What's the difference between mobile hotspot and wireless tether? - EVO 4G General

I mean if sprint is going to charge for the mobile hotspot feature, wouldn't the wireless tether allow you to do the same thing? I'm not too familiar with all that wireless tether can do, but I have had 2 laptops use wireless tether on my Hero simultaneously.

unknown_owner said:
I mean if sprint is going to charge for the mobile hotspot feature, wouldn't the wireless tether allow you to do the same thing? I'm not too familiar with all that wireless tether can do, but I have had 2 laptops use wireless tether on my Hero simultaneously.
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Wifi tethering initially acts just like a hotspot app.

mobile hotspot vs. wireless tether
unknown_owner said:
I mean if sprint is going to charge for the mobile hotspot feature, wouldn't the wireless tether allow you to do the same thing? I'm not too familiar with all that wireless tether can do, but I have had 2 laptops use wireless tether on my Hero simultaneously.
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In my opinion, they're the same thing. I've been able to have multiple devices on using the wireless tether feature on my EVO.
The fact that sprint charges $1/day for this makes a kind of mad though since we already pay for the data to come to the phone, now we have to pay to distribute it to other devices. Most likely to limit abuse.
If you've rooted your phone and loaded a different mod, most likely you are bypassing sprint's ability to charge you.

Sprint mobile hotspot is by Sprint, more integrated with the phone and you normally have to pay per month to use it ($30 I think). I'm pretty sure it also won't let you use 4g (IIRC). Some ROMs have this unlocked so you don't have to pay Sprint (although you would be violating your contract).
Wireless tether is an app that requires root and provides pretty much the same thing as mobile hotspot on the Evo but it definitely supports 4g. Using it is also technically a violation of your contract with Sprint.
Both support at least 5 devices connected at the same time.
In both cases (unlocked mobile hotspot or wireless tether app) I would doub that Sprint would hassle you if you only use them lightly/occasionally, but it is up to you to decide whether to risk doing so.

I addition to above post: the hotspot you pay sprint for will allow you to use 4g. The hacked version available on custom sense roms allows for 3g only (unlike the wireless tether app).
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How long do I have to commit to Mobile Hotspot service?

I am interested in the optional Mobile Hotspot feature and its extra-cost service. I cannot justify that expense if I have to lock it in for a whole two-year contract, but I would find it useful sometimes.
For example, if I plan to be traveling in a certain month and want to add this service for $30 for that billing cycle but drop it later, could I do so?
boomerbubba said:
I am interested in the optional Mobile Hotspot feature and its extra-cost service. I cannot justify that expense if I have to lock it in for a whole two-year contract, but I would find it useful sometimes.
For example, if I plan to be traveling in a certain month and want to add this service for $30 for that billing cycle but drop it later, could I do so?
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If you add/remove the hotspot service before your billing cycle they should be able to change it whenever you want.
Personally though, if you just root your phone, you can have free tethering whenever you want!
You don't have to commit to it, you can add and cancel whenever.
I heard that if you want to use the full-fledged mobile hotspot funstionality to connect to multiple devices, you must pay the $30 mobile broadband service, but if you just wanna tether to one device using, says, PDAnet, you don't have to buy the plan. Is it true? There are EVO users who claim that Sprint cut it off once they know you're tethering w/o plan even just to one device using PDAnet.
FrankCummings said:
I heard that if you want to use the full-fledged mobile hotspot funstionality to connect to multiple devices, you must pay the $30 mobile broadband service, but if you just wanna tether to one device using, says, PDAnet, you don't have to buy the plan. Is it true? There are EVO users who claim that Sprint cut it off once they know you're tethering w/o plan even just to one device using PDAnet.
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I believe the official statement from Sprint is that this is allowed. However, the last time I used PDAnet, it wasn't very good, and I much prefer the root approach to it, as that way you can tether via wifi as well.
The only way Sprint will actually know if you are tethering is if you are using HIGH AMOUNTS of data CONSTANTLY. Which in that case, they have the right to cut you off if its obvious you are tethering on a constant basis.
But simply tethering a few devices to browse internet, stream videos/music doesn't use up TOO much data. The most I've ever used was about 200MB when I had 3 laptops tethered to my phone for about 1.5 hours.
$30 bucks a month for tethering is ridiculous unless you plan on being tethered for days on end.
The rooted tether works perfectly on my Nexus, to connect laptops, my DSi, friends iphones/ipod touches etc and is best of all free.
NeonMonster said:
The only way Sprint will actually know if you are tethering is if you are using HIGH AMOUNTS of data CONSTANTLY. Which in that case, they have the right to cut you off if its obvious you are tethering on a constant basis.
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$30 bucks a month for tethering is ridiculous unless you plan on being tethered for days on end.
The rooted tether works perfectly on my Nexus, to connect laptops, my DSi, friends iphones/ipod touches etc and is best of all free.
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Nevertheless, there is a difference between what the terms and conditions might forbid, and what you might get away with only because it is selectively enforced at the carrier's discretion. From Sprint's point of view, reading the agreement you sign, you might be considered to be cheating them out of payment for a premium service. You might think that "ridiculous," but you signed a contract.
I know about under-the-table, rooted tethering and hotspot creation. I can go to the dev forums and read about that if and when I need to. My question is about the business terms and process for following the contract.
The hotspot is $29.99 a month. You can turn it on and off all you want. If you only use it for the weekend, that's all they charge you for. I do it like twice a month with evo. I just chat with them and it takes like 3 mins. Most of the time I use USB tethering. I have 2.2 and cant root yet so I use PDAnet. Awesome little program. I have a good 4G so I use the hell out of it.
I've talk to sprint about it and the USB and Bluetooth tethering is fine. Free
Use PDAnet and it will work 4G and 3G.
If I plan to use the PS3 or Wii. Ill chat with a rep and turn the WiFi Hub on for a few days.

3g Mobile Hotspot

So I found a patch that lets you use the 3g mobile hotspot for free. I was just wandering if anyone else has tried it, and if so were you ever charged for anything extra on your bill.
I like being able to use my phone with Infrastructure Wifi but dont want to be charged for something I can do for free.
When I say 3g Mobile Hotspot I mean the app that comes with the droid 2 originally and also uses your phone in infrastructure.
Here is the site I found the patch on: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/5156-tbh-droid-3g-hotspot-nvram-hack.html
Why not just use the free wifi tether apk provided by google?
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This is in the Droid 2 information directory but I think the link is to droidforums. Anyway thanks for the link I haven't tried it myself though.
komputerfreek said:
Why not just use the free wifi tether apk provided by google?
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Because this allows for actually using Infrastructure mode instead of just Ad Hoc.
And I was just wandering if anyone has used this and not recieved any flak from Verizon? Rather not use this for a month and get an extra 50 dollars added to my bill.
i have verizon since crackberry 8130 was cool with no-pay tethering and i've used my droid eris for tethering and my data was at 1.4gb one month with no vz flack. haven't had usb tethering on my d2. I am curious about getting wifi hotspot enabled.
Renegade8100 said:
i have verizon since crackberry 8130 was cool with no-pay tethering and i've used my droid eris for tethering and my data was at 1.4gb one month with no vz flack. haven't had usb tethering on my d2. I am curious about getting wifi hotspot enabled.
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I downloaded Barnicle Wi-Fi tethering and it works decently. However, after downloading PDAnet, all I do now is USB tether. It much more efficient and stays connected. Barnicle would sometimes flak off and get down to 0kbs but haven't had that problem with PDA.

Wifi Tether on Droid X now free!

The FCC has ruled that charging $20/month for wifi tethering was illegal and fined Verizon 1.25 million for charging us that fee. I ran Barnacle tether on my Droid X and used it as a hotspot for my Nook Color. I didn't get the Verizon $20/month screen. Sweeeet!
http://gizmodo.com/5930610/verizon-...u-to-pay-20-for-tethering-anymore?tag=verizon
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DrSarcasmo said:
The FCC has ruled that charging $20/month for wifi tethering was illegal and fined Verizon 1.25 million for charging us that fee. I ran Barnacle tether on my Droid X and used it as a hotspot for my Nook Color. I didn't get the Verizon $20/month screen. Sweeeet!
http://gizmodo.com/5930610/verizon-...u-to-pay-20-for-tethering-anymore?tag=verizon
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Not the case today...I'm getting that very page telling me I have to pay up if I want to tether...and I'm rooted.
Verizon probably won't release an update just to remove the inability to tether on the Droid X, I doubt they're under that much legal pressure.
You might want to try calling Verizon with the information from the FCC and see if they will add tethering to your plan, free of charge.
If they do follow through with the ruling --leave it to big red to always find a loophole -- it will probably be on upcoming devices.
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Been using FoxFi for a good amount of time now already unrooted with no issues.
Figures! After I got duped into the share everything plan too.
::sigh::
This is what happens when you dont research.
The tbh tether hack is obviuosly still valid, so why bother with a market app that may or may not work?
Just use the tbh hack, now that its legal verizon cant do squat. I believe you can file a complaint with the fcc if you really want. I know i would.
Google search: tbh wug
RESEARCH before dl the file there are a couple dif versions make sure its for your phone.
editfornoobs: With this hack you wont ever run into the verizon redirect page
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621-rooted Tether options
I acquired a DroidX already OTA to 621. I got it rooted etc and have been running SteelDroid and 621_Modded_1.0_kY-Signed.zip.
SteelDroid allows me to use Wifi Tether fine, but USB Tether does not work.
kY-Mod does not have USB Tether (from Settings/Networks) but it has "3G Wifi Hotspot" built in. This redirects me to some VZ DUN crap page. But if I run Wifi Tether (aka Barnacle aka Wireless Tether) the 3G Wifi Hotspot fires off in the background. No wireless tethering working, plus it breaks my PagePlus programming until I reboot.
I'm wondering if anyone is satisified with USB or Wireless tethering on 621 rooted... ? I'm guessing that THB Hack still works even on 621 and that is the only way?
(consequently, I've been trying to remove "3G Wifi Hotspot" but it seems embedded in Settings.apk.)
Thanks!
Theres no reason the tbh hack shouldnt work. Just do some research and find the appropriate version.
Its been a couple years for me since I installed it but have used it on : d2,d2g,dx,dx2.
IF you are getting the V.zon redirect page its pretty obvious this hack is still the way to go.... why pay for an app from playstore?
If you are running a custom rom PLEASE research these things before you go and install something like this.
this will require bootstrap or cwm to install, or rom manager.
GL !!
Sorry to bump an old thread. I work for vzw. Just an FYI, if you call asking for us to add it for free, we can't. There's no way to do so. If we add the mhs feature, there's a charge, and no way around.
The thing is, that fine was imposed on Verizon by the FCC for charging certain 4G LTE customers for tethering. They bought a certain frequency spectrum and the FCC added it into the contract that they couldn't charge for certain things like tethering. I believe it's only in a few markets and doesn't have any effect on 3G (like our beloved Droid X)
I looked into the case to see if somehow I could use it against Cricket a few months back, but after reading how the contract was worded, the actual viability of me starting an uprising with Cricket customers became nil. Verizon still has the full right to charge for tethering so long as your phone doesn't run on this frequency spectrum. Sorry guys
Turns out this isn't just asinine, it violates an FCC regulation. You see, Verizon owns a special segment of spectrum at 700 MHz. The purchase came with a rule: Verizon had "to allow customers to freely use the devices and applications of their choosing." But Verizon turned around and broke the rule anyway. To help set things right, Verizon also accepted a $1.25 million fine.
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That's the 4G spectrum they bought.

Tethering to Router

Hello Everyone,
I was recently got the Idea of buying a 4G LTE router from Verizon to share my data because I have unlimited on our federal government plan. We want to test out this out right now until we can later buy cradlepoint devices. I was wondering if I could tether my phone to my new wireless router the ASUS RT-N66R which does support 3G/4G. The router is on the latest firmware currently. I spent hours trying to get it to connect until 2 things worked for me. If I put the router into Repeater mode I can get a signal off my phone using wifi tether. That's a Motorola Droid 4 Rooted on 4.1.2 which I would like to use to tether full time to the router. For some reason I can't tether USB to the router but wifi to router works Now when I used my company phone we pay for hotspot and tethering well I turned tethering on it did not work. The Tethering from phone to the router worked when I put in *99***9# I don't understand why but it worked and it was fast. I also was using a galaxy S4. So I was wondering if anyone had a solution to me using my personal phone to share data but I need to get the USB tethering to work I don't know if anyone knows a bypass to use the official usb tether. All help is appreciated.
ATHORNFAM2 said:
Hello Everyone,
I was recently got the Idea of buying a 4G LTE router from Verizon to share my data because I have unlimited on our federal government plan. We want to test out this out right now until we can later buy cradlepoint devices. I was wondering if I could tether my phone to my new wireless router the ASUS RT-N66R which does support 3G/4G. The router is on the latest firmware currently. I spent hours trying to get it to connect until 2 things worked for me. If I put the router into Repeater mode I can get a signal off my phone using wifi tether. That's a Motorola Droid 4 Rooted on 4.1.2 which I would like to use to tether full time to the router. For some reason I can't tether USB to the router but wifi to router works Now when I used my company phone we pay for hotspot and tethering well I turned tethering on it did not work. The Tethering from phone to the router worked when I put in *99***9# I don't understand why but it worked and it was fast. I also was using a galaxy S4. So I was wondering if anyone had a solution to me using my personal phone to share data but I need to get the USB tethering to work I don't know if anyone knows a bypass to use the official usb tether. All help is appreciated.
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not sure If I fully understand, but with the 4G LTE router, You can use it with a regular line that has unlimated data...
hyelton said:
not sure If I fully understand, but with the 4G LTE router, You can use it with a regular line that has unlimated data...
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I wanted to buy it at Verizon but they said it has to be on a new share data plan or I have to turn my unlimited data into a 12gb plan which isn't happening. They said I can't switch devices either.
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
I wanted to buy it at Verizon but they said it has to be on a new share data plan or I have to turn my unlimited data into a 12gb plan which isn't happening. They said I can't switch devices either.
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That is true. Using it your current method is the way to go.
hyelton said:
That is true. Using it your current method is the way to go.
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Yeah. Well I bought a Asus 66u router so it supports 4g but do you know how to USB tether it without using the official USB tether
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
I wanted to buy it at Verizon but they said it has to be on a new share data plan or I have to turn my unlimited data into a 12gb plan which isn't happening. They said I can't switch devices either.
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Yeah. Well I bought a Asus 66u router so it supports 4g but do you know how to USB tether it without using the official USB tether
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Sadly I dont think there is a way. I`m not sure if there is even a way to do it even if you could offically use usb tether. Why not just use it as an access point? thats pretty much what your doing anyway.
hyelton said:
Sadly I dont think there is a way. I`m not sure if there is even a way to do it even if you could offically use usb tether. Why not just use it as an access point? thats pretty much what your doing anyway.
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I already tested it out did you read my original post? Through my company phone I can use the official USB Tether option to stream 4G through the USB port at full speeds. With my other phone that has unlimited data I use WiFi tether then setup the Router as a repeater or access point to receive the 4G that way. I mean as long as i get 4G I am fine i just wanted the full speeds and all options of the router. if i put the router in access point mode the option are very limited in features.
I was testing on a nexus4 WiFi/Bluetooth/USB tether and the max speed the Bluetooth could connect was like 10kb/s, USB tether was 10.0MB/s and WiFi tether was like 68 or 70MB/s and for some reason the WiFi tether connection varied in the max throughput for some reason... I am not talking about the 4g max speed, but rather the max connection the phone can send out of BT, USB, & WIFI. you might be handcuffing/bottlenecking your connection through USB.

Nexus 6p WiFi tether problems

So I bought a nexus 6p and have rooted it. The reason for rooting is for the tether feature. I'm grandfathered in on Verizon's unlimited data so that's why tethering is a big deal. Each app I try doesn't work but I know I have root access. Help anyone?
The 2 apps I have tried are barnacle and open garden.
Did you try the built in Tether feature? to see if that works, via USB?
I do not have tethering as part of my plan at vzw.
I normally use open garden to ovoid tethering cost.
papasmurph1001 said:
I do not have tethering as part of my plan at vzw.
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You don't need it for this device.
It just works. No need for those other apps.
Won't it charge since I don't have tethering as part of my plan?

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