Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
i just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
[1]Touch Screen is not functioning properly, so what should i do so that it works properly & how.
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[2]From where i can get latest htc camera, audio manager, album, photo canvas...etc so that i can include them in my rom.
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[3]From where i can get OEM Drivers 3.14 for Elfin
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[4]How can i change which time zone, date and time appears when phone starts after flashing my Rom.
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[5]Navigation Buttons along with Action button have stop working????
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[6]My phone is lagging a lot and gets stuck, what should i do?
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times
+ Que PPC said:
1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times
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i asked from where i can get latest pkgs and i am asking for pkgs that works in elfin
i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping a stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in stock rom.
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General conscensus was to collapse the thread. I have adjusted the title to be more indicative of the help required.
Ankush, which kitchen are you using to cook your ROM - Ervius, OnDraster, etc.?
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touchscreen is not functioning properly???? Please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your touch screen.
Did you omit any drivers or registry entries in OEM? Reads like you may have or there may be a compatibility issue ... see next response.
From where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
Some camera package may not be compatible with the device or the version of OEM drivers. See next response.
OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
To elaborate; many chefs will track down an original ("official") HTC release ROM and extract it using a kitchen. They will then take this kitchen, make a copy of it for archive purposes, and start altering the kitchen.
Have a look at the Shipped ROM thread to see if you can locate the drivers you mention below.
This is a good question for begginers
There's a few thread on this already; have a look at the Tips And Tricks from Mr. Makk.
Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
As above, it likely a driver issue. Also note that some device (ex: AT&T Fuze) have a proprietary KEYBOARD.DLL compiled specifically for the device. This may result in certain buttons not functioning with newer SYS and/or drivers from a similar device that doesn't have the same buttons.
The rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience. you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You may need to increase the PagePool size. You'll need to some searching as different devices need different sizes - it's specific to RAM and processor.
HTH,
new questions look at the first post.....;
onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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mmm interesting
1.- 3.14 maybe or maybe not is a hybrid... some are 3.07 and some are other ported OEM folders to ELFIN... i know that some of them works ok with elfin, like.... mmmm OPAL OEM drivers (some of them not all)
2 & 3.- As you may red on the tutorial I said that the EXT pkgs must have categorized.. something like
EXT
-ELFIN
--23658
--COMMON
---Conectivity
----Commanager_2.0_HTC_Mega
----Connection Setup_3.2_Opal
---Images
----OS images
----Red theme 6.5.X
----Red theme 6.5
---Reg tweaks
----Performance
----Asharsunny_touchresponse
----Regional_settings
be sure your new added EXT PKGS applications are well categorized
Remember too.. that every EXT pkg needs or sometings has as a default the files app.dat and app.reg... I will update the tutorial for other langs to explain this two files function for noobs, but if you search you can have many tutorials lost there in the forums by amesh... hilaireg... and many awsome members.
5.- the SDautorun is an enhaced function into the normal or RUNCC app... the SD autorun allows you to install apps onfirst boot via cab in your storage card...
The SD autorun needs a line in the config.txt that must be in the normalOEM pkg for autorun, mmmm something like...
LOCK:Enabled
EXEC:\Windows\SetHSDPA.exe /Enable
CAB: \Windows\Certs.cab
CAB: \Windows\SMSFIX.cab
CAB: \Windows\btfix.cab
Hide:Enabled
LOCKisabled
EXEC:\Windows\SDAutoRun.exe
THIS
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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+1...i agree with you completely...search, flash, and read...it will take many trial and error before you find the correct combo!
Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.
+ Que PPC said:
mmm interesting
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but i categorized ext only then also but other applications which i am trying by as EXT pkgs like g-alarm, regedit, arkswitch are working!!!!
hey thanks for the sdautorun tut i will work on it.
Sorry friend but it's obvious to me you didn't read at all.
If you ask questions why Album and Audiomanager not showing that's just a simple initflash edit which you can find in the sticky here at Chef Central.
And about Sdautorun offcourse that is explained on the board as well a simple search will give you answers.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=sdautorun
onlyankush_s said:
No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.
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onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
-Ankush
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@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,
hilaireg said:
@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,
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okay i got it. thank you everyone.
iam trying to cook my own wm6.5.3 23569 rom for elfin
evry thing is good but when i try to flash the rom it bootup but
it stop at window mobile screen
what to do plzzzz help me
onlyankush_s said:
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
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The 3.14 OEMDrvers for Elfin comes from RUU_Elfin_Dopod_CHS_3.14.706.02_4.1.13.71_03.34.90_BLUE_Ship.exe.
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hy all. i have a problem (wish): i want to install a clean rom ( i have it allready) and i want to customize it with the programs that i want to, and then, to save this rom (i supose that i have to dump it and reconstruct it) exactly with my settings/applications/etc. can i do that? if I can, how? thx alll.
When you customize your polaris on the device itself, it doesn't change the ROM on it. So dumping it will not give you a new ROM. You'll have to change the ROM on the desktop, and upload it afterwards. There are a lot of topics about ROM building.
ok. thx. i will go then to that topics. thx.
Yes but the problem is that all those posts are about porting a 6.1 rom from another device to polaris.
Now that we have a 6.1 rom how exactly do we cook it and flash it back?
Here's my problem: I have the PTG 6.1 rom, but I want to replace the CF2 with CF3.5 and replace TTN6 with TTN7, and flash it back.
I already have Kitchen 1.3, extracted the 'RUU_signed.nbh' and a dump of 03_OS.nb.payload.
Now, where do I go from here?. I want a rom that's exactly the same as the official one but with the changes I mentioned above.
I'm a complete noob at this cooking rom issue. I've read lots of threads but I've only gotten more confused about all the XIPs, SYSs, OEMs and stuff, and I think the same happens with other users.
I know that some of the actual cookers were once in the same place I'm now, so can someone point me out the rigth way and if possible post a detailed tutorial on how to extract, cook and flash back a rom on POLARIS, me and lots of users would apreciate it a LOT.
Second That Thought.
What would be nice to see (if possible) the following,
as an example:
1. Download Polaris ROM Kitchen v1.3
2. Extract to c:\Kitchen
3. Copy your ROM image (*.nbh) to X:\
4. Run command
...20. Install Package (M2D.cab) by doing the following ...
21. Recombine the ROM by doing the follow commands ...
22. Flash your ROM to your Polaris
23. Hard Reset and verify that the package you installed is in your ROM
Congrats
A step by step like that, which walks a user though the process of a demo ROM and a demo *.cab for learning would be FANTASTIC!!!
Thanks in advance to whoever can help us out!
Juxtyce
bump.
Any help from the professionals out there?
Look here:
1. .Net2.0 => .net3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2685138&postcount=22
2. replace the ttn.cab file in the folder "\kitchen.work\Build\OEM\OEMAPPS" with the TomTom7 cab. If it don't have the same name, rename the new cab or edit the file 'config_AP.txt' in the same folder
hope it will help you I managed it this way.
P.S. I didn't change the XIP as mentioned in the given thread. See following posts
I will dump the wm6.1 rom for you guys, and provide you with a kitchen with some packages you can use.
I will do so for all available languages that is available with official wm6.1
But,that is gonna be quite time consuming, and I hope that you understand that I ask this in return:
Any small donation for the time I use on that will be of help.
I dont say that its required, not at all. I am not doing this for money.
But the number of hours I spend on this is getting pretty high.
I will do this project either you donate or not.
cheers
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
dunno if it's the good topic to post but let's try.
I see many fantastic people cooking excellent roms (i wish i could do the same...), and, in those roms, a lot of softwares.
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
and seperate cabs to install what you want?
for example, manilla 2d is cool, but many people like spb mobile shell better, so it's wasted memory.
May be i'm just wrong, don't understanding how it all works, so plz explain to me !
ady_uaic said:
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
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if the language is available; yes
taniwha913 said:
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
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There is a large choice of ROM's, some loaded with extra's, some very minimally equiped. There are so many that your favorite must be out there already. Just search for it.
SuperJustKitchen v0.7 Released.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
For more information on the kitchen, please read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4288668
Word of warning:
None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald, Opal, Hermes AND Artemis. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
(I'm no longer updating each thread separately for each device but just updating my site and posting the release info here.)
ivanmmj said:
Now with Opal support!!
Wait until you see the announcement on my site to know that it's been updated/uploaded.
Word of warning:
SJK v.5 has had some major changes. None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald and Opal. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
Take not that there are many versions of certain packages. Let me know if the older ones are close enough to the new ones so that I can delete the old ones.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
At the moment, consider SJK v0.5 to be a test... Don't expect to have THAT many builds when it goes into v0.5.5
Right now it has the following builds available to you:
21054 (wm6.1)
21864 (COM2 - old style gui - wm6.5)
23064 (COM4 - newer gui - wm6.5)
5.5 will only have 21054, 21864, and 23064 unless something new gets released.
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Thanks for providing us a new kitchen for opal. Can u give me a tutorial on using this kitchen for opal. Full explaination plz
It works exactly the same as your other Ervius based kitchen. You can follow that tutorial as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4446173&postcount=3
The real difference is that I do the porting of new builds and the addition of new EXT packages for you.
(Granted, I've added more options under the Extra Buttons section, but you can go in there and figure out what most things are from their names and descriptions.)
Thanks BUT....
Thanks for your work man BUT: When i make my rom everything works Except the HOME settings and COMM manager,it is the same thing with BesFen kitchen,sometimes it works and then sometimes it does not.
I have tried and tried but nothing seems to help,i give up. I hope you guys can figure it out. Thanks.
What Home settings?
As far as the COMM Manager, don't choose the Comm manager in the EXT list. It's meant for older devices (like the Herald). Don't choose a Comm Manager at all. The OEM still has a comm manager built in. It will automatically insert a working comm manager.
Sorry i meant when you go to start/settings/Today does not work and i did not choose the comm manager, the one that comes with the oem does not work. Like i said sometimes they work and then it does not.
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Sorry i meant when you go to start/settings/Today does not work and i did not choose the comm manager, the one that comes with the oem does not work. Like i said sometimes they work and then it does not.
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Weird... The Today works fine on the Herald and it's part of the SYS, not the OEM. Are adding or not adding the MyCPL?
So the Comm Manager, even the one that's made FOR the phone has problems?
No i left out MyCpl. What is that BTW. The same thing happens in BesFen kitchen but it works when you put the PP on 12,anything higher it will not work.But i tried it on 12 & 16 PP in your kitchen but it does not work at all.Also when using file explorer and when selecting a theme when Today is working i have to long press or hold down the stylus to select something.
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No i left out MyCpl. What is that BTW. The same thing happens in BesFen kitchen but it works when you put the PP on 12,anything higher it will not work.But i tried it on 12 & 16 PP in your kitchen but it does not work at all.Also when using file explorer and when selecting a theme when Today is working i have to long press or hold down the stylus to select something.
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So it happens with BesFen's kitchen as well? The Opal is so strange and different than the other devices when it comes to cooking, I wonder what other changes I must make to the kitchen to get it work properly. At the moment, without an Opal, I can only make a kitchen as good as BesFen can when it comes to proper NB creation. Does anyone have a current WORKING kitchen for the Opal that doesn't have these problems? If so, point me to it and I will study the differences.
As a side note: Doesn't the Opal use myCPL by default? If it does, then you MUST choose it.
If you know PhamQuang you can ask him what kitchen he uses,his roms are usually buggy but i think the last one he made was good and everything works smooth.
You can find more detailed info on the kitchen in the main thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545572&highlight=superjustkitchen
theglen35, I'll go ahead and try to contact PhamQuang. Thanks.
ivanmmj said:
As a side note: Doesn't the Opal use myCPL by default? If it does, then you MUST choose it.
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Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
BesFen said:
Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
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Hey BesFen THANKS very much for making a kitchen for the Opal,I have made many roms with it and except for a few problems it works good.But i think you should try and get all the bugs and problems worked out so we don't have to rely or wait for PhamQuang or PDAVIET to get any roms.
Because of the problems i am using Opals original WM 6.1 until you guys can figure it out.
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Hey BesFen THANKS very much for making a kitchen for the Opal,I have made many roms with it and except for a few problems it works good.But i think you should try and get all the bugs and problems worked out so we don't have to rely or wait for PhamQuang or PDAVIET to get any roms.
Because of the problems i am using Opals original WM 6.1 until you guys can figure it out.
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If your ROM can boot, it mean the kitchen work great.
The problem that you figure is not causes by the kitchen, it's pure something in the ext or OEM or SYS, try to read more reference from others device thread, I can't fix it since I don't have opal for test it, I am sorry about that.
ivanmmj said:
Now with Opal support!!
Wait until you see the announcement on my site to know that it's been updated/uploaded.
Word of warning:
SJK v.5 has had some major changes. None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald and Opal. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
Take not that there are many versions of certain packages. Let me know if the older ones are close enough to the new ones so that I can delete the old ones.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
At the moment, consider SJK v0.5 to be a test... Don't expect to have THAT many builds when it goes into v0.5.5
Right now it has the following builds available to you:
21054 (wm6.1)
21864 (COM2 - old style gui - wm6.5)
23064 (COM4 - newer gui - wm6.5)
5.5 will only have 21054, 21864, and 23064 unless something new gets released.
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thanks ivan u've done great... thanks for having opal too in ur kitchen.. hopfully everything work great like the herald... ur the best... i thought i'll never see u since my phone is not the wing no more its touch viva now.. cuz i like wat u done for herald lots cooks already doing different roms... it is impressive... hopfully i'll start my own too... for here... thanks alot ivan keep it up...
BesFen said:
Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
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Yea, if the Opal comes with the MyCPL and they don't choose it, then that's part of the problem.
I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
I also appreciate you working on that Opal kitchen. It's what I used as an example to get the Opal compatibility on my own kitchen. I appreciate your advise about PDAVIET.
ob_izzy, now it's your turn to be a great cook. ^_^
I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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The kitchen only puts things together. What the stuff does depends on the OEM's and EXT's included. If you took all the EXT's that came with the official Opal ROM, you may not have any bugs because the manufacturer has worked out all those little bugs. If I had an Opal to play with, I'd probably find all the bugs myself and fix them (like I did with the Herald.) Unfortunately, we need the help of a very experienced Opal cook who HAS an Opal. (Or I need an Opal, which isn't happening since I have a G1 as my main phone and wouldn't buy an Opal to replace it (nothing wrong with the Opal, but I love android. )
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Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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You can make an experience, dump the official opal's ROM (ruusigned.nbh) with Visual kitchen from mine or ivanmmj, go to the official rom folder, there is a "dump" folder there with Ervius kitchen tools, then run that kitchen and build the rom, it will build ROM same as official that you dump. If it run well, no problem with the kitchen.
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You can make an experience, dump the official opal's ROM (ruusigned.nbh) with Visual kitchen from mine or ivanmmj, go to the official rom folder, there is a "dump" folder there with Ervius kitchen tools, then run that kitchen and build the rom, it will build ROM same as official that you dump. If it run well, no problem with the kitchen.
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Great suggestion man. I tried it and it did build the 6.1 rom without problems but it builds 6.1 good but not 6.5. When it builds wm 6.5 there are problems.
Well, I guess I will contribute with something...
There are way too many kitchens out there (all scattered in the different device forums). Now, since this is "Chef Central", I figured that we needed the kitchens for the Chefs to cook. Without further ado, I present you with... the kitchens.
[highlight]PPCKitchen.org:[/highlight]
Easy to use for the beginner...
http://www.ppckitchen.org
[highlight]Ivanmmj SuperJust Kitchen (thanks +QuePPC and kokotas):[/highlight]
Multi-Device Kitchen
http://justkitchen.info/main/index.php
[highlight]osKitchen:[/highlight]
New kitchen based on bepe's work (thanks mwalt2)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948
[highlight]Ervius Visual Kitchen (EVK)thanks mwalt2)[/highlight]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420
[highlight]Wallaby (Peter Poelman):[/highlight]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=219037
[highlight]Blue Angel:[/highlight]
Latest: 28230 by sun_dream
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030
Swampy395 Porting Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587446&highlight=porting
[highlight]Himalaya:[/highlight]
Latest: 28230 by sun_dream
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519129
[highlight]Wizard:[/highlight]
Not really a single kitchen but xda2_haseeb made a nice guide with links to some kitchens for the Wizard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501941
[highlight]Universal: (thanks orb3000)[/highlight]
ROM Kitchen v2.0 by Tomal: Next generation Kitchen for Universal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476544
[highlight]Raphael:[/highlight]
Resources and kitchens lumped together by hilaireg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582134
[highlight]Polaris:[/highlight]
Not really a single kitchen but cruiserrr made a nice guide with links to some kitchens for the Polaris.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648171
Now, I am not going to scan the whole site for kitchens, so this is where we all have to pitch in. I know I am missing a few of the multi-device kitchens, but if we all contribute with kitchens for different devices, we can have a nice little resource for many new aspiring chefs...
Let's get cookin'!
Opinions
I decided to make post #2 as an Opinions Page. I will link the posts from each and every one of you that talks good or bad about a kitchen over here.
[highlight]Visual Kitchen[/highlight]
player911
[highlight]Polaris Chef Corner[/highlight]
cruiserrr
One more for the road...
NRGZ28 said:
I think we'll need to neatly catergorize these kitchen collections later on. Maybe we'll them all in the first post of this thread, or we can create another one.
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I can update the first post as needed. I actually left two more posts after that just in case I run into space issues. I am thinking, one or two posts for device specific kitchens and one for generic kitchens. What do you think?
dXsL said:
excellent initiative, tnx!
wouldn't mind more pro's/con's per kitchen but also realize that is subject to personal experience and/or (strong) opinion
so perhaps only mention the pro's?
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+1 on this.
PRO's/CON's can be easily worded such that it isn't considered a personal attack.
I would rather know about the CON's and how to work-around them than spend hours in trial-and-error. If a member decides to select a certain kitchen, at least they know what they are "getting into".
M2C's Worth,
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@egzthunder1:
BTW; if you need extra empty posts near the top of your thread, let me or another moderator know and we'll make it happen.
hilaireg said:
+1 on this.
PRO's/CON's can be easily worded such that it isn't considered a personal attack.
I would rather know about the CON's and how to work-around them than spend hours in trial-and-error. If a member decides to select a certain kitchen, at least they know what they are "getting into".
M2C's Worth,
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@egzthunder1:
BTW; if you need extra empty posts near the top of your thread, let me or another moderator know and we'll make it happen.
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Thanks hilaireg, I might have to bother you regarding the extra posts if this grows as much as I fear it will .
As far as the pro/cons... well, we could do this in such a way that only people who have used the kitchens in question can post them in this thread, so they can give their points of view. I personally have had time to play with 3 of the kitchens that I have posted and used a few tools of another one, but I guess I can add this to the first post and you guys let me know what you think:
"If you are going to post a kitchen in this thread, please be kind enough to give your opinions on it (likes, dislikes, hard to use, buggy, best kitchen ever... well, you know what I mean). This way, new coming chefs will not have to go through the pain of trial and error"
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Thanks hilaireg, I might have to bother you regarding the extra posts if this grows as much as I fear it will .
As far as the pro/cons... well, we could do this in such a way that only people who have used the kitchens in question can post them in this thread, so they can give their points of view. I personally have had time to play with 3 of the kitchens that I have posted and used a few tools of another one, but I guess I can add this to the first post and you guys let me know what you think:
"If you are going to post a kitchen in this thread, please be kind enough to give your opinions on it (likes, dislikes, hard to use, buggy, best kitchen ever... well, you know what I mean). This way, new coming chefs will not have to go through the pain of trial and error"
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No worries ... let me know once you decide on the format for this thread. Have a look at this thread; might give you some ideas of what could be done for this:
Sous-Chef's Kitchen Utensils & Appliances Review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651026
I use Visual Kitchen
I chose visual kitchen because that was what Da_G used and started me out on. Here are my thoughts:
_________PRO_________
- GUI interface to visually select/deselect packages
- Expandable with Programmable Extra Buttons to ease sorting and cooking stuff
- Allows users to select multiple builds, Lanuages, packages, etc using drop down boxes
- Save/Load configurations and settings
- Robust, Organized and Complete
_________CON_________
- File structure has to be intact or it will fail
- Have to know the building procedure to make sure custom files aren't overwritten
- Packages are in folders, so finding a specific file can be tedious
- Can be overwhelming and confusing to get it setup initially from scratch
I would recommend using this kitchen as it pretty nice. Now of course I say that without using any other kitchen to compare it to... but it does everything I need thus no need to look elsewhere.
_________TIPS_________
EXT folder = Packages (Games/HTC Apps/HTC Dialer/Etc). Additional apps outside of stock MS stuff
OEM folder = Phone specific stuff, OEM customizations, tweaks (usually left alone)
ROM folder = Basic building blocks for WM builds. Has basic device and WM drivers (MSXipKernel updated when SYS gets updated)
SYS folder = WM Build. Contains all the stuff that is stock MS products (updated to change to newer builds)
- Starting out as a new chef... I would suggest that you find a Fully working kitchen designed for your device that is fairly new and updated. Once you can create a working rom, you can then slowly start to expand it by adding more packages and features.
- Don't add too much at once. If you do, and it fails... you'll have to troubleshoot what you added and that can be tedious. It helps to add new packages in groups of 5... so you can test specific parts of the rom before continuing. You'll be surprised that 1 screwed up file can keep your kitchen from completing the building process. Keep that in mind.
- The "EXT" folder is optional and gets updated the most. OEM, ROM, and SYS folders are the only folders really required. Knowing this can allow you to build a very very basic stock Windows build designed for your device. If you have any problems building or flashing, try disabling all of the packages in the EXT folder. If your very very very basic rom still doesn't work... then your "base" kitchen is screwed up. This can be harder to fix.
- Make frequent backups of your "Base" kitchen in the event you screwed something up. I usually will remove the EXT folder and ZIP up the rest in an archive on a memory stick. I update my backup archives after a successful upgrade/edit/tweak of the "base".
player911 said:
I use Visual Kitchen
I chose visual kitchen because that was what Da_G used and started me out on. Here are my thoughts:
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Updated post #2. Thanks player911!
Hi man!
I think you could add vistang's multidevice kitchen too :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573778
I'm not the right person for a review, but I'm sure one of the guys who used it will be up to the task
Best Regards!
Hi, if you check the link in my signature (Polaris chef corner) you will find quite a few polaris specific kitchens
cruiserrr said:
Hi, if you check the link in my signature (Polaris chef corner) you will find quite a few polaris specific kitchens
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Thanks cruiserrr for the links. I updated the first post.
Can you give us some insights (in the format in the first page) of pros/cons for some of these kitchens? I don't have a Polaris, so I cannot write any comments about them. Thanks.
i dont have the link but there is a Superjust kitchen for sooo much devices in the net...
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i dont have the link but there is a Superjust kitchen for sooo much devices in the net...
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Is that the name of the kitchen?
egzthunder1 said:
Is that the name of the kitchen?
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Here is the link : ivanmmj's SuperJustKitchen
(Supported devices : Artemis , Elfin , Herald , Hermes , Opal)
Regards!
kokotas said:
Here is the link : ivanmmj's SuperJustKitchen
(Supported devices : Artemis , Elfin , Herald , Hermes , Opal)
Regards!
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Thanks for the link. I will update the first post. Any pros/cons opinions about this?
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Thanks for the link. I will update the first post. Any pros/cons opinions about this?
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Well it is a kitchen based on OsKitchen by OndraSter&airxtreme!
ps:check post #10 too
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Thanks cruiserrr for the links. I updated the first post.
Can you give us some insights (in the format in the first page) of pros/cons for some of these kitchens? I don't have a Polaris, so I cannot write any comments about them. Thanks.
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Well, I am not a seasoned cooker but I have updated the polaris chef corner 1st post with my view of each kitchen. Please feel free to take the text if you find it interesting. Most of polaris kitchen's are 26016 EVK kitchens with old kernel, I guess based on gullum's kitchen the first one the share the polaris kitchen for wm6.5. Most of them are based on mega packages. There is one from amenatis based on leo packages but is not 100% completed in english since it is a french kitchen (however, is the one I used as the basis).
For the rest, there are a few other kitchens like vistangs but it seems ondraster kitchen is growing each day. The best one for me is TomAngel's Ondraster kitchen: like any Ondraster's kitchen it has an easy set up of splashscreen and this kinds of things and allows you to cook in several languages at a time. It also has a nice documentation of packages. Additionally TomAngel included a 6.5 native kernel that we are currently testing a few cookers in Polaris but that seems to work and my end with our recmodding hobby.
I personally like better EVK UI but I must say ondraster is also a good solution (and I have "stolen" the kernel from there). I would be glad to share my kitchen I use my own method of cooking shortcuts and tweaks with cmd and mortscript scripts both in the ppc and the pc, so my packages have no app.dat and no png and very few reg files.
cruiserrr said:
Well, I am not a seasoned cooker but I have updated the polaris chef corner 1st post with my view of each kitchen. Please feel free to take the text if you find it interesting. Most of polaris kitchen's are 26016 EVK kitchens with old kernel, I guess based on gullum's kitchen the first one the share the polaris kitchen for wm6.5. Most of them are based on mega packages. There is one from amenatis based on leo packages but is not 100% completed in english since it is a french kitchen (however, is the one I used as the basis).
For the rest, there are a few other kitchens like vistangs but it seems ondraster kitchen is growing each day. The best one for me is TomAngel's Ondraster kitchen: like any Ondraster's kitchen it has an easy set up of splashscreen and this kinds of things and allows you to cook in several languages at a time. It also has a nice documentation of packages. Additionally TomAngel included a 6.5 native kernel that we are currently testing a few cookers in Polaris but that seems to work and my end with our recmodding hobby.
I personally like better EVK UI but I must say ondraster is also a good solution (and I have "stolen" the kernel from there). I would be glad to share my kitchen I use my own method of cooking shortcuts and tweaks with cmd and mortscript scripts both in the ppc and the pc, so my packages have no app.dat and no png and very few reg files.
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I am putting your review with the others (not that it follows the format that I want, but it is good enough for me )
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I am putting your review with the others (not that it follows the format that I want, but it is good enough for me )
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Hi, I think it is interesting to share: I can confirm that cooking for Polaris with the kernel shared by TomAngel requires not any recmodding at all !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6135182&postcount=27
Do not know if it works for other devices with old kernel, To try import in your kitchen and tell the machine is true kernel
I have been trying all week to get the latest (or any v2.5) Manila integrated into my ROM. I am using the latest osKitchen. There has been a lot of trial & error but here's what I have done so far:
Import latest HTC WWE ROM - 1.56
Rebuild this ROM just to prove it works
Replace 6.1 Kernel with 6.5 Kernel found on here
Import a newer Windows Mobile Build
Build ROM to test it works with stock OEM drivers/apps etc
Add my own preferred applications & settings etc and rebuild
At this point I now have a working ROM with the apps & settings I need, however it has the stock Manila (TouchFLO 3?) that I would like to replace. I have downloaded LOTS of manila packages and tried including them in the build whilst excluding the stock 'Manila v1.3.37395.2' but each time there is a problem. Typically the device boots OK but locks up during the first boot customisation sequence.
I am assuming (hoping?) other people have followed a similar procedure and hit the same issues? I was hoping for some pointers as to how I get past this hurdle
Thanks, Andy
Maybe you should ask in Chef Central forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=612
And your signature says Kaiser??? We use Blackstone...
Bodisson said:
Maybe you should ask in Chef Central forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=612
And your signature says Kaiser??? We use Blackstone...
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Been trawling through the Chef Central forum for a week...
There are lots of Manila threads but I can't find anything that matches my issue. Thought I'd try on the Native Blackstone forum
Only got the Blackstone last week - still have the Kaiser until I can get the ROM just as I want it. I'll update my signature
I can't believe that nobody has hit the same issues as me
The stock ROM that I imported simply doesn't have the correct packages or simplu cannot support the latest Manila so needs updating/replacing etc. I have searched and searched (and searched and searched...) but I am really struggling to find out what I need to add/remove/update from the stock ROM packages to get the latest Manila in my 6.5 ROM.
Anyone? Please?
i think you didnt search enough.
if you look to sticky thread there you can see a fully working kitchens.
i would say take a look at there.
Based to this kitchen you will learn more about the packs what you need to use manila 2.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824
and take a look at this thread You will learn more about manila
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584978
If you really cant find anything
I can upload mine kitchen which is working great
I did go to the dark side (iphone 4)
I have 42 memory usage after soft reset and it very stable
Its up to you do you want a kitchen which is made by yourself ( which is the best way to learn cooking) or...
cheers
Rambo
Thanks for that link Rambo. I honestly tried searching using different word combinations and could not find that thread
It has helped me somewhat however I am still struggling getting Manila 2.5 to work with osKitchen.
I have now resorted to using the whole of the HTC Leo EXT packages and then replacing/grafting in EXT packages from the original Blackstone dump. This is working but has various issues that need fixing.
I'll plod on....
Andy
it isnt that easy ha
if you need any help let us know.
or you can always ask questions in the chef central thread.
good luck
rambo
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile - use to be a Symbian fan and then got the HTC Touch Diamond recently due to my Nokia dieing of old age.
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want. I tried sending Da_G a PM as he seems to be quite knowledable about cooking - although he seems to be MIA (his last post was a long time ago) and I have not gotten a reply yet.
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to.
So I have an HTC Touch Diamond which originally comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, I am using osKitchen as it seems really popular and it looks easy enough to use. I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.
So in order to cook a ROM you first need to have an original ROM (so in my case an original ROM for the HTC Touch Diamond off the HTC site?)... I got that(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.03.421.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe)
Then you open it up with osKitchen, it extracts it blah blah blah.
I then get a popup about a new ROM has been imported and it asks me if I want to automatically configure the project to use the ROM. I click yes.
Then it says the device profile currently selected uses a pre 6.5 kernel, module allocation space will be extremely limited. Do I want to auto enable module to file conversion for a list of files? Now I read somewhere that if you are using pre 6.5 kernel you want files, if you are using the 6.5 kernel you want modules? I am not sure what to click here as I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6.5 ...
So do I enable the conversion or not?
Then it pops up with the project settings, under SYS Packages I can see all of the phones services. OEM packages, I am not too sure what that is... One thing which is worrying is that there is a red circle with an X in it infront of OEM Drivers... If I hover over it, it says there are issues detected in the OEMdriers. They all seem to be errors detected in the registry and the registery key path entry is invalid due to 2 adjacent backslahes? So is this normal? What do I do?
Also there is a block "RecMod" under OEM Packages. What does that do and what is it used for?
EXT Packages, over here we have all of the applications which will be preinstalled when you flash the ROM? I know how to add .cab packages to it and it seems simple enough. Once again there is a RecMod with a tick box?
ROM Tweaking I have not really bothered with yet, would first like to learn the basics. Anything I should know about in ROM Tweaking?
Now back to SYS Packages. This is where you update/port/upgrade ? to newer windows mobile versions? Now I think if you are changing between window mobile major build versions or what ever you want to call it (like from 6.1 to 6.5) kernel changes perhaps? You call it porting? Anyways, so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
I took a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
Now it seems like the first 3 digits indicate something, what exactly I am not too sure. Perhaps someone could explain?
There is HTC HTC which is made by HTC I think and possibly meant for HTC?
Then there is COM 2 and LG. Now since I have an HTC do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
Anyways, I downloaded the HTC one. Now I want to port / upgrade to it. It is WM6.5 now as well. So I click Import, then goto Import a new WM build. Select the appropriate build dump, then click on start importing. It will import it and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
I am assuming go back to Project Settings and under SYS build change it to the newer one which I have just imported? Although is this really all I need to do? Will I now have a proper functioning cooked ROM running WM6.5 with the new build?
Thanks
If you're cooking a 6.5 rom, and you have a 6.5 native kernel (there should be one out there, unless you're using a cdma diamond), then DO NOT RECMOD (convert to files). If you have to use a 6.1 kernel, then you have to recmod a lot of modules. Look around, there are threads with native kernels for many older devices. I'm not going to dig up a link, I'll let you find it. Just get the Diamond native kernel and use it.
If you have a cdma diamond, then I believe that people use the cdma raphael native kernel, but supposedly it's buggy.
OEM Drivers has an .rgu that usually has a few mistakes in it; that's probably the error you're getting. I wouldn't worry about it, but the kitchen may tell you which line the error appears in, and you can fix it.
As far as rom tweaking goes, all you need to know is that manila sucks, and Sense is blight on humanity. Good luck and have fun.
Real Beginners Stuff Please.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile......
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want.....
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to......
...... I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.....
..... What do I do?
..... What does that do and what is it used for?
..... would first like to learn the basics......
..... so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
..... do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
.....and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
.....Thanks
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Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
It all comes down to the basics. If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
Kitchens available today make a lot of things heaps easier than they were several years ago.
Try starting with this thread.... it is not for your device, but you get to learn the basics and actually understand what happens in the background.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
pkoper said:
.... If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
..... Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
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This may be new to me, but it also was to EVERY cook there is, or has been at sometime. We all learn something new at some time, and all I was asking for is a little starter to get me going. I realaise it isn't a point and click exercise, otherwise I would have made a ROM by now, and not asked for help. I didn't write the software for the kitchen, so I don't know how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
Please, give me a break.
Fish-Man said:
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
Fish-Man said:
Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
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Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
pkoper said:
Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
Fish-Man said:
Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
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I don't think what you're looking for exist, persay. There are several kitchens out there to choose from. The only thing that helped me when starting out was frequenting the thread of the kitchen that I was using. It's in the kitchen's thread that you'll find all the nitty gritty answers you're looking for and other people that are in the same boat as you, and more experienced users of the same kitchen who would probably be more apt at answering questions about specific kitchen.
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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Nice quick knowledge drop on kernel. It sounds to me like you already have a better grasp on things then some!
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
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Thats because there is no stock 6.5 for the Kaiser. Not sure what "those WM6.5 files" are, but you do need the drivers for your device. Any leaked build will not contain those.
Dumping a stock rom will give you insight as to what is actually in the rom. When you then download one of the leaked builds you can you will recognize the files and hence see what needs replacing in order to upgrade.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
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What kitchen are you using? As there are obviously slight differences as to what is where.
I would just get a ready kitchen and study it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517957
for your reference maybe you should read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901712
i had made the tutorial how to cook ROM, step by step. it has different device and different OS but worth to read.....
i don't have enough capability to Cook but i try to....
also in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385
some of members also made tutorial as well.......
i hope it can help.