I'm afraid pictures are out of the question, firstly because it didn't seem to come out to well when I tried, and secondly because I've mostly fixed it, but I'll do my best my best to describe the damage.
Basically in the centre of my screen I've got a patch where the front digitiser appears to have been pressed against the touch sensitive layer at the back and is stuck against it. You can quite clearly see the little dots for the touch screen sensitivity and there are rainbow coloured rings around the outside (newton rings I believe). Basically visually this means I have 1cm by 0.5cm dark patch filled with little dots and surrounded by rainbow coloured rings in the middle of my screen. The screen still works fine, but visually it's really annoying.
Now I believe this has got to be the result of pressure (don't know how, I don't tend to lean on my phones much), and I've somehow managed to apply concentrated pressure to the middle of the screen and dent inwards only the middle of the screen, but what I want to know is how the hell did I do that? It's a glass screen surely it should have cracked rather then dent, I didn't even think you could dent glass, especially not in such a small area without breaking it!
Well if you've somehow managed the what shouldn't be possible yourself as well, then you'll be pleased to hear that you can dramatically improve it by sticking a suction cup on the screen and pulling. I used a sat nav windscreen mount, which did the trick nicely. Now all thats left is a little bit of a rainbow patch in the middle thats a lot less visible.
Hope that made sense.
Hope it helps.
Hope someone can tell me how the hell I dented tempered glass!
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... I didn't even think you could dent glass, especially not in such a small area without breaking it!
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Almost everything will bend before cracking/breaking. To what extent is obviously dependant on the material and its treatment.
I live 13 floors up and you should see our 8 foot tall balcony door windows bend in the wind!
Same problem here, i actually did not put presure on the screen.. but one evening, an ugly black spot with oily rings around it appeared on my screen, blamed the wife first haha but she didn't touch my phone..
I got a sort of solution though:
Use a small plastic suction thingy, like you use to stick things on windows or in the shower, then stick it on the center of the screen above the oily spot. then move and softly pull the suction thingy.
Worked for me.. the black spot is gone but i am left with slight rainbow rings.. seems a bug of that too huge screen...
Anyone else a better solution? replacing the touchscreen is a last resort..
Lol exactly what I did to improve mine.
LMAO .. but a shame that those screens are so dodgy..
Could you please add a picture up here, as i want to see this strange thing?
Thanks in advance.
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Could you please add a picture up here, as i want to see this strange thing?
Thanks in advance.
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You can see it here mate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613631
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the diamond,as we all know has a very weak screen..anything will make a permanent scratch,even your fingernail !....the point is once scratched it looks terrible...the only soultion (so far) is to install the white mannila theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433050
as this completely hides all the scratches...more white/grey /light coloured themes would really help all thoses scratched diamonds out there..so theme makers please do some variations on light/white coloured themes as the scratch problem will only get worse !
That's why there are Screen Protectors.
The screen protector is rubbish too though, i have scratches on mine that have gone through that to the screen.
We all know that accidents can happen to scratch the touch screens but if people just use the inside of their fingers or use the Stylus you shouldn't have a problem. I never have even after 5 touch screen PDA/Phones.
This might be worth a shot:
http://www.amazon.com/Allsop-CD-Scratch-Repair-Kit/dp/B000056NNB
Or you can try furniture polish
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The screen protector is rubbish too though, i have scratches on mine that have gone through that to the screen.
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What the hell are you doing to your screen to get deep scratches like that?
Razor blades do not make good stylus
gobmonster said:
What the hell are you doing to your screen to get deep scratches like that?
Razor blades do not make good stylus
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I'm wondering the same!!!
Have you considered using a nail file, keeps everything smooooooth
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This might be worth a shot:
http://www.amazon.com/Allsop-CD-Scratch-Repair-Kit/dp/B000056NNB
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Those things actually work by grinding down the surface layer so that the scratch is less diffractive. I seriously wouldn't use that on your phone, unless you want to destroy it completely.
I was under the impression you can send it off to have the sreen repaired.
Surely you can polish scratches out?
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Those things actually work by grinding down the surface layer so that the scratch is less diffractive. I seriously wouldn't use that on your phone, unless you want to destroy it completely.
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thats how most polishes work... they either fill it in or take a little bit off the surface.
the best i have found with previous devices is Acrylic Polish (like very fine T-Cut)
you wont break the device using it!
I used toothpaste and a soft cloth, to buff out light scratches from my diamond, it wont completely erase them, but it helps
My mates Dad just jabs at his screen with his car keys, it makes me cringe to think about it.
Surprisingly I took a dremel tool and put a cotton bit on the end, cranked the bugger to full speed and melted the scratch away. Need to be careful with how you do it but it does work. I suppose if you just go right at it and not pay close enough attention you'd warp the screen though...
I'm going to call up T-Mobile today and ask for a new G1.
The lower right corner of the screen is VERY squeaky. It's really loud, and you can feel it squeak when you press around the bottom right 30% of the screen.
The problem is the bottom right corner is being sucked up against the "chin" of the phone. Pulling it away just a milimeter gets rid of the squeak. There is, however, no easy fix unless I want to take sandpaper and start sanding away around the joints.
I'm currious how many other people are having this problem. I've read of a couple of people having it, but I thought I poll would be a decent way to see if it's wide-spread or just a select few devices.
diy-creak-fix
I returned my first one with no problems at all. but if you can't theres a fix here
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/
I got my g1 yesterday... I f'n love it! But the screen does squeak a lil when pressed on and also my screen is not really aligned right when I open the phone to use the keyboard but its really not that noticeable...
Forgive me for being skeptical, but I wonder if you guys are pressing too hard on your screen? Mine only squeaks if I really push on it.
I've found I barely need to touch the screen to get it to respond. If you had the Wing or other WinMo phone, you're probably used to pressing much harder. You shouldn't have to with this phone, it's built to respond to the slightest touch.
Or at least that's my experience. If it's bothering you, by all means get a new phone. Perhaps it's a dual problem, perhaps the screen isn't as responsive, and thus you're forced to press harder and that makes it squeak. Best of luck, guys.
The creaking problem appears to be isolated to the black g1s due to a small plastic lip on the chin where the screen meets the chin. I haven't seen the black in person but pictures show that it is more of a matte finish as opposed to a glossy finish for the bronze. I have the bronze g1 and the chin has this extra piece of plastic but due to it having a glossy finish, it doesn't creak..it slides smootly when pressing the screen corner.
The fix above works!
I was sceptical, but I took an exacto and shave just a little off. I thought it wouldn't hurt. Well it worked perfect and not a squeek to be found even when pressing or sliding. Can't beleive that little flash of modeling makes so much noise. Thanks for the fix.
By the way I had a black G1
Jcostanza4
No, and I'm rockin the bronze; but on an unrelated/semirelated note
The plastic on this screen is like a magnet for finger juices.
Not slick like glass, it has a plasticy feel that makes me miss the original screenplastic that covered it.
and if you have the ToddlerLock and hand it to a kid - what the eff - Grease City, USA.
I have to clean this more often than on my wing, and it's not the simple huhhhuhh/wipe - it's a cloth or shirt with windex or spit.
(yeah I lick my screen and wipe with tshirt to clean it. Hope it doesn't void the warranty)
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(yeah I lick my screen and wipe with tshirt to clean it. Hope it doesn't void the warranty)
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Sounds like normal moisture exposure to me.
lol.
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I returned my first one with no problems at all. but if you can't theres a fix here
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/
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This was an ingenious fix! Worked for me! The screen still moves but no sqeaks!!
I've heard reports of this but mine is dead silent when I push on it. In fact it doesn't even have any give, it's just solid against the phone. I must have just gotten lucky. Mine's black by the way.
Sometimes I hear it, sometimes I don't. Unlike everyone else, I don't see this as a big deal.
if you dont consider it a big deal, then you havent heard one really squeak yet. I have had people ask me what that f-ing noise is when I am talking on the phone. Just rubbing against my face it squeaks...LOUD. My friends black makes no noise, mine is a nightmare
squeeky here
I have had 2 g1 phones, both squeeked
I tried the razor blade trick and it seemed to help a little.
Two G1s and put a file to it - and no more squeek. Finally lol. That was annoying. And the girlfriend has a white one - no squeek. That part isnt there.
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I returned my first one with no problems at all. but if you can't theres a fix here
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/
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i used an little blade to shave it right off
worked perfectly
i had called tmobile to ask them to replace it but they said they cant do anything about it
so i took matters into my own hands
did it in less than 30 seconds and pressed as hard as i could and didnt heard a squeek at all
I have a white g1 and the creaking sounds are pushing me that much i feel like selling up th problem is i got my phone new from ebay so i dont think i can send it back also when the phone is open the screen is not alingend this is horrible and i cant help but notice it is there any fix for that problem?
no squeaky for me!
White G1 here.
My G1 is super sqeeky. I have had it replaced 3 times for various screen problems.... every one I have had seems to squeek. Just tried the razor trick... Didn't seem to help. Oh well.... doesn't bother me That much. Embrace your sqeeks.
Man... the squeek didn't even bother me till I actually read this thread and paid attention to it
yes same here!
probably it is a HTC production problem
hi there!
i got my touch hd last week and i have sth i wonder about if it is right or sth like a defect:
the touchscreen works great and its everything ok with it... but:
it seems to me that the touchscreen is sth like a foil that recognizes the inputs/pressure. fo safety reasons and to keep this foil from being damaged/scratched, there is a thick(er) plastic foil over this first "touch-foil".
on my device, the seems to be some space between these to foils in the middle of the screen. sth like ~0.5mm or so.
the effect is, that (my touch-sensitivity is set to max) touching a control at the SIDE of my screen very softly leads to imminent touch-recognition, while in the center of the screen there is this "gap" between the foils so that one has to push the upper foil down these 0.5mm until the touch is recognized.
acutually i can really FEEL that i have to push down the outer foil until the touchscreen recognizes the input...
i checked another hd-device (the one of a friend) and his device did not have this "gap".
is this a defect so i should return my device to htc for repairs or is this a common thing and nothing to worry about?
Hello,
I have the same "gap problem" but I think it is supposed to be like that.
even this phone from this friend mentined does not have this spacing? i'm anxious that this is sth thats not right...
anyone else here with the same sort of problem?
I have the same problem with the screen
HD has resistive touchscreen which has very thin layer before glass. In bigger screens, like HDs it has small gap in it.
Some older devices had way worse problems with this, like my wizard it felt like 1mm gap sometimes.
Try to live with it, its more like feature in resistive screens
Go for iphone if you dont want it.
lefteyeclosed said:
i checked another hd-device (the one of a friend) and his device did not have this "gap".
is this a defect so i should return my device to htc for repairs or is this a common thing and nothing to worry about?
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The pressure in the touch screen should be uniform, but in some units it's not.
If you can, you should replace (not repair) it with a new one.
In my unit it's harder to press the uppper corners with the pen, but its a small diference, I have to make a bit more pressure (less than double pressure).
Mr.Wolf said:
The pressure in the touch screen should be uniform, but in some units it's not.
If you can, you should replace (not repair) it with a new one.
In my unit it's harder to press the uppper corners with the pen, but its a small diference, I have to make a bit more pressure (less than double pressure).
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Hi, thats exactly the problem I have on mine (specifically the upper right where the Close button is)!! Mine is only 5 days old from Orange. Do you think I should get it replaced? When typing texts etc the 'keyboard' feels spongy - I am guessing this is the gap people talk about?
Thanks for any advice.
Rich
This is not a defect...it is just the glass screen is installed on different ways...my has some 0.1mm gap in the middle..but almost nil at the side..
But if your gap is around 0.5mm, I understand it is quite annoying...go and replace it but test the new ones first...
It is luck dependent..
you might get bad pixel(s)
Duffy buttons
peeling paint
flickering display
Mine is quite perfect... since I bought it to Fortress store in HK..and opened up at least 5 units and chose the perfect ones..
BUT I stayed there for almost an hour ..checking..
Thanks for your reply. I have just received a replacement from Orange today and the screen seems a bit more responsive however it rattles when its in vibrate mode so I am getting another one tomorrow evening. Orange have been very good about this I have to say.
Thx again
Rich
My MyTouch 3G Slide has a couple defects. The bezel or plastic housing that surrounds the upper portion of the device surrounding the screen has gaps in it around the seam that allows dust or any small particulate to enter under the screen. I have looked at several of the devices and they all have it to one degree or another. For instance, on my Slide I have 3 of these holes one of which has allowed a grain of sand under my screen. My wife's Slide has 4 of these holes or gaps and they are substantial on her phone. One XDA member has had this happen in the same spot that both my wife and my Slides are collecting dust.
While the light leaks or gaps in the bezel are a problem (for me) I think the real problem lies in the adhesive strip that connects the digitizer to the LCD screen. The way the digitizer is adhered to the LCD there shouldn't be any way for dust to have gotten in between the two pieces of hardware. I'd like to believe that it was just my particular phone but my wife's phone is having the exact same issue.
The phone really is phenomenal and I'm sure it was just a fluke that I've had issues (hoping so). Just keep an eye out for any issues similar to what I've mentioned above. I have really gone back and forth with this and I am definitely disappointed with having an issue(s) right out of the gate. My wife really likes the phone and after giving it some thought I like it as well ... a lot. I will return and reorder another couple Slides because this device is that awesome. Thanks for your thoughts/contributions to the thread.
I've tried to get some photos of the gaps but they are small and hard to photograph. To inspect your device: Go into a dark area and pull up your contacts, messaging app or a white web page in the browser with full screen brightness and inspect the seam of the plastic housing surrounding the touch screen on the top half of the slide. The gaps are almost like rectangular notches just below/above the corners of the screen in the seam. My theory is that these are artifacts from the plastic molding process that were exacerbated by poor/hasty assembly. I am definitely returning my Slides.
Its all true. After reading, and seeing the image posted by another member here, I checked my phone. I went into a dark room, opened up a site that has pretty much a white page, and I too noticed a gap at the bottom right hand corner of my screen. As of right now no dust/dirt has shown up under my screen, but what's to say that it won't later on. Heck, screw dirt. What if moisture finds its way in, and starts to fog up the screen from within? This could be a major problem later on down the road.
whew... just checked mine, noticed nothing like that, thank goodness.
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whew... just checked mine, noticed nothing like that, thank goodness.
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Strange, I've confirmed with everyone I know with a Slide (only black and white thus far) and everyone is seeing the same thing. What color Slide did you get? I wonder if the red Slide is manufactured differently? Anyway, that is awesome because I think the phone is GREAT other than the small gaps in the bezel.
I will say I took some compressed air and attempted to move the artifact under my screen just to see if air was moving through those gaps. The grain of sand or whatever it is did not budge. I'm just not sure what to think. I hate the idea of returning this phone ...
Mine is like that. Not that i care much as im returning it soon. But it does have gaps and light leakage all over the bottom of the screen, near the buttons.
i just check my and maybe i cant see it but i havent found anything... i have a red one
Re: My MT3G Slides (and others) Have A Defective Touch Screen Bezel
Initialy checked mine as well, black. I don't appear to have this problem either.
I will inspect further to verify.
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The only one I have is at the very bottom of the buttons, which might even just be the light hitting the glass at a specific angle. Other than that, no light leaks/cracks/blocks/whatever you call them on my screen area. Red Espresso.
I just swapped my white MTS for a Black one with no signs of cracks or light showing threw. TMO rep did not know of this problem and said he would send out an e-mail to other reps to let them know.
My day is now ruined
Yep, both bottom sides, right at the corners, above the buttons. I will not return it though, think instead a lil duct tape and some JB weld will do (seriously, a little touch of black silicon for a good seal, still sucks though). Screen cover seems to be blocking any dirt at the moment.
woow good looking out.. i was wondering how a spec of dust got to my screen. im planning on putting a piece of scotch tape over those regions (i have a red slide btw).
I have a red one and didn't see any leaks bottom or top. Thank goodness!
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I hear you; I've been trying to find a way to keep the bezel sealed until I can get a case/cover for the phone. I literally have one tiny grain of sand at the bottom left hand corner of my screen. I so don't want to return the phone; I'm in love with the thing.
Glad to hear some of you have a better seal on the bezel.
I have some small light leak on the bottom, not an issue yet and I'm still within my 14 days so I might stop by the t mobile store tomorrow and try to get a replacement.
1. slight curved gaps at the corner edge where the top of the plastic curves down to turn into the sides. check
2. vertical rectangular light leak above home and genius keys. check
3. these lights only light up when hard keys are lit..when screen first lights up...light leaks are not there...once keys light up, light in the gaps light up. doesnt this mean the screen is sealed and there is no leak from the screen itself?
4. however, if you have a creaky top plastic housing, the seam running along the edge of the white plastic and grey plastic is not flush...on my 1st slide, i could see the screen light up in these 'cracks' of the seam...could debris get into screen this way then?
5. for those with debris already at lower left part of screen: pls do me a favor:
hold phone (sideways with back cover facing the ground) at just below eye level and try to see that left corner that is underneath the painted black surround of the screen..do you see white light when the screen is lit? if you look along the 'inside' edges along the rest of the phone, you will see that there should not be white light emitting out and should have a 'clean' look...there should basically be a solid black border...perhaps, if you guys have this white lighting show through, that could mean a separation of the screen somehow? btw, you do not have to be in a dark room to see this light along the inside edge....it is very noticable as the light comes thru where i think there should be no light. ps: when looking at the phone screen normally (ie from top down), screen looks perfect and this issue doesnt affect actual picture on screen.
my first slide had the light leaks but i didnt think anything of them as i thought they were related to the buttons only...but the issue i had spoke of in #5 above, i had this light coming thru along the whole edge of the bottom of the screen plus creaky top plastic housing.
I have dust under the entire screen of 2 Slides (Espresso), I couldn't notice it indoors but it is glaringly apparent when in the sun. The phones go back tomorrow. I've had my G1 for a year and a half with not a single spec of dust under the screen. I've had 2 MT3G Slides (Espresso) for 6 days and dust is under both screens; these devices are very cheaply made. Phone is lightning fast, screen size is great, physical keyboard is great, UI has some excellent features you can find nowhere else ... too bad I won't be keeping them. Been nice knowing you guys.
Seriously everyone be lucky that this is the only problem that people are having with this phone. You want to talk about shoddy build quality on first run devices, lets not even mention what the original PSP was like. If all that's wrong is that a few people have a bad bezel, then I'd say you made out well with the phone. NJAZ, just exchange them and have the employee test them at the store before you walk out with it, problem solved.
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NJAZ, just exchange them and have the employee test them at the store before you walk out with it, problem solved.
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Well I have to send them back as I ordered them online. 2 phones plus about 5 other people I know with these phones have dust blowing in under the defective bezel. It's unacceptable. Like I care about a PSP. What the hell does a PSP have to do with this? You didn't even comment on your phone having the light leaks/gaps or not. What is your point? You think folks should settle for inferior builds of an expensive phone? You can ignore whatever you'd like. I will wait for a better phone.
Wanted to add to my previous post about mine not having the leak... I have the red one.
I'm using my SGS for almost a month now and there're appearing strange spots on the screen. I have absolutely no idea what it is and what's causing it. Has anyone seen something like this before?
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I'm using my SGS for almost a month now and there're appearing strange spots on the screen. I have absolutely no idea what it is and what's causing it. Has anyone seen something like this before?
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Never before.. the screen is totally off? What do you use to clean the screen? Do you feel the same touching the bright area and the opaque area?
Silly question maybe but has it got a screen protector on it?
Is it very humid where you are? Looks like moisture under the screen.
Take it to Samsung, maybe it's some kind of defect that's allowing moisture in.
There's no screenprotector on it. When it just appeared I couldn't feel the spots, now I can by moving my finger over them. They look like tiny scratches caused by sand but I always carry my phone in my pocket so that's just impossible.
At the photo the screen is totally turned off. I don't use any chemicals to clean the screen.
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There's no screenprotector on it. When it just appeared I couldn't feel the spots, now I can by moving my finger over them. They look like tiny scratches caused by sand but I always carry my phone in my pocket so that's just impossible.
At the photo the screen is totally turned off. I don't use any chemicals to clean the screen.
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No idea.. I'm using screen protector until I got it out the box. By the way I always carry it in my pants pocket, and normally I use jeans... but the protector looks fine.
The area does look like the usual place to touch the screen (normal keyboard usage at the bottom of the screen and up/down scrolling in the middle). My only conclusion is either a defect screen or you've used it once without noticing you still had some chemicals on your skin.
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Looks like you damaged your screen by some form of excessive pressure on the screen
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Looks like you damaged your screen by some form of excessive pressure on the screen
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My thought too, maybe it had pressure with someting when you had it in your pocket with something else that was in your pocket or something that pressed you leg/poket for outside
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My thought too, maybe it had pressure with someting when you had it in your pocket with something else that was in your pocket or something that pressed you leg/poket for outside
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I never carry something in the same pocket a where I carry my phone in. As I move my finger over the screen I can slightly feel a bit of rough surface but when I clean my screen it's not visible while some other damaging is.
If it is in fact a damaged screen I wouldn't panic too much. There are tutorials online on how to repair damaged screens (as long as they're glass). You sand and polish the screen and it comes out as good as new. Although, for the SGS it would probably be best to remove the screen from the chasis first (they don't remove the screen as there is no bezel).
What games have you been playing? It look more like rubbing marks on several games that I can think off.
The damage is probably under the glass from excessive pressure over a pride of time.
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The coating has come off the screen it looks like... something must have been on your hands that burnt it off.
It's almost impossible the damage has been caused by excessive pressure. Since a few days I can actually feel the spots as they are a bit more rough then the rest of the screen. If the coating has come of the screen, will it be accepted when I return it warranty?
I had exactly this but a bit smaller. I took it back to the store (Hi) and requested a repair. The first time i noted 2 errors for it:
- Screen screwed
- GPS fix doesnt work or takes long
So... what they did; they flashed 2.2 and sent it back as repaired (funny I downgraded it to 2.1 stock after running 2.2.1 for weeks for this repair...). The folks at Hi agreed it was bullsh*t and they sent it again with the notice they didn't repair the screen. After another week the online status page said they didn't find a defect. Hi called them before they sent it back to have another look at it, since I even provided pictures with a red circle around the spots I'm still confused how they could miss this (maybe only blind people work at Teleplan...?). Then a few days later i saw they replaced "front mea i9000". Since today i got it back with a brand new screen. So.. if anyone else has this problem: send it back for repair and provide the picture in this topic to be extra clear (I wish I saw this photo, otherwise I would have provided this one with it).
I have the same thing only a lot smaller...
I have a circle on my screen from my €2 currency. Its not a scratch but something weird...
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There's no screenprotector on it. When it just appeared I couldn't feel the spots, now I can by moving my finger over them. They look like tiny scratches caused by sand but I always carry my phone in my pocket so that's just impossible.
At the photo the screen is totally turned off. I don't use any chemicals to clean the screen.
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did not you touch it accidentally with a "dirty" finger? (like isopropyl alcohol or adhesive remover etc) I had a similar damage on my HTC phone long time ago... I forgot to wash my hand before I picked up a call.
Looks like pressure damage. Had something similar with a htc touch. Looked like a oil like fluid within the screen. Amazingly the screen works still great. But the touch had a resistive screen, the sgs ones is capacitive. This in mind I don't know if it could be the same problem.
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