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http://www.gadgetsdna.com/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-to-get-android-2-1-and-sense-ui-blessing/3005/
Wonder how long testing will take.
ha, they said "security updates" Im wondering if they are going to add another "perfect spl" in the update so it will weed out the people whom have "rooted" their phones. The same thing that Sony does with their devices.
forget about 2.1 .... Nexus one already have 2.2 update today
What does a Nexus One have to do with the Magic or MyTouch3g?
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What does a Nexus One have to do with the Magic or MyTouch3g?
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Just proving a point. and I agree to a degree. would love to see 2.2 on mytouch 1.2
well #1 2.2 isn't even released yet. #2 Will the device be able to handle it spec wise?
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well #1 2.2 isn't even released yet. #2 Will the device be able to handle it spec wise?
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1) 2.2 (Froyo) is released and already available as update for Nexus One.
2) Cause of Jit, Froyo will most probably run better on our device than Eclair.
Rumors: Android devs said the Google Ion will be getting Froyo.
Ok. I was talking about it being dev for the MT3G.
I would like to see 2.0 on the MT3G to. Im waiting for T-Mobile to release it.
Froyo 2.2 Coming Soon as per Sprint!
Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in near future.
As work on finalizing the software is under way, Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in the near future. It also will be available as an upgrade on the recently launched HTC EVO 4G.
With the Android 2.2 upgrade, customers can expect improvements to include the following benefits: updates to user interface, improved EAS Support, improved browser performance, including Flash 10x Support, voice dialing over Bluetooth and application storage on external memory.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...t-expects-to-launch-android-22-in-near-future
Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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Very nice.
Yup finalizing hopefully means that its done and just tweaks left. I would expect to get it some time in July.
Awesome! I wonder who will release it first though, Sprint or the devs at XDA
I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
Voice control via Bluetooth....FINALLY
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I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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HTC works fast . A Google developer said that it would take even less time to implement Sense into Froyo 2.2 since it was mainly native code that implemented into froyo. Or something like that.
As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
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yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
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Exactly
Better to be surprised by the unknown...then to be let down by what you were waiting for.
At least we won't have to wait on Sprint to fumble with a Hero and Moment version, as per their Twitter:
HTC EVO will be updated to Android 2.2; Samsung Moment & HTC Hero will not. Future devices launching w/ 2.1 will be also be updated to 2.2.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I'm assuming Rosie will look exactly the same.
i'm sure we'll see Cyanogen's Froyo on EVO before Sprint releases the Sense Froyo
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Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
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I'm even more of a pessimist. I'd guess we're not going to see it until October at least. But I wish upon a star that I'm wrong!
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I doubt it.
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire.. that new samsung is AOSP based isnt it.. not touchwiz, lets see when Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread officially
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
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absolutely agreed they build really cool phones, but they are indeed not famous for software updates...
2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire..
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when I see that my working colleagues with a HTC legend are still on android 2.1 I doubt a software update in the first year... :\ Although DHD may be (one of their) top phones. But lets hope HTC improves on that, I would even pay for Android version upgrades...
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
in my experience owning HTC handsets with sense, there will only be 1 update during the life time of the gadget. being 2.3 or 3.0, don't expect it to be any time soon, especially when current DHD is not every widely available yet.
I say 6-8 month at least.
Its one annoying aspect of owning HTC sense phone, they are not a software specialist.
However, the fact that Samsung is getting Nexus Two with Gingerbread probably means HTC is under pressure to have at least one cracking phone with 2.3. We can only wait and see if they choose to update DHD or launch a new line.
Really hated Galaxy S and gutted that's what the Nexus Two will be based on
People always say HTC isn't the best with updates... but who is, aside from google with the nexus one?
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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hehehe what about having the phone first
you might do what i'm plaining to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8911576#post8911576
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I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
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I have to diagree.
HTC is the first and biggest androids producer. They made Nexus One which is great when it comes to software support. If anyone they should be setting the standard not dragging the progress. They said it themselves that they wanted to benefit from the "Google Experience", and frankly speaking they are the last brand on earth to have excuses for not keeping up with android progress.
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Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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That doesnt make any sense the os is supposed to be free to anyone to use any overlay or luncher they want to use
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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ooh interesting, that would be stir things up a bit becuase that would mean if samsungs phones are the same as htc (software), then they have to either battle on hardware or price
but no sense
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Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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It's a debunked rumor. AOSP interface has barely changed with Android 2.3
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my point being people buying DHD shouldn't put too much hope in getting gingerbread immediately. DHD hardware is superb and the sense overlay on 2.2 has got lots of great features, and its probably just a matter of time before DHD get rooted and 2.3 be ported over anyway.
I f none of these matters as much as getting 2.3 straightaway, hold on for a couple more weeks and get the Nexus Two is probably a better idea(and wear the pain of a samsung phone, I m not falling for that again)
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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You're the man!
So Gingerbread (2.3) is here and I wanted to be the first nagging user to ask when we are going to see the port for the Aria?
No asking for ETAs...IOW, whenever they damn well please.
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Gingerbread may be out but the source isn't so no gingerbread for you.
Good things come to those who wait just like grandma's inheritance, uh, I mean cookies.
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Good news most def.
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
Don't know if you guys saw this or not( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-news-gingerbread-2-3-running-on-droid-eris/ ), but punk.kaos got Gingerbread kinda working on the Eris. In terms of power the Eris is sort of a bottom feeder so if it can run on the Eris it definitely can run on the Aria. But we will have to be patient, unless someone knows how to port the source to the Aria. I am loving 6.1 right now, so I can wait for Gingerbread at the moment.
A guy got a hacked port to boot on his HTC Wildfire which is slower than the aria. No this does not mean a port will come to the aria yet.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
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It was also assumed by many that Android 3.0 would be Gingerbread. Instead, Gingerbread is 2.3.
With 3.0, there are rumors of higher end graphics and processor requirements.
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Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
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True. It looks like Liberty/Slide/Legend will be included when CM goes to Android 2.3.
I am not sure about 3.0 though, if it's going to be targeted exclusively at larger, more powerful, higher resolution devices. Time will tell how successfully that stuff will be supported on MDPI devices it's not intended for with 1 1/2 gen processors, even with decent GPUs.
Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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you haven't disappointed us thus far attn1!
keep up the good work
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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That's good news! No one knew until now!
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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I know I'm not going to hold my breath for an official release. Based on what I've been reading on several forums, there have been rumblings that the Aria might not see an official 2.2 (Which quite frankly I had already given up hope on).
Who knows though, perhaps AT&T and HTC decided that since it's deployment on 2.2 was so late, that they would wait until 2.3... or 2.4... 5, or 6.
Either way, thanks for everything devs, CM and Liberated are both great Froyo ROMs, and I've used both without a hitch.
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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Google has already pledged that Nexus One will get Gingerbread, so no issue there.
HTC said back in the beginning of the year that any device launched in 2010 will get upgraded to Froyo, so that includes the AT&T Aria, so we'll definitely get official Froyo for that.
Whether the AT&T Aria will get Gingerbread officially is up in the air, but I'm all but certain that the Gratia will, given that it just launched with 2.2.
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
First off, here's that link you wanted...
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
I really like that lockscreen in 3.0.
Also I guess its worth speculating over which gingerbread it will get. The rumors about the Droid X update had 2.3.3, but supposedly 2.4 is in the works.
As i said with Froyo, I'll believe this when I see it.
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Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
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I think its "impossible" for us to get sense 3.0 because well its built to run on dual core phones as you see only two phones have been "announced" and not "released" that will run sense 3.0 and both have dual core 1.2 ghz processors and i dont think htc would give us sense 2.0 since sense 2.1 is so similar so if we get sense 2.1 or 2.0 it will be 2.1 because of it's similarities and thats only a slim chance that we will get sense 2.1 because we might stick with out original sense which will be very sad but as the other guy said if the incredible gets sense 3.0 i will also **** myself hehe.
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Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
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Cheers!
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
I would imagine HTC would port Sense 2.0 to the Incredible, rather than working with Sense 1.0. That being said, I've been wrong before.
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
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And the clarification:
"Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will"
Perhaps Sense 2.1.1? Or 2.2?
Odds are we will be on sense 2.0. Engadget just posted an article saying that only the newwer phones will get 3.0 so that's a non-issue. HTC did say we will get gingerbread by end of 2nd qt 2011 so we should be good on that.
The big question is... will be it worth unrooting and loading back on all that bloatware for the 2.3 update?
I'm sure a couple of the devs around here will help all of us not make that decision.
We wont be getting Sense 3 thats for sure, but once again I don't really care what we get since I'm rooted and will always have the best stuff available before stock users
Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
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Hey incubus any chance of that getting ported to our incredibles?
I'm still happy with CM7 so IF we get it I probably won't install it.
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The evo got a leaked version with sense 1.0 so I will just assume that our phones will not receive anything better
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for me, the importang from official 2.3 from htc is, dev could get the driver2 that need for optimizing the kernel and rom (gpu, cam, etc)
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I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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I could be mistaken, but given that you can set S-off, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that you can always flash a custom recovery and then, flash a rooted ROM?
Besides, even if the update is "unrootable"... I have no doubt that smarter people than I will be able to find a way.