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I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
dom_b said:
I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
Maybe that "bit more RAM" is necessary to have 2.1 and sense working fine.
But i'm not sure
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
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yes but in my opinion it won't arrive!
instead htc assured froyo for device from genuary 2010 excluding tattoo that exited on november/december 2009 -.-
i'm not talking about hardware that is almost the same but the support won't be the same for these devices...
do not forget wildfire start with a 2.1 upgradeable to 2.2
and the cost is almost the same for both devices...
Not from HTC it won't... but the development team here are almost there anyway so hopefully a fully working ROM will be here soon without the need for HTC!
And I think you're missing my point. Im just saying that the new device is basically the same as the Tattoo. Im not saying sombody should go out now and buy a Tattoo, that would be stupid lol.
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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Coburn64 said:
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
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I couldn't say that any better. 100% agree. I think there are basicly two type of needs/users.
One is what I call the "leisure" user (that could be myself on week ends) who wants a ample web browsing, full multimedia, multiple messaging (SMS's and chat), gaming, and so on. For these users, iPhone 3g/3gs/4, Nexus One, or alike any of both is the choice.
Another one is my so called "working" user (myself monday to friday), when your needs are mostly email (mostly exchange and push), quick browsing, mapping or navigation, shopping lists, to do lists, calendars, reminders, transportation routing or schedule querying, not too ambicious web browsing, some music/sudokuing is well appreciated. For this use, Tattoo-like->Wildfire is simply perfect: does it all, with no excess luggage (weight/size).
I don't know if I should say pitty or shame on HTC for releasing a device that in a very few months will be improved to the obsolecense point. We all know that in consumer technology you will never catch up with the very best, but HTC guys, we should be happy at least for one year. Is it to ask for too much? Did they invent the "decent camera" last week so it is just now that you could include it in your phones, or couldn't you do that on the Tattoo? And cant't you upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2? You HTC want to tell us that you can't do what some cooks on XDA have already done? I am certain that these guys are very well prepared, qualified and smart, no doubt on it, but what they do is some kind of hobby on their spare time, and they are charging not a cent!
Well, my hope like many others, is on these magnificent guys cooking new ROMs for all of us (hopefully we will have a 2.1 or 2.2 fully functional), and as some other dudes already have expressed, Tattoo might well be my last HTC device.
I think tattoo is lack of screen resolution and size of the screen other than it's good if you just work around with roms and install market patched hopefully soon we will have 2.2 or 2.1 fully working custom Roms with market patched and it will be really cool
But htc should do something about tattoo they can't just leave tattoo in blank
don't think on buying a wildfire. haven't you got enough with Tattoo? save some more money and buy a nexus one or an iphone, they are truly speedy and better quality
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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HTC Officially released Android froyo (2.2) update for wildfire in europe. Just check below link,
http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx?type=Others
Soon to india.. wait.
So what do people think now? I am personally swayed to buy the Desire Z, but I would like to see what other people think.
Having watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ, I am pretty impressed by htcsense.com (for the off days that I forget my phone!). The maps app isn't really that smooth...the demo showed it being quite laggy on the Desire HD.
Build quality is great, performance seems smooth, keyboard looks fantastic (no numbers row though =[ ) and the screen looks crisp.
edit: maybe I should have also posted on the Desire HD forum! =P
Bye windows hello android
well im selling my TP2 no more windows for me and putting the rest with my pocket as well for the desire Z. i had doubts but after listening to that guy brag how the phone is... im sold. lol.
i also have a TP2,but i am going to keep it,however i want this phone, i looks sexy and thin, and it has htc sense
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well im selling my TP2 no more windows for me and putting the rest with my pocket as well for the desire Z. i had doubts but after listening to that guy brag how the phone is... im sold. lol.
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i've been fed up with windows mobile for about a year now with my HTC Blackstone...it's simply too old and dated an OS. And WinPho & is simply too locked down and not as flexible as I'd like it to be (I'm so sick of those tiles!).
Android looks like the way to me...and *if* I do want to load up my phone with something bloated and pretty, then I will use the HTC Sense bundled in with that phone...which is tons better than the HTC Sense on Windows Mobile.
The Desire Z looked great to me. Perfect size, build quality is on point, gorgeous keyboard, and very fast. I hope the G2 is the same color as the Desire Z, the G2 looks a bit lighter from the renders on T-Mobile's site.
The Desire HD was a bit of a let down to me. First off, it's not HD. A 4.3 inch screen needs a better resolution than 800x480. The colors on the screen look incredibly washed out compared to the Desire Z. Also is it true that the HD only has a 1250mAh battery?!
Can't wait to get the G2. Goodbye Vibrant.
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i've been fed up with windows mobile for about a year now with my HTC Blackstone...it's simply too old and dated an OS. And WinPho & is simply too locked down and not as flexible as I'd like it to be (I'm so sick of those tiles!).
Android looks like the way to me...and *if* I do want to load up my phone with something bloated and pretty, then I will use the HTC Sense bundled in with that phone...which is tons better than the HTC Sense on Windows Mobile.
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i couldnt agree more. im done with the freezeing and sluggish UI. wp7 is prolly good but its not going to be on my tp2 so i have no reason to keep it. do u know for blackstone if it will be surpported?
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Having watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ, I am pretty impressed by htcsense.com (for the off days that I forget my phone!)
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Looks like HTC have pulled that video off their Youtube account. I wonder why
I am eager to see how the MSM7230 800MHz performs compared to the 1GHz Snapdragon that sits in my Nexus currently. But I already know I will be pre-ordering the Desire Z ASAP. I have been waiting for a high-end qwerty Android phone from HTC for so long. Cant believe its finally here, and its *almost* everything I wanted..
I am a bit annoyed at HTC though, because they have a tendency to do this. The Desire HD has a great unibody construction which gives the phone that extreme high-end feel to it, while the Desire Z is left with a combination of aluminium and plastic finish. Why, I don't know. Also wish they would have put some aluminium love on the keyboard as well, but at least the keyboard looks good otherwise.
Those are probably my only concerns regarding the Desire Z (that, and the lame name). I hope the Z mechanism lasts as well though and wont get sluggish over time.
Anyway, its as close to perfect for me as any other phone has ever been so Im picking it up anyways. Just wish HTC would stop holding back when launching new phones. If the MSM7230 800MHz performs well then Im relieved, but if not then I will be mad at HTC for not going for the 1GHz version instead. The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
Now Im just waiting for pre-orders here to show up!
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The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
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is GPU acceleration something that modders can address? also, I'm curious what the GPU does when its not being utilized for acceleration. isn't the very definition of a GPU that its a graphics accelerator? is it that Android uses it for some things like games and video, but not others, like scrolling and webpage rendering?
also, rumor has it that Android 3.0 will implement graphics acceleration, so for a good portion of the time you have your G2 you should enjoy said acceleration (for the record, yes I believe the G2 will be definitely be upgradeable to Gingerbread)
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I am eager to see how the MSM7230 800MHz performs compared to the 1GHz Snapdragon that sits in my Nexus currently. But I already know I will be pre-ordering the Desire Z ASAP. I have been waiting for a high-end qwerty Android phone from HTC for so long. Cant believe its finally here, and its *almost* everything I wanted..
I am a bit annoyed at HTC though, because they have a tendency to do this. The Desire HD has a great unibody construction which gives the phone that extreme high-end feel to it, while the Desire Z is left with a combination of aluminium and plastic finish. Why, I don't know. Also wish they would have put some aluminium love on the keyboard as well, but at least the keyboard looks good otherwise.
Those are probably my only concerns regarding the Desire Z (that, and the lame name). I hope the Z mechanism lasts as well though and wont get sluggish over time.
Anyway, its as close to perfect for me as any other phone has ever been so Im picking it up anyways. Just wish HTC would stop holding back when launching new phones. If the MSM7230 800MHz performs well then Im relieved, but if not then I will be mad at HTC for not going for the 1GHz version instead. The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
Now Im just waiting for pre-orders here to show up!
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Haha same here. This is the qwerty device I've been waiting for!
After I watched the videos I actually got the impression the Desire Z had better build quality than the Desire HD did. I didn't see any brushed aluminum on the HD but it's all over the Z. Reporters even said that most of the Desire Z is made of metal (aluminum) and looks amazing. The HD looked just like the Evo 4G to me, which feels sturdy in hand, but doesn't have that fancy brushed aluminum finish to it.
Arcadia310 said:
Haha same here. This is the qwerty device I've been waiting for!
After I watched the videos I actually got the impression the Desire Z had better build quality than the Desire HD did. I didn't see any brushed aluminum on the HD but it's all over the Z. Reporters even said that most of the Desire Z is made of metal (aluminum) and looks amazing. The HD looked just like the Evo 4G to me, which feels sturdy in hand, but doesn't have that fancy brushed aluminum finish to it.
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Well, regardless of what you think you see, the HD is unibody (meaning its body is made out of one piece of aluminium) and the front is largely made out of glass...
Of course Im basing all this on what Ive heard and seen rather than my personal experience as I havent touched any of these yet. The Desire Z is made out of aluminium and plastic, while the z-hinge is supposedly made out of some sort of metal.. according to a HTC spokesperson, some kind of strong alloy. So at least it seems they have done a good job with that mechanism which is great news, as the Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 tends to get jerky after a while!
I am basically sold on the G2 at this point. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 6 years. A year ago I never would have thought of leaving...but in the last 6 months, I have been running all the Donut/Eclair/Froyo builds on my aging HTC Vogue (KUDOS to DZO, Myn, Incubus26jc and the whole Android Vogue group, their work is amazing) and even an imperfect Donut is better than WinMo. Running their modded ROMS has sold me on stock Android.
Not at all interested in WinPho 7...it looks lame and locked up. I was going to stick with Verizon, but kluging Bing on the Fascinate was the last straw. Any carrier that would do that does not care about Android at all...or their customers. Sense is the only UI I'd consider using...but even Sense is losing steam. Gingerbread is going to blow it away, I think.
At any rate...Tmo seems the only carrier interested in delivering the pure Android experience. They have better plans...and this new phone is going to be amazing, with lots of dev support.
I'm sold...goodbye Verizon.
If you think about it the new sense w/landscape is already developed for Desire Z so it should be a quick port and we would have the new sense and stock. I like to switch back and forth and the keyboard and HSPA+ are very tempting.
My thoughts after the announcement is I want an HTC Desire HD.
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I am basically sold on the G2 at this point. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 6 years. A year ago I never would have thought of leaving...but in the last 6 months, I have been running all the Donut/Eclair/Froyo builds on my aging HTC Vogue (KUDOS to DZO, Myn, Incubus26jc and the whole Android Vogue group, their work is amazing) and even an imperfect Donut is better than WinMo. Running their modded ROMS has sold me on stock Android.
Not at all interested in WinPho 7...it looks lame and locked up. I was going to stick with Verizon, but kluging Bing on the Fascinate was the last straw. Any carrier that would do that does not care about Android at all...or their customers. Sense is the only UI I'd consider using...but even Sense is losing steam. Gingerbread is going to blow it away, I think.
At any rate...Tmo seems the only carrier interested in delivering the pure Android experience. They have better plans...and this new phone is going to be amazing, with lots of dev support.
I'm sold...goodbye Verizon.
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Good choice. The G2 is definitely going to bring attention to T-Mobile. I think people are getting tired of all these Touchwiz/Motorblur phones and want Stock android. Like you said it seems that only T-Mobile cares about this. Verizon only cares about money and exploits Android to fill their pockets.
Arcadia310 said:
Good choice. The G2 is definitely going to bring attention to T-Mobile. I think people are getting tired of all these Touchwiz/Motorblur phones and want Stock android. Like you said it seems that only T-Mobile cares about this. Verizon only cares about money and exploits Android to fill their pockets.
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lol well, make no mistake, t-mobile cares just as much about making money as verizon does. they're just trying to carve out a niche in the market for "with google." that's their selling point for the G2. verizon's selling point is their network, which I think we can all agree is the best (in terms of coverage). they don't need to exploit a niche market because they're super mainstream, so they have the luxury of adding even more to their bottom line by making deals with companies like microsoft, i.e. the Bing deal
seems that the Desire Z and HD haven't won over everybody...but it is still quite popular (this is the Desire Z forum afterall)...I was thinking of buying it on the play.com website...but does anyone know if they do free shipping to Australia?
skulk3r said:
seems that the Desire Z and HD haven't won over everybody...but it is still quite popular (this is the Desire Z forum afterall)...I was thinking of buying it on the play.com website...but does anyone know if they do free shipping to Australia?
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Sucks for them. Those people won't be happy until the first dual-core 1.5Ghz phone with 400ppi and built in toaster gets announced. Even though they could not use that kind of speed...
Why don't you go on their website and see?
j.books said:
lol .............. verizon's selling point is their network, which I think we can all agree is the best (in terms of coverage). they don't need to exploit a niche market because they're super mainstream, so they have the luxury of adding even more to their bottom line by making deals with companies like microsoft, i.e. the Bing deal
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don't be to sure of verizon's network being that great - a) the more users on a network, the slower the network and that is the down side to verizon's network - they sell that network too well. But b) as far as coverage, don't underestimate Tmo's network or partnership carriers. Every year i travel with a couple of partner company reps to visit suppliers & clients in upstate Vermont (2 miles south of the canadian border), northwest texas, new mexico & oklahoma. One is with verizon & the other on AT&T (yeah i know AT&T is weak), but whenever we're somewhere rural, the verizon phone drops all bars while my tmo still has 1-2 - leaving Derby, VT and heading south, we're talking a 90 - 100 mile stretch that's pretty desolate going into low foothills - but the last time, my verizon buddy had to use my phone to finish a 20 minute call.
we've gone thru this 3 years running, whether we're in VT, New Mex, Tx or Oklahoma and every year he comments he needs to look at Tmo for his company. While Tmo may not own the entire network, they've been smart in partnering with a lot of the small carriers.
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Any of you guys plan to get a new phone? With all the problems/issues i have with my Hero, I think it's time to get a new phone.
I'm waiting for the Nexus S, then I'll (sadly) sell my Hero...
I recentenly received a Htc Desire Z for my birthday and my mom says I need to sell it. But I don't want to because it has such good memories
I'm really considering the venue pro from dell and give W7 try. I'm not letting go android yet but W7 seems promissing.
BISDAKinLA said:
I'm really considering the venue pro from dell and give W7 try. I'm not letting go android yet but W7 seems promissing.
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I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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Any of you guys plan to get a new phone? With all the problems/issues i have with my Hero, I think it's time to get a new phone.
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Desire HD
Also, what problems do you have with the Hero? This is by far the best phone I have ever owned.
f_padia said:
I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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i think its too early to criticize the OS granted it just came out couple of months ago and I'm sure there are plenty of updates along the run.
Zebwen said:
Desire HD
Also, what problems do you have with the Hero? This is by far the best phone I have ever owned.
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problem connecting to bluetooth on my car or any device
it takes forever to call someone by pressing the people button
weather not showing on time widget
LAG
I don't know if rooting my phone solves most of my issues above.
f_padia said:
I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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You can change the orange tiles you know? To answer the original post, i'll be getting either a Samsung omnia 7 or a desire hd next month. Most probably the omnia 7 though, just because I love how simplistic wp7 is and how its so different from all the other OS'.
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I can guarantee that rooting your phone and loading a froyo rom will undoubtedly fix the bluetooth problem. I had the 2.1 official update until a few days back and then rooted and loaded the FroydVillain 1.6 rom. Previously I could pair with my Nokia BH-504 headphones, but when using them on a call they would hang due to a software incompatibility of the official ROM with the BT stack of the headphones.
Now they work perfectly. So will your car BT. I cannot be 100% sure, but I'm pretty confident on a 95%.
Your other problems with the phone are lag related. On Froyo the phone flies. No more lag, the Froydvillain rom has a overclock/underclock utility to ensure maximum performance with even better battery life. Trust me. Use it.
And if you have the 2.1 update then there is an almost 1-click root method on the villainrom.co.uk forum.
I wanted to get the Desire HD but because of the stock issues with carriers, just went to o2 and got my self a Htc HD 7 and just loving it
I havent used a windows phone before but i think Microsoft has done a decent job, although a software update will go long way with more apps in the market will help as well
guys the 4:3 inch screen phones are goody, dont even feel like using my comp any more.
I'm due to upgrade my GSM Hero on January 4th. I'll definitely miss it but I always like to get a new handset come upgrade time.
I'm currently torn between the Desire HD and Galaxy S, however both of them have issues that bother me. The main ones being:
Desire HD - Battery life is reported to be very poor. Speaker quality not great. Possibly a bit too big also. LCD screen not as good as Samsung AMOLED.
Galaxy S - No Sense UI. Suffers lag out the box (fixed with custom ROMs and tweaks). Also quite a platsicy phone compared to the HTCs I'm used to. Looks like an iPhone 3GS. Also, it doesn't bode well for Samsung when XDA members can fix things they themselves can't!
I'm almost tempted to wait it our for the new series of dual-core Android handsets like the LG Star / new Moto phone but I'm not sure if / when they will be released in the UK. The Galaxy S II and Nexus 2 are tempting too but again, it's a case of if / when they are released in the UK.
One thing is for sure though, I'll definitely be sticking with Android.
BISDAKinLA said:
i think its too early to criticize the OS granted it just came out couple of months ago and I'm sure there are plenty of updates along the run.
problem connecting to bluetooth on my car or any device
it takes forever to call someone by pressing the people button
weather not showing on time widget
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I don't know if rooting my phone solves most of my issues above.
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Root your phone. If your planning on replacing it anyway, and hate it this much, just root it. Tehres lots of one-click root tools now. So do that, then install clockworkmod recovery, and install a decent ROM. DONE.
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Root your phone. If your planning on replacing it anyway, and hate it this much, just root it. Tehres lots of one-click root tools now. So do that, then install clockworkmod recovery, and install a decent ROM. DONE.
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Thanks, I'll try to root my phone this weekend.
I was thinking of upgrading my Hero as well and was planning on getting the Nexus S but that has left me very underwhelmed so I'm not going to bother. There's nothing else out there that I'd be willing to spend my hard earned on.
I think many of us wanted the nexus s.....not sure now
I'm gonna change it for the Nexus S in january. The Hero has been great but its time for something new
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Have ditched my Hero
Hi Guys,
After lots of fun with my Hero and the great ROMs that are around here made it more fun.
Today I became the proud owner of the Desire HD how great is this huge screen, and the speed. It makes the Hero look so obsolete!
Still this was my best phone ever! Androided and rooted for life thanks to my Hero.
Ofcourse going to root my Desire HD!
It seems as though the Desire HD is the upgrade of choice from the Hero.
Hopefully us Canadians will get a version that will support our 3G bands soon
I got sick of waiting for updates and waiting for Arabic language support , so I bought an iPhone 4 . I still have the htc hero and I will keep it for one more year .
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Ordered the Desizre Z earlier
Not sure what to do with this, maybe keep it and take it out when there's a chance I could lose/damage my phone, or sell it to envirofone or something for about £90 (which will also pay my early cancellation fee for Vodafone)
I just got the HTC Incredible S a week ago and while I was checking local ads online I saw that someone is willing to trade his Atrix for my HTC.
The Atrix specs seems to be great because of the Tegra 2 but then again the screen brightness and colors seems to be washed out compared to the Incredible Super-LCD. Also the Motoblur crap turns me off but either Sense or Motoblur it doesn't really matters because I use Launcher Pro. I know that the Atrix can be rooted and the Incredible can't (at least not when it's S-ON). I want to be able to use custom ROMS and be able to update to Gingerbread.
How is the Atrix on day to day use? How is the screen? Can we remove the crap that comes with the phone so it actually feels like a dual core? I really like my HTC and I don't want to make a bad move...
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I just got the HTC Incredible S a week ago and while I was checking local ads online I saw that someone is willing to trade his Atrix for my HTC.
The Atrix specs seems to be great because of the Tegra 2 but then again the screen brightness and colors seems to be washed out compared to the Incredible Super-LCD. Also the Motoblur crap turns me off but either Sense or Motoblur it doesn't really matters because I use Launcher Pro. I know that the Atrix can be rooted and the Incredible can't (at least not when it's S-ON). I want to be able to use custom ROMS and be able to update to Gingerbread.
How is the Atrix on day to day use? How is the screen? Can we remove the crap that comes with the phone so it actually feels like a dual core? I really like my HTC and I don't want to make a bad move...
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I personally recommend the atrix. I mean what does the inspire offer. The atrix does feel like a dual core.
Can't you return the inspire within 30 days of purchase?
RacecarBMW said:
I personally recommend the atrix. I mean what does the inspire offer. The atrix does feel like a dual core.
Can't you return the inspire within 30 days of purchase?
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Incredible s? Can u not read?
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Atrix has a higher resolution. More internal memory as well. 1930 mAH battery compared to the 1400. We'll get 1080p someday.
One thing to consider is the Atrix having an encrypted and locked bootloader.
i'd like to continue on this discussion... although not exatly the same situation...
i need to upgrade my htc legend with BELL and i have the choice of Atrix or the Incredible S...
Coming previously form HTC Touch where i first experienced Windows Mobile computing, the ability of changing ROMS, then ported ANdroid ROMS which imo the best experience of them all with all the hacking/mod abilities...
So now my only criteria is the phone must be an Android phone... because it has such a large user based and hacking community in general...My current HTC Legend, is a great phone especially after the Froyo update, very responsive but its lacking the storage capcity...
This is why i'm changing my HTC Legend which is still stock ... i read about rooting it but it was a bit too complicated to root it without going through hoops and loops . So I didnt bother... and im running out of space
I've read a few reviews about incredible and atrix... and although the atrix looks superior on paper... i wasnt impressed by the motoblur and the few videos i saw...
The Motorola Atrix hardware is futureproof but only if Motorola decide to release new upgrades to take advantage of the hardware... i heard some bad things that based on history, i shouldnt bet on getting upgrades... is this true? If i'm not getting the upgrades from Motorola, this is why i think the hacking community plays an important role to get the best out of this wonderful piece of hardware ( like the HTC Touch in its time ). Apart from the wonderful beedfed up hardware ... i havent seen anything good... in fact i saw a few threads about rebooting problems, issues...etc and bloatware , not being able to install non market apk and motoblur ( which i only saw in the 1st generation motorola blur in the android 1.5 phone cant recall the name of the phone)
The Incredible S seems to be a more stable phone and i personally like the SENSE UI and HTC in general. I havent seen a lot of negative reviews or problems. COming form the HTC family, i tend to trust it more than Motorola. The 8MP cam is a plus but the inability to root is sad... at least some dev are working on it ...
bottomline, i can live without rooting the IS in the short term or with a rooted stable Atrix which i can customize and change the UI to put something similar to the SENSE UI ( weather and launcher). is there such a thing?
Comrades,
I am coming to the end of my contract just in time for the Sensation..
I love my HD2 (android) but a few wee things annoy me like low call voice (switched on and off speaker, only works for that call) and battery drain.
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
Sensation obviously, but i would wait for the gsmversion of the evo3d(if that one still comes)
I was excited about the sensation coming to t mobile as well..........
Until I saw the specs of the SGS2 and sensation side by side.
I hate sense (on android) and touchwiz but when you look at the specs against one another its ridiculous...
HTC really dropped the ball with the sensation and to be honest you'd be better off getting the Sensation from T-mobile selling it, buying an HD2 and have some money left over
Either that or an SGS2 (27th may on Tmo)
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lol if I'd actually paid attention when reading your post I'd have seen that you already have an HD2...
If its the newer version of sense you want then you'd be better with the sensation as its going to have the extra RAM to deal with the memory hogging abomination that is HTC Sense.....
(I hate sense, in case you hadnt noticed)
robertsmith1873 said:
Comrades,
I am coming to the end of my contract just in time for the Sensation..
I love my HD2 (android) but a few wee things annoy me like low call voice (switched on and off speaker, only works for that call) and battery drain.
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
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Hi,
when I read your post,I went here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2828&id2=2842
Very little difference,apart from camera megapixels and RAM.
I,m erring on the side of Sensation,because of the camera...
Sensation hands down!
malybru said:
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Very little difference,apart from camera megapixels and RAM.
I,m erring on the side of Sensation,because of the camera...
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As a Photographer
I would not get too bothered with camera MP density. The Iphones camera is **** hot @ 5MP.
The EVO 3D sound good, more RAM and a friggin 3D screen………..but the back of it is ugly.
If you wait for the next phone to arrive you would never have a phone. LOL.
Personally I'm going to keep my HD2 going until I find out about the SGSII coming to T-Mobile. I'm also due an upgrade and I just don't know if I want to use it on the Sensation with the SGSII out there. Luckily my HD2 does everything I need so no rush here. Will probably wait to see them both in person in a couple months. SGSII should be ROM'd by then and we will know more about Sensation and if can be ROM'd.
robertsmith1873 said:
Comrades,
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
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Well generally, custom roms are faster than stock roms. E.g. Our custom rom of the desire hd is faster than a desire hd running its stock rom. However seeing as the sensation is per say 2x the performance of the HD2, the sensation running on its stock rom will more likely be better than the HD2 running a custom rom based on the sensation.
dont know if the qHD 960x540 will be support in near future?
GS2 hardware is good with 1 gb ram, but dont how good is the GPU?
Yes the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.7 is fast,stable and next to boyppc-shiftpda gingersense.s v20 it is the best rom in my opinion
i know what you are going through... i love my HD2 but that Pyramid looks amazing in its own. What im doing is just keeping my HD2 and will put the ROM on it when a cook like Imilka figures out a nice port of it or the MyTouch 4G Slide ROM. Im always looking for the latest ROM on my phone and with the HD2 i can do that now. If i got the Pyramid I know i would be anxious for hacks to come for it. Once my HD2 craps out that would be my first choice because HTC makes a great phone, Im leary of Samsung because of all the update problems that happens with it so far on Tmo... Im actually trying out a EVO 3D ROM < Kingdom > now and its been running pretty smooth. Well hopefully this gives you some insight on your choice...
Lawl this update thing has become much too dramatic. xD
It's not samsung that's slowing down these updates or giving slow updates, it's the carriers. xD
Look at samsung, they released GB a month or two/three if you count the leaks. That's like the second or third phone to get GB officially, aside from the nexus one and nexus s? Which are google phones so of course they'd get it first. Samsung doesn't handle the updates for a T&t, verizon, sprint or t-mo, they don't. So they've done their job, it's all up to the carriers to finish this up.
thats only partially true..
the carriers do work with Samsung and Google to get out the updates but I work for Tmobile and its not an Over the Air Update on the Galaxy S phones. The updates are through a website that Samsung set up that you download it while synced to a pc and the updates so far have caused more bugs and headaches than they have been worth..
of course thats for peeps that wait for official updates, not for us who mod and use this site.
not saying by any means that its a horrible phone, just not my choice personally thats all...
everyone has thier own opinions and i have just always had great luck with HTC is all...
I would go for EVO 3D. Not only because it is better in everything compared to the Sensation and all that 3D bull****, but mostly because it looks fabulous. Best looking HTC ever in my opinion.
i would go for the Evo 3D aswell ,
apparently is will come to Europe , when it does , i'll be first in line to get 1
conantroutman said:
I was excited about the sensation coming to t mobile as well..........
Until I saw the specs of the SGS2 and sensation side by side.
I hate sense (on android) and touchwiz but when you look at the specs against one another its ridiculous...
HTC really dropped the ball with the sensation and to be honest you'd be better off getting the Sensation from T-mobile selling it, buying an HD2 and have some money left over
Either that or an SGS2 (27th may on Tmo)
Edit;
lol if I'd actually paid attention when reading your post I'd have seen that you already have an HD2...
If its the newer version of sense you want then you'd be better with the sensation as its going to have the extra RAM to deal with the memory hogging abomination that is HTC Sense.....
(I hate sense, in case you hadnt noticed)
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Also if you play games a Lot, then the Sensation is a better bet, the Adreno 220 is faster than the rest of the GPU's found in phones ...
regards.
Lawl where did you get that info bout the adreno 220 being faster?
The benchmarks of the 1.5ghz model? Mind you it's running a dual core 1.5 ghz, meaning two 1.5 ghz compared to a 1ghz/1.2ghz dual core. So what does that say?
Point being it was the 1.5 ghz model, not the 1.2ghz own, so we can't say which is better right now. Plus we have to remember the sgs 2 caps it's frame rate.
Anyways, as far as GPU's are concerned however, I'm pretty sure the power vr sgx543 is the best right now. Sad samsung didn't make that move.
Thanks chaps for your points, all valid.
SGS2 does look to have the hardware and i know i will up set myfellow Scot, but I LIKE SENCE...when i look at the screen it tells me what i need to know. then its back into the pocket..
I will now goto Tmob on 16th and haggle a free phone with more calls and data or threaten to leave..........wish me luck.
Thanks again.