Just a stupid hair-brained theory but did anyone notice HTC decided to use a HVGA screen after MS said that WM7 would be on WVGA & HVGA.
Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
Just becuase they could have used VGA, it has a bigger screen than the Diamond & that's VGA.
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donald-c said:
Just a stupid hair-brained theory but did anyone notice HTC decided to use a HVGA screen after MS said that WM7 would be on WVGA & HVGA.
Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
Just becuase they could have used VGA, it has a bigger screen than the Diamond & that's VGA.
Sorry for this thread again in another forum
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Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
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Sure, HTC have made HVGA devices.
The Dream (G1), Magic, Hero, and Legend all have HVGA screens.
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Sure, HTC have made HVGA devices.
The Dream (G1), Magic, Hero, and Legend all have HVGA screens.
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I meant on Windows Mobile
The hardware in the photon isn't a snapdragon and MS has explicitly said that WP7 is currently only possible on snapdragons (driver concerns). So no, I don't think it will be possible to put WP7 on it.
I agree it's an interesting choice, but until we know if WP7 can run on devices under 1Ghz, we won't know if that's why they did it.
Otherwise though, why downgrade from VGA? I suppose so they could share panels with the Android devices which are mostly HVGA.
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Screen resolution has no impact on capacitive sensing resolution; the sensing resolution of capacitive screens is far coarser than 320x480.
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swanga said:
HVGA is perfect for 3 inch capacitive screens.
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I agree and I hope the 3 party applications will work well. Let's see.
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sorry for the "stupid" question, but I don't have an hd and I'd like to understand if the screen (not resolution) has been changed from my previous devices (kaiser, diamond...)
I switched to iphone after some years with wm devices and, to be honest, I must admit that I've never seen a screen like that (in terms of interaction).
BUT... I miss my wm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since I can see a really big screen, HOW is this screen?
Is the same of the previous devices (you need same strenght to click... etc...) or is something new?
Thanks in advance!!!
Leo
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...I switched to iphone after some years with wm devices and, to be honest, I must admit that I've never seen a screen like that ... BUT... I miss my wm!!!!!!...
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I know EXACTLY how you feel!!! I struggled with the VERY SAME thing to the point that I started a "Can we port WinMo to the iphone hardware" thread, and basically got laughed at I'll apologize I can't answer your question, as my new HD won't be here till tomorrow afternoon. Good luck!
Jesse
HD has the best sensitivity in an HTC device to date.
It's more sensitive than other devices (I had TyTnII before) and you can tweak the sensitivity.
It's not quite the iPhone experience, but it is very very close.
I know what you mean, I have a Samsung F480 and its screen is a dream. I am not yet owning an HD but want to see it live as soon as possible to see how the well praised screen is.
There are two WM phones from Asus coming out, which are said to have a capacitive screen but this is not confirmed yet .... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446317
how do you tweak the sensitivity on the hd?
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how do you tweak the sensitivity on the hd?
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You should be able to do so with Schap's Advanced Config. Version 3.3 is out, which adds TF3D configurability, but not sure it's been certified with the HD...
I have the Diamond, I am probably getting the Hero.
Diamond 2.8" . 480x640
Hero 3.2" 320x480
I think I'm missing something
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I have the Diamond, I am probably getting the Hero.
Diamond 2.8" . 480x640
Hero 3.2" 320x480
I think I'm missing something
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Hero's screen looks m uch better though and has Teflon coating for scratch proof. Colors dont look washed out on the hero either.
What is the previous Diamond?
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I have the Diamond, I am probably getting the Hero.
Diamond 2.8" . 480x640
Hero 3.2" 320x480
I think I'm missing something
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you are mistaken, the hero has a VGA screen, 480x640, 320x480 is QVGA and android 1.5 does not even support this resolution
xxThugxx @ TPB said:
you are mistaken, the hero has a VGA screen, 480x640, 320x480 is QVGA and android 1.5 does not even support this resolution
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You are wrong, the resolution is 320x480 as the original poster already mentioned. It is far from the high resolution experienced on the VGA Diamond. BTW, QVGA 240x320, as on the HTC Touch.
The Diamond is an older HTC touchscreen phone. HTC Touch Diamond.
So the hero's screen is not as high resolution as my Diamond? Really? I would expect it to be better ... hmm... I think I'll still make the leap though because this Diamond isnt that great.
Guys, this has been known since the release of Android 1.1 back on the G1.
The only resolution supported on any device prior to Android 1.6 was the HVGA resoultion that the Hero uses. As this was the only resolution the OS supported, the hardware is a HVGA screen.
Now, when Android 1.6 was released, it added support for many more resolutions, including the lower QVGA (which the tattoo uses), WVGA (800*480, which i believe the Nexus uses) and many more.
The Hero has a 320*480 HVGA screen because when it was released, that was the ONLY resolution that Android could render.
And no, the screen is hardware limited, so the resolution will not increase when the 2.1 update is released.
rhedgehog, you learn sumat new every day init :lol i knew post android 1.5 only supported a single res, but i was under the impression that was vga not hvga, thats why i assumed the hero had a vga res thanx for putting me straight
No probs.
I've lost count of the amount of stuff i have learned from this place. gotta admit i wouldn;t know probably even a tenth of the stuff i know if it wasn't for years of fiddling in the winmo forums and learning what you could actually do with these things.
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The Diamond is an older HTC touchscreen phone. HTC Touch Diamond.
So the hero's screen is not as high resolution as my Diamond? Really? I would expect it to be better ... hmm... I think I'll still make the leap though because this Diamond isnt that great.
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i had the Diamond before Hero...
Hero is so much better... after ROM upgrade!!
you will not be sorry!
Dan330 said:
i had the Diamond before Hero...
Hero is so much better... after ROM upgrade!!
you will not be sorry!
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upgrade to which ROM though
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upgrade to which ROM though
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I am on Modaco 1.3; it is stable and no issues for me...
I am considering going to Modaco 2.1, but might just wait for Android 2.1... Maybe in 2-3 months!!!!!
Some have used other ROMs, I have not tried....
You have to read up on them.. and see what you like the best for your needs.
MCR 3.1 seems plenty fast enough and stable enough for me....not had any issues since i went to that.
IMHO the difference in resolution from the Diamond is not a big deal. Plus the screen is taller on the Hero.
The Modaco ROM makes a huge difference, go for the 3.2 version when it comes out; currently the 3.2 beta is for paid members only.. but it is worth it... speed optimizations are amazing and you can cook your own components with the Modaco online kitchen.
I changed from TD to Hero, and much prefer the screen on the Hero. Yes the TD has a better definition in theory, but IMHO the screen was too small to take real advanatge of it.
the only way i could do anything accurately with the TD screen was by using the stylus. The larger capacitive screen on the Hero is designed for being used with a finger - in fact a stylus won't work on it.
I think the Hero is so much easier to use and that is due to a combination of the capacitive screen, the Android software and the sense ui that HTC installs onto the software. The only thing going for the iphone was its ease of use but I think my Hero beats it.
Haven't seen anyone post on here so thought I would...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
Video Teaser for HD Mini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtCGiykDW0
heh, it has wm 6.5.3
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Haven't seen anyone post on here so thought I would...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
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It have WM7 or update confirmation?.....no?.....no thanks, but i will not buy it, or tell someone to get it!
HD mini...
What makes the HD2 interesting is its big size, so why would you want a smaller one?
Different product altogether.
HVGA 320x480 after using an HD2 - no thanks.
When I first got thinking about buying an HD2 I was worried that I might not like such a big bulky screen.
Now - well you'd have to "pry it from my cold dead hands"
Massive Impact, Sensible Size
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Suggesting what they did with HD2 was not sensible then? LOL!!!
I actually like it. While I love my HD2, I don't do anything multimedia-ish on it and so a smaller screen wouldn't bother me..in fact I would prefer a smaller form factor...
but...no camera flash for one thing, slower processor for another.....
I'll wait for the HTC Obsession
EDIT : sorry...the 'rumoured' HTC Obsession
Hi!
Just two questions after I have seen several photos of the new HD Mini (for example on neowin.net):
1. Is it possible to get exactly this colorful wallpaper as background image for the HD2 somewhere?
2. Does the HD Mini still have a page with DirectLinks/QuickLinks?
I mean the HD2 has 9 DirectLinks on its HomeScreen (by default, I know, and by applying some Mods it can be extended to even 75 DirectLinks) when sliding the finger from the bottom up. But I was not able to see such DirectLinks for applications or contacts on any of the images of the HD Mini.
Thanks in advance for your help!
DotWin
i have the hd2 and i will buy this also it is very brilliant device and small
Isn't a 3.2" a bit too cramped for typing, etc.?
Something like 3.6" would have worked much better, IMO.
as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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Isn't a 3.2" a bit too cramped for typing, etc.?
Something like 3.6" would have worked much better, IMO.
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kudos and well said - with no hard keyboard it comes down to the onscreen kb. i played with a hd2 and it's nice, mostly because of capacitance though - i hate my hd kb - maybe small onscreen kb with capacitance may work?
I too was very interested when I heard of the HD Mini but ultimately agree with all of the above posts. Just falls short in terms of size (and looks). I use my Touch HD as much for its PDA abilities as I do telecommumications. Fits my hand like a glove and I am happy using with either one handed or two. Give me the chance of a HD2 in the 3.8 screen Touch HD chassis and I would buy one now.
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as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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diamond 3 will be the same as hd2 but with 3.7 screen , better choice than hd2
HD Mini is for people who needs small WM phones, compared to the "big" HD2, anyway I like the backplate
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as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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I've allready pre-ordered one from here.
price: €389
arrival date: april 2nd 2010
Grtz,
Degake
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diamond 3 will be the same as hd2 but with 3.7 screen , better choice than hd2
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Have to agree with this and many other postings here; The Mini just falls short in looks, internal hardware specs, and the relatively small screen. What is needed is something like the HTC Desire (with WinMo) and it seems that the 'Diamond 3' will pretty much be this.
their choice of hvga (480x320) really baffles me... they could have at least put in a 640x480 VGA screen like the one from the diamond, wouldn't be a technological challenge would it?
Also, 480x320 seems like a weird aspect ratio...
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their choice of hvga (480x320) really baffles me... they could have at least put in a 640x480 VGA screen like the one from the diamond, wouldn't be a technological challenge would it?
Also, 480x320 seems like a weird aspect ratio...
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to make sense 2.5 working that fast they needed to make the processor scales graphics to a low resolution ,in this case 480x320
so guys, its been announced....the hd2 has been shrunk down in size. what are your thoughts?, do you new hd2 owners wish you had waited a while longer or are you happy with your king sized phone?.personally, id have got the larger model anyway, after owning a hd2(original) id never , or at least hope i never have to downsize again.is this new smaller size aimed for the ladies....? lol
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
HD2 > HD Mini.
I would like a smaller HD2 though, with a 4-inch screen or something. Even 3.8-inch. Because using the HD2 with a single hand is a little bit to much work..
But the HD Mini goes TO far. 3.2 inch screen is to small.
it is not the same. slower cpu, less ram. what makes You think it's the same but smaller???
old news, I posted about this yesterday...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634015
like the look but the HD2 owns it!!!
and my big question with this is....
why id it called a touch "HD" mini when sht screen is far from HD...
i know some will read that wrong and say that the hd2 isnt 720p or 1080p HD and all that but i mean in the broadest terms..
High Defenition... is HVGA High Defenition? me thinks not lol.
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and my big question with this is....
why id it called a touch "HD" mini when sht screen is far from HD...
i know some will read that wrong and say that the hd2 isnt 720p or 1080p HD and all that but i mean in the broadest terms..
High Defenition... is HVGA High Defenition? me thinks not lol.
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I agree... less screen, less cpu, less RAM, less ROM, hd2 mini? more of a hd1 mini.....
Well, it is called HTC HD mini, not HTC HD2 mini ...
Never heard of a WinMo HVGA device before... is this new in 6.5.3? If so, what about app compatibility? How many apps work on this new resolution?
Why make an HD-mini, when it is not much different from the Diamond2?
HD-Mini: more memory, slightly faster processor.
Diamond2: Better screen resolution.
Found some interesting stuff here, for example it is running WinMo build 23101.
I like my hd2 very much, why make it mini.
For those who like mini, take a mini
kk
Jack E said:
Found some interesting stuff here, for example it is running WinMo build 23101.
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What is the dude in the video even doing? I got so angry at him watching the first ~2 minutes that I just couldn't continue.
Noticed the start button is not present anymore.... (Since there is a start button and back already i assumed so no need to have them on the softkeys)only 2 softkeys on the taskbar each time... cleaner look i think. better than the 6.5.3 currently which would have 5 softkey biuttons most of the time... anybody know how we can do this???
hope i never have to downsize...but it seem the hd2 will be the last big phone..i hope not..
can the hd2 screen do four point multi touch (uses more than 2 fingers) or it needs another hardware
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can the hd2 screen do four point multi touch (uses more than 2 fingers) or it needs another hardware
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I do remember an app that someone wrote that showed the HD2 could recognize at least 3 different fingers on the screen at once.
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can the hd2 screen do four point multi touch (uses more than 2 fingers) or it needs another hardware
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The hardware is there. There's just no software capable of it yet. I'd be suprised if we don't get full multi-touch recognition apps at some point. (For people that don't understand what that last sentance actually means, please note that when I say full multi-touch I do not mean more than 1. I mean as many as you want.)
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The hardware is there. There's just no software capable of it yet. I'd be suprised if we don't get full multi-touch recognition apps at some point. (For people that don't understand what that last sentance actually means, please note that when I say full multi-touch I do not mean more than 1. I mean as many as you want.)
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aren't there any games that supports full multitouch for windows mobile or we should wait for for the wp7
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I do remember an app that someone wrote that showed the HD2 could recognize at least 3 different fingers on the screen at once.
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and if you remembered this application please post it here
johncmolyneux said:
The hardware is there. There's just no software capable of it yet. I'd be suprised if we don't get full multi-touch recognition apps at some point. (For people that don't understand what that last sentance actually means, please note that when I say full multi-touch I do not mean more than 1. I mean as many as you want.)
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why then there are posts saying that hd2 did HD2 uses the clearpad 2000 capactive touch screen which only supports 2 point multitouch
Humm im sure playing super mario on morph gear i can run and jump right+2 round keys
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Humm im sure playing super mario on morph gear i can run and jump right+2 round keys
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tis true, all my snes games support at least 2 points......
colinp said:
Humm im sure playing super mario on morph gear i can run and jump right+2 round keys
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then you used more than 2 fingers on hd2
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why then there are posts saying that hd2 did HD2 uses the clearpad 2000 capactive touch screen which only supports 2 point multitouch
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Clearpad 2000 are used on Nexus One and Android HTCs. Maybe HD2 uses another brand of touchscreen. I'm not sure though.
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clearpad 2000 are used on nexus one and android htcs. Maybe hd2 uses another brand of touchscreen. I'm not sure though.
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if only we can make a track fingure application to use it and see
any new progress (sorry for bumping but i want answers)
scilor.com/hd2-leo-real-multitouch.html
found this, but i can't get it to actually respond to multiple fingers
You might have to soft reset to get it to work. It won't recognize more than two fingers as documented elsewhere on here or on his site, guess he never got around to doing a lower-level hook.
Or is there a way to upgrade hd2 clearpad 2000 to 3000?
According to the Visual Multitouch Test App from the Android market, I can only use up to two points. I don't know if this is a restriction caused by the Android port, or if the HD2's digitizer/screen can only support two points at once.