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Hey guys check out the Linpack scores they are getting on a Nexus One running Froyo.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
450% faster than 2.1??? Seriously? ;o
I hope we can get to a point where it's easier to get the stock roms on the hero and other phones. Maybe the mode 'module' design I've heard discussed will help things along.
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tbh im think this is whats holding up 2.1. i think the hero will get 2.2 and sprint will skip 2.1 all together, makes sense if you think about it.
"Sorry, your HTC Hero will not support the Froyo update. Please buy the HTC Superhero due in Q4 2010."
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"Sorry, your HTC Hero will not support the Froyo update. Please buy the HTC Superhero due in Q4 2010."
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it will be ported, bank on that.
fixxxer2008 said:
it will be ported, bank on that.
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Even so, good firmware can't make up for lack of processing power and hardware. It would never run like it's meant to.
Froyo 2.2 Coming Soon as per Sprint!
Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in near future.
As work on finalizing the software is under way, Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in the near future. It also will be available as an upgrade on the recently launched HTC EVO 4G.
With the Android 2.2 upgrade, customers can expect improvements to include the following benefits: updates to user interface, improved EAS Support, improved browser performance, including Flash 10x Support, voice dialing over Bluetooth and application storage on external memory.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...t-expects-to-launch-android-22-in-near-future
Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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Very nice.
Yup finalizing hopefully means that its done and just tweaks left. I would expect to get it some time in July.
Awesome! I wonder who will release it first though, Sprint or the devs at XDA
I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
Voice control via Bluetooth....FINALLY
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I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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HTC works fast . A Google developer said that it would take even less time to implement Sense into Froyo 2.2 since it was mainly native code that implemented into froyo. Or something like that.
As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
muncheroo said:
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
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Exactly
Better to be surprised by the unknown...then to be let down by what you were waiting for.
At least we won't have to wait on Sprint to fumble with a Hero and Moment version, as per their Twitter:
HTC EVO will be updated to Android 2.2; Samsung Moment & HTC Hero will not. Future devices launching w/ 2.1 will be also be updated to 2.2.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I'm assuming Rosie will look exactly the same.
i'm sure we'll see Cyanogen's Froyo on EVO before Sprint releases the Sense Froyo
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Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
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I'm even more of a pessimist. I'd guess we're not going to see it until October at least. But I wish upon a star that I'm wrong!
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I doubt it.
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire.. that new samsung is AOSP based isnt it.. not touchwiz, lets see when Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread officially
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
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absolutely agreed they build really cool phones, but they are indeed not famous for software updates...
2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire..
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when I see that my working colleagues with a HTC legend are still on android 2.1 I doubt a software update in the first year... :\ Although DHD may be (one of their) top phones. But lets hope HTC improves on that, I would even pay for Android version upgrades...
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
in my experience owning HTC handsets with sense, there will only be 1 update during the life time of the gadget. being 2.3 or 3.0, don't expect it to be any time soon, especially when current DHD is not every widely available yet.
I say 6-8 month at least.
Its one annoying aspect of owning HTC sense phone, they are not a software specialist.
However, the fact that Samsung is getting Nexus Two with Gingerbread probably means HTC is under pressure to have at least one cracking phone with 2.3. We can only wait and see if they choose to update DHD or launch a new line.
Really hated Galaxy S and gutted that's what the Nexus Two will be based on
People always say HTC isn't the best with updates... but who is, aside from google with the nexus one?
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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hehehe what about having the phone first
you might do what i'm plaining to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8911576#post8911576
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I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
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I have to diagree.
HTC is the first and biggest androids producer. They made Nexus One which is great when it comes to software support. If anyone they should be setting the standard not dragging the progress. They said it themselves that they wanted to benefit from the "Google Experience", and frankly speaking they are the last brand on earth to have excuses for not keeping up with android progress.
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Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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That doesnt make any sense the os is supposed to be free to anyone to use any overlay or luncher they want to use
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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ooh interesting, that would be stir things up a bit becuase that would mean if samsungs phones are the same as htc (software), then they have to either battle on hardware or price
but no sense
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Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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It's a debunked rumor. AOSP interface has barely changed with Android 2.3
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my point being people buying DHD shouldn't put too much hope in getting gingerbread immediately. DHD hardware is superb and the sense overlay on 2.2 has got lots of great features, and its probably just a matter of time before DHD get rooted and 2.3 be ported over anyway.
I f none of these matters as much as getting 2.3 straightaway, hold on for a couple more weeks and get the Nexus Two is probably a better idea(and wear the pain of a samsung phone, I m not falling for that again)
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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You're the man!
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/11/05/android-2-3-gingerbread-release-november-11/
I bought the Epic to be ahead of the trend... We dont even have 2.2 yet, but 2.3 is coming out.. Who knows when that will be released for the Epic!
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I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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you mean honeycomb..lol..or icecream
anyways..google said that in the future there will be only 1 major release per year.
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I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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6 month you won't get much major progress...from the rumors all the ual cores will be coming next summer anyways..
Either way chances are you won't see Gignerbread on a phone for at least 3 month or so unless its a development phone.
that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.
If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.
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that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.
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No, that is some awesome inspiring news. The faster Gingerbread is released, the faster the Galaxy Tab gets gingerbread. The faster Galaxy Tab and other phones receive gingerbread, the faster it will be ported to our phone regardless of whether Samsung has official plans to port it or not.
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If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.
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You probably wont need to. The drivers for the Nexus S will probably work with our hardware and that should make porting gingerbread to the other galaxy S phones a lot easier. With a little luck we might have a working gingerbread before some of the HTC phones.
People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.
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People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.
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iono if i got your statement right,,, but i'd rather have a stock build of android on my epic than one thats been made over by samsung or any company for that matter. i understand that android is open and therefore if a company wants to skin or whatever with it then that up to them. it would be nice if there was an option to where we could go the a companies site ie. samsung, htc, sony; and have an option to download a vanilla build of the current os that is out. and it dosent even have to be before they release their version of it. for example with froyo 2.2 ,,, once they start to push it out to us in the states, it would be cool if we could go to sammy's site and download an alternative vanilla build. of coarse companies might say that it will take away from the phone as far as features that they built into it or want to implement. but if im paying for a device that is 100% mine, i would atleast like to have some options with it sans root and flash.
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Its not Gingerbread, more like the source....
Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...
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With all these tasty sounding android os names the last os update will be called Fat bastard lol. or weight watchers.
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Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...
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Wait, so for the 99 percent of us that doesn't even have Froyo yet you are inspired by Gingerbread being released? May I please borrow your rose glasses???
2.3 is coming soon, Nexus 2 will be the first phone to get it and it's not expected to come out for another month. They site says it's 2.3 sdk, and 2.2 sdk came out a month and a half before nexus one got the official update
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
First off, here's that link you wanted...
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
I really like that lockscreen in 3.0.
Also I guess its worth speculating over which gingerbread it will get. The rumors about the Droid X update had 2.3.3, but supposedly 2.4 is in the works.
As i said with Froyo, I'll believe this when I see it.
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Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
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I think its "impossible" for us to get sense 3.0 because well its built to run on dual core phones as you see only two phones have been "announced" and not "released" that will run sense 3.0 and both have dual core 1.2 ghz processors and i dont think htc would give us sense 2.0 since sense 2.1 is so similar so if we get sense 2.1 or 2.0 it will be 2.1 because of it's similarities and thats only a slim chance that we will get sense 2.1 because we might stick with out original sense which will be very sad but as the other guy said if the incredible gets sense 3.0 i will also **** myself hehe.
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Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
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Cheers!
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
I would imagine HTC would port Sense 2.0 to the Incredible, rather than working with Sense 1.0. That being said, I've been wrong before.
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
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And the clarification:
"Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will"
Perhaps Sense 2.1.1? Or 2.2?
Odds are we will be on sense 2.0. Engadget just posted an article saying that only the newwer phones will get 3.0 so that's a non-issue. HTC did say we will get gingerbread by end of 2nd qt 2011 so we should be good on that.
The big question is... will be it worth unrooting and loading back on all that bloatware for the 2.3 update?
I'm sure a couple of the devs around here will help all of us not make that decision.
We wont be getting Sense 3 thats for sure, but once again I don't really care what we get since I'm rooted and will always have the best stuff available before stock users
Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
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Hey incubus any chance of that getting ported to our incredibles?
I'm still happy with CM7 so IF we get it I probably won't install it.
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The evo got a leaked version with sense 1.0 so I will just assume that our phones will not receive anything better
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for me, the importang from official 2.3 from htc is, dev could get the driver2 that need for optimizing the kernel and rom (gpu, cam, etc)
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I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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I could be mistaken, but given that you can set S-off, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that you can always flash a custom recovery and then, flash a rooted ROM?
Besides, even if the update is "unrootable"... I have no doubt that smarter people than I will be able to find a way.