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I've had an o2 mini s for about a week now and i'm pleased with it on the whole. My only real concern is battery life. My mini seems to drain much quicker than by xda 2 s which I had before. I seem to drop about 10% in 1 hour 10 mins and that's just a few calls/txts and minimum fiddling.
8:20 100%
9:42 88%
I've dropped all the o2 software and don't have any tricky 3rd party apps installed only;
xbar3 ( great btw )
avantgo wireless
ebook reader
tcpmp
I've read quite a few posts about battery life being good on this phone but i'm not seeing it. I'm still in my 14 day cooling off period and i'm considering sending it back for a replacement.
Jeff
Is Wifi off, bluetooth off. Do you check your email every ... minutes over GPRS?...
With email checking every 10 minutes my qtek battery last at least 2 whole days.
wifi/gprs/bluetooth all off - not used today
Just phone today - maybe 12 calls.
Time now 14:21 battery at 61% !
Now i'm worried ......I reckon i'll be down to 30% by this evening.
16:32 - 49%
maybe there are problems with these batteries i had problems with charging the battery it didnt seem to show correct level, sent it back for another unit
17:26 - 38%.
If another goes we'll be up here all day.
My battery life seems to be utter rubbish every time I charge my MDA Vario over the USB link. I can go to bed with 100% battery and find it dead by morning. This has happened two or three times since I bought it on 5th November. Last Saturday morning I had the USB cable connected to download some music to my SD card with 100% charge at 10:00. I played music for about an hour through the supplied headphones and by 13:00 I was down to 50% battery. By that evening I was down to a few %. I've read reviews that you you should squeeze about 10 hours of continuous music from this thing on one full charge so an hour of music and 7 hours of standby/sleep seems pathetic.
If I charge using the mains charger and sync over Bluetooth I get a standby battery life of about 5 days. Obviously that is shortened with use so in practice I am charging it every 2-3 days (no point starting a day with only 20% left!).
I have no idea why USB charging is completely hopeless. I have tried soft resetting or closing all active apps after charging, to make sure ActiveSync isn't actively running and causing a drain (just as you are advised to with a Bluetooth sync) but that seems to make no difference. USB charging is rubbish. Mains charging is the only way to go, IME.
21.50 - 24 %
Charging over USB hopeless
tdodd said:
I have no idea why USB charging is completely hopeless. I have tried soft resetting or closing all active apps after charging, to make sure ActiveSync isn't actively running and causing a drain (just as you are advised to with a Bluetooth sync) but that seems to make no difference. USB charging is rubbish. Mains charging is the only way to go, IME.
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I confirm USB charging IS rubbish. The reason seems to be that the power available out of that conector on a PC is not enough to charge properly... I had the same issue with BA and Himalaya...
Answer: get a USB charger / car charger that can deliver 1A minimum.
BTW I found a craddle for the Wizard in Dubai @ Plugins. It comes with USB port/cable + power adapter. Works like a charme.
Cheers,
Hal.
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My battery life seems to be utter rubbish every time I charge my MDA Vario over the USB link. I can go to bed with 100% battery and find it dead by morning. This has happened two or three times since I bought it on 5th November. Last Saturday morning I had the USB cable connected to download some music to my SD card with 100% charge at 10:00. I played music for about an hour through the supplied headphones and by 13:00 I was down to 50% battery. By that evening I was down to a few %.
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My C500 Did that when I had it Plugged in the Front USB ports on my case, I normaly had it plugged in to the onboard USB at the back of my pc with a usb ext cable so I could have it on my desk but I went off to a lan party and when I plugged everything back in I put my USB cable to front usb port and found it was Discharging my Battery instead of charging it, got my usb in Back port all is fine again now
Maybe you have yours in to the front USB port or non onboard port?
I use a laptop, which only has two USB 1.1 ports but they each supply enough juice to power a USB ADSL modem (not that I'm using one of those these days), which is more than some PCs will manage and also my USB hard drive, which my Shuttle won't. So there is no lack of power from the USB ports on the laptop.
Of course, the USB spec only permits a maximum current demand of 500mA so any equpiment expecting more should not be using USB for its power supply. In any event, the phone does charge from the USB ports, albeit very slowly, but eventually the orange charge light does go green. So my situation is not one of discharging instead of charging.
I've just swapped my ROM from Vario to k-jam so I'll see if that makes any difference to the performance. I know it's given me 802.11g, which was missing before.
I had an M500 briefly (Magician) on Orange that had very poor battery life, it was one of the reasons I ebayed it, gave the contract sim to my wife and started a cheaper better value T-Mobile account with an MDA Compact, which
had better battery life. Typically overnight after a full charge the Orange unit went down to 75% and the T-Mobile one was at about 98% on standby.
My Vario I have now, my other T-Mobile account has very good battery life and charges very well off USB. If I sync it in the morning whilst reading my emails and stuff, let it charge USb for about 25 mins, it'll be full and by the night it will have dropped down to about 80%. This is with about 30 mins of calls, about seven or eight emails sent/received and maybe 15 mins with WIFI on.
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I use a laptop, which only has two USB 1.1 ports but they each supply enough juice to power a USB ADSL modem (not that I'm using one of those these days), which is more than some PCs will manage and also my USB hard drive, which my Shuttle won't. So there is no lack of power from the USB ports on the laptop.
Of course, the USB spec only permits a maximum current demand of 500mA so any equpiment expecting more should not be using USB for its power supply. In any event, the phone does charge from the USB ports, albeit very slowly, but eventually the orange charge light does go green. So my situation is not one of discharging instead of charging.
I've just swapped my ROM from Vario to k-jam so I'll see if that makes any difference to the performance. I know it's given me 802.11g, which was missing before.
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do you have a link to the imate rom? is the vario rom also available?
sundip said:
do you have a link to the imate rom? is the vario rom also available?
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I can't remember for sure where I got the k-jam ROM ( I think someone saved a copy somewhere) but try here - ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/ - and then save file K-JAM_WWE_1010903_106_10110_ship.exe
That is a self installing upgrade that includes the whole k-jam ROM and k-jam extended ROM files.
I don't know where to get a Vario ROM from. I did back up my own copy (I hope) but the method is a bit whacky and as I only have a 1GB mini-SD card my ROM backup image is 1GB because the only way to secure the image is to dump the whole card to a file.
Before you go playing around do make sure you have your own backup of the ROM or if not the whole thing then the Vario extended ROM files at least. I'm using the k-jam ROM with the Vario Extended ROM.
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hal said:
I confirm USB charging IS rubbish. The reason seems to be that the power available out of that conector on a PC is not enough to charge properly... I had the same issue with BA and Himalaya...
Answer: get a USB charger / car charger that can deliver 1A minimum.
BTW I found a craddle for the Wizard in Dubai @ Plugins. It comes with USB port/cable + power adapter. Works like a charme.
Cheers,
Hal.
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Hi,
Is there any way to disable USB charging? I didn't connect USB very often since it will charge automatically and I don't like the battery be charged very often. It might kill battery soon. I like to sync with bluetooth; however it is much slower than USB. It's amazing if there is any tool to disable USB charging. Because it will sync fast and will not hurt the battery. Thanks for the suggestions in advance.
Cheers!
Michael
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Michael Lin said:
Is there any way to disable USB charging? I didn't connect USB very often since it will charge automatically and I don't like the battery be charged very often. It might kill battery soon. I like to sync with bluetooth; however it is much slower than USB. It's amazing if there is any tool to disable USB charging. Because it will sync fast and will not hurt the battery.
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You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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Dear Ineedtoys,
Thanks for the reply. I understand that there is no so called "memory effect" on Lithium battery; however when I checked the battery spec, I always found that there is a "charging cycle limitation". For example, a specific battery claimed that it can be rechaged 10,000 times, then very USB charging will be counted also. It will reach 10,000 times faster. This is my concern. I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can somebody help to clarify this?
B. Rgds.,
Michael
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Ineedtoys said:
You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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Dear Ineedtoys,
Thanks for the reply. I understand that there is no so called "memory effect" on Lithium battery; however when I checked the battery spec, I always found that there is a "charging cycle limitation". For example, a specific battery claimed that it can be rechaged 10,000 times, then very USB charging will be counted also. It will reach 10,000 times faster. This is my concern. I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can somebody help to clarify this?
B. Rgds.,
Michael
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Michael Lin said:
Ineedtoys said:
You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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Dear Ineedtoys,
Thanks for the reply. I understand that there is no so called "memory effect" on Lithium battery; however when I checked the battery spec, I always found that there is a "charging cycle limitation". For example, a specific battery claimed that it can be rechaged 10,000 times, then very USB charging will be counted also. It will reach 10,000 times faster. This is my concern. I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can somebody help to clarify this?
B. Rgds.,
Michael
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That's true. It's the same with Notebooks. The more you charge it, while it's in use, the faster the battery gets "killed"!
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Michael Lin said:
Hi,
Is there any way to disable USB charging? I didn't connect USB very often since it will charge automatically and I don't like the battery be charged very often. It might kill battery soon. I like to sync with bluetooth; however it is much slower than USB. It's amazing if there is any tool to disable USB charging. Because it will sync fast and will not hurt the battery. Thanks for the suggestions in advance.
Cheers!
Michael
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Answer my own question.
I am quite sure that the USB charging can be disabled since I used to see the config on a HP device. I also believed that this can be done by 'registry' since it is Windows tradition. I finally found it after a short study. Please go to
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
and change the
EnableUsbCharging to '0'
then
soft reset => Bingo.
Hope it helps.
Michael
For example if i leave all night charging, does it damage the battery? Some batteries after fullycharged, they wont charge anymore. What about u8800?
And what happens if i charge while phone is open and not fully empty? Does it damage?
My charge lasts 16 hours, why is it? I dont use wifi, games, etc. Please help
All ROMs should stop the charging process when reached 100% (the icon changes, on the stock ROM the flash disappears of the icon), therefore I believe that the battery cannot be damaged by leaving the phone plugged in the whole night.
I'm sure that it doesn't matter when you recharge the phone, if it's 10% or 50% it makes no difference to the charging process or the battery. It use to matter on the Li-Nch batteries, but those are long gone...
The fact that the battery only lasts 16 hours, it's an unrelated problem, that I've been struggling with for months now...It's one of the system/hardware components that hangs and doesn't allow the phone to go to sleep...therefore, the battery lasts up to 24h.
Look at this thread, so many users are affected by this...probably most of them and only the recent kernels (.void/Miui) have measures against this problem.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
I did not make any rom differences or overclock. Still stops the charging?
Sometimes i charge from pc via usb, can it damage?
It goes 16 hours without wifi or blueetooth or 3g. I dont use too much but goes for 16 hours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
Here, it is about sleeping mode. My phone goes black screen after 15 seconds idle. What is sleeping mode?
Cursed Chico said:
I did not make any rom differences or overclock. Still stops the charging?
Sometimes i charge from pc via usb, can it damage?
It goes 16 hours without wifi or blueetooth or 3g. I dont use too much but goes for 16 hours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
Here, it is about sleeping mode. My phone goes black screen after 15 seconds idle. What is sleeping mode?
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Charging from USB is somewhat preferable to wall charger, due to it charging slower, therefore generating less heat. Although, a wall charger won't do any harm. When the screen is off and the phone is not doing anything, the CPU is suppose to go into a deep sleep state, yet with this phone it does not.
wall charging should be preferable in my experience
Ok, let me clarify a few things here.
The battery recharging process is simple, when the battery reaches 2.2V, then the current inside is not enough to sustain the hardware and it's considered empty. Any standard phone charger, will pump current until the voltage is 4.3 and then the so called "negative delta v" signal is being sent and the charger stops pumping.
USB is a BUS designed to carry data, but to be able to carry data it needs to provide a power supply to the connected device. Therefore, any USB should be able to deliver 5V and 500mA to any device connected.
As this phone's battery, according to the wall charger specification, takes up to 1Amp, the simple math tells us that the wall charger will charge the battery twice as fast. Since I've been dealing with batteries, I can tell you that in this case USB charger is a much better choice to recharge this battery, as it delivers only 500mA. The less current going through the electrodes, the lower the chance of damaging the battery due to high temperature.
For more info:
http://www.mpoweruk.com/chargers.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_charger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
According to Wikipedia:
"Most modern cell phones, laptops, and most electric vehicles use Lithium-ion batteries. These batteries last longest if the battery is frequently charged; fully discharging them will degrade their capacity relatively quickly.[23] When storing however, lithium batteries degrade more while fully charged than if they are only 40% charged. Degradation also occurs faster at higher temperatures. Degradation in lithium-ion batteries is caused by an increased internal battery resistance due to cell oxidation. This decreases the efficiency of the battery, resulting in less net current available to be drawn from the battery."
These batteries last longest if the battery is frequently charged; fully discharging them will degrade their capacity relatively quickly.
So we must usually charge from usb and must stop before reaching %100 charge, maybe %98?
But when connect to pc, there is an icon shown, before disconnecting we need to click "disconnect secure" icon on system tray, if i dont do, it damages the system of phone?
Cursed Chico said:
But when connect to pc, there is an icon shown, before disconnecting we need to click "disconnect secure" icon on system tray, if i dont do, it damages the system of phone?
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There is a very small chance on XP, dunno about vista, no harm on win7.
So we should usually charge from usb and must stop before reaching %100 charge, maybe %98?
It is more safe since there is half of the current that passes compered to Charging with the AC adapter. But it theoretically takes almost double time.
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So we should usually charge from usb and must stop before reaching %100 charge, maybe %98?
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Yes, that's correct. But, I wouldn't worry about stopping before 100%. I know for sure that the stock ROMs are stopping the charging process when reached 100%.
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But when connect to pc, there is an icon shown, before disconnecting we need to click "disconnect secure" icon on system tray, if i dont do, it damages the system of phone?
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No.You're not going to damage anything by disconnecting the cable directly. That "safe disconnect" is only for data transfer, nothing to do with charging.
Because of the exploding nature of li-ion cells when misused, the battery itself has a protection circuit to prevent overcharge and discharge. So whatever how much the rom wants to charge, the battery will protect itself...
Exactly; the ROM does not have any influence on the charging process - that is why your phone can charge the battery even though it is turned off. The whole process is completely independent from the software your phone is running.
In 2011 it is very hard to damage a battery, it will most likely die from old age. There is just one thing that is not the best thing to do: Trying to switch on the phone when the battery is empty already. If the voltage of the battery drops below a certain point, the battery might be damaged and thus have less capacity afterwards.
To be on the safe side I always turn off the phone a few minutes before the battery is completely empty.
I agree that there is a separate circuit that does the charging, so no matter if the phone is on or off, battery would still charge. But, I believe that the Rom can interfere with the charging process, that's why on some Roms you get the flashing buttons when phone is fully charged or sometimes you can't unlock the phone from the first attempt, when battery is full.
In reality, i believe that charging process has 2 control points, the default (when phone is switched on) and the "failsafe" one that charges the phone when voltage has dropped below a certain value (which has to be is different in terms of current values, as there is no power consumption).
Hi, I use MyPhoneExplorer to write sms from my laptop (tried EasySMS and RemoteSMS and didnt like them) while using the cable-mode. JuiceDefender somehow always turns off the WiFi eventough i add the MPE-Client to the allowed apps. However, since my Desire HD would be connect via USB to my laptop all the time, is it bad for the battery?
I know that on laptops you should remove the battery if its connected to the AC all the time.
Thanks
IMHO any kind of battery will degrade with time if constantly connected to a power source. So if you connect your phone via USB you better keep an eye on your battery..
No. Your battery will not get worse. It is true that a battery will lose its capacity faster if its always at 100%, but we are talking about a mobile phone. It will not be connected 24/7 for many weeks at the time so thats nothing to worry about.
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zakazak said:
I know that on laptops you should remove the battery if its connected to the AC all the time.
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This is a myth. Might have been true in 1995 maybe but not with today's Li-Ion or Li-Polymer batteries. Just don't worry about battery, there is nothing you can do to make it better or last longer. Charge whenever you want to and be happy using your device It is the same as with memory optimizers and task killers - people are used to them from other times and other platforms and think they do good. Just don't let it discharge too much too often, they say that the best for batteries is to charge them when they're not below 40% of capacity (but even so, I don't think it matters much).
regards,
D.
I agree with dalanik, Li-Ion battery perform better if you charge it often. Actually it is bad if you keep discharging them all they way to 0 and then recharge them all the way up to 100%. It might be good in the old days where there were NiCd.
Sometimes the battery stat could be the answer. The problem with Li-Ion battery is if you overcharge them then they can explode so there is like a stat that tells how much you can charge upto, so if your battery stat is screwed up then your phone thinks it is at 100% but it might not be. Try this and this might improve your battery by retuning the stats (from HTC themselves)
The following steps should significantly extend the battery life on your phone. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once. If the issue of battery life on our phone persists, I recommend you contact our HTC accessory department directly.
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Hi guys I have been facing a strange issue whenever I install any windows phone 7 rom no matter what i do the phone refuses to charge using a usb cable or charger if i go back to android same usb and charger work fine for charging please advise
i noticed that too. on my pc it charges either VERY slow or not at all. because i left my hd2 on usb for 2 hours. it was only halfway full. i though i was going crazy good thing im not the only one who noticed this.
on the wall adapter it charges fine.
For me the above mentioned issue exists on all the roms
I think i found a workaround for people having issues while usb charging on wp7
This a bit of a hassle and has to be done everytime u see that the phone is not charging via usb
uninstall the driver for windows phone device from device manager and then connect the phone it will reinstall the driver and the led will turn red if it blinks that means its not charging
If anyone has this issue and needs detailed steps please let me know
XLordDeimosX said:
i noticed that too. on my pc it charges either VERY slow or not at all. because i left my hd2 on usb for 2 hours. it was only halfway full. i though i was going crazy good thing im not the only one who noticed this.
on the wall adapter it charges fine.
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For me the above mentioned issue exists on all the roms
I think i found a workaround for people having issues while usb charging on wp7
This a bit of a hassle and has to be done everytime u see that the phone is not charging via usb
uninstall the driver for windows phone device from device manager and then connect the phone it will reinstall the driver and the led will turn red if it blinks that means its not charging
If anyone has this issue and needs detailed steps please let me know
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I have never heard nor experienced the phone not charging on WP7 on USB. The HD2 takes longer than 2 hours for a full charge if it's at a point of total discharge or close to it. Even on WM 6.5 the HD2 usually takes about 3-4 hrs to fully charge after near total discharge.
Secondly, a blinking LED during charge (whether PC or wall) means your battery and phone are overheated. Overheating happens if you are using the phone while plugged in. Even if blinking it is still charging. Best to unplug until cool..then keep charging and not use the phone.
Buy a second battery and external charger.
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I have never heard nor experienced the phone not charging on WP7 on USB. The HD2 takes longer than 2 hours for a full charge if it's at a point of total discharge or close to it. Even on WM 6.5 the HD2 usually takes about 3-4 hrs to fully charge after near total discharge.
Secondly, a blinking LED during charge (whether PC or wall) means your battery and phone are overheated. Overheating happens if you are using the phone while plugged in. Even if blinking it is still charging. Best to unplug until cool..then keep charging and not use the phone.
Buy a second battery and external charger.
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Wow thanks a ton for the info
but i have a question if i connect the phone to usb the battery blinks and while connected the battery tool shows battery getting drained as well at the top the battery icon shows that the phone is charging. and then if I immeadeatly connect it to the wall charger the blinking goes away and battery tool shows charging active so what can be the issue any help would be appreciated
Also i have tried almost all windows phone 7 roms and my normal drain is -300 to -500 have tried rom with 5.51 and 5.12.50_02 radio as well along with the camera trick still the battery drain is high
Yesterday i installed wm6.5
task 29
install magldr
clear sd mbr
use last 24 nand
install wp7
booted and did camera trick
entered flight mode
still the drain is -150
I love WP7 and dont wish to go back to android sorry for the long post please help
WP on our Leo doesn't have a clue what its doing with the battery, its been an issue from the start.
best bet to get the most out of your device is to get yourself an external charger and spare battery.
even if you do get it charging via USB or the wall adaptor, it might not charge up the device, it might say its full but is only half full, or it might say it half full and its actually full.
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
Neolo said:
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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I really don't think its a "nobody cares" situation. We can be pretty confident that if a solution was at all possible it would have been found and implemented by now. The devs do a great job and i for one am blown away by the roms they produce and offer to to us free.
Every smart phone on the market has battery life issues which tells us even the manufacturers cant really get a grip on the issue either.
You could always hack a li poly bat to fit the HD2, of course that's only if you accept the risk it might swell up and catch fire while charging
i dont think kicking the devs and other forum members will make you many freinds.
Good luck
Neolo said:
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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its not about not caring, there are two issues at hand.
the first one is the phone wont charge when turned off, this might be fixable.
the big one is the battery controller, a battery in a phone has a small IC that controls the charge, temps, stats etc. The issue I believe is that the driver which WP users to control the battery controller isn't designed for our device.
The HD2 is similar to the HD7 but it is not the same. The issues we have with it are likely because the driver is either for another device or a basic test driver put together to "make do"
creating a driver isn't a matter of slapping a few files together. So your choices are to
A, give up on the HD2 WP7
B, Make do with what you have
C, Grab a spare battery and external charger
D, Fix the issue yourself, given that some of the most talented folk on here hasn't done this yet suggests this wont be easy!
Flashed 2.12 radio, can't say it's good now, but much better than was with 2.15. I think 2.12 + new battery with bigger capacity (2300) = pretty good solution for now.
Neolo said:
Flashed 2.12 radio, can't say it's good now, but much better than was with 2.15. I think 2.12 + new battery with bigger capacity (2300) = pretty good solution for now.
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except your 2300mAh battery probably wont work at all.
Theres been reported issues with extended batteries either A not working or B having issues, such as only charging part of it.
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except your 2300mAh battery probably wont work at all.
Theres been reported issues with extended batteries either A not working or B having issues, such as only charging part of it.
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Crap...
dazza9075 said:
WP on our Leo doesn't have a clue what its doing with the battery, its been an issue from the start.
best bet to get the most out of your device is to get yourself an external charger and spare battery.
even if you do get it charging via USB or the wall adaptor, it might not charge up the device, it might say its full but is only half full, or it might say it half full and its actually full.
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If your phone shows only a half charged battery icon after charging for the full few hours, shutdown the phone and reboot. Doing this shows the correct icon and can confirm via battery status app or battery tool app.
The thing is when you flash a new ROM, it takes the battery, phone, and WP a couple of charge/discharge cycles to get sync'd up and show the proper charges. The key is to let the battery drain until close to total discharge (don't let the phone shut off because of battery or you'll be hosed) then charge a couple of cycles.
Getting a spare battery and external charger is always a good suggestion no matter what.
Yes, restarts are always handy to get full charge, if you do kill your battery so you can't boot to windows, try put phone in bootloader, or magldr, it will charge in there, give it 20 min and windows will boot just fine
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Im having the problem that i cant recharge battery with a usb cable conected on a computer ...
It starts today, I'm hating this ****, coz i use the 3g of the cell on the computer. And the battery drops even conected with a usb cable.
Wat I need to do help me pls.
WandersonGD said:
Im having the problem that i cant recharge battery with a usb cable conected on a computer ...
It starts today, I'm hating this ****, coz i use the 3g of the cell on the computer. And the battery drops even conected with a usb cable.
Wat I need to do help me pls.
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have you tried a different usb cable and ports
or tried turning usb debugging on
Bro, i tested all ports, all cables... I cant find usb debug on stock rom... I even uninstall the app that i have instaled yesterday.... Don't know wat i can do.... Im not willing to do a factory reset.
Let me explain even better... I can charge my phone in the normal way... but i cant keep charging my phone on usb when i'm using the phone while charging.
WandersonGD said:
Bro, i tested all ports, all cables... I cant find usb debug on stock rom... I even uninstall the app that i have instaled yesterday.... Don't know wat i can do.... Im not willing to do a factory reset.
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Go to settings, about hit the build number 6 times that will activate developer opinions USB debugging is in there
There is probably a hardware connection issue. I believe you don't need a driver just to recharge thru usb. Are you able to make data connection to your pc using usb cable?
Your USB port will charge at a slower rate using PC-USB , if you're tethering the phone is probably discharging faster than the computer is charging - if you're on KK for example screen on will use 1700MHZ if in use so quite a drainer, Failing that, it's possible it's a faulty USB from either the computer or the device.
I'm able to make data conection with my phone and usb...
And like i said, I didn't have this problem until today... I think it coz i install crack app, or put a new sd card.
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I'm able to make data conection with my phone and usb...
And like i said, I didn't have this problem until today... I think it coz i install crack app, or put a new sd card.
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It's possible they may be causing it, the cracked App could be running anything in the B/G of your device keeping it awake hence USB not charging it as it's in use. Uninstall it (and support the Dev by buying it!!) see if it makes a difference.. Another thing is check your wakelock/battery use.. Media scanner might be eating up your battery.
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It's possible they may be causing it, the cracked App could be running anything in the B/G of your device keeping it awake hence USB not charging it as it's in use. Uninstall it (and support the Dev by buying it!!) see if it makes a difference.. Another thing is check your wakelock/battery use.. Media scanner might be eating up your battery.
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Already uninstall it, same same.
Probably its Media scanner, coz I put 4.5gb of music and 1gb of photos and videos yesterday... How can i control it ?
You have to let it index the files - it varies on how long it takes, but it should reset OK on your next battery cycle at least.
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You have to let it index the files - it varies on how long it takes, but it should reset OK on your next battery cycle at least.
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Index Service and google services are consuming the most of my battery... So I have to w8, correct ? But it takes soh long, like days ?
OK, this is very simple but you need to figure out which of the following problems is yours:
1. phone is not charging at all
2. phone is charging, but at slower rate than it is discharging
1 you can test by noting battery level, shutting it down and let it charge for an hour or two, or even overnight. USB 2 should give you about 400-450 mA, battery has capacity of 3200 mA, so figure in about 8 hrs your batt.should charge from 0% to 100%. or about 10% -15% an hour.
2 you can test by watching how much discharge you have overnight: I normally have 3% -5% discharge over 7-8 hrs night, when phone is not used, but on.
If your phone discharges more than 20-30% overnight, then it will take forever to fully charge and at above about 70% discharge, it will never charge fully, since discharge rate is similar to charge rate. If that was the case you need to find what is responsible for such high discharge rate. As somebody else already mentioned if you're using phone while charging, the screen alone will take as much power as the charge can deliver, so in that case the best you can hope for is slower discharge.
pete4k said:
OK, this is very simple but you need to figure out which of the following problems is yours:
1. phone is not charging at all
2. phone is charging, but at slower rate than it is discharging
1 you can test by noting battery level, shutting it down and let it charge for an hour or two, or even overnight. USB 2 should give you about 400-450 mA, battery has capacity of 3200 mA, so figure in about 8 hrs your batt.should charge from 0% to 100%. or about 10% -15% an hour.
2 you can test by watching how much discharge you have overnight: I normally have 3% -5% discharge over 7-8 hrs night, when phone is not used, but on.
If your phone discharges more than 20-30% overnight, then it will take forever to fully charge and at above about 70% discharge, it will never charge fully, since discharge rate is similar to charge rate. If that was the case you need to find what is responsible for such high discharge rate. As somebody else already mentioned if you're using phone while charging, the screen alone will take as much power as the charge can deliver, so in that case the best you can hope for is slower discharge.
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My case is 2. phone is charging, but at slower rate than it is discharging, AND only on USB, on energy socket is totally normal...
I don't know, i wish my phone is indexing, coz yesterday I put tons of pdf, photos, musics and videos, but why it taking so long to index, is it normal?
My problem is so serious that if I put the phone on usb and let it away sleeping, even like that the phone slowly descharges.
Well, maybe this is the answer : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461958
I will wait little longer to see if its continue indexing.
Sorry can''t help much with indexing, it's the first service I shutdown on all my computers and phone as well, I would imagine you have to wait it out until it's finish or root and shut it down, I don't know about you, but I very rarely search my own files, to the point it's not worth it even if the impact of indexing was miniscule. In the meantime can you force shut it down at least when not charging from outlet? Possibly it will restart, even before next boot, but maybe long enough for phone to charge.
Well i fix my problem. But I'm not satisfied.
Wat you need to do is ERASE all your PDF data. PDF files has a king of a problem with indexing on note 3.
Of course if you have a rooted device, you will have more options.
I'm not satisfied because i can't have my pdf classes on my phone, where i like to study. At least all in once.
TY FOR ALL THE CONTRIBUTION.
I think you give up too fast, you bought expensive phone, why not use it to it's full potential? One option would be to root and freeze indexing like I did. I'm not sure if that would disable searching for words all together or just slow it down, but I think that's better than nothing. Another option which I just thought of now, kind of crazy idea, but maybe it would work, rename file extension, instead of file.pdf use something like file.123 or maybe even file extension that should not be indexed like .jpg or .png. Hopefully indexer will not read file header and just skip it. When you need to read it just force open with some pdf reader, no idea if it will work but try. Another way, maybe it won't index compressed files like zip and again I don't use it so don't know how it would work in real life, but just couple ideas to try.