for me has done nothing but cause the phone to run slower and less reliably, so I'd rather stick at stock speeds or an extremely modest overclock.
I'm currently running MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 - it's wicked smooth, but I can't help but miss a lot of what Sense offers.
Any input is greatly appreciated!
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I used to be adamant about having Sense, couldn't stand the stock Froyo UI. Then I tried WP7, and that lived all but 2 hours on my HD2 - that's one limited UI and phone OS. After that, I switched to MDJ's CM7 - and loving it for speed and smoothness.
I've been looking for widgets that would be as informative as those in Sense, and found the following solution, which works great for me:
a. Launcher Pro Plus - paid software, but comes with really nice widgets for calendar, "Friends Stream", contacts. Similar to Sense. Nice transitions. Highly recommended.
b. Fancy Widget - clock / weather similar to that of Sense, limited to one city. Paid version supports skins, and HTC 7 is almost an exact replica of that in Sense.
c. You may try Beautiful Widgets as well - has some goodies.
d. DialerOne (free) supports contact search from the phone keypad.
With all this, I'm fine with the rest of the UI, and the speed cannot be beat.

Is MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 running Android 2.3?

gottabekin said:
Is MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 running Android 2.3?
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Yes, as shown on the ROM thread!
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I totally agree, mdj cyanogen mid seven is my daily. Sense looks better, and sometimes may be more intuitive or user friendly, but my god that gingerbread rom is blazing fast.
On another note, I liked beautiful/fancy widget as my clock until I found simi clock. This widget displays time, weather, and even battery percentage in one row. And it looks really simple and minimalistic, which I personally love
Edit: forgot to mention, the only thing the desire hd builds have over mdjs seven is tmous mms fixed. Still can't get mine to come in as well as on cmys build.
Sent from my FutureShocks HD2 MIUI using XDA App

bunnahabhain said:
Go to the android dev section at htcpedia.com and download DesireHD-Version of mcmmjoon (currentlx version 5.1) The ROM also achieves 2mAh in Standby!
You cannot get the ROM here because mcmmjoon was kicked from the boards.
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Is that ROM his own work though!?!?!?

I'm using iamgpc pure gingerbread rom. Its my first rom ever but its totally solid and fast and smooth as my mates desire
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[25-FEB-2011][DISCUSS[Q]HTC Sense UI

Ok, let me start out by saying my knowledge is minimal as I'm currently an iPhone user. However, I plan on picking up an HD2 and modding the hell out of it. So, my question would be: Is there a way to use HTC Sense UI on HD2? Or is it only the new phones labeled with an S? Like HTC's new lineup coming out I believe there is three phones, which I could care less about at the moment. Meaning, I wouldn't jump to it to have the Sense UI work I'll stick with HD2 because of it's modding capabilities. Thanks.

The HD2 has sense as standard.
In either WM 6.5 or Android flavour if you want it........
6.5 is better though.... but shhhhhh you cant get away with saying things like that anymore

conantroutman said:
The HD2 has sense as standard.
In either WM 6.5 or Android flavour if you want it........
6.5 is better though.... but shhhhhh you cant get away with saying things like that anymore
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Thanks for the reply. I can't wait to get this phone! W00t W00t. I saw an article from a search I did referencing XDA forums to UNLOCK the HD2. I have AT&T currently that's why.

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You can have HTC Sense "V1" which is what the Evo, Desire, Incredible come with. It's got the Sense clock and animated weather and big sleek HTC widgets.
there are also HTC Sense "V2" which is Desire HD/Z and Incredible S. This is the Sense where you can change the skin whenever you want and there are a bunch of awesome ones, support for more widgets, access to HTC hub, flip clock, and really nice eye candy.
WM6.5
also has "sense" which is the sense flip clock, animated weather, and a really nice UI experience, especially if you flash a custom ROM with cookie home tab where you can really modify things and basically add widgets.
iOS.
don't forget on iOS you can jailbreak it and have a nice Sense theme going, and even animated weather just like HTC sense, this is if you plan to keep your iPhone while you rock the HD2.

orangekid said:
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You can have HTC Sense "V1" which is what the Evo, Desire, Incredible come with. It's got the Sense clock and animated weather and big sleek HTC widgets.
there are also HTC Sense "V2" which is Desire HD/Z and Incredible S. This is the Sense where you can change the skin whenever you want and there are a bunch of awesome ones, support for more widgets, access to HTC hub, flip clock, and really nice eye candy.
WM6.5
also has "sense" which is the sense flip clock, animated weather, and a really nice UI experience, especially if you flash a custom ROM with cookie home tab where you can really modify things and basically add widgets.
iOS.
don't forget on iOS you can jailbreak it and have a nice Sense theme going, and even animated weather just like HTC sense, this is if you plan to keep your iPhone while you rock the HD2.
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I'm going to keep both and switch simcards as I feel necessary. IF everything goes according to plan that is. The version 2 is able to be install / used on HD2? I want the ability to flip my phone upside down and it turn to vibrate mode. That's so neat. And of course other things that is may have to offer. So my thinking is, maybe you could put it on HD2, but that the new phones will have it to begin with. Or, it will only be available on new phones, which would suck.

Ambush083 said:
I'm going to keep both and switch simcards as I feel necessary. IF everything goes according to plan that is. The version 2 is able to be install / used on HD2? I want the ability to flip my phone upside down and it turn to vibrate mode. That's so neat. And of course other things that is may have to offer. So my thinking is, maybe you could put it on HD2, but that the new phones will have it to begin with. Or, it will only be available on new phones, which would suck.
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yeah the Desire HD and the Incredible S come with this stock, but we have custom ROMs for the HD2 which do the same thing and more;
here's an example of a ROM you can flash on your HD2, check out the screenshots and video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528

Ambush083 said:
Ok, let me start out by saying my knowledge is minimal as I'm currently an iPhone user.
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Quote of the year!

TheATHEiST said:
Quote of the year!
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Knowledge as in Winmo and Android. Oh, and God doesn't believe in Athiests.

Ambush083 said:
I did referencing XDA forums to UNLOCK the HD2. I have AT&T currently that's why.
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not that sort of unlocking. There is no free way to network unlock a hd2, other than by getting a code from the network it came from, or buying one online.
You will have read about rom unlocking, meaning you can flash, but that would still be network locked.

Well off topic, but I like you. You can read.
Majority of new users in this forum can't read, and it annoys the hell out of me. But you're different, you're willing to read and abide by the rules. So I think modding the HD2 won't be hard for you since you're able to read. So best of luck, hope you enjoy WP7, android and winmo.
Hope you continue reading.

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Well off topic, but I like you. You can read.
Majority of new users in this forum can't read, and it annoys the hell out of me. But you're different, you're willing to read and abide by the rules. So I think modding the HD2 won't be hard for you since you're able to read. So best of luck, hope you enjoy WP7, android and winmo.
Hope you continue reading.
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Thanks. It's good to follow the rules.
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HTC Sense: Not Gettin' the Love It Deserves

Everywhere I look, I see people bashing Sense for being so bloated, so limited, etc. Where is the love? I have been using the Fresh ROM (which by the way, has the best battery life of any other ROM I have tried) and Myn's 2.2 ROM for the most part since getting my EVO on launch day. I have tried others, but kept coming back to them. I couldn't quite pinpoint it. It wasn't just the stability, the fluidity, it was the launcher and its widgets.
Sure, Sense can be a bit limited. But there are some tweaks around that can get you by such as 4x5 Rosie icons, etc.
I don't care what anyone says, Sense has the best widgets for Android hands down. It isn't even close.
I'm currently trying out Vaelpak and I quite enjoy the freedom I have in customizing it. But the widgets for Launcher Pro are just lacking. I invested in the LP+ to get the calendar widget that resembles Sense but that too isn't as good. The clock/weather widget has even a bigger disparity. Fancy/Beautiful widgets don't come close. I'm not even going to get into FriendStream and People.
I mean, LP+ doesn't even have a simple E-mail icon with an unread mail counter? This is basic and should be the first widget to be included with a launcher. Shame on them.
I do like some of the transition animations from LP+, but I know I'll get over that in a week.
All in all, thank you HTC for investing time and attention to detail in your software as much as you do your hardware.
XoXo

I think my only major problem with sense at this point is the broken bluetooth. Get a wiimote working on sense, and I probably would stick with Fresh. Until then, it's CM for me.
I agree otherwise...it doesn't get the credit it deserves. It runs circles around touchwiz

In before Android hipster influx

I think sense looks uglyyyyy and its slowwww. Cm7 honeybread lp7 FTW. btw fancywidget pro looks better then the sense flipclock =D just my opinions. Be jealous
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A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

I love Sense
Stock Android's Browser is pretty bad
and so is the stock gallery (why is it so unorganized and takes forever to load a freakin picture)
Sense gallery is neat, organized and loads quickly.

Here is my take;
Sense looks more polished
AOSP looks just "cooler"
I constantly switch between cm7 and stock turbo. They both have there advantages that make them worth having nand backups for.
Op is right, sense is under appreciated and unfairly called slow. The stock turbo rom ricsism put together (mikfroyo and myn too) are just as smooth as cm7. I've even noticed better battery life with the sense rom. But in terms of keyboard, and browser speed, cm7 takes the cake.
My 2 cents

I hate the way Sense is setup, I don't mind the launcher but that's it.

I love Sense, except:
1. You can't customize it (colors/themes) without using a custom ROM
2. The Sense messaging app on the Evo2.2 is SLOW as crap, laggy when you're scrolling and such. That's enough to make me not want to use it.
3. Battery life sucks. I'm at 88% at 8 hours unplugged right now, CM7 with Savaged-Zen kernel.

DonutGrunt said:
I love Sense
Stock Android's Browser is pretty bad
and so is the stock gallery (why is it so unorganized and takes forever to load a freakin picture)
Sense gallery is neat, organized and loads quickly.
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I totally agree.

Crossrocker said:
I think sense looks uglyyyyy and its slowwww. Cm7 honeybread lp7 FTW. btw fancywidget pro looks better then the sense flipclock =D just my opinions. Be jealous
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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Hang on... you call this good looking?! That is one of the ugliest screenshots I have seen btw.

What do you mean by this comment?
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Ryjabo said:
I love Sense, except:
1. You can't customize it (colors/themes) without using a custom ROM
2. The Sense messaging app on the Evo2.2 is SLOW as crap, laggy when you're scrolling and such. That's enough to make me not want to use it.
3. Battery life sucks. I'm at 88% at 8 hours unplugged right now, CM7 with Savaged-Zen kernel.
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1. Check out Myn's 2.2 (one of the many themed Sense ROMs out there)
2. Check out Hancent SMS (who uses the stock messaging app?!)
3. Check out Fresh ROM 3.5.0.1 (Best battery life... period!)

The sense is a hog. If you get rid of the bloatware from sprint you are sill left with aroun 350mb vs a AOSP that will give you 408mb. Now of course it fuctions better but with the DEV that I have seen on this sight that will not be the issue in the long run.

Crossrocker said:
I think sense looks uglyyyyy and its slowwww. Cm7 honeybread lp7 FTW. btw fancywidget pro looks better then the sense flipclock =D just my opinions. Be jealous
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Every aftermarket clock widget that tries to look like sense has awful, low res text in the flip clock boxes. That clock looks like ass. This is the sense clock, it's beautiful:
That being said, I run an AOSP rom because I like customization. It took me THREE MONTHS just to decide that the widgets were BARELY not worth it. HTC makes such gorgeous widgets, I just wish it was a little more open. MAN that HTC clock is lovely. FancyWidget and BeautifulWidgets large clocks look like TRASH by comparison.
However, the beautiful widgets smaller home weather/clock widget looks nice (this is my screen):
(not pretending my desktop is the fairest of them all, just saying... aftermarket clocks always look like ****)

I feel that sense makes the phone what it is.
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Wait till the new version of Sense hits the Evo. It might give MIUI a run for its money.

If you like sense great,
If you like Cm mazel tov!
How many times must we continue to endure this tired debate........

Crossrocker said:
I think sense looks uglyyyyy and its slowwww. Cm7 honeybread lp7 FTW. btw fancywidget pro looks better then the sense flipclock =D just my opinions. Be jealous
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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Where did you get those icons?
.........at 8 am today someone poisons the coffee....do not drink the coffee. More instructions will follow.
Cordially,
Future Dwight

Is this a "post your home screen" thread? I win

JaiCameron said:
If you like sense great,
If you like Cm mazel tov!
How many times must we continue to endure this tired debate........
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I have to agree. The OP says everyone is bashing Sense. If they are I don't see the bashing, just two categories of roms and two groups of people that prefer one over the other.
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