I'm on the 3 network in Australia and I find my reception is quite poor.
I understand 3's network coverage isn't as amazing as Telstra or Optus, but it is meant to be strong around the CBD, which mine isnt. Other friends on the network using non-htc handsets have perfect reception in places I don't. This leads me to believe it might be my radio. Even when roaming reception will drop out occasionally.
I have Radio-3.22.20.17. Are there any other Australian 3 users here? What radio are you using? How is your reception? Would a 6.35 radio be better? I've searched XDA, Google, etc and couldn't find decent radio information for the Magic, only found some for the Hero.
Thanks,
Anyone able to help?
i don't know much about the radio side of things, but is there anything else that could be affecting your reception?
do you have a cover on your phone?
does reception improve if it's removed?
have you contacted 3 to see if there might be a fault with your phone?
I have a cover, but reception isn't affected with it on or off. I've also had the phone checked and its fine.
I want to test a new radio/rom to see if it improves but I don't want to go back to Android 1.5 and there are no 100% working 2.1 roms, so I'll have to wait.
Are there any threads similar to this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
lagu805 said:
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
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I ended up trying CursorSense. I hate Sense UI so I removed it, but I didn't notice any signal difference. I also ran Before and After speedtests numerous times and averaged them and the new radio was slower for me
so sorry to hear that...
well, at least i finally found someone from australia using magic and a member of xda as well..
I've not used my Magic on 3, but I can relate to your signal issues on their network. The only contract phone I ever had was with them and I regretted it, call drops and poor signal no matter where I was, I used to work in the stock exchange building, you'd think a phone would have awesome signal there but I'd be stuck on 1-2 bars Sorry to say it, but I think you can blame 3, not your phone.
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Posted at PPCGeeks as well.
Okay, I have never had a problem like this until now. I recently had to replace my VX6800 because of a cracked screen. When I got the replacement, I updated to the newest Radio and cooked a ROM based on 20270. Everything works flawlessly until I am at work. I worked at a power plant where the reception in buildings is very little. The company purchased and installed a few cell phone boosters with the external antennas and the whole nine yards. Before this new phone, new Radio, and new ROM I was able to use the signal from the repeaters, now I can't. My phone sees the signal, but will not use it for data or voice. I can't even dial *228. I can walk outside and use my phone no problem. I am totally confused at what to do next. Anybody have any ideas or suggestions? I am also running PRL version 51056.
Well if you want to experiment, flash on Radio version 3.42.40 via MicroSD (since it's SPECIFICALLY made for this device, and not ported over)
See if you notice any difference doing that.
What were you running before?
That's excactly what I am doing now. After having posted this thread, I am reading more about the .50 and realized that is was from the Vogue. I am in the process of flashing to .40 now. I will let you know.
I downgraded my Radio to 3.42.02 and it still doesn't work. Any other Radio suggetions?
I had purchased a second hand o2 xda neo. It had wm 5 on it . I updates it with wm 6.1 roms available here.I find that the gsm reception is very poor inside my home.I dont know whether this happened after the update. In my office it is quite good. Even when I am outside i have no problem. Only in my home the signal is very weak. can this be corrected by some registry tweaks or some software. or is it a hardware problem. and if so can i get it repaired. pls help...
what rom are you using and what radio was recommended for use with it. Sounds like a radio issue to me but plz tell me rom and radio. you can experiment using different radios found on the wiki to see whatworks best.
you can flash different radios without loosing data on the device.
I have tried with 2.19, 2.47, 2.69 roms. but no effect. I am trying today 2.07 let me see if that helps. Does IPL/SPL effect the singnal strength?
mmm it might be just one of those things, in that there is interferance within your house (my house is made from granite so reception is very poor), if recpetion is good elsewhere it is unlikely to be radio.
Is there 3G network there? The quality of service on 3G can be unpredictable at best of times.
Signal is not effected by IPL/SPL to my knowledge.
The results of 2.07.20 radio rom. It shows good signal but i feel that it does not update it when the signal is poor. In my office signal is good. So it showed full strength. I went home. There too it showed full strength. when i did soft rest to clear my doubt the signal was poor as in previous roms. Do you think that the antenna has some problem. Can it be replaced. i find an opening above the mirror( near the camers lens) for car antenna. Can this help? if so how?. 3G network is not available in my country(INDIA)
hey,
i think u might have to accept that the signal is just crap in your house... a bummer i know, but if youve tried various radios and signal is good elsewhere, it cant be the internal ariel.
have u tried flashing another rom, more recent build?
Not sure it will help but you never know... at the end of the day, signal is never constant in any one place.
But friend. The signal is good in other phones. If the signal is crap then it should affect other phones too.
I should have also said that the signal is never constant betwenn too phones in the same place. It depends on antenna hardware and the location of it, like signal is reduced whislt making a call if you place your hand and fingers in the wrong place.
I think it unlikely that is a hardware issue if your signal is fine in other areas. Sorry my friend i dont know what else to suggest having tried radios and roms.
The prophet is getting a little long in the tooth now, so be time for an update?
I've copied this from the Vodafone (UK) forum - but I don't seem to be the only one with a proble... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I've had my HD2 for just a few days now and I can honestly say that unless something is sorted soon I won't be using it much longer! I have exactly the same problem in both DT1 and BH20 post codes. Singal is good and strong when the device is left on a desk/table etc... I can have FULL signal but lift the device up and it drops to 3, 2, 1 and then no signal...
I can make perfect phone calls using hands free, but can't even send or recieve a text if I pick the phone up. We're talking less than 24" of movement here so it has to be device related!
Comparing this to the HTC Diamond. The Diamond although showing slightly less signal (2-3bars) is much more stable and non-reactive to being handled.
I'm using the very latest updates with HSDPA/HSUPA disabled.
It would seem that HTC has dropped the ball here.
(HSPL - ROM 1.66)
Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0
I replied to your post in the Vodafone forum assuming you were still on the stock 1.43 ROM, but if you are on 1.66 then I am not sure what to suggest as you mentioned that it happens in multiple areas which seem to be a fair way apart and therefore would be on different transmitters (unless you are unfortunate enough to be in several areas all suffering from faulty cell-towers).
I know mine drops a bar when I pick it up but not 2 to 3 and then to no signal...
Maybe you should contact HTC about a replacement? Dont bother with Vodafone as they'll offer you a Blackberry 9700 if they cant fix it...
SOunds faulty to me. There is sometimes a small drop in signal for me when the phoe is cupped in my hand, but not more than 1 bar, usually none.
I'd get on to your provider for a warranty replacement.
Nothing such here. And I'm in a low reception place here, seems it even does better than my previous Kaiser.
Seems that Vodafone is a bit of a crappy network in terms of its compatibility with phones! If it's not text messages staying in the outbox it's data disconnecting/not working and no picture messaging NOW rubbish signal....jeez. I've been on T-Mobile with the HD2 since it arrived in november and haven't had one single problem with texts, data, signal....anything. I've had two different handsets in that time too since I sold the first upgrade.
In all seriousness though I do also have a prototype pro.three (pre-release HD2) and that suffers from low signal/signal dropout so in this instance it seems that you have a faulty unit.
I do hear a lot of moaning Voda users on these forums though which makes me quite likely to steer clear when I get my upgrade in a few weeks.
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Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0
It doesn't look like its JUST my phone here...
Outside this problem is not half as bad.
Lots of people across the world are having problems with the SMS thing.
Its also not limited to the HD2 handset as I had it on Kaiser when I updated that handset to WM6.5
Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...
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Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...
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signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.
ardsar said:
signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.
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I've tried the 2.07 radio and its not noticably better
I've now made my own thread over at Vodafone... it'll be interesting to see what they have to say about it!
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=52093
If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.
pa49 said:
If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.
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Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM
have you checked that the battery cover is on correctly? there are to prongs on the inside of it that make it part of the arial
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Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM
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The Rom affects the sms issue (I believe) and my current LeoLite ROM (now 2.3) shows no sms problem and sits well with the radio I mentioned as it unlocks the extra memory.
Addendum
There is a link with ROM and radio through the rilphone.dll that is cooked in to the ROMs.
e.g. The correct rilphone for T-mobileUK will assist in accessing the T-mobile network with the correct protocols required for the services on that network. And same would go for all other operators (who may or may not have their own rilphone file configured to their requirements). I am unaware of any signature that would differentiate between the files, however, it's safe to assume that a rilphone.dll extracted from a stock T-mobileUK ROM would be the appropriate one for their network access.
I haven't seen a lot of experimentation on this although I have tried out various files on the ROMs I have flashed without any real conclusion emerging.
The combination that I mention is just a solid setup that works well for me on my operators network in my location.
iv been searching around and cant seem to find which one is best, most of them cause my data connection to fail for a second or two when i connect to opera or is this another issue and not my radio,
any advice would be great
adamlowry1988 said:
iv been searching around and cant seem to find which one is best, most of them cause my data connection to fail for a second or two when i connect to opera or is this another issue and not my radio,
any advice would be great
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Try the Radio I'm using, it's working pretty well, reception is good, data connection is good, give it a go! But you should really test some out before posting a thread as every reply will be different, it's difficult to say which is the 'best'!
I recently upgraded my radio to 2.15.50.14. Since the upgrade I have noticed an increase in battery life++ and less switching between H/3g/2g. Data connections feel much quicker on HSDPA but this is purely anecdotal as I have no speedtest results to compare.
This is on T-mobile UK.
In my experience a Radio that works really well on one network/Country may not be the best choice on a different network/Country.
It doesn't cost anything to flash a Radio, so experiment away. Read the stickies in the ROMs forum to avoid "Bricking" your HD2.
wizzzard said:
I recently upgraded my radio to 2.15.50.14. Since the upgrade I have noticed an increase in battery life++ and less switching between H/3g/2g. Data connections feel much quicker on HSDPA but this is purely anecdotal as I have no speedtest results to compare.
This is on T-mobile UK.
In my experience a Radio that works really well on one network/Country may not be the best choice on a different network/Country.
It doesn't cost anything to flash a Radio, so experiment away. Read the stickies in the ROMs forum to avoid "Bricking" your HD2.
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Where about do you live? I'm about to try your Radio, to see how it goes
How did you get on radio-wise?
I am on tmobile in the uk.
On recent radios ( not tried every single one of course) I get my signal dropping down to 4 dots where I know I get good signal. I just flashed one of the 2.10.x radios and its definitely dropping down to4 dots alot less but still not how it used to be. I will try others in the morning.
I was wondering if there is a definitive list of the best radio depending on which provider you're with?
Thanks.
Yans.
HD2 - Best radio for UK Tmobile
I know it's been asked a thousand times before, but does anybody have actual experiences on the HD2 with Android running of SD, and being on Tmobile?
I must agree, 2.12.50.02.2 does work amazingly. I tested a lot before agreeing to this one. And android seems to connect straight away with it installed. I had 2.08, 2.09 & 2.10 before & had to constantly switch my network connections from WCDMA/GSM (HSPA/3G/GSM) to WCDMA only (HSPA/3G) and back again while running android. However, 2.12 never had the problem.
best radio for hd2 & UK Tmobile
I think I have to agree. I have tried lots of them, but am going back to 2.10 and 2.12, and out of the two, 2.12 seems the better. I also had to contstantly turn my hsdap on and off and on again to get connections as it dropped often. What kind of donwload speeds do you average?
sorry if I'm posting this again
but please I'm about to rip my precious hd2 to pieces because of the reception issues
see it happens like this
I'm standing INSIDE my home
watching the signal
as it goes from full to half to none to service un available
all of this happens while I'm standing watching my phones signal dangles
and I cant make calls longer than one minute and then the call is dropped
that is also while inside my home
when standing outside
the reception is most of the times fine
but the call quality is below average
there is drop outs and weird sounds
I tried different radios (2.10 and 2.12 and 2.15(stock))
I tried different ROMS (windows 6.5 and 7 and android)
I never dropped the phone
maybe the only thing I did was removing the battery from the phone alot because I was trying to flash android when I first got my phone
please Admins and Experts in this great forum
help me cuz I'm about to go crazy
my phone is a T-Mobile HD2 with a yellow reset button
current ROM : Rafdroid HD2
Current Radio : 2.15
Current state : Hunting for network and draining off the battery
thanks in advance
What was it like on original ROM !
you could try a T-Mobile Radio & matching rilphone.dll or flash newest t-mobile ROM complete with radio & test to see if firmware issue or hardware.
Is reception in/near your home known to be a bit weak ?
Aint the rilphone.dll a windows based file? If so how would that have an affect on android? Im also having a signal drop issue
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Well rilphone.dll is used in conjuction with the radio firmware, when in android it will not use the rilphone.dll so could cause issues for some users pending on network ect ect !
You are using droid ROM with Radio package designed for WM,just my thoughts.
thanks for replying
can you please post the links to a stock t-mobile rom and radio and a compatible rilphone.dll?
but I didn't have the chance to test it under the original win mo
but the reception was fine when I first bought it and I was using a non primary sim card in it
so I didn't really notice
but I travelled to another country
and started using it along with another sim from the same carrier in a nokia phone
the nokia gives full 3G coverage
while the HD2 is hunting for the signal
so any thoughts ??
I thought Android ROMs are known to have issues with 3G !? check thread of your ROM as may have info on this.
Have a look in HD2 wicki if you want stock ROM.
I use my HD2 worldwide, Thailand, Singapore, China, Japan, England, USA on Energy ROM (Dinik version) & radio 2.12.50 & reception works normally with 3G available when using SIM on 3G capable networks.
Android is still a bit buggy for some users & to be honest Android does not seem worth the hassle to me as a good WM6.5.x build set up well is far better.
thanks Mister B for the advice
I flashed the latest version of the stock WinMo on my device and it seems like nothing happened
still the buggy reception issues
seems like the antenna inside the device is not sensitive enough to receive proper signal because when I go to the roof of my house the signal is fine
but when I stay inside signal drops and comes back almost regularly
I just cant belive that this is a hardware problem
because since I got my phone I never dropped it
maybe the only thing I did was removing the battery while the phone was on a lot of times....
??? im so confused ???
I would like to add another thing
when I put my fingers on the bottom right corner of the device ( right behind the on off key ) the reception works flawlessly
and as soon as I remove my fingers it goes back the way it was
so this is a hardware problem right?
What was the ROM number & what radio was included in ROM ?
If you have warranty or insurance you could try getting a replacement.
Looking like it could be antena related !
RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
that's the rom installed for now
and I don't have insurance or warranty
I double checked that with htc care
I'm really really sad about this
..........
when i first got it i think it was working fine and i was flashing a bunch of different roms. then like a switch when i installed one random rom "core cell android nand" it had really bad reception.
it doesn't matter what i cant fix it, install or flash, i have crappy reception. i have put different sim cards where the "original phone had good reception" and still no change. i put my sim card in another phone and it has a good signal. i also tested it in a another hd2 and it 1whorked fine.
cant send it in, i bought it off of somebody.