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1. This is my first custom ROM ever.
2. Adapted for the 91x from same for 61x by keyx (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496283)
3. Major props to fellow Canadian keyx for major instruction and ongoing guidance. Indirect props to all his sources at pdaclan.com and xda-devs.
Done:
1. Dumped IMGFS from HP 910c Factory ROM update (using keyx kitchen).
2. Dumped XIP directly from device.
3. Ported keyx 21198 XIP to 91x using XIPKitchen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443383)
4. Used OEM from 910c factory ROM (with Google Search, Google Maps and VoiceCommander removed)
5. Used SYS from keyx 21198 (except phone.dll and ril.dll from HP 910c factory and 61x-specific modules taken out)
6. Manual XIP ported by keyx
7. Functional ROM kitchen tools in place - tested by successfully building customized WM6.1 ROM
Current status:
- device makes it to OS boot screen (not the first "HP" boot screen but the next one), beeps once and just hangs... never goes any further
- WiFi and phone lights operational, suggesting successful XIP porting?
- can't isolate source problem between OEM, SYS or XIP
This will be based off of keyx's 03-27-09 beta 2.2 build. Once a reliable method is in place, we 910/912/914 owners should be able to benefit from his updates to the 610/612/614.
Please be patient; will post here as soon as its done.
I have cooked many rom the htx advantage ... but I could never switch from one machine to another ...
If you can be your tester!
THANKSSSSSS!!!!!!
This is a great news!! I've been waiting on a cust ROM for iPAQ91X : desperately waiting for this!!
Thanks very much!!!!! ))
I was waiting for this one since ages!
I'll be glad to be one of your testers if you need me to :-D
Gunsfan
sorry
Have been building and flashing many test ROMs for days now... none are making it past the first screen.
We may be better off porting from an entirely new source; I suspect whatever causes the 61x keyx first-boot problem (where users wait for second beep and then must reset frozen device) has just turned into a full-blown show stopper.
in the meanwhile may be you can port 6.1 21042 (if the original rom has a older verson) and may be fitting manila 2d in it.
keyx said:
in the meanwhile may be you can port 6.1 21042 (if the original rom has a older verson) and may be fitting manila 2d in it.
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Yeah I'll give that a shot.
1. Any idea what is causing the first boot issue in your 61x ROM?
2. How exactly did you get your flash.dio file below 80 MB? Mine is 80 MB, and the 20142 for ipaq612 custom ROM I just downloaded is also 80 MB.
1. I have no idea...i will try to do a port from 6.1 to 6.5 when i done exam to see what process involvoed for cross version port
2. I am using pdalcan's rom as template.rom and it is smaller,i think it has to relate to some hex edit to change the mbr
keyx said:
in the meanwhile may be you can port 6.1 21042 (if the original rom has a older verson) and may be fitting manila 2d in it.
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Well, I just successfully ported a WM6.1 21042 ROM for the ipaq 910c. XIPKitchen worked fine; all that is missing is WiFi (and I'll probably just have to stick the appropriate wrlsmgr.exe back in for that to work). IE6 is kind of a nice improvement, as is the removal of VoiceCommander, GSearch and GMaps.
Will tweak a bit and then post.
benjaminries said:
Well, I just successfully ported a WM6.1 21042 ROM for the ipaq 910c. XIPKitchen worked fine; all that is missing is WiFi (and I'll probably just have to stick the appropriate wrlsmgr.exe back in for that to work). IE6 is kind of a nice improvement, as is the removal of VoiceCommander, GSearch and GMaps.
Will tweak a bit and then post.
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Great!! If you need testers, count me in!
benjaminries
you need beta testers for 9xx ipaq? for 6.5 firmware???
roman_n1 said:
benjaminries
you need beta testers for 9xx ipaq? for 6.5 firmware???
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We still need to wait for 6.5, he's working on it, but having an issue loading the ported ROM, gets stuck in first screen...Hopefully he releases the 6.1 cust ROM soon!
tcortinag said:
We still need to wait for 6.5, he's working on it, but having an issue loading the ported ROM, gets stuck in first screen...Hopefully he releases the 6.1 cust ROM soon!
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Don't need beta testers, thanks - anything that seems to work on my end will be released.
As it stands, the WM6.5 ROM is stalled; I'll keep fidling with it, but we may have to just wait for a new build to be released before it is worth much more time investment.
The WM6.1 build 21042 is a nice update because it contains IE6 Mobile. I've got a test ROM cooked but it at least major two bugs, detailed in next post.
Of course it is rather easy to customize the factory build (number 19xxx) without any XIP porting - I can post a release that has Google Maps, Google Search and VoiceCommander removed, and a few odds and ends added. But other than that there are very few benefits.
If people want to help out, there are two things they can do:
- hunt down (on xda-devs and PPCgeeks discussion threads) new sources of WM6.5 ROMS for me to use for porting
- try to find a device ROM from which we can extract a compatible, yet better, rilgsm.dll ...the Ipaq 61x and 91x has a well-known problem where the GSM radio doesn't expose the Cell Tower ID to the OS (limiting the "My Location" feature in Google Maps to use the standard GPS only without cell tower triangulation and preventing the useful operation of other apps like Navizon). I am convinced that this problem stems to the rilgsm.dll file in which HP has not implemented this feature (but HTC certainly has).
pdadb.net says that the 91x and the 61x are both manufactured by Inventec and use a Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) phone controller. If somebody can find a device ROM or just the rilgsm.dll from another phone that uses the same cell radio hardware, we should try cooking that file into our ROMs and see if it enables the desired functionality.
Getting the CNAP feature (a.k.a. Rogers Name Display) would be a bonus as well, but it looks like the Rogers HTC phones do not use the same radio (i.e. Touch Diamond and TyTN use "Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000)").
benjaminries said:
The WM6.1 build 21042 is a nice update because it contains IE6 Mobile. I've got a test ROM cooked but it at least major two bugs, detailed in next post.
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Here are the bugs in my 21042 ROM so far:
BUG 1: WiFi disappears
This is weird - the blue WiFi light begins blinking during first boot and continues through the Welcome tutorial. Then once I reach the first screen, it goes out and the device behaves as though it doesn't have built-in WiFi. The Wireless Manager only shows "Bluetooth" and "Phone" options. Strange, because the SDIO wifi driver is definitely in the OS (it comes up as a network device under "Connections") but there's no interface to enable it.
BUG 2: Storage Card isn't recognized
Simply, whenever I put in a microSD card, the device does nothing. File Explorer shows no Storage Card. Memory CPL shows no Storage Card. Just good old useless iPaq File Store and Bluetooth Neighbourhood
I suspect either I've ported the XIP wrong or I've got some lack of reg entries coming from the new base SYS. But these are show-stoppers for me so I'm inclined not to post until I can at least fix one of them. Will learn to manually port the XIP and see if that helps.
benjaminries said:
Of course it is rather easy to customize the factory build (number 19xxx) without any XIP porting - I can post a release that has Google Maps, Google Search and VoiceCommander removed, and a few odds and ends added. But other than that there are very few benefits.
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Have you tried using this rom with the mods you mentioned but trying to add manila 2d?? That would be a really nice add-on.
Success!
Got the WiFi and Storage Card stuff working in build 21042 by manually porting the XIP (something I've wimped out on until now). Here's the release.
Moving on to another stab at porting keyx's WM6.5!
More success!
I just got a working WM6.5 21198 build for the 91x from keyx - just as I was figuring out the details of my own port of the same (keeping Windows Live modules out of SYS keeps the total modules low enough for G'Reloc to run without integer overflow; on the other hand that might not have been my problem).
I'm merging a dump of keyx's working ROM with my own stuff (some OEM customizations and a few extra SYS packages) to see how that works. But we've at least got something bootable; expect a release today or tomorrow.
Great!
i just tried this. it works great!! thank you. but can you make the X close button even bigger. the problem with the 910c is that the screen is not flused against the corner so it's difficult to hit that buttom sometimes. just nit picking
Thanks for this ROM
benjaminries,
Many thanks for the WM6.5 ROM you worked on. My 910c has been sitting on my desk for several months due to the lack of interest or any ROM updates from HP. (Great little phone with problems HP still has not fixed (datacard issues and POOR battery life). Your update has given me new reasons to begin using the device again. No crashes and no big problems discovered. Again, good work. Only noticed a couple of cosmetic things which are very minior and a lot of "task manager" icons in different folders. The one thing is did do was map "task manager" to the "voice commander" button on the side of the phone. Since this beast is known to suck up juice it's just a way to stay on top of things. Right now just using it on GSM network setting and getting decent battery life. Will start to see what happens when I set it to high-speed network. But again, no problems what-so-ever with your ROM. (Using 910c as limited use phone and heavy Exchange 2007)
SuperJustKitchen v0.7 Released.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
For more information on the kitchen, please read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4288668
Word of warning:
None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald, Opal, Hermes AND Artemis. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
(I'm no longer updating each thread separately for each device but just updating my site and posting the release info here.)
ivanmmj said:
Now with Opal support!!
Wait until you see the announcement on my site to know that it's been updated/uploaded.
Word of warning:
SJK v.5 has had some major changes. None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald and Opal. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
Take not that there are many versions of certain packages. Let me know if the older ones are close enough to the new ones so that I can delete the old ones.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
At the moment, consider SJK v0.5 to be a test... Don't expect to have THAT many builds when it goes into v0.5.5
Right now it has the following builds available to you:
21054 (wm6.1)
21864 (COM2 - old style gui - wm6.5)
23064 (COM4 - newer gui - wm6.5)
5.5 will only have 21054, 21864, and 23064 unless something new gets released.
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Thanks for providing us a new kitchen for opal. Can u give me a tutorial on using this kitchen for opal. Full explaination plz
It works exactly the same as your other Ervius based kitchen. You can follow that tutorial as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4446173&postcount=3
The real difference is that I do the porting of new builds and the addition of new EXT packages for you.
(Granted, I've added more options under the Extra Buttons section, but you can go in there and figure out what most things are from their names and descriptions.)
Thanks BUT....
Thanks for your work man BUT: When i make my rom everything works Except the HOME settings and COMM manager,it is the same thing with BesFen kitchen,sometimes it works and then sometimes it does not.
I have tried and tried but nothing seems to help,i give up. I hope you guys can figure it out. Thanks.
What Home settings?
As far as the COMM Manager, don't choose the Comm manager in the EXT list. It's meant for older devices (like the Herald). Don't choose a Comm Manager at all. The OEM still has a comm manager built in. It will automatically insert a working comm manager.
Sorry i meant when you go to start/settings/Today does not work and i did not choose the comm manager, the one that comes with the oem does not work. Like i said sometimes they work and then it does not.
theglen35 said:
Sorry i meant when you go to start/settings/Today does not work and i did not choose the comm manager, the one that comes with the oem does not work. Like i said sometimes they work and then it does not.
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Weird... The Today works fine on the Herald and it's part of the SYS, not the OEM. Are adding or not adding the MyCPL?
So the Comm Manager, even the one that's made FOR the phone has problems?
No i left out MyCpl. What is that BTW. The same thing happens in BesFen kitchen but it works when you put the PP on 12,anything higher it will not work.But i tried it on 12 & 16 PP in your kitchen but it does not work at all.Also when using file explorer and when selecting a theme when Today is working i have to long press or hold down the stylus to select something.
theglen35 said:
No i left out MyCpl. What is that BTW. The same thing happens in BesFen kitchen but it works when you put the PP on 12,anything higher it will not work.But i tried it on 12 & 16 PP in your kitchen but it does not work at all.Also when using file explorer and when selecting a theme when Today is working i have to long press or hold down the stylus to select something.
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So it happens with BesFen's kitchen as well? The Opal is so strange and different than the other devices when it comes to cooking, I wonder what other changes I must make to the kitchen to get it work properly. At the moment, without an Opal, I can only make a kitchen as good as BesFen can when it comes to proper NB creation. Does anyone have a current WORKING kitchen for the Opal that doesn't have these problems? If so, point me to it and I will study the differences.
As a side note: Doesn't the Opal use myCPL by default? If it does, then you MUST choose it.
If you know PhamQuang you can ask him what kitchen he uses,his roms are usually buggy but i think the last one he made was good and everything works smooth.
You can find more detailed info on the kitchen in the main thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545572&highlight=superjustkitchen
theglen35, I'll go ahead and try to contact PhamQuang. Thanks.
ivanmmj said:
As a side note: Doesn't the Opal use myCPL by default? If it does, then you MUST choose it.
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Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
BesFen said:
Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
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Hey BesFen THANKS very much for making a kitchen for the Opal,I have made many roms with it and except for a few problems it works good.But i think you should try and get all the bugs and problems worked out so we don't have to rely or wait for PhamQuang or PDAVIET to get any roms.
Because of the problems i am using Opals original WM 6.1 until you guys can figure it out.
theglen35 said:
Hey BesFen THANKS very much for making a kitchen for the Opal,I have made many roms with it and except for a few problems it works good.But i think you should try and get all the bugs and problems worked out so we don't have to rely or wait for PhamQuang or PDAVIET to get any roms.
Because of the problems i am using Opals original WM 6.1 until you guys can figure it out.
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If your ROM can boot, it mean the kitchen work great.
The problem that you figure is not causes by the kitchen, it's pure something in the ext or OEM or SYS, try to read more reference from others device thread, I can't fix it since I don't have opal for test it, I am sorry about that.
ivanmmj said:
Now with Opal support!!
Wait until you see the announcement on my site to know that it's been updated/uploaded.
Word of warning:
SJK v.5 has had some major changes. None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald and Opal. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
Take not that there are many versions of certain packages. Let me know if the older ones are close enough to the new ones so that I can delete the old ones.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
At the moment, consider SJK v0.5 to be a test... Don't expect to have THAT many builds when it goes into v0.5.5
Right now it has the following builds available to you:
21054 (wm6.1)
21864 (COM2 - old style gui - wm6.5)
23064 (COM4 - newer gui - wm6.5)
5.5 will only have 21054, 21864, and 23064 unless something new gets released.
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thanks ivan u've done great... thanks for having opal too in ur kitchen.. hopfully everything work great like the herald... ur the best... i thought i'll never see u since my phone is not the wing no more its touch viva now.. cuz i like wat u done for herald lots cooks already doing different roms... it is impressive... hopfully i'll start my own too... for here... thanks alot ivan keep it up...
BesFen said:
Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
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Yea, if the Opal comes with the MyCPL and they don't choose it, then that's part of the problem.
I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
I also appreciate you working on that Opal kitchen. It's what I used as an example to get the Opal compatibility on my own kitchen. I appreciate your advise about PDAVIET.
ob_izzy, now it's your turn to be a great cook. ^_^
I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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The kitchen only puts things together. What the stuff does depends on the OEM's and EXT's included. If you took all the EXT's that came with the official Opal ROM, you may not have any bugs because the manufacturer has worked out all those little bugs. If I had an Opal to play with, I'd probably find all the bugs myself and fix them (like I did with the Herald.) Unfortunately, we need the help of a very experienced Opal cook who HAS an Opal. (Or I need an Opal, which isn't happening since I have a G1 as my main phone and wouldn't buy an Opal to replace it (nothing wrong with the Opal, but I love android. )
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Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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You can make an experience, dump the official opal's ROM (ruusigned.nbh) with Visual kitchen from mine or ivanmmj, go to the official rom folder, there is a "dump" folder there with Ervius kitchen tools, then run that kitchen and build the rom, it will build ROM same as official that you dump. If it run well, no problem with the kitchen.
BesFen said:
You can make an experience, dump the official opal's ROM (ruusigned.nbh) with Visual kitchen from mine or ivanmmj, go to the official rom folder, there is a "dump" folder there with Ervius kitchen tools, then run that kitchen and build the rom, it will build ROM same as official that you dump. If it run well, no problem with the kitchen.
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Great suggestion man. I tried it and it did build the 6.1 rom without problems but it builds 6.1 good but not 6.5. When it builds wm 6.5 there are problems.
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
i just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
[1]Touch Screen is not functioning properly, so what should i do so that it works properly & how.
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[2]From where i can get latest htc camera, audio manager, album, photo canvas...etc so that i can include them in my rom.
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[3]From where i can get OEM Drivers 3.14 for Elfin
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[4]How can i change which time zone, date and time appears when phone starts after flashing my Rom.
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[5]Navigation Buttons along with Action button have stop working????
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[6]My phone is lagging a lot and gets stuck, what should i do?
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times
+ Que PPC said:
1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times
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i asked from where i can get latest pkgs and i am asking for pkgs that works in elfin
i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping a stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in stock rom.
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General conscensus was to collapse the thread. I have adjusted the title to be more indicative of the help required.
Ankush, which kitchen are you using to cook your ROM - Ervius, OnDraster, etc.?
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touchscreen is not functioning properly???? Please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your touch screen.
Did you omit any drivers or registry entries in OEM? Reads like you may have or there may be a compatibility issue ... see next response.
From where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
Some camera package may not be compatible with the device or the version of OEM drivers. See next response.
OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
To elaborate; many chefs will track down an original ("official") HTC release ROM and extract it using a kitchen. They will then take this kitchen, make a copy of it for archive purposes, and start altering the kitchen.
Have a look at the Shipped ROM thread to see if you can locate the drivers you mention below.
This is a good question for begginers
There's a few thread on this already; have a look at the Tips And Tricks from Mr. Makk.
Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
As above, it likely a driver issue. Also note that some device (ex: AT&T Fuze) have a proprietary KEYBOARD.DLL compiled specifically for the device. This may result in certain buttons not functioning with newer SYS and/or drivers from a similar device that doesn't have the same buttons.
The rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience. you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You may need to increase the PagePool size. You'll need to some searching as different devices need different sizes - it's specific to RAM and processor.
HTH,
new questions look at the first post.....;
onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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mmm interesting
1.- 3.14 maybe or maybe not is a hybrid... some are 3.07 and some are other ported OEM folders to ELFIN... i know that some of them works ok with elfin, like.... mmmm OPAL OEM drivers (some of them not all)
2 & 3.- As you may red on the tutorial I said that the EXT pkgs must have categorized.. something like
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-ELFIN
--23658
--COMMON
---Conectivity
----Commanager_2.0_HTC_Mega
----Connection Setup_3.2_Opal
---Images
----OS images
----Red theme 6.5.X
----Red theme 6.5
---Reg tweaks
----Performance
----Asharsunny_touchresponse
----Regional_settings
be sure your new added EXT PKGS applications are well categorized
Remember too.. that every EXT pkg needs or sometings has as a default the files app.dat and app.reg... I will update the tutorial for other langs to explain this two files function for noobs, but if you search you can have many tutorials lost there in the forums by amesh... hilaireg... and many awsome members.
5.- the SDautorun is an enhaced function into the normal or RUNCC app... the SD autorun allows you to install apps onfirst boot via cab in your storage card...
The SD autorun needs a line in the config.txt that must be in the normalOEM pkg for autorun, mmmm something like...
LOCK:Enabled
EXEC:\Windows\SetHSDPA.exe /Enable
CAB: \Windows\Certs.cab
CAB: \Windows\SMSFIX.cab
CAB: \Windows\btfix.cab
Hide:Enabled
LOCKisabled
EXEC:\Windows\SDAutoRun.exe
THIS
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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+1...i agree with you completely...search, flash, and read...it will take many trial and error before you find the correct combo!
Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.
+ Que PPC said:
mmm interesting
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but i categorized ext only then also but other applications which i am trying by as EXT pkgs like g-alarm, regedit, arkswitch are working!!!!
hey thanks for the sdautorun tut i will work on it.
Sorry friend but it's obvious to me you didn't read at all.
If you ask questions why Album and Audiomanager not showing that's just a simple initflash edit which you can find in the sticky here at Chef Central.
And about Sdautorun offcourse that is explained on the board as well a simple search will give you answers.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=sdautorun
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No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.
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Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
-Ankush
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@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,
hilaireg said:
@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,
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okay i got it. thank you everyone.
iam trying to cook my own wm6.5.3 23569 rom for elfin
evry thing is good but when i try to flash the rom it bootup but
it stop at window mobile screen
what to do plzzzz help me
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OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
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The 3.14 OEMDrvers for Elfin comes from RUU_Elfin_Dopod_CHS_3.14.706.02_4.1.13.71_03.34.90_BLUE_Ship.exe.
Ok, I came to the point where I would like to see if it's possible to cook my own rom. There is, however, so much (cluttered) information around the forum and I just have no idea where to start. I did figure some stuff out, but with everything I find out I also get more questions. I hope I'm allowed to ask these here.
Windows Mobile / Sense:
I am planning to begin flashing a rom only for my phone: Rhodium / Touch Pro 2. I just don't realy get how I can get the latest version of windows mobile (the on with the start menu at the top left) and sense (2.5.2015 ?). The stock roms I can find for Rhodium contain older versions.
Kitchens:
There are quite some kitchens out there, even those that do a lot of work for you. To understand everything, however, I would rather get a kitchen with only the essential tools. This way I am hoping to understand what steps are needed for the cooking. What kitchen would be recommended for this?
Terms
There are lots of terms around, but for some of them I can't figure out what exactly they are.
- XIP
- SYS
- OEM
Thanks!
~Sph
For WM, you should find the newest version of COM2 build, which is Build 21905 at this moment. It seems that not mentioned in XDA, but you could Google for that.
I think you should be able to use these essential tools, often refer as "old style" kitchen
ImgfsFromDump
xidump (ImgfsToDump) and DMP2PKG
osnbtool
BuildOS
EXTReloc
XIPPort
maybe there are more tools when you need to repack back to nbh format
For Terms, you should read Da_G's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
I will tell you this....
read the tutorials... check the main stickie
read eve you dont understand nothing... then when you want to start trying things, you can ask.. with some knowledge.. the lates kitchen to date is Oskitchen by airxtreme and osbuilder.. i guess
Not to be mean but like +Que PPC said READ FIRST you should have look for information first and found this answers by your self ... Now about the systems and xip ext, sys, modules, cabs and all other stuff like that you will learn them when you start working on a kitchen.
About the kitchens there are various kitchens it just deppends which one you want to choose, all the kitchens will help you create your rom and customise it, and also one recomendation and requirement that you should have in order to create your own rom and that is patience and time, because you will need to look for alot of info and also looking for fixes and customisation and all of that.
Here is another kitchen that I recomended thanks to +Que PPC with the tutorial with videos in english made by me.
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669535
PS. Search & read first
XIP = eXicuteInPlace -- it's the core of the entire OS. Without it you got nothing.
XIP is made up of 2 main parts:
oemxipkernel - device specific
msxipkernel - build specific to SYS version
SYS is basically all the microsoft files
OEM is basically all the device specific files, and nonMS applications
If you have a CDMA Touch Pro 2, I have a kitchen here all set up for you:
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=12797
If you have GSM, you will need to change out some components of the kitchen, specifically xip and oemdrivers, plus a few other things.
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile - use to be a Symbian fan and then got the HTC Touch Diamond recently due to my Nokia dieing of old age.
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want. I tried sending Da_G a PM as he seems to be quite knowledable about cooking - although he seems to be MIA (his last post was a long time ago) and I have not gotten a reply yet.
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to.
So I have an HTC Touch Diamond which originally comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, I am using osKitchen as it seems really popular and it looks easy enough to use. I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.
So in order to cook a ROM you first need to have an original ROM (so in my case an original ROM for the HTC Touch Diamond off the HTC site?)... I got that(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.03.421.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe)
Then you open it up with osKitchen, it extracts it blah blah blah.
I then get a popup about a new ROM has been imported and it asks me if I want to automatically configure the project to use the ROM. I click yes.
Then it says the device profile currently selected uses a pre 6.5 kernel, module allocation space will be extremely limited. Do I want to auto enable module to file conversion for a list of files? Now I read somewhere that if you are using pre 6.5 kernel you want files, if you are using the 6.5 kernel you want modules? I am not sure what to click here as I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6.5 ...
So do I enable the conversion or not?
Then it pops up with the project settings, under SYS Packages I can see all of the phones services. OEM packages, I am not too sure what that is... One thing which is worrying is that there is a red circle with an X in it infront of OEM Drivers... If I hover over it, it says there are issues detected in the OEMdriers. They all seem to be errors detected in the registry and the registery key path entry is invalid due to 2 adjacent backslahes? So is this normal? What do I do?
Also there is a block "RecMod" under OEM Packages. What does that do and what is it used for?
EXT Packages, over here we have all of the applications which will be preinstalled when you flash the ROM? I know how to add .cab packages to it and it seems simple enough. Once again there is a RecMod with a tick box?
ROM Tweaking I have not really bothered with yet, would first like to learn the basics. Anything I should know about in ROM Tweaking?
Now back to SYS Packages. This is where you update/port/upgrade ? to newer windows mobile versions? Now I think if you are changing between window mobile major build versions or what ever you want to call it (like from 6.1 to 6.5) kernel changes perhaps? You call it porting? Anyways, so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
I took a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
Now it seems like the first 3 digits indicate something, what exactly I am not too sure. Perhaps someone could explain?
There is HTC HTC which is made by HTC I think and possibly meant for HTC?
Then there is COM 2 and LG. Now since I have an HTC do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
Anyways, I downloaded the HTC one. Now I want to port / upgrade to it. It is WM6.5 now as well. So I click Import, then goto Import a new WM build. Select the appropriate build dump, then click on start importing. It will import it and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
I am assuming go back to Project Settings and under SYS build change it to the newer one which I have just imported? Although is this really all I need to do? Will I now have a proper functioning cooked ROM running WM6.5 with the new build?
Thanks
If you're cooking a 6.5 rom, and you have a 6.5 native kernel (there should be one out there, unless you're using a cdma diamond), then DO NOT RECMOD (convert to files). If you have to use a 6.1 kernel, then you have to recmod a lot of modules. Look around, there are threads with native kernels for many older devices. I'm not going to dig up a link, I'll let you find it. Just get the Diamond native kernel and use it.
If you have a cdma diamond, then I believe that people use the cdma raphael native kernel, but supposedly it's buggy.
OEM Drivers has an .rgu that usually has a few mistakes in it; that's probably the error you're getting. I wouldn't worry about it, but the kitchen may tell you which line the error appears in, and you can fix it.
As far as rom tweaking goes, all you need to know is that manila sucks, and Sense is blight on humanity. Good luck and have fun.
Real Beginners Stuff Please.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile......
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want.....
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to......
...... I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.....
..... What do I do?
..... What does that do and what is it used for?
..... would first like to learn the basics......
..... so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
..... do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
.....and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
.....Thanks
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Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
It all comes down to the basics. If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
Kitchens available today make a lot of things heaps easier than they were several years ago.
Try starting with this thread.... it is not for your device, but you get to learn the basics and actually understand what happens in the background.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
pkoper said:
.... If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
..... Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
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This may be new to me, but it also was to EVERY cook there is, or has been at sometime. We all learn something new at some time, and all I was asking for is a little starter to get me going. I realaise it isn't a point and click exercise, otherwise I would have made a ROM by now, and not asked for help. I didn't write the software for the kitchen, so I don't know how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
Please, give me a break.
Fish-Man said:
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
Fish-Man said:
Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
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Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
pkoper said:
Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
Fish-Man said:
Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
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I don't think what you're looking for exist, persay. There are several kitchens out there to choose from. The only thing that helped me when starting out was frequenting the thread of the kitchen that I was using. It's in the kitchen's thread that you'll find all the nitty gritty answers you're looking for and other people that are in the same boat as you, and more experienced users of the same kitchen who would probably be more apt at answering questions about specific kitchen.
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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Nice quick knowledge drop on kernel. It sounds to me like you already have a better grasp on things then some!
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
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Thats because there is no stock 6.5 for the Kaiser. Not sure what "those WM6.5 files" are, but you do need the drivers for your device. Any leaked build will not contain those.
Dumping a stock rom will give you insight as to what is actually in the rom. When you then download one of the leaked builds you can you will recognize the files and hence see what needs replacing in order to upgrade.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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What kitchen are you using? As there are obviously slight differences as to what is where.
I would just get a ready kitchen and study it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517957
for your reference maybe you should read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901712
i had made the tutorial how to cook ROM, step by step. it has different device and different OS but worth to read.....
i don't have enough capability to Cook but i try to....
also in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385
some of members also made tutorial as well.......
i hope it can help.