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[Q] Should I upgrade to the Vibrant? $0.01 is a good deal but am I screwing myself

I am on Tmo now and WANT the Vibrant. My Nexus One is my daily driver but always want the new hotness. But I feel I may be screwing myself out of phones just a few months away. Dual core phones with the bleeding edge are more my thing and stock Android is also what I prefer.
Maybe you can sway me??

ju12zo said:
I am on Tmo now and WANT the Vibrant. My Nexus One is my daily driver but always want the new hotness. But I feel I may be screwing myself out of phones just a few months away. Dual core phones with the bleeding edge are more my thing and stock Android is also what I prefer.
Maybe you can sway me??
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Then when dual core comes and you almost buy it, there will be something better... its a non stop cycle, hell you may even be dead by then, buy it now and enjoy it .
I love my vibrant over my nexus one day, especially games

I'm not so much a gamer. Maybe I could be. Just all the talk about these near releases is keeping me from hitting purchase... Nexus was a no brainer at the time, it was the best (only 8 months ago) but they all are so close now.

with how android phones have progressed in the last 6 months, there will always be the greatest new supposed phone just around the corner. If one is available that you are happy with and is up to date with hardware, get it. Right now, besides the gps issue of course, the Vibrant is at the top of the list. hopefully Froyo and gps fix will keep it on top for a little while (sept hopefully)

the vibrant is awesome now, and once we get 2.2 froyo its going to be even better. get the vibrant, you wont regret it. and hell if in 6 months a better phone comes out and you like it. get that too.

Buy it, wait, sell it...
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My concern is T-Mobile 3G speeds.....In Chicago we are seeing just 1 mb/sec down, and that doesn't compare to the captivate getting over 3 mb/sec.....Is T-Mobile going crank up the speed on non hspa+ 3G phones? Will T-Mobile be competative with the Galaxy S phones?

elreason4 said:
My concern is T-Mobile 3G speeds.....In Chicago we are seeing just 1 mb/sec down, and that doesn't compare to the captivate getting over 3 mb/sec.....Is T-Mobile going crank up the speed on non hspa+ 3G phones? Will T-Mobile be competative with the Galaxy S phones?
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I am just curious what you are doing on your phone that makes you so concerned about speed...other than just liking everything maxed out.

Main Target said:
I am just curious what you are doing on your phone that makes you so concerned about speed...other than just liking everything maxed out.
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Download apps. View Web Pages. Tether. Mindyabusiness.
Sorry, I bet you use 56k and have a flip phone. Don't try to act cool and enlightened, like you know something about not wanting the best while falling into the same trap.

elreason4 said:
My concern is T-Mobile 3G speeds.....In Chicago we are seeing just 1 mb/sec down, and that doesn't compare to the captivate getting over 3 mb/sec.....Is T-Mobile going crank up the speed on non hspa+ 3G phones? Will T-Mobile be competative with the Galaxy S phones?
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I don't know about Chicago, but in the suburban Philly / NJ area I get 3-4 mbs routinely.
sent from my Vibrant.

ju12zo said:
I am on Tmo now and WANT the Vibrant. My Nexus One is my daily driver but always want the new hotness. But I feel I may be screwing myself out of phones just a few months away. Dual core phones with the bleeding edge are more my thing and stock Android is also what I prefer.
Maybe you can sway me??
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With that mentality you will never upgrade - get the Vibrant for a penny, in two years there def be better phones, but right now and probably for the rest of the year Galaxy S line will remain the top contender on the market.

One more day left..

For my Sprint 30 day guarantee. Tomorrow is the last day I can return my Evo and walk away without a termination fee. Im coming from Tmobile and have used just about all their phones and all iphones, and the Evo holds its own. I love the screen size, and its build quality. But the main thing ive liked is the 3g coverage, its no where near as fast as Tmobile in my area, but i do alot of highway driving and get 1mb plus everywhere. With Tmobile once i started getting away from the city it would drop to edge. I guess ill go play with tmobiles new Mytouch 4g and make my decision there. I just sold the g2 i had which i hated, but I still own my Vibrant and iphone 4 so i could always go back.
But so far what I Like:
Screen size!!!!!
Build quality!
Dual Flash
3g Coverage
Development support.
What I dont like:
Super amoled looks wayy better.
3g is slower but still fine (Evo= 1mb+ to Vibrant=5mb downloads)
Graphics Suck. Live wallpaper slows it down, and 3d gaming is barely playable
Sprints Customer service is no where near as good as Tmobiles.

Oh yeah after a talk with sprints retention departmnet, They waived my actication fee, and provided me with a credit of $50 since I mentioned the Evo could be acquired online for $150, just in order to keep my service. And right at the end when I mentioned I would continue to think about it, the rep offered me a $10 credit every month for the rest of the contract (24months). This would kick in on my next billing cycle.
My 27% discount would also kick in next bill, making my total bill $50 plus tax which is still a little more than if id return to tmobile

Kinda hard to argue with those discounts, not a bad deal right there.
But I can't understand how you like AMOLED screens more, YUCK! They always look odd to me, too blue or too vibrant and kind of pixel-y? They are more readable in some situations but still I think they look awful.

Not gonna lie... i really like the new myTouch. I am a fan of sense... also, hspa+ rocks in my area, and gsm is easier on battery than cdma. Add to that our wimax radios... lol, still love my evo though...

Is say they earned your business, man that makes me think I need to complain more..lol
The ten dollars off every month would more then compensate for the cost of the phone its self.
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After having the Evo I just dont see how i can ever own anything smaller than a 4.3in screen. Ill more than likely stick with The evo untill sprint or another carrier releases a highend 4.3in that isnt lock down. I do love the phone, just wished it could handle graphics better.
With the discounts im getting and the coolness of the Evo ill probably stick to Sprint for now unless the mytouch4g blows me away, which at 3.8in I dont think it will.
Now the Nexus S/2 could be interesting.

I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed by mod--
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.

Brutal-Force said:
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed--.
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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First off, nothing wrong with having all the latest and greatest phones out, it's by far the best way to find out which phone you personally like best. If I could afford it I'd do it too.
Second, evo is hardly the winner. All phones have their downfalls and can be considered better than others in their own right.
My nexus can be considered better than your evo for a number of reasons.
1. Google owns android. Nexus is google's baby. It is also a developers phone.when android releases froyo, gingerbread, etc. who is the first to get it? Me. Have fun waiting months for yours to update, or for some samsung owners, possibly never.
2. I'm hitting 60 fps, enjoy your 30 fps. You may have a bigger screen but can't fully enjoy it. Playing 3d games on the evo is atrocious.
3. Sprints 4g service had been highly touted this I know. But recent testing done by cnet, which I consider highly reliable and non bias; shows in NY sprints 4g getting 2-3mb whereas tmobiles hspa+ getting 5-6mb and it's not even considered true 4g lol but it doubled sprints. Now of course mileage will very.
Don't get me wrong, evo is a great phone. it's like having a portable theater in your pocket. It took me about three weeks of intense research comparing top phones on all carriers to reach a decision. I was hesitant to get the nexus considering how old it is, released in january. But it still using the same processor as many off the newer phones including evo, the 1ghz snapdragon. Yes your chip has been updated but mines still faster lol. And I like using a developer phone and getting updates before anyone else. Some may consider updates not that big of deal but froyo increased browser speed up to 30%, not something I'd want to wait months for to enjoy.
Oh and I have to say I love the trackball. Comes in handy for selecting text or other tight spots while browsing. I can also have it blink different colors: red for missed text, blue for missed call, green for voicemail, orange for email, purple for low battery, works for notifications as well.
It's nice having all this information without even turning on my phone.
This is officially by far the longest thing I've typed out on my nexus, got to love swype lol.

The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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magicriggs said:
The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy

I actually use the front facing camera a lot. I chat with other evo and iPhone 4 users. Given the ratio its pretty thin. And what's wrong with using the same processor. You want a better processor then go to Samsung galaxy s series. Good luck with the gps on there tho. Humming bird processor blows everyone out of the water. When I mean unlockable I mean the boot loader is not on lock down. And not everyone phone can flash sense, DX or D2 can't. Which are the newer phones comparable to the evo. You were seriously contemplating leaving Sprint to go with t-mobile cause of data speeds in a restricted area. Kinda of ironic cause the only thing that you sound to be proud of on the nexus is the processor speed. Processor speed don't mean **** if you don't got 3G or WiFi connection. Edge sucks on tmo and ill take Sprints 3G even tho I have the same processor as your sexi Nexi.

Scoobasteves: Evo is just as fps unlocked as nexus, that's old news.
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Brutal-Force said:
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --evil site removed by mod --
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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Are you in a bad mood man? Geez.
First I never tried driving their price down, I called about possibly porting my number and what the process is. The rep was the one asking questions and was being cool about wanting me to stay. So he offered me a discount.
And yes it's cheaper for me to go back to tmobile even with my 27% sprint discount. We have had a family plan with tmobile for 8 years, so adding my line back would only be $5 and an additional $30 for Internet.
Maybe I do have to much time in my hands, but I've never complained about prices or tried to brag about my phone being the best. I understand there are always new phones coming out and thankfully I have had the ability to try out a lot of them. I just like phones and the evo is among the best I have liked, but far from being a clear cut winner. I'm not one of those guys that think my phone is the best in the world and out down every other phone, i like to try out a lot of different phones if I'm able to, and enjoy it.
I guess I'll just enjoy my Evo and it's awesome screen size.

T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.

Jackk819 said:
T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine

2 year xda member and finally... reached my 100th post

Yeah I love the Evo probably one of the best phones I have used. I hear people complain that t-mo coverage is not that good in my area so that would be reason alone for me to stick with Sprint.

scoobasteves said:
Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
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Evo isn't restricted to 30fps anymore either
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amdchip said:
Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Never, they have free mobile to mobile any company, unlimited web and text for great price, sprint rocks
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I was not trying to badger the OP. As a matter of fact I am a former T-mo customer and was very happy with it.
Is the reason your plan a T-mo is cheaper because you are on a family plan there and not a family plan at Sprint? If thats the case then its apples to oranges.
To the Nexus Guy. It was a very good phone and I was seriously considering it when it finally became available on a plan rate. But that didn't happen till AFTER the Evo came out. I was on the phone with T-mo monthly to find out when that would happen. They could never give me an answer. So I took the plunge and got the EVO and never looked back.
T-mo's HSPA in my area is garbage. Seven guys I work (in Tampa) with have the Galaxy, and all of them claim 2-4Mbps. I get regularly 6.5Mbps. It may get better, but it isn't right now.
Processor? Seriously dude? if thats all you got with the Nexus, then you need to sit down. Developers phone? Seriously? Ever heard of Root? Oh yeah... all of T-mo's new phones are getting lock down. FPS? Spend more time on XDA preeze. Sprint unlocked it about 2 months ago. XDA did it even longer.
Nexus is a beautiful thing. But I am sorry, it is inferior to the EVO in about every possible way.

Nexus S if official!

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxUXulxE5o0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt6GboJAxbQ&feature=channel

Im torn, I dont want the phone because it doesnt really bring anything new and ground breaking to the table but then again the support for the devices is there

Carphonewarehouse does not deliver to rest of eu?

Best Buy will sell it in States and Canada.
$200 with T-Mobile contract; $530 without (same as nexus one).
I will get it and let go of nexus one.

no dual core, what about HSPA+?

mingkee said:
Best Buy will sell it in States and Canada.
$200 with T-Mobile contract; $530 without (same as nexus one).
I will get it and let go of nexus one.
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Canada? Are you sure? I doubt

id say the following are pretty significant upgrades:
- hummingbird (faster and less power consumption)
- s-amoled
- HSDPA+ support
- hopefully the fixed the stupid buggy "multitouch" panel
the only con really is if its more locked down like the current galaxy s

norazi said:
id say the following are pretty significant upgrades:
- hummingbird (faster and less power consumption)
- s-amoled
- HSDPA+ support
- hopefully the fixed the stupid buggy "multitouch" panel
the only con really is if its more locked down like the current galaxy s
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I can almost guarantee the touchscreen will be fixed. Galaxy S phones have tracking for up to 5 fingers at once, accurately and smoothly so if it's almost the same screen technology, it won't be a problem.
Aside from that... assuming the screen technology is the same except for the contour design, it'll probably be another pentile matrix (RGBG) AMOLED... which I'm sorry to say is far inferior to LCD's for reading text =(

so can some one officially say this is a TMO 4g phone? Im stupid when it comes to bands

wondercoolguy said:
so can some one officially say this is a TMO 4g phone? Im stupid when it comes to bands
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not a 4G phone...No HSPA+ at least not according to Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/googles-nexus-s-product-page-goes-live/#disqus_thread

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not a 4G phone...No HSPA+ at least not according to Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/googles-nexus-s-product-page-goes-live/#disqus_thread
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I thought hspa + was tmobiles "4g"

I feel the phone is not a big enough jump from it's predecessor looks and specs are good but it doesn't hold any wow factor. It seems just another smartphone imo shame really.

I agree we are on the verge of dual core phones with smarter power consumption....

slowz3r said:
Im torn, I dont want the phone because it doesnt really bring anything new and ground breaking to the table but then again the support for the devices is there
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Well, if there´s CyanogenMod support, that´s what counts for me

http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs

davados said:
I feel the phone is not a big enough jump from it's predecessor looks and specs are good but it doesn't hold any wow factor. It seems just another smartphone imo shame really.
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Have to agree. Nothing wrong with the phone, it seems OK. It just doesn't seem to really step things up, like the N1 did.
However, I hold out hope. There were rumors about Sammy having a dual core flagship, dropping right after the Nexus S. Rumor was the delay in Gingerbread had to do with it not being designed to support dual core processors, and the Honeycomb crew had to get together with the Gingerbread and make it play nice. Again, all just rumors. If true, I'm waiting to see their flagship device hit the FCC, and hopefully with pentaband hardware.

sooo temping!!! My Nexus 1 has a broken screen so i need a new phone but no duel core

It's £550 SIM free!
That's put me right off.

#Fail_______-
No Hspa+
No 720P recording
No SDcard slot
No Dual Core
Come on!!!

I'm not jumping ship just yet...

Played with a G2 this weekend [review]

gotta say.. its nice..
My buddy FINALLY got an Android phone. The G2. He decided on that over the Sprint Evo Shift 4g.
The phone is built quality. I like the way '4g' utilizes the 3g radio, and not a separate radio to toggle. Automatically switches to the faster network.
4g tests, both had full bars. The Sprint 4g was consistently faster by alot, 6.5mps vs 2.5mps although on 2 occasions the Tmo 4g reached 6.5mps as well. Latency was consistently much lower on Tmo.
The keyboard, it took the epic for me to take interest in keyboards again (after horror of PPC6700/PPC6800-mogul) Quite a different feel in the buttons. They are big, although the overall footprint is smaller than the Epic's. And they are mushy feeling. I feel a harder button reacts faster for quick button mashing style texting.
At least for me. But is something I could get used to. The hinge I do no see to be a problem at all either.
The phone itself is a little weighty. But that goes hand in hand with the strong industrial feel. The use of metal vs plastic feels of quality build. Makes you feel like it will break you, before you break it.
Screen size 3.7in Super-TFT, as coming from the mammoth Evo's 4.3in screen foundation, down to the pretty 4.0in found in the Epic; I didn't miss it. Those of you spoiled by the Samoled, one thing you wouldn't get over are the black levels. Not nearly as breathtaking..
800Mhz was pretty quick in stock form. Didnt notice a difference between the Evo or Epic's powerplant while stabbing at the screen and instantly having a reaction.
Charging time. Typical HTC, utilizing fast charge system. Noticeable much faster charging system than what is implemented in the Samsung Epic. Placement of the charging port is a bit cumbersome for one-handed use, [protrudes from left of device] as one may find it difficult to manage in the left hand. But when using the slider, the port is located at the bottom now and is free from obstructing your commands.
Compass, sensors, GPS, and magnetic shielding. As expected, the HTC had no problems locking on being inside the home. I have to make mention that the Samsung also had no problem locking on under the same conditions.
The compass in both were accurate, [using the Compass app free in market] but the compass was much more reactive to every movement. Though I suspect the 6 axis accelerometer in the Epic to be reason.
While still using compass, holding the phones side by side resulted in the Epic's compass to completely change course. The Epic is terribly vulnerable to interference, as the G2's compass stayed rock solid. I am willing to bet that this is the result of lack of magnetic shielding.
So there you have it, my impressions of the G2. I find it hard to believe that I will purchase a Samsung mobile device anytime soon. As to me, HTC is still the best manufacture currently of phones out today. Not talking about whats on paper, but under real world use.

hayabusa1300cc said:
gotta say.. its nice..
My buddy FINALLY got an Android phone. The G2. He decided on that over the Sprint Evo Shift 4g.
The phone is built quality. I like the way '4g' utilizes the 3g radio, and not a separate radio to toggle. Automatically switches to the faster network.
So there you have it, my impressions of the G2. I find it hard to believe that I will purchase a Samsung mobile device anytime soon. As to me, HTC is still the best manufacture currently of phones out today. Not talking about whats on paper, but under real world use.
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Nice review, I've been trying to get my brother off the IPHONE 3g and onto Android. The G2 might do it.

bomix said:
Nice review, I've been trying to get my brother off the IPHONE 3g and onto Android. The G2 might do it.
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Thank you for that, just wanted to express my experience with the device. But it turned into a review the more I went on lol.
Yes I know its hard to wing off the Iphone users lol.
I admit I am anti-Iphone but its because of facts and opinion, not fanboyisms.
But my bud always had the candy bar phones from cricket, sprint, tmo, and he always could not understand why I am on my phone so much. This was even back when I had the mogul, diamond, hero etc.
its been growing on him after I have shown him things on the Evo and Epic. He admitted its cool, but he would never use all that. He just needs a phone to make calls and text he stated. The Epic really did a number on him because he know how I wireless tether, how pretty the screen is etc and wanted a phone to do all that now lol.
He first decided to get the android device from Cricket, the Ascend, and was curious if it could do at least half of what mine did. Well the very spotty coverage shot that out lol. The reason he is not on Sprint with the Shift, is because he didnt wanna spend the extra money of of pocket (rebate)
But even at that, he is paying off the phone monthy like 20$ <- you can beat Tmo with payment plans for phones. Wished Sprint did this.
My bud is super happy, never puts the phone down lol. I am glad to be such an influence.

Nice review man... I like to see our phones compared with others even though it seems to loose this one with the build quality and such... good job.
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Maybe you should review the phone again and post it on youtube. My brother also has a ifail damn I mean iphone 3something. He can't stand the fact that android beats its in every way. Between the evo and epic kinda hard to say which phone truly owns the iphone
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definetly the epic apple sucks... and im not a fanboy I've had 3 ipod touches and in order to stand them I have to jailbreak with android you can do a lot more without rooting.
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Thanks for the kind words
I've never uploaded a video of me talking lol but I will practice while I give it thought

blackdragon79 said:
Maybe you should review the phone again and post it on youtube. My brother also has a ifail damn I mean iphone 3something. He can't stand the fact that android beats its in every way. Between the evo and epic kinda hard to say which phone truly owns the iphone
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I'd honestly say that the Epic owns pretty much every other phone...
... except for the build quality, support, and just the manufacturer in general. I must say that I love my phone. But, the GPS not working, the keyboard missing keys, and the crappy support just KILLS it.

I owned Htc MTS3gs and 2 samsumgs(Epic and Behold 2),i gotta say that from that expirience Samsung has better hardware and phones feel more solid,but MTS3Gs was so snappy and lag free for a 600mhz phone it was amazing even with Sense.
2G is only 3.7 screen and no Amoled so its no go for me.Until htc starts making Amoled screens im not fckin with them-i refuse to use regular lcd phone even if it has dual cpu and nvidia.

I got tired of my Epic missing keystrokes and Sprint's flaky 4G service so I switched to the G2.. Much happier. Here in Atlanta, HSPA+ is a steady 6mbps indoors and out, and like you said the latency is much lower.
If you want to jump ship to TMobile, this phone is being offered free with contract (I think) so it's definitely a good deal.
After dealing with the Moment and then the Epic's problems, I've gotta say that HTC is simply the better choice.

Thanks for that. I posted this morning, on my FB this: Debating ending my 8yr relationship with Sprint, and starting up TMO? I ended up with 58 replies in that thread. Yes I know I will miss the pretty screen, the hummingbird etc. but the G2 felt fast too. plus it can be OC beyond hell, takes advantage of JIT, Dev support etc.. its looking mighty fine lol
I gotta friend thats gonna hook me up with a good deal when i switch. gonna pickup the mytouch 4g for the baby mamma, and g2 for myself. BUT I will be back on the Sammy Vibrant 4G when that releases as it will utilized the UPGRADED HSPA+ 21mbps (and later on 41mbps)
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I got tired of my Epic missing keystrokes and Sprint's flaky 4G service so I switched to the G2.. Much happier. Here in Atlanta, HSPA+ is a steady 6mbps indoors and out, and like you said the latency is much lower.
If you want to jump ship to TMobile, this phone is being offered free with contract (I think) so it's definitely a good deal.
After dealing with the Moment and then the Epic's problems, I've gotta say that HTC is simply the better choice.
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Nice review, it is a nice phone. Just some input from a former Nexus One T-Mobile user. I absolutely loved my Nexus One but just could not put up with T mobiles spotty coverage hear in South Florida. It was almost unbearable. I truly believe carrier coverages vary from region to region but here in South Florida T Mobiles coverage was super spotty. Sprint coverage down here is definitely much better but I would love to see how the new T Mobile 4g coverage performs because Sprints 4g coverage is horrible! My phone is constantly going from 3g to 4g down here. Very annoying!
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Nice review.
I actually bought the G2 the day it released(it's early release) and I loved it...Honestly the only unappealing thing I can think of is the screen quality compared to the Epic. Nothing beats the epics screen. But the G2 Blows the EVO away IMHO.
Unfortunately I seem to live in a t-mobile black hole and couldn't stand not being able to use the phone at home so I turned it in and got the Epic.
I do miss that phone...

thanks for the input! where I live at home I get badass coverage for 4g with Sprint.
now very true, the coverage is verrrrry spotty.. it works here and there in a 0.2 mile difference in distance.. even look up the coverage map and that even shows it.. I will have 14 days to decide TMO works for my needs, where I live and around. (also hate that 4g drops on the epic under load)
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Nice review, it is a nice phone. Just some input from a former Nexus One T-Mobile user. I absolutely loved my Nexus One but just could not put up with T mobiles spotty coverage hear in South Florida. It was almost unbearable. I truly believe carrier coverages vary from region to region but here in South Florida T Mobiles coverage was super spotty. Sprint coverage down here is definitely much better but I would love to see how the new T Mobile 4g coverage performs because Sprints 4g coverage is horrible! My phone is constantly going from 3g to 4g down here. Very annoying!
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thank you sir,
yeah it will suck adjusting to the screen. also the camcorder quality I will cry over. I had the Evo release day. if you say it trumps the Evo then thats good..
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Nice review.
I actually bought the G2 the day it released(it's early release) and I loved it...Honestly the only unappealing thing I can think of is the screen quality compared to the Epic. Nothing beats the epics screen. But the G2 Blows the EVO away IMHO.
Unfortunately I seem to live in a t-mobile black hole and couldn't stand not being able to use the phone at home so I turned it in and got the Epic.
I do miss that phone...
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The only thing I hate about T-Mobile is the fact they don't offer unlimited data... they offer up to 5gbs.... so weak
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Who else is Returning their Atrix before 30 days are up?

The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.

I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.

Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.

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I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
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At least you have a 3GS. Do you know how horrible it is go from a fast, 1ghz phone, to a phone that's 400mhz with 128mb ram? Plus it's JB, so it's even slower.
I'm curious about iphone 5 as well, but it's going to take more than hardware to bring me back. I had an iPhone 4, and the antenna sucked. Also, I'm super bored with the OS. If the OS gets a major overhaul and the phone is better, I'll probably get it.
There is also the rumor about the HTC Revolver coming around Q3. Dual core, Android 3.0 (my guess is 2.4).
I'm actually really thinking about switching to VZW for the Tbolt. Except I hate VZW and have had a much more positive experience on AT&T. Except, at the current moment, they're only the 3rd fastest in Phoenix. Tmo and VZW LTE are faster.
Decisions... Decisions...

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Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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+1... Really need both when I travel...

i was thinking of returning mine because of the 2gb cap but i doubt i will
and since im able to get a steady connection from att and one that is fast and not bad like sprint and tmo it.
i believe that att and moto will push out the updates soon
its not like it samsung or sprint

I'll likely return mine. And too bad I sold my AT&T N1 today.

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The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
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Isn't the HSUPA+ of the Atrix is not compatible with the AT&T tower yet unless they turn the HSPA+ on?
I'm confused. Motorola is working on Skype compatibility now.

i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275

Not a chance.
I'm building linux (ubuntu) boxes as often as I can and to have a phone of the same ilk is quite nice. One that is this fast is quite the bonus.
Phone carrying corps won't do anything unless we vote no with our dollars. I know I'm not doing it. Switching to another company still shows you are hooked.
iphones are boring. Edit: Great designs, beautiful methodologies. Still, boring bar the eye candy.

I have 10 more days to decide. I'm really on the fence still. On one hand the hardware is amazing and blazing fast. Friends and family wow at the tegra hd games, hdmi webdock with out using the official moto dock, and the snappiness of the OS is great (granted its rooted, frozen and better optimized than stock form.) Also, the hope that the bootloader will be open in the future and custom roms made for it are a big wait and keep it flag for me. But on the other hand moto has left a bad taste in my mouth with the locked bootloader, and so has at&t with the HSUPA fiasco. But then I have to also hope that a more powerful or as powerful "community friendly phone" will be out soon as well, because anything else up till now doesn't boast this kind of hardware and speed in MY experience..... Decisions.

I already returned mine. Motorola made such an awesome phone and then teamed up with AT&T to completely cripple it! I fully trust AT&T will do everything they can to SCREW Atrix buyers. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
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There isn't a chance in hell apple does anything but incremental upgrades.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Everyone will still buy it. The iPhone 4 was an extremely large jump, this will be a nice step forward.
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i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275
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