I'm waiting for my N1 to be delivered.
Is it me or is there a plethora of worrying issues with the N1? Reading through various forums there seems to be issues with nearly all aspects of it from screens clicking to poor performance and software quirks. I can't seem to find any more positive threads and its starting to freak me out.
How does the N1 really compare to the iPhone/comparative-phone as a complete product? Both hardware and software quality.
Honesty would be much appreciated.
Most of the hardware issues should be resolved, you should not see dust, nor clicking screen etc. Software patch is said to be coming this week or so, and should resolve most of the glaring launch issues with 2.1.
As for comparison, I think you'll find a lot of former iPhone and now happy N1 users, the hardware is VASTLY superior currently, and I've never really seen a performance issue regarding the N1, its seriously wicked fast.
Theres worry
Then theres those who have their phone. They dont come on the forums much anymore like myself cus I'm too busy playing with my phone
People with issues are much more vocal than those without.
I have had none, not one, nada, nix, zero of the issues that have been brought to the fore in here.
I must be extremely lucky or the problems aren't that prevalent and, as I've said, the few are more vocal.
SC
I've had my phone since day one and it has worked better than I would have thought, specially because of all the complaints. Don't pay too much attention to them, the phone is awesome and will only get better!
I too lucked out, other than a few screen calibration re boot issues mine is running perfect! Love this baby. And the screen and speed can't be beat! Well worth the 500 some odd bucks. I paid!
hope to order mine by the end of the week and i have felt the same way you have regarding the negativity but that still hasn't made me have second thoughts at all about getting this phone, just the "i hope this doesnt happen to me" in the back of my mind. definitly agree with others that people are a lot more vocal on negative issues and i'm sure when i get my phone i wont be refreshing the general forum 600 times a day like i am now
This phone is awesome.
You really owe it to the N1 to flash a custom ROM though. Get over to Modaco, flash the ROM with Highmem and JIT enabled... it quadriples available memory and double's stock CPU speed! I lie not!
At some point I'll upload screenies of my Linpack results before and after custom ROM flashes.
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I'm waiting for my N1 to be delivered.
Is it me or is there a plethora of worrying issues with the N1?
Honesty would be much appreciated.
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I received my N1 the day after announcement and I've been very happy with the purchase. Solid device without any of the common issues.
If there's one thing to put your mind at ease is that on topical forums the loudest voice is usually the one that requires assistance or advice. A member that has no issues will likely remain a lurker. It's a very false impression of the landscape. Google sold somewhere around 20,000 N1s in the first week so consider the ratio of problem handsets to working handsets and how often someone will start a new thread just to say nothing is wrong. It rarely happens.
I still don't believe that figure of 20,000 anyway. I think it was much higher. That is based on apps that were sold in the first week... an odd way to try and figure how many units where shifted, but Google wont release any figures I don't think.
I love my N1 and have no problems with it, even with it being rooted with a experimental ROM.
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This phone is awesome.
You really owe it to the N1 to flash a custom ROM though. Get over to Modaco, flash the ROM with Highmem and JIT enabled... it quadriples available memory and double's stock CPU speed! I lie not!
At some point I'll upload screenies of my Linpack results before and after custom ROM flashes.
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I'm on cyan 5.3 with himem 2.69 and jit and it's a screamer! Lincat at 17
Yea, I've been the same. Worried. After all this negative feed back, well the only thing really irritating me is the dust thing. Is it yet fixed on newer phones? Other than that, these other problems don't seem.. important.
I replaced two iPhone 3G's with N1's.
Wife took the first one I ordered and she's a diehard Mac fan, and ever since discovering DoubleTwist on the Mac and as an Andriod app she's very happy.
My phones are all stock (even though I'd like to root 'em), for now
Waited a long time for a powerful fast customizable device like this! It easily replaced my 2 WM PPC's.
How does the N1 really compare to the iPhone
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Why does everything have to be compared to the iphone?
Read the specs for the iphone, then the N1 and search youtube. Not too hard right?
Or maybe search the forum and read the other 1,000 post that are the same as yours?
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How does the N1 really compare to the iPhone/QUOTE]
Why does everything have to be compared to the iphone? Read the specs for the iphone, then the N1. Then read about android and then search youtube. Not to hard right?
Or maybe search the forum and read the other 1,000 post that are the same as yours?
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I feel this exact same way. Rather irritating this iphone comparison to everything, any phone of interest in the population must be compared to what.. the iphone.
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kylez64 said:
I feel this exact same way. Rather irritating this iphone comparison to everything, any phone of interest in the population must be compared to what.. the iphone.
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what gets me more is they keep posting it on XDA! WHY?!?
I like the iphone because we can keep that user base away from us
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People with issues are much more vocal than those without.
I have had none, not one, nada, nix, zero of the issues that have been brought to the fore in here.
I must be extremely lucky or the problems aren't that prevalent and, as I've said, the few are more vocal.
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Eclair~ said:
what gets me more is they keep posting it on XDA! WHY?!?
I like the iphone because we can keep that user base away from us
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To be fair I said iPhone/comparative-phone. It was just a general question. Relax.
Thanks to all those with positive replies, really hope mine doesn't come with any issues :/
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My opinion;
Despite all the other HTC Android phones coming the Nexus One will remain on top. The reason why I think this is because having a phone directly from Google itself means you'll get updates before anybody, and popularity from any other 'Droid phone won't beat out a Android phone from Google itself.
So to everyone who has a Nexus One or those people who are scared too get one because another one might make it look obsolete..DON'T WORRY. The Nexus One will remain on top due to the fact that it's from Google itself.
Just my two cents..
I agree with you on that. I just made the leap from the TP2 after running Android on it for a couple of days. I love it. Its awesome.
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I agree with you on that. I just made the leap from the TP2 after running Android on it for a couple of days. I love it. Its awesome.
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LOL, I did the same thing. My TP2 is now collecting dust.
So what you're saying is that because this phone is being so heavily backed by Google it will have a very long lifespan?
I think I can agree with that
I came from the CLIQ and man is this phone a speeeeeed demon!
well so far there is very little (to none) support from google......and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
The phone is good, the hardware is good, the OS is ok.......It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
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How so? Cell phone meaning the making-calls part of it, or the whole phone in general? Any specifics?
It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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Specifics?
I find very few people who don't like the N1 can actually list real reasons for not liking it.
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well so far there is very little (to none) support from google......and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
The phone is good, the hardware is good, the OS is ok.......It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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Well, you know, you should lay off from Google a little. This is there first directly sold phone, and they weren't exactly prepared for all the whining and problems people were going to have. I don't know how they didn't expect for nearly everyone to complain, but apparently they weren't exactly ready to join the phone competition. They haven't had to deal with any problems till now because they have been selling their Android powered phones through carriers..
I honestly don't understand how this phone could have so many aggravations for people though.. like the above poster said, you should also be more specific.
The good thing is that if the 3g connection is good, htc/moterola/exc can't put the blame on Google, Google has to accept the blame, thus forcing them to fix it snappy (hopefully like we've seen with the radio haha)!
coming from touch pro 2 the N1 is amazing
gotta be honest i miss the keyboard but its alright
just the fact that the phone has a 1ghz processor tells me that they are palnning to keep it for a while. ive had an iphone 3g too and so far i still like the n1 the best ...
just one problem so far - the youtube player is stupid and slow... =[
other than that 5 stars
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well so far there is very little (to none) support from google......and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
The phone is good, the hardware is good, the OS is ok.......It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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Patience..everything will be solved by the time it hits Verizon.
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Patience..everything will be solved by the time it hits Verizon.
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Hah! I just had this idea today!!!
What if Google isn't advertising the Nexus One etc because T-Mobile N1 = the BETA? And we all know how much Google likes their betas!!
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Hah! I just had this idea today!!!
What if Google isn't advertising the Nexus One etc because T-Mobile N1 = the BETA? And we all know how much Google likes their betas!!
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Lmaooo but I really think by the time this phone hits Verizon..every major issue will be solved.
Are people still getting dust under the screen...or has that been fixed.I'm debating if I should get the N1.I had the G1 and loved all the mods you could do to it and the N1 has twice the specs so it's a powerhouse and the only phone out there close to those specs is the HD2.Man I just can't decide, maybe I should wait till all the kinks are worked out.
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Are people still getting dust under the screen...or has that been fixed.I'm debating if I should get the N1.I had the G1 and loved all the mods you could do to it and the N1 has twice the specs so it's a powerhouse and the only phone out there close to those specs is the HD2.Man I just can't decide, maybe I should wait till all the kinks are worked out.
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You should get it when all the problems are fixed..that way you have nothing too worry about.
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How so? Cell phone meaning the making-calls part of it, or the whole phone in general? Any specifics?
Specifics?
I find very few people who don't like the N1 can actually list real reasons for not liking it.
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I love the phone. But the speaker phone suks arse! How do you miss that part in the testing of the phone. Maybe if I bend it a little and give it a HERO Chin that might fix it. Now if I can only get that "bending device" they used in the "Making Of The N1"......hmmmmmmmmm
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Are people still getting dust under the screen...or has that been fixed.I'm debating if I should get the N1.I had the G1 and loved all the mods you could do to it and the N1 has twice the specs so it's a powerhouse and the only phone out there close to those specs is the HD2.Man I just can't decide, maybe I should wait till all the kinks are worked out.
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Since you have 1 YEAR to replace it, just get it and if the dust is really bad, send it back in 360 days
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Since you have 1 YEAR to replace it, just get it and if the dust is really bad, send it back in 360 days
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I know but a lot of people got a replacement with the same problem.How many times can we send it in for replacement?
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I know but a lot of people got a replacement with the same problem.How many times can we send it in for replacement?
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I don't know if there is a limit. But if there is, then there's even LESS reason to send it in right away, like so many people are doing, and then getting phones with the dust issue once again. Get the phone, enjoy, send it back at 11 months.
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I don't know if there is a limit. But if there is, then there's even LESS reason to send it in right away, like so many people are doing, and then getting phones with the dust issue once again. Get the phone, enjoy, send it back at 11 months.
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yea that's a good idea too...anyone know if T-mobile stores sell these or is it just Google?
Now that I have sold my Nexus One. i was very sad immediantly just because the phone was sexy as hell and amazing speed. The college i got accepted to sends all incoming freshmen a iphone 3gs and are required to use it to keep in contact with professors.
Now that thats said i want to continue with whats the truth about the nexus.
1) i had a problem with the headphones along with alot of other people when listening to music threw your headphones that came with the nexus you would get a shock... for me it mostly happend when i was plugged into a computer
2) DUST...omg the dust i got under the corner of the screen was annoying the crap out of me. i couldnt get it sent back because i wanted to keep the engraving on the phone. and i didnt want to wait 2 weeks for them to send me my phone back.
3) the phones speed is AMAZING but i feel as if google hasnt completly utilized the speed and GPU yet. *if they can pull this off, things would be so much better than the iphone*
want to add other things about this phone *without being biased* ? go ahead lets see if we can get some good information in here for new android users
Yeah...
Non-biased my ass. The only thing the iPhone does better than the N1 is the app store. To say they need to work on their GPU is just a pathetic representation of a review...
I'm not even going to try wasting my time to make this a worthwhile thread. OP, you're just... Ugh..
Too LAZY to send it back and wait a couple weeks for a problem... That's YOUR fault. There's policies in place to remedy issues... *****ing isn't the appropriate remedy.
P.S. Shocking from earbuds happens with more than just the stock headphones. Go google it.
they need to fix the dust under the screen issue.
!maybe a way to upscale low res images from the interwebs so they don't look like ass on the high res display!
but honestly, i have been more then happy with my Nexus after selling my 3GS.
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Now that I have sold my Nexus One. i was very sad immediantly just because the phone was sexy as hell and amazing speed. The college i got accepted to sends all incoming freshmen a iphone 3gs and are required to use it to keep in contact with professors.
Now that thats said i want to continue with whats the truth about the nexus.
1) i had a problem with the headphones along with alot of other people when listening to music threw your headphones that came with the nexus you would get a shock... for me it mostly happend when i was plugged into a computer
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THe headphones that come with the N1 doesn't work well on other standard 3.5mm jacks because the pins are specifically designed for the N1. Apparently if you insert the headphones into your computer half way it should work like normal headphones.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2299303&tstart=0
Shame you moved to an iPhone then
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Shame you moved to an iPhone then
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OWNED!!!
Rusty! said:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2299303&tstart=0
Shame you moved to an iPhone then
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I wish there were a "Like" button for your comment.
To the OP: cool story, bro.
There was exactly no reason for the OP as he just stated a few well-known issues that people can experience with this phone. Every device has a its own set of issues and the OP will now be fortunate enough to experience the many IPhone problems.
I think we'd all be better off if this entired thread was deleted.
Wow what college do you go to?
off to college and still can't spell... 'threw'
Abilene Christian University.
wow didnt know there was so many haters in here lol go get a life. i posted this thread for new people to look at some issues and as to the iphone headbuds that sucks i have never even heard of that problem i havent been shocked by them for a couple of weeks so we will see if i get that problem.
i spelt threw wrong....woah! your big and bad. big deal go get a life bro. im not wrighting a english paper here dumbass its a forum thread.
that's cool that abilene christian gives out 3gs's. i guess thats how my friend got his. congrats
anyways
the dust issue didnt happen to all nexus's. heck i haven't gotten one speck under mine yet.
also hope you didnt use the stock headphones. i usually assume stock is bad.
enjoy the iphone. i personally cant wait to see what comes out of the next one.
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that's cool that abilene christian gives out 3gs's. i guess thats how my friend got his. congrats
anyways
the dust issue didnt happen to all nexus's. heck i haven't gotten one speck under mine yet.
also hope you didnt use the stock headphones. i usually assume stock is bad.
enjoy the iphone. i personally cant wait to see what comes out of the next one.
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thanks bro!
knock on wood lol unless you got a nexus within the past couple of weeks. i pre-ordered mine so i got the first *model* as some have said.
i did use the stock headphones they actually were pretty decent almost up there with the apples iphone stock headphones.
i know all the incomming freshmen for next year get the iPad's for free... im pissed lol
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Abilene Christian University.
wow didnt know there was so many haters in here lol go get a life.
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If you were to post in an apple forum..."hey, i just sold my iphonepod in favour of a nexus one" you would see similar responses. The only difference being a witch hunt would ensue if you left the apple collective
i spelt threw wrong....woah! your big and bad. big deal go get a life bro. im not wrighting a english paper here dumbass its a forum thread.
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People are growing tired of "it's okay, it's only the internet" as a justification for poor grammar and ill-written thoughts. It is also rather ironic that a person is off for higher education and is unable to use simple words correctly. Perhaps they should be handing out dictionaries and the like rather than iphones...
ps - you're, not your. writing not wrighting. an not a. it's not its.
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off to college and still can't spell... 'threw'
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I thought the same thing as I was reading the post!
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Abilene Christian University.
wow didnt know there was so many haters in here lol go get a life. i posted this thread for new people to look at some issues and as to the iphone headbuds that sucks i have never even heard of that problem i havent been shocked by them for a couple of weeks so we will see if i get that problem.
i spelt threw wrong....woah! your big and bad. big deal go get a life bro. im not wrighting a english paper here dumbass its a forum thread.
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Let me help you with that since you'll need to know this in college:
i spelt threw wrong....woah! you're big and bad.
Your is a possessive term, where as you're is the conjugation of "you are". So in the future, make sure you check if your usage is right by replacing the term with "you are" and seeing if it makes sense to you.
Anyway dude...bro... you need to grow up and stop acting like an e-Gangsta. To be fair, nothing you posted is anything new. We've all heard it all before and so the thread is a flaming waste of space. That being said, good luck in college.
The phone has a powerful processor and an impressive amount of RAM. I dont think it uses either one nearly to its potential (at least i hope not), which is kind of cool because, although the phone is smooth and fast, the performance ought to be able to be vastly improved with software updates. I like the phone a lot but i also think its fair and justified to expect a lot more from it down the road.
If anyone that knows about hardware can confidently tell me not to expect much more from the device please post that information so that i may sell this phone. thanks
'Through' is the correct spelling. 'Threw' is the past tense of 'throw
"Yesterday, I threw a ball through a hoop."
I'm glad Jesus can afford iphone 3gs's for all students!
Jesus is a baller, lol, im still confused about this dust issue, does anyone have a picture of what this is all about? I got mine the day it launched and I have no idea what people are talking about I havent had any problems with dust and really cant see how it could get under the screen, I keep mine in my pocket every day so Im sure it woulda happened by now if it could. Id also have to agree that the only thing the iphone has is the app store, once androids gets up there it will be a lot better because there's a lot more potential. Id already have to say that handcent, dolphin, and google voice are good examples of that because apple only lets you use their stuff and blocks something if they already have an option is pretty wacksauce in my opinion, why not let the people choose which they like the best, makes no sense to me. Oh well. /rant
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'Through' is the correct spelling. 'Threw' is the past tense of 'throw
"Yesterday, I threw a ball through a hoop."
I'm glad Jesus can afford iphone 3gs's for all students!
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now thats funny lol
I would assume jesus would upgrade but that is best saved for a different forum
Meaningless thread...
Wow, OP is so smart that he can go to a university!!! SO? I've got my B.S. already, duh!
I just wonder who the heck would buy OP's engraved Nexus One with dust under the screen...
I know I shouldn't post this here just wanted the devs to maybe respond so we know what is holding up the fun.
I am not a jerk but what happen to the nexus one. We are constantly seeing devs going back to the g1 porting tons of new items into the roms while my nexus is still using the same old same old.
what happened to the fm radio for desire? bluetooth to work on desire? sony x10 roms? etc etc?
all i see lately is a bunch of modded kernels that all seem to be tampering with the processor way too much.
I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
thanks to all that have done great things for nexus, just kinda was expecting a little more.
regards Ian
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I know I shouldn't post this here just wanted the devs to maybe respond so we know what is holding up the fun.
I am not a jerk but what happen to the nexus one. We are constantly seeing devs going back to the g1 porting tons of new items into the roms while my nexus is still using the same old same old.
what happened to the fm radio for desire? bluetooth to work on desire? sony x10 roms? etc etc?
all i see lately is a bunch of modded kernels that all seem to be tampering with the processor way too much.
I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
thanks to all that have done great things for nexus, just kinda was expecting a little more.
regards Ian
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I hear that an update that activates the FM radio is on the way
ianandamy said:
I know I shouldn't post this here just wanted the devs to maybe respond so we know what is holding up the fun.
I am not a jerk but what happen to the nexus one. We are constantly seeing devs going back to the g1 porting tons of new items into the roms while my nexus is still using the same old same old.
what happened to the fm radio for desire? bluetooth to work on desire? sony x10 roms? etc etc?
all i see lately is a bunch of modded kernels that all seem to be tampering with the processor way too much.
I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
thanks to all that have done great things for nexus, just kinda was expecting a little more.
regards Ian
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so you expected the devs to make your phone worth $500? thats not cool.
also in case you haven't noticed the n1 runs 2.1 which is causing problems for ports which ran 1.5 or 1.6.
You are going to have to wait for a dev to get a desire to get the info needed to get the bluetooth or radio working. And that is assuming they are exactly the same which they probably aren't.
And as you stated above this doesn't belong here. It should be in the general section.
Really?
People keep porting stuff to the G1 because there are a ton of people that have that phone... and it still kinda sucks. I used either a G1 or a MT3G for the last 10 months. Now that I switched to the N1 I feel like everything just works the way I always wanted it to on the G1/MT3G. What more do you need?
The Desire ROMs are better than ANY port to the G1. Yeah there is a thing or two that isn't perfect, but WTF, man. It's damn good.
Cyanogen is near perfection. I keep toying with it trying to find **** wrong with it and... nothing. Obviously there's some cool stuff out there but why don't you buy some time looking for the coolest apps you can find. Use your phone... don't tool with it.
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I know I shouldn't post this here just wanted the devs to maybe respond so we know what is holding up the fun.
I am not a jerk but what happen to the nexus one. We are constantly seeing devs going back to the g1 porting tons of new items into the roms while my nexus is still using the same old same old.
what happened to the fm radio for desire? bluetooth to work on desire? sony x10 roms? etc etc?
all i see lately is a bunch of modded kernels that all seem to be tampering with the processor way too much.
I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
thanks to all that have done great things for nexus, just kinda was expecting a little more.
regards Ian
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so you expected the devs to make your phone worth $500? thats not cool.
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NO THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID - so please quit trying to start wars.
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I didn't want a Desire I wanted to buy the next highly supported phone by the Rom community.
I am not *****ing I am simply asking what is causing the dry spell.
Is there something the Devs know about a new powerhouse tmobile phone around the corner so they dont want to waste time or updates coming that change everything soon.
I am not bashing so please everyone stop being negitive.
Seriously? The day I bought my HTC Tilt 1, I hard-spled it, and put in a custom rom. Why? Because I got it almost a year after it came out, and the stock os was slow as heck, and custom roms were always better and faster and so on and so forth.
The G1 has been out for over a year and a half. The nexus has been out for 3-4 months. There is a LOT more known about the workings of the g1 than the nexus, there are a LOT more people with a g1 vs a nexus, and so on and so forth. If you wanted a g1, you should've gotten a g1.
I bought a nexus, and I haven't rooted it/unlocked the bootloader or any of that. I haven't felt the need to - Stock, the phone performs light years ahead of any prev. phone I've owned, and I see no reason in rooting it that would add something I don't already have (that I need). It looks good, it works well, it's fast... it has even converted me to using a touchscreen keyboard (in both landscape and portrait) with no regrets whatsoever.
My advice: Give it time, and be patient. Either that, or learn to code and hack roms, and do it yourself. No need to be ungrateful towards those who ARE working towards what you feel they should have done already.
I know what you mean. I'm still waiting for Cyanogen to make my Nexus shoot lasers...
Honestly , I would have to agree with you man. I was led to believe that the potential was going to be endless with this power house we all have bu , the only thing that has REALLY come out of rooting that was good is the wifi tether and USB tether. Everything else is pretty much stock.
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I didn't want a Desire I wanted to buy the next highly supported phone by the Rom community.
I am not *****ing I am simply asking what is causing the dry spell.
Is there something the Devs know about a new powerhouse tmobile phone around the corner so they dont want to waste time or updates coming that change everything soon.
I am not bashing so please everyone stop being negitive.
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No need to be ungrateful towards those who ARE working towards what you feel they should have done already.
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Um did I ever say I was ungreatful?
I had a G1 as I stated.
Dude, you can't compare a port to a phone with less than half the specs to having the real thing.
The g1 is like a pitbull, big and meaty but slow as hell. Nexus is like a grayhound, fast as hell but you can still do a bit to improve.
I for one am happy I upgraded. This is just one of those times you should have kept your mouth shut. (or fingers as it is)
Well, the saying goes...if you want it done right, you have to do it yourself.
Dont take what he said literally, It did sound like you just bought the phone hoping the Devs would take care of you and make your buy worth it. They are all doing what they can with whatever resource available for them.
You might think the Devs are slacking coz they still havent fixed the bluetooth/FM radio problem, but incase you havent noticed these ROMs are still in the Alpha and Beta stages, and they are called that for a reason. Come on man, you dont expect the Devs to perfect a ROM from a phone that hasnt even come out yet, or just came out?!
The G1 has more development, thats because it started as CUPCAKE, a lot more updates came after that, so a lot of stuff for the Devs to play with... But even with the best possible ROM you can flash in the G1 it will never compare to the Nexus! not even a stock Nexus.
P.S. I'd be glad to trade you my G1 for your N1. Just holler
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NO THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID - so please quit trying to start wars.
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ianandamy said:
I know I shouldn't post this here just wanted the devs to maybe respond so we know what is holding up the fun.
I am not a jerk but what happen to the nexus one. We are constantly seeing devs going back to the g1 porting tons of new items into the roms while my nexus is still using the same old same old.
what happened to the fm radio for desire? bluetooth to work on desire? sony x10 roms? etc etc?
all i see lately is a bunch of modded kernels that all seem to be tampering with the processor way too much.
I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
thanks to all that have done great things for nexus, just kinda was expecting a little more.
regards Ian
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No offense but this phone was only released barely 4 months ago. I think it may be a little unrealistic to expect certain hacks to be perfected already. You should try excercising little patience and enjoy your phone for what it is, a great piece of technology. I am running Cyanogenmod 5.0.6 test3 and I am loving it! Go check out the Magic forum and talk to some of the people who have a Rogers Magic or Magic+, I was one of them and they still don't even have root! How about the iPhone 3GS with the latest fixed bootrom? That may help you appreciate the simple things that the N1 offers(Unlockable bootloader out of the box sans warranty). I am sure people are hard at work on features you may want but I am sure these devs are prioritizing what they feel is most important and that may not agree with what you think is priority. Enjoy your phone becuase it is a great phone, if not sell it ebay you can probably get a good return on it.
LoL. Patience, My Young Padawan.
shonanthebarbarianTP2 said:
Honestly , I would have to agree with you man. I was led to believe that the potential was going to be endless with this power house we all have bu , the only thing that has REALLY come out of rooting that was good is the wifi tether and USB tether. Everything else is pretty much stock.
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Well what were you expecting??? Sounds like you were just dead wrong on what to expect.
Root doesn't give much to the g1 as well, it just enables you to access /system/ and su permissions. One can say that the g1 needed to have a **** load of tweaks to make it run better, while the nexus is just an updated and better optimized phone.
You can't even compare running 2.1 on a g1 with that on a nexus.
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I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
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You should have just kept it stock then. lol. And then made a thread about how your 500.00 phone was a waste to buy in a first place. Why not sell it on ebay to get some of your money back?
/reported to mods to move to correct forum
I regret reading this post. I expected more from a person that has been here four years. What a waste of 5 minutes.
ianandamy said:
I know I shouldn't post this here just wanted the devs to maybe respond so we know what is holding up the fun.
I am not a jerk but what happen to the nexus one. We are constantly seeing devs going back to the g1 porting tons of new items into the roms while my nexus is still using the same old same old.
what happened to the fm radio for desire? bluetooth to work on desire? sony x10 roms? etc etc?
all i see lately is a bunch of modded kernels that all seem to be tampering with the processor way too much.
I am just starting to feel like my 500.00 phone was a waste to root.
thanks to all that have done great things for nexus, just kinda was expecting a little more.
regards Ian
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With all due respect to the community, i have to agree.
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Taken down because of people not reading what I said properly and giving me abuse because of it.
Bye
Okay.
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what's this about?
I don't get it...
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what's this about?
I don't get it...
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Everyones moaning and crying about the nexus one being outdated by newer phones such as the incredible and the evo but technically they're all outdated since the htc scorpion is going to be "whats hot". Its really annoying how some of these people are so concerned about being outdated. Appreciate what you have and make the best out of it.
I think
The nexus is still the top phone, which is why I ordered one yesterday even with all the new phones out, this is my reasoning.
Even with a1.5 processor, our nexus can be clocked to a stable 1.2 at least, and with that speed I font believe a phone actually Needs more because my nexus already flys.
That's just my input on this outdated deal.
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... I font believe ...
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You're using Swype, aren't you?
sassyness77 said:
The nexus is still the top phone, which is why I ordered one yesterday even with all the new phones out, this is my reasoning.
Even with a1.5 processor, our nexus can be clocked to a stable 1.2 at least, and with that speed I font believe a phone actually Needs more because my nexus already flys.
That's just my input on this outdated deal.
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If you always MUST live on the "Bleeding Edge" with the best of everything, you will run out of blood and run out of money.
The way I see it, living always on the newest hottest thing out there are for the people with more money than brains.
Yes, I have a Nexus One, I bought it BRAND NEW, but my total out of pocket expense was $140.00, because I sold or traded stuff I had, but stuff I could sell to get the money I needed to get this phone.
So it would not be worth it for me to try and get the next new hot thing out there because I love my N1 and would be hard pressed to see something pass this one up.
I have played with TONS of new android phones that are not out yet (MyTouch Slide, what a joke) and NONE of them are anything that even gave me a slight twinge of wanting to jump off the N1 scene.
these threads are lame... and obviously started by people who don't even own a nexus one.
TotaL BS News...
From a Nexus owner perspective the future is not about slightly better hardware, but about adding real value to the OS.
As far as my Nexus will be updated to any future Android releases I´ll have the better phone out there...others will always have to wait for Google´s compasion.
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Everyones moaning and crying about the nexus one being outdated by newer phones such as the incredible and the evo but technically they're all outdated since the htc scorpion is going to be "whats hot". Its really annoying how some of these people are so concerned about being outdated. Appreciate what you have and make the best out of it.
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Well put, exactly what I mean
sassyness77 said:
The nexus is still the top phone, which is why I ordered one yesterday even with all the new phones out, this is my reasoning.
Even with a1.5 processor, our nexus can be clocked to a stable 1.2 at least, and with that speed I font believe a phone actually Needs more because my nexus already flys.
That's just my input on this outdated deal.
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If that’s what turns you on then fair enough. I maintain the best reason to get a Nexus One (if you accept you eventually have to plump for some phone instead of holding out forever) is that if Google does something cool it’ll pretty much definitely come to us first. And more than likely before everyone else.
But that’s just me, I’m more of a software fan.
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these threads are lame... and obviously started by people who don't even own a nexus one.
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If you are referring to me and this thread, you’ve not read it properly. Please see above.
If you are referring to people I criticised in my original post, then I think they probably do own a Nexus One, and become incredibly defensive about it. The people that don’t own one tend to just post saying how they are not going to get one and then their reasons. You can tell because the whole post usually smacks of someone trying to convince themselves of something.
I thought the Scorpion was rumored to be a tablet anyway.
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And yes for everyone debating if the Incredible or the Evo mean the Nexus is outdated you can all relax.
Because they are out of date now too – search for HTC Scorpion.
.... which I expect to also be superseded around about tea time.
It’s a point that’s been made in other threads – but you CANNOT keep up with new tech (especially phones). You’ll end up financially ruined if you try. So we can all stop going on about it now and just enjoy our Nexus Ones?
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Link?
Specs?
Any info at all whatsoever?
So does this phone make the Nexus One obsolete simply because of its name?
Lol?
How about providing some real information? Or is this just a troll thread?
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So does this phone make the Nexus One obsolete simply because of its name?
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Jesus.... Christ.
That's like the complete opposite of what I said. Please re-read my original post and follow up posts.
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Jesus.... Christ.
That's like the complete opposite of what I said. Please re-read my original post.
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I read your post. You said the Evo and the Incredible are out of date because of the Scorpion, without giving any reason why.
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Okay.
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bewA said:
what's this about?
I don't get it...
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antoniouslj said:
these threads are lame... and obviously started by people who don't even own a nexus one.
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I too don't have any idea whats the purpose of this thread...
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I read your post. You said the Evo and the Incredible are out of date because of the Scorpion, without giving any reason why.
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You said I said the Nexus One was obsolete, watch I’ll quote you again…
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So does this phone make the Nexus One obsolete simply because of its name?
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I said almost the polar opposite.
Anyway the HTC Scorpion, IF all the rumours are true will have a faster processor (1.5Ghz). Just search the name for references (as I said in my original post). Given how people are positively suicidal over a slightly better camera on the Incredible, I imagine this will not go down well. Its only a few rumours at the moment.
What I’m basically saying is the N1 is amazing and in no way obsolete just because something newer is out. There ALWAYS will be. So lets not live and die over newer phones that are going to come anyway. Thread after thread of it. Lets just bask in the glory that is the N1. Again I say see my previous posts.
I’m not trying to troll, just posting my viewpoint. What’s disturbing is you are potentially the second person to accuse me of exactly what I am criticising.
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I too don't have any idea whats the purpose of this thread...
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Epic sigh..
Right fine. No-one is reading, just posting. Pointless.
Mods please close / delete the thread? Or if someone would be kind enough to let me know how if I can close it myself?
Thanks
Bye
This whole thread is dumb; even with the Scorpion coming out HTC is working something to make the scorpion obsolete. Being obsolete doesn't make our Nexus any less awesome than it is.
Wow, they ALL totally missed your point. You were basically telling people to stop complaining about the Nexus One being obsolete. And they all jumped on you thinking you were the one complaining.
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Wow, they ALL totally missed your point. You were basically telling people to stop complaining about the Nexus One being obsolete. And they all jumped on you thinking you were the one complaining.
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That's what I thought when I read through this whole thread or did I miss something? 0.o
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
Darch is still here, Regaw is still here. Not sure who else is.
Toast and flipz have said hero dev will continue, just slow. I think jschi didn't jump ship either. And he is a genius
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
cheer up
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
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HeroMeng said:
No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
Decad3nce said:
Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
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^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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I'm not that sad... lol. I am, however, sweltering, tired, and need to turn my AC on. Darchdroid is the best OC rom out there, and RegawMOD is the best NON-OC rom out there, so I think we are pretty good in the dev side of things.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
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That sucks. I forgot the Nexus was an HTC phone, but I was mostly referring to getting phones that don't have Sense. They usually are updated much faster.
I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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The Hero is sort of the unwanted stepchild of XDA now. But, all the first-time Ebay adopters are coming to our "rescue".
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
Save up and buy an evo.
This is just how the phone loop rolls, once theres something better , you don't go back.
I will be keeping my hero, but yeah look at it this way , XDA devs are not the only ones dumping the phone , so is sprint.
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Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a f
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
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It does have "full root" but the storage has nand locked/protected. It's like that little switch on and SD card or floppy to protect it only its software not hardware theyll break it in a week or two. You can pull apks in recovery... and WiFi tether needs a netfilter kernel so give em a week and it will work.
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I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
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Well Regaw should be back at it soon and with you here it should all be ok anyways.