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Really hard decision

Root or Not. Soooo hard
I've read how to do it and all the benefits and i really really want to but then again i read the "Broken phone " threads and it makes me indecisive.
When did you guys root your phone? (How long after receiving it)
What do you guys think?

Just did root on mine today, after almost 2 months. Couldn't resist any longer. So far so good. This thing is a lot faster, and noticeably smoother.

I waited a month... i let the phone get accustomed to my lifestyle and see if the normal use i give it would keep it intact and it was fine so i was satisfied enough to root it... personally i would just wait till the 14 day return period and after that go for it
and keep in mind, its like losing your virginity, once its gone its gone

I rooted mine from day one

within 1 hour of receiving the phone..

I still have not rooted mine... but I am ][ close to doing it!!

I've had the phone since a week after it was released and I have not rooted. So far there's nothing compelling enough to want me to switch.

There is absolutely ZERO reason to root unless you want some/all of the features in the CyanogenMod rom or want to try the Desire rom. (Look in Nexus One -> Development for their respective threads.)
Do you want/need either of those?

Paul22000 said:
There is absolutely ZERO reason to root unless you want some/all of the features in the CyanogenMod rom or want to try the Desire rom. (Look in Nexus One -> Development for their respective threads.)
Do you want/need either of those?
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Or if you want a nice speed boost.

wifi tether?

Paul22000 said:
There is absolutely ZERO reason to root unless you want some/all of the features in the CyanogenMod rom or want to try the Desire rom. (Look in Nexus One -> Development for their respective threads.)
Do you want/need either of those?
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Lol...what??
I'm using Enoms TheOfficial ROM because it's more stable than Cyanogens. I use Cyanogens Kernel but that's it. There are so many reasons to Root. Cyanogen isn't a God like people make him out to be. He's a really good developer, don't get me wrong but his perception is a little over the top [which doesn't have anything to do with him personally, it's his followers].
Many reasons to root are underclocking, Tethering, Cyanogens Kernel that gives me around 300mb RAM free vs Stock being at around 120mb. Some apps require root like Nexus One Torch which is very helpful. I think the number one reason is to have a more reliable and stable ROM. Enomther and Cyanogen are good at working out the bugs and eliminating the excess coding.
I rooted my phone after 3 days because I wanted to make sure I didn't get one of the devices that had dust under the screen. After 3 days I was sure it was fine. Also I spoke with a Google employee that told me that they have had multiple instances that have had rooted devices replaced under warranty that had obvious hardware defects.

If you like to customize then rooting is for you, it opens up a whole new selection of mods/themes etc. I also found the speed increase even without overclocking to be pretty awesome

getting rid of amazon mp3 was enough to make me root
It's fairly simple and risk free in my experience

Why Root?

Hi, all.
I am completely new here, and have heard many users talking about how **update** only works on rooted devices. I would like to know what the advantages and disadvantages of rooting my phone would be, considering I have a phone with warranty and insurance from the supplier.
Thanks in advance to all users who can help.
Andy

Tethering, Custom ROMs with optimised performance, Take Screenshots of your phone... are the usual reponses you will get.
Personally, none of these are really important to me. The main reason I rooted is the fact that one day HTC will stop producing official updates for your phone (it seems 2.1 is the last for Hero users). But with root, you can soon flash on Android 2.2 (CyanogenMod 6).
If you dont want to void your warranty just yet... wait til you are desparate for 2.2

Thanks for the reply, but seen as it seems the only disadvantage is voiding the warranty, surely it is a good idea to root as I have insurance, which should cover all things covered in the warranty?
EDIT: Does rooting keep the sense UI?

Hey Andyt95.
As mobydeek has pointed out, there is definately a reason to root your Hero and rooting will only enhance your device. I'm not sure about this (somebody else will have to clarify for me)..But even if you was to root your device, you could, in essence, revalidate your warranty by flashing back to an older ROM (RUU) which in essence resets your entire phone back to how it was.
Anyway, before I confuse you - Rooting more or less means gaining full access to your phone..that's it pretty much, meaning that nothing else changes apart from the fact you can do more with it if you so desire.
Once your phone is 'rooted', you'll be able to 'flash' custom ROM's which will get the most out of your phone..including overclocking! (if you wish to, not compulsary).
Alot of the people from around these parts root their devices the same day they buy them. It's definately a plus thing and something that I definately recommend doing if you wish to see the better side to your Hero.
If at all you do wish to progress, there are plenty of people that will be more than happy to guide you along the way - including myself. Take a look around, see what you think and go from there.

To root or not to root?

I know most people are gonna tell me I should root my phone, but just hear me out really quickly...
I just got my Samsung Vibrant and I truly love the phone. It's a huge upgrade from my G1 in pretty much every way I can think of. I had my G1 rooted since like the second week I had it. I started off with JesusFreke's ROMs and then made my way to Cyanogen's ROMs with a few others that I tried here and there. I tried a bunch of different themes and I used quite a few root apps. I know my way around the rooted Android scene (or at least the rooted G1 scene) pretty well, but I'm not entirely sure if I want to root my Vibrant and here's why:
I'm afraid of voiding my warranty.
There's not really anything that I want to do with the phone that it can't already do (for example, it has plenty of space for apps without the need for A2SD).
I don't want to risk losing things like my text messages over and over again from switching to different ROMs (this happened to me quite a bit with my G1).
My G1's battery and overall performance were much much worse than my friends' G1s which were not rooted. I don't want this happening with my Vibrant.
Some people will think that these reasons are either unimportant or nonexistent, but I disagree. Again, before people start saying "these are the risks of rooting, deal with it or leave," I want to stress that I'm not a newbie at this.
Anyway, the main reason that I DO want to root the phone, regardless of the fact that I told myself I wouldn't, is because of all this junkware that T-Mobile preinstalled the phone. I didn't know the phone came with this crap (like GoGo, TeleNav GPS, Slacker, etc.). We all know that you can't remove this stuff without rooting...I've counted 11 apps that I want to remove from the phone because they're effectively advertisements and I don't want them. So before I make a decision, I'd like to ask some questions...
Would you root the phone if you were ME?
Is it possible to root the Vibrant, remove the apps, and then unroot it, thus leaving the apps gone?
If not ^^, then is it possible to root the Vibrant and keep the stock ROM? I really don't want any custom ROMs...I just want to remove the junkware.
I'm sorry if similar questions have been asked before, but I feel like my specific needs and concerns probably aren't shared by most of the XDA community so I created my own post...
Thanks,
Gerard

actually I think what most are going to say is search the forum... There are several threads on the topic.
You don't have to add any roms if you're rooted. Yes you can remove the bloatware with root. Yes its easy to take your phone out of root, but with the bloatware missing its not hard to see that you have had root at one point.

I actually did root my phone just to remove the junkware....and then used titanium backup to remove what I didn't want....it took me 3 mins to root compared to the 15 mins it took for my nexus....i say its worth it....you can't even tell its rooted so I'm pretty sure the warehouse will never catch it if a exchange is ever needed.....you ll personally make up ur mind as soon as u see the cyanogen 2.2 rom come out hopefully that will be soon....I SAY GO FOR IT
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I'm not bothering to root while I can still return the phone (1st 30 days) and not all the HW issues are know. Once a decent custom ROM is available I'll start looking into rooting, customer recovery, etc. The only thing I'm missing a bit from not being rooted is my Wifi tethering...

Thanks for the replies, guys (and/or girl(s) it looks like lol). I'm glad I wasn't destroyed by people telling me to search the forums...
I'll probably end up doing root sooner or later with very few modifications (if any). I'll wait it out a bit, though. My questions have been answered.
Thanks again!
Gerard

[Q] Why should I root my Atrix? Request feedback from people with a rooted Atrix

As my question implies, can anyone break it down for me as to why it is a good move to root my phone? I'm on AT&T right now, with ADW EX home launcher. I'm happy with the overall speed. Can you list out some advantages of rooting? I'm not looking for the general reasons to root, I want reasons SPECIFIC to the Atrix on AT&T. Sideloading and Amazon app store are the only two reasons I have so far. What is the advantage in terms of battery life, speed, stability, overheating etc? What about compatibility with future motorola updates? Thanks!

sideloading and amazon app pretty much sums it up for now, and the ability to install psuedo roms like gingerblur and Gladiatrix
Oh. that brings me to the second point, rooting lets you remove bloat apps and install apps that need root, like this new app I'm trying called LBE Security Service.
Later on, when custom roms and kernels are made, you'll have to have Superuser access (root) before you can access those parts of the data.
Advantages in terms of battery life, speed, stability etc? It depends on the rom you load. Some roms may boast extended battery life/speed and if you install those, you would have those extra features. For now, since we have nothing of that sort, you will remain stock with root, but you'll be ready if/when something comes out.
Last word, I say root it. It lets you customize your android experience. You can install new fonts, remove that ATT bloatware, and you can sideload (try out betas, etc)
(Oops, real last word)
Compatibility with future updates? You'll probably have to flash with SBF to update from now on instead of OTA, but thats a preference anyway. In the end, you will be able to update fine, so don't worry about it. Though if you are lazy to do research and actually invest time into your phone, I say don't root it because theres no point. If you want to experience android in its fullest and customize as much as you can, ROOT is the only way.
Hope I hoped.

Rooting Advantages:
-Sideloading
-P-ROMS (basically an enhanced theme)
-Custom Themes
-Custom Apps such as Applanet(best app you'll ever come across)
-Battery life is extended a bit, nothing drastic though
-Speed seems be a bit better, nothing greatly drastic
-The heat production is pretty much the same
-Memory does free up a bit more (mostly in the P-ROMS)
-Bloatware removed (lots of useless ****)
Disadvantage
-issues with P-ROMS, sometimes when installing they work properly and sometimes they don't.
-Root access sometimes lost if unused for a long period of time.
I'd say wait until the bootloader either gets hacked or bypassed because you'll save yourself tons of heartache.

Mafisometal said:
-Root access sometimes lost if unused for a long period of time.
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I never heard that!
Well About root, you can make your phone really yours adding new features or customizing everything you want: You can add support for Cisco VPNs, enable hotspot and sideloading, change the clock speed of your phone processor, and so on!

chaitu45 said:
As my question implies, can anyone break it down for me as to why it is a good move to root my phone? I'm on AT&T right now, with ADW EX home launcher. I'm happy with the overall speed. Can you list out some advantages of rooting? I'm not looking for the general reasons to root, I want reasons SPECIFIC to the Atrix on AT&T. Sideloading and Amazon app store are the only two reasons I have so far. What is the advantage in terms of battery life, speed, stability, overheating etc? What about compatibility with future motorola updates? Thanks!
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Dont. No reason for you to root.

If you haft to ask a question like this than dont

Mafisometal said:
Rooting Advantages:
-P-ROMS (basically an enhanced theme)
-Custom Apps such as Applanet(best app you'll ever come across)
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*P-roms are not just enhanced themes. They include tweaks and mods in them.
*Applanet promotes piracy and hurts the developers communities. Promoting it in XDA is prohibited by the way.

Mafisometal said:
Rooting Advantages:
-Sideloading
-P-ROMS (basically an enhanced theme)
-Custom Themes
-Custom Apps such as Applanet(best app you'll ever come across)
-Battery life is extended a bit, nothing drastic though
-Speed seems be a bit better, nothing greatly drastic
-The heat production is pretty much the same
-Memory does free up a bit more (mostly in the P-ROMS)
-Bloatware removed (lots of useless ****)
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Reported for promoting theft (Applanet)
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CaelanT said:
Reported for promoting theft (Applanet)
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Childish.
While I don't agree with people using App Planet and ripping of developers, he never said "download app planet and get all those awesome apps for free" or "you can steal em!"
He answered the guys question based on his beliefs and not ours. You can not fault him for telling the truth as he sees it.

DarrellRaines said:
Childish.
While I don't agree with people using App Planet and ripping of developers, he never said "download app planet and get all those awesome apps for free" or "you can steal em!"
He answered the guys question based on his beliefs and not ours. You can not fault him for telling the truth as he sees it.
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"(best app you'll ever come across)" is more than just a recommendation.
Why you think he told the OP applanet is the best he will ever come across? What is it applanet has to be that? think about it and be logical.

CyberPunk7t9 said:
"(best app you'll ever come across)" is more than just a recommendation.
Why you think he told the OP applanet is the best he will ever come across? What is it applanet has to be that? think about it and be logical.
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I have thought about it. The OP asked a question and to the person who answered, he answered honestly and told him what he thought.
Remember, our right is sometimes someone elses wrong, and vice versa. It all depends on perspective.
He may have said applanet, but he never said download it. All I am saying is it was childish for him to be reported for mentioning the app and that he uses it. It would be much the same as someone admitting the downloaded mp3s from a torrent site. Just because someone mentions one, it does not mean he is telling people to go to that site and download music he has not paid for and has no legal right to do it.
Besides are we not on a website that has software dedicated to screwing over our carriers and voiding our agreements with the carriers? You can not call foul on one person and not the others.
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DarrellRaines said:
I have thought about it. The OP asked a question and to the person who answered, he answered honestly and told him what he thought.
Remember, our right is sometimes someone elses wrong, and vice versa. It all depends on perspective.
He may have said applanet, but he never said download it. All I am saying is it was childish for him to be reported for mentioning the app and that he uses it. It would be much the same as someone admitting the downloaded mp3s from a torrent site. Just because someone mentions one, it does not mean he is telling people to go to that site and download music he has not paid for and has no legal right to do it.
Besides are we not on a website that has software dedicated to screwing over our carriers and voiding our agreements with the carriers? You can not call foul on one person and not the others.
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I agree with what you're saying on the general level and not just specifically our topic here.
All what we're saying plain and simple.. XDA does not allow warez/applanet topics.
You can find many closed topics like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022363
This could have been avoided. OP's questions were about rooting. Applanet does not even require it.

CyberPunk7t9 said:
I agree with what you're saying on the general level and not just specifically our topic here.
All what we're saying plain and simple.. XDA does not allow warez/applanet topics.
You can find many closed topics like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022363
This could have been avoided. OP's questions were about rooting. Applanet does not even require it.
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Oh I know it's against the rules and I have a huge problem with people not paying for their apps.
I am just not a big fan of the pot calling the kettle black. Technically using pdanet or any of the free tethers to bypass our carriers system is the same as screwing a good developer out of money.
The fact that we will report someone for mentioning applanet while many still do other methods to screw someone over, well it seems childish. Maybe I should just shut up and move on, but then I would feel wrong for not saying something.
However on topic, if you don't know why you should root, then you shouldn't consider it. Rooting will not make your experience with your phone any better or worse. It just allows you to install a few apps such as the amazon store and those found here on XDA on your phone. Technically you can do more with it, but the pros do not often out weigh the cons. Unless you have a need, don't bother with rooting.

xredjokerx said:
sideloading and amazon app pretty much sums it up for now, and the ability to install psuedo roms like gingerblur and Gladiatrix
Oh. that brings me to the second point, rooting lets you remove bloat apps and install apps that need root, like this new app I'm trying called LBE Security Service.
Later on, when custom roms and kernels are made, you'll have to have Superuser access (root) before you can access those parts of the data.
Advantages in terms of battery life, speed, stability etc? It depends on the rom you load. Some roms may boast extended battery life/speed and if you install those, you would have those extra features. For now, since we have nothing of that sort, you will remain stock with root, but you'll be ready if/when something comes out.
Last word, I say root it. It lets you customize your android experience. You can install new fonts, remove that ATT bloatware, and you can sideload (try out betas, etc)
(Oops, real last word)
Compatibility with future updates? You'll probably have to flash with SBF to update from now on instead of OTA, but thats a preference anyway. In the end, you will be able to update fine, so don't worry about it. Though if you are lazy to do research and actually invest time into your phone, I say don't root it because theres no point. If you want to experience android in its fullest and customize as much as you can, ROOT is the only way.
Hope I hoped.
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Thank you for the informative and thorough response. I'm an avid Android user since 1.5 and have rooted older Android phones many times. My intention with asking this question was to understand if the Atrix truly benefits from rooting or are users rooting it for bragging rights. The troubles I've faced with custom ROMs for previous android devices were many, ranging from innumerable patches and add-ons to multiple FCs regularly. Since the Atrix is my primary phone I would prefer stability in a custom ROM as opposed to features which I won't end up using often like HDMI mirroring (this is a personal opinion, i'm sure other users have other requirements).

chaitu45 said:
Thank you for the informative and thorough response. I'm an avid Android user since 1.5 and have rooted older Android phones many times. My intention with asking this question was to understand if the Atrix truly benefits from rooting or are users rooting it for bragging rights. The troubles I've faced with custom ROMs for previous android devices were many, ranging from innumerable patches and add-ons to multiple FCs regularly. Since the Atrix is my primary phone I would prefer stability in a custom ROM as opposed to features which I won't end up using often like HDMI mirroring (this is a personal opinion, i'm sure other users have other requirements).
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IMO a custom ROM is not necessary. Stock Atrix + root + one of the launchers is more than enough. My phone is rooted so that I can enable sideloading/Amazon app store and also for Titanium backup to backup everything. The other 'fun' stuff like hdmi mirroring, hulu, etc are ok but not must haves.
edit: root also so I can put my ringtones in /system/media/audio/ringtones and not lose ringtone assignments every time the phone sdcard and sdcard-ext unmounts/mounts.

You do not need to have root permissions to remove ATT bloatware. With latest OTA, they removed root requirement to uninstall their software, but they haven't done anything to allow us side-loading. I hope that this will be addressed in the next OTA.

I am a new android user (Atrix first Android phone) and I have enjoyed the rooting experience. Root explorer is worth the price of admission imho and the other day I had a problem that I couldn't fix without a rooted phone. (now using autostarts to prevent music on my device playing automatically when the phone connects to my truck via bt). And I like the control I have over my phone since it is rooted (freezing apps, etc).
In regards to updates how hard it is depends on how you mod your phone. If you do the webtop hack you will have to put the oem files back prior to updating. If you have apps frozen I believe you need to thaw them. Other than that it is just a matter of preserving root (which means about 5 minutes using adb to hide root and then after you update restoring it; no big deal)

chaitu45 said:
As my question implies, can anyone break it down for me as to why it is a good move to root my phone? I'm on AT&T right now, with ADW EX home launcher. I'm happy with the overall speed. Can you list out some advantages of rooting? I'm not looking for the general reasons to root, I want reasons SPECIFIC to the Atrix on AT&T. Sideloading and Amazon app store are the only two reasons I have so far. What is the advantage in terms of battery life, speed, stability, overheating etc? What about compatibility with future motorola updates? Thanks!
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Control. You do not have it ATM. Rooting is exactly that, the most possible control you can gain over the phone, software wise.

#1 reason I rooted my atrix is simply to add a custom rom onto it. I don't like the look of the stock motoblur so I got rid of it asap.
i'm sure there are tons of reasons to root the phone but if you're afraid to do it because you might brick your phone or something there's a lot of tutorials that will guide you step-by-step on how to do it. I actually made a tutorial myself.
that's for the actual rooting process and if you need to downgrade your phone here's the other part of it. doing a fresh SBF Flash.

ok i'm not sure why my youtube links came out like that and i'm not sure how to fix it either any help from anybody?

Rooting Fans Rejoice!

It's about S20s Exynos 990 powered phones of course, but looking at the 5G/LTE bands configuration needed here for the US, some of the phones can run Tmo Mvnos. I'd think. As for 4G they appear to have it all. Imagine the possibilities of having ROM development on S20 Ultra. We should wait and see how much S20s phones, imported from India, Singapore or UK, will go for later on on eBay:
https://www.techwalls.com/?s=Samsung+Galaxy+S20+Ultra
02/18/20 updateFound out that the techwalls.com list has some errors i.e. the Korean SM-G988N has actually a Snapdragon in it and not Exynos, I think they just copied whatever list like, from Note 10?
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1232050

and will have locked bootloader

Root? Sure, roms? Doubtful. Also Gcam port will never work on the exy. I bet the gcam port on Snap will be better than the stock Samsung cam app. I think I am done rooting for now. Samsungs SW is very good now. As long as substratum works for theming, which it should, I will be happy.

If we can root and bootloader unlock, the pixel os will be sweet on this phone. buttery smooth

lucky_strike33 said:
If we can root and bootloader unlock, the pixel os will be sweet on this phone. buttery smooth
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Supposedly it's already buttery smooth though. You'll lose all the good additions Samsung adds too..

oneandroidnut said:
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on the exynos? i suppose they will lock it down eventually in the past few years they have all been unlocked thus far.
guess we will see about the S20 shortly

I stopped bothering with the rooting after all the device checking with so many apps. Sure, there's always a way to sidestep but eventually it gets old. Some of us want to actually enjoy our phones not play a wacky version of whack-a-mole!
That said, I wish they would just allow the end user to unlock the damn bootloader and make the process reversible if they wish. Device checking is already there and just like DRM it can be thwarted by those possessing the knowledge to do so.

I've also given up on rooting and modding. It's pretty hard to improve on the software on a phone these days, whether it's Android, One UI or whatever. With all the personal info on a phone like banking and credit card data, I think the security is important. I miss that good ad blocking when rooted but I get by.

dmb219 said:
I've also given up on rooting and modding. It's pretty hard to improve on the software on a phone these days, whether it's Android, One UI or whatever. With all the personal info on a phone like banking and credit card data, I think the security is important. I miss that good ad blocking when rooted but I get by.
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Yup, “the thrill is gone” for sure. (BB King paraphrased) And now Samsung and others can capitalize on it making new phones every 6 months or so to keep the excitement(and money) flowing.
People would keep their phones for a long time in not-so-distant past while experiencing re-hashed interest in 'old' devices getting new mods and ROMs.

Is rooting really even needed on modern android phones anymore? I used to love rooting my phones and installing custom roms (other than the 1 device I bricked) but I see no need for it anymore.

first thing i will do is root to get rid of all the facebook ****

suffeks said:
first thing i will do is root to get rid of all the facebook ****
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You can disable without root.

people who say you don't need rooting anymore must be joking... or they just did superficial things with root.

chieco said:
people who say you don't need rooting anymore must be joking... or they just did superficial things with root.
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It used to be necessary, now I find it more of a hobby, than anything else.

VZTech said:
It used to be necessary, now I find it more of a hobby, than anything else.
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depends on what you want to achieve. IMHO rooting unleashes the true power of your device. Even with oneui 2.1 you can better your experience by far. My rooted S10 with has so many great functions even oneui 6.8 won't have. Even with let's say GoodLock Modules there is a waaaaaay better Magisk or Xposed Modules that let you customize things way more.

dasers13 said:
Is rooting really even needed on modern android phones anymore? I used to love rooting my phones and installing custom roms (other than the 1 device I bricked) but I see no need for it anymore.
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adaway, titanium backup, viper4android, the list goes on. Root is essential.

What's the benefit of rooting these days? Seems like a lot of work for little benefit

What is the benefit of rooting ...
For the ignorant consumer, little. For the ones asking what the benefits are, there is evidently nothing they need. For the rest of us who want to have full control of their devices, instead of delegating this to some vendor, the benefits are evident and not worth talking about. I really do not understand why there is so much text written about the pros and cons of rooting, and then asked about again and again. Waste of bytes, waste of storage on this server, waste of time for the reader - this post about the benefits of rooting included

ecoco1 said:
For the ignorant consumer, little.
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For the general consumer, not necessarily an ignorant one.
ecoco1 said:
For the ones asking what the benefits are, there is evidently nothing they need.
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Exceptionalism doesn't suit you.
ecoco1 said:
For the rest of us who want to have full control of their devices, instead of delegating this to some vendor, the benefits are evident and not worth talking about. I really do not understand why there is so much text written about the pros and cons of rooting, and then asked about again and again.
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So, you admit you don't actually know.
ecoco1 said:
Waste of bytes, waste of storage on this server, waste of time for the reader - this post about the benefits of rooting included
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Wasting bytes? Don't understand this, you can't waste bytes, they are near infinite and the number snails grows by the second.
roadcabe14 said:
What's the benefit of rooting these days? Seems like a lot of work for little benefit
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Faster updates and longer support for updates.
Greater control of permissions.
Better control of how the phone looks.
Mostly it's a digital measuring contest though, "My phone's rooted" is a badge of honor for some.

Of course my phone is rooted, I need it to be like that to do my job, but this seasonal heated discussion on the pros/cons of rooting is childish.
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For the general consumer, not necessarily an ignorant one.
Exceptionalism doesn't suit you.
So, you admit you don't actually know.
Wasting bytes? Don't understand this, you can't waste bytes, they are near infinite and the number snails grows by the second.
Faster updates and longer support for updates.
Greater control of permissions.
Better control of how the phone looks.
Mostly it's a digital measuring contest though, "My phone's rooted" is a badge of honor for some.
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