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Hi Folks,
I'm reading this forum since about 1,5 weeks, as I got my first smartphone then. Unfortunaly I sent it back today, as it got broken yesterday. It has the problem, that the touchscreen doesn't untouch. I made a picture:
I can get rid of this touched area by pressing on it with my fingernail and move it to the bottom.
I think it's from that lether case. Anybody else ever had a problem like that? Probably with another phone type?
Looks like condensation under the screen to me.
Reapply screen protector... That's it..
I thought about water also, but under the microscope we have seen that it wasn't water. I was able to remove it restless until I touched it next.
I removed the screenprotector, but that wasn't a solution.
Unfortonaly I had to send it back today, as I'll get a brandnew one within the first 14 Days after delivery
Wow that's new. Mebe condensation.
Maybe since the touch part is 2 layers, Glass and Plastic screen hovering on top of that, that it got too hot somehow and that the plastic part got stuck to the glass. mebe if you had let it cool or something it woulda unstuck.
Was the phone near any heat or in direct sunlight?\
This looks like a cracked digitizer, a touch sensitive layer above the screen itself. The screen underneath usually seems to be fine, but it doesn't have the touch capabilities anymore. It has a look of spilled liquid and you should be able to see dots of the touch grid, you can't see them normally. It happened to me on my Orbit2. I think whole screen has to be changed...
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This looks like a cracked digitizer, a touch sensitive layer above the screen itself. The screen underneath usually seems to be fine, but it doesn't have the touch capabilities anymore. It has a look of spilled liquid and you should be able to see dots of the touch grid, you can't see them normally. It happened to me on my Orbit2. I think whole screen has to be changed...
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I thought about something like that too. Has the digitizer a "spazial" filling, so that you have a "soft feeling" when you tab it with the penzil?
HTC Touch Freak said:
Wow that's new. Mebe condensation.
Maybe since the touch part is 2 layers, Glass and Plastic screen hovering on top of that, that it got too hot somehow and that the plastic part got stuck to the glass. mebe if you had let it cool or something it woulda unstuck.
Was the phone near any heat or in direct sunlight?\
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I had the phone in my trouser pocket every day. No sunlight or heat. I tried cooling down...no chance. I had a Cassiopeia once and had a waterdamage to it. There I was able to get the water out of the touchpad by having it on my heating for a few days. But it looked not like this here.
HI
i have the same problem with my diamond2.. i have on screen brando ultra clear ,i have called assistance and i must ship to them
now what i do, i must try to remove screenprotector before carry the phone to assistance or no?
help me
excuse for my bad english
tornado75 said:
HI
i have the same problem with my diamond2.. i have on screen brando ultra clear ,i have called assistance and i must ship to them
now what i do, i must try to remove screenprotector before carry the phone to assistance or no?
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I had the same screen protector...strange. I removed it before i sent it back. After removing I tried, but the error wasn't gone. I think better remove it before sending it back, but you should also try if this fixes the problem. Tell us if or if not
Sqoerk said:
I had the same screen protector...strange. I removed it before i sent it back. After removing I tried, but the error wasn't gone. I think better remove it before sending it back, but you should also try if this fixes the problem. Tell us if or if not
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i have removed the screenprotector but is the same error, i have sended it to assistance center this afternoon...
i wouldn't pay for damage why the phone is never fall
i hope well
Just had the same problem with my Td2. Not impressed. The phone was fine one minute as listening to my music on it, popped it in my pocket went upstairs ang got this blob right in the centre of the screen.
Glad I took the insurance now as this is going to have to get sent back. Not overly impressed as only had the phone for 6 weeks and having a problem with the build.
Just a quick question for those that had this problem. Was the damaged screen visible under all types of light?
I ask this because taking into different rooms in my house and different types of light it seems to disappear, then reappears under other light sources. I will test in the daytime tomorrow but am now starting to wonder exactly how long it has been there...
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Just a quick question for those that had this problem. Was the damaged screen visible under all types of light?
I ask this because taking into different rooms in my house and different types of light it seems to disappear, then reappears under other light sources. I will test in the daytime tomorrow but am now starting to wonder exactly how long it has been there...
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My "blob" couldn't be seen when I looked straight from above. As on my pictrue I had to look from a angle to see it. Also it was hard to see under bright daylight. Hope that helps.
But I have a question also: You all used the leather bag shipped with the phone? I think the case isn't plain enought inside. I think there is a higher pressure one the display while wearing it in my trouser pocket. Anybody else who can tell more about that?
I've the same problem, at least I think it is the same. Touch still works fine, but it seems like there is some condensation underneath the screen.
I can confirm that it has nothing to do with the screenprotector.
If I put my finger on it, it moves to the sides. Sometimes it seems to be gone, but after a while I notice it again.
It's a very colourful stain. Can I claim warranty for this kind of 'errors'?
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It's a very colourful stain. Can I claim warranty for this kind of 'errors'?
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As you are the 4th in this thread I think so
It's not under warranty of HTC, at least that's what they told me...
Did somebody else contacted HTC about this problem?
dlarge said:
It's not under warranty of HTC, at least that's what they told me...
Did somebody else contacted HTC about this problem?
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too bad it seems like they classify it under 'cracked display' - and according to the user manual it is not covered by warranty.
Probably, but I think it's just an error of HTC. The way they treat their loyal customers is, in my opinion, verry disappointing. It was the same with the problems everyone had with the TytnII.
Today I got my phone back from my provider...the same broken one. In the letter they told my I sent it back too later
Now I'm dissapointed from o2 Germany, cause the customer support told me what to do and I did it.
guys i had the same problem (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519441) and i got a replacement. but i tell you.. this is caused because one time the phone got hit by pressure on the screen and the screen itself kinda felt into the phonecase. check out from the side.. you probably will see that the screen is lowered - then when you use fingers on the touchscreen this blob appears. in my case the screen didnt work anymore as soon the blob appeared... but was able to get it out with some tissue and rubbing.
also i saw some oil liquid under de screen - depending on the light outside.
so.. just take care.. this phone is very sensitive to any pressure on the screen and using it in a trouser pocket is already dangerous!
Screen works fine just has some scratches and a burn where a rogue piece of burning ash hit the screen. Do I replace the entire LCD or just the touch/digitizer?
Whole screen... Just remember though, sometimes its better to leave well enough alone... Touch it and you may just cause problems.
Use the HTC service manual to take your Hermes apart, you need to check what screen it is. Buy the LCD and digitizer as one piece, you don't want the hell of trying to put them together.
Good luck...
I'm pretty adept when it comes to taking these things apart. The digitizer replacement looks difficult though. Kits with the screen are around $20 though so I'll go that route.
I was thinking maybe I could take off that bottom "HTC" cover and gently pinch the sleeve of the USB connector back together. Anyone successfully done this?
Thanks!
this is exactly why i use the dock & WANT the car dock..
It just pops off, Google for a tear down.
I'm in the middle of taking mine apart to clean dust from the screen. Can't get a warranty replacement cause the phone is rooted. The bottom piece is a real pain to take off, but can be done with some patience. Just make sure to use a plastic tool and not a screwdriver. I used the ifixit teardown guide and a youtube teardown guide.
Quick question, how long was it before you got dust under the screen? Also did you notice any signs such as the screen not being totally flush with the housing? I really need to know because I'd like to root my N1 but it's only been a month. Also from what I've seen around the forum there is a gentlemen that can help you get a warranty from HTC but idk about now that you've opened the phone
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I'm in the middle of taking mine apart to clean dust from the screen. Can't get a warranty replacement cause the phone is rooted. The bottom piece is a real pain to take off, but can be done with some patience. Just make sure to use a plastic tool and not a screwdriver. I used the ifixit teardown guide and a youtube teardown guide.
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Did you try to get a replacement and were refused because you are rooted or did you not try because you knew you would be refused?
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Quick question, how long was it before you got dust under the screen? Also did you notice any signs such as the screen not being totally flush with the housing? I really need to know because I'd like to root my N1 but it's only been a month. Also from what I've seen around the forum there is a gentlemen that can help you get a warranty from HTC but idk about now that you've opened the phone
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Had my phone a couple months before I noticed any dust. The bottom left corner (where there was dust) seems like maybe it's sealed as 100% as the other corners, but nothing obvious at all and no clicking sound type stuff that others have reported. I posted some pictures in the dust thread.
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Did you try to get a replacement and were refused because you are rooted or did you not try because you knew you would be refused?
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I told them I'd rooted and they guy said my warranty was void. Said I could send it in and there's a chance that they would take it, but also that they could charge me for a board swap, which is $196. He couldn't give me a certain answer how it would be handled. Said that they take care of the warranty service in their Houston location, which wasn't where he was at, so he couldn't find out for sure.
I have dust on the side of my screen. One white speck just to annoy me. I wouldnt mess with taking it apart in fear that i might add even more dust underneath
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I told them I'd rooted and they guy said my warranty was void. Said I could send it in and there's a chance that they would take it, but also that they could charge me for a board swap, which is $196. He couldn't give me a certain answer how it would be handled. Said that they take care of the warranty service in their Houston location, which wasn't where he was at, so he couldn't find out for sure.
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I dont get why people are doing this. If it was me, I'd keep quiet about the bootloader's status and see if they notice.
It's not like you can hide the telltale padlock.. It's there for a reason. HTC made it easy too see if you voided the warranty.
Indeed you can't, but the technicians may not care, or even be paying attention when it boots up and miss it, or even not bothering to turn it on for something like a dusty screen.
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I dont get why people are doing this. If it was me, I'd keep quiet about the bootloader's status and see if they notice.
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I was told that if they notice, they'd likely charge my card $196 to replace the main PCB. The other alternative was that they'd call me back and tell me the warranty was void and send my original phone back and have me send back the replacement. Either way, I have to wait til that all plays out before I could root the replacement phone and get it set back up like my original. Instead, I spent two hours with the phone I've got and the screen looks like new.
dhendrix11 said:
Had my phone a couple months before I noticed any dust. The bottom left corner (where there was dust) seems like maybe it's sealed as 100% as the other corners, but nothing obvious at all and no clicking sound type stuff that others have reported. I posted some pictures in the dust thread.
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I appreciate the response I'll check it out, I am just extremely worried. At the same time, I have never had my phone replaced. I usually just work on them myself for all those simple problems. I don't know that my screen is sealed properly, it clicks occasionally but hasn't been lately. But it definitely doesn't sit flush with the right side..
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I was thinking maybe I could take off that bottom "HTC" cover and gently pinch the sleeve of the USB connector back together. Anyone successfully done this?
Thanks!
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Maybe this would help , if you dont fix it ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nexus-One-Port-...ZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item5886e20fb8
Good luck ...
50 bucks for a standard micro USB port? That's daylight robbery, any electronics supplier will have for peanuts!
I've heard of this problem happening on other devices (see here, here, here, and although not what mine looks like, here), but I was wondering what I can do about this problem. This is called Newton's Rings, I believe, and there's a nice wikipedia article about it. Apparently it's a problem under the screen.
It's an oily smudge. It appears to be made up of asymmetric rainbow-colored rings and is apparently under the screen. It is only visible in indoor lighting in certain angles, and is less visible when the screen is on. When pressure is applied around this spot, it appears to shift slightly. It's been present for over a week on my device without much change.
The HD2 has a capacitive screen, so the method to correct these spots (the "duct tape method") is said not to work. How can I fix this problem? I'm pretty sure I didn't cause it since I was careful with my device--it could have been there (most likely) from the time of purchase.
Should I ask for an exchange at my local T mobile store? Should I try duct tape or a vacuum cleaner to suck the screen forward, or should I try to open the device up and detach the screen, or should I beg for a return?
Help!
PS: You might want to check your HD2's as well...
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I think you would have to have a resistive screen to even have this problem. A capacitive screen doesn't have these "layers." And, it requires a curvature to induce the inference rings which a hard glass screen with no layers doesn't have.
I followed a couple of them threads some time ago, and if I remember correctly some users which had this problem you're postin' about have had their hd2 replaced by htc cause it should fall under warranty terms. Return it to your local t-mo store and ask for a replacement. Should they deny that, try calling htc customer care and see if you can send it in to corporate for repair/exchange. I'd recommend that you try official ways first before attempting to disassemble it or to fix it by yourself as you may end up voiding your warranty..
Since you have a US T-Mobile HD2, and it has been less than 14 days and within the return period, you should be able to get it replaced at the store.
This is obviously a problem with the screen and you shouldnt try to fix it in any way. If you have installed or modded it in any way then return it to stock condition and take it back to your store. They are obliged to give you a replacement as it is a faulty unit. do not accept anything less.
Mark.
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
Reignzone said:
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
chrys9989 said:
I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
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LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
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rickyzone said:
Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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Alright. Well, my apologies for the "disrespect".
I'm merely saying that a screen sleeve, protector, or WHATEVER is how someone could go about preventing the oil corrosion that occurs from natural skin oils on the screen.
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
curiousGeorge said:
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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I had exactly the same situation with my old Hermes (going back quite a few years). I got it through the post from Tmobile and was playing happily with it for about half an hour until I noticed an oily patch exactly as you describe. Rang up Customer Support and they asked me if I had sat on the phone or knocked it in any way.. And this was after having the phone in my possession for 30 minutes HAHA in the end they told me to take the phone to the nearest store to confirm the problem and I got a straight replacement.
I think its caused by a leak in the LCD. You can try, as sugested on other threads to get some tape and try to pull the glass away from the liquid but this would only really be worth trying if your phone was out of manufacturers warranty. Since you have not had your phone long at all you are entitled to a direct replacement under the Sale of Goods Act.
Going back to earlier posts, too much pressure could cause this sort of problem but as stated with a good quality glass which the HD2 has this is very unlikely unless you had an elephant sit on it
More likely the LCD is defective and if the oily patch is noticeble to you then the seller has no other recourse. If I was you I would deal with this matter as soon as possible though so that you get a stisfactory result.
Mark.
Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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All touchscreens suffer from defects (yes even ipdods and iphones lol). The trick is to send it back the moment you spot it and not sit on it and wait, hoping it will go away. It wont. You can use the tape method to pull the screen away from the bleed but the liquid will still be there and sooner or later it will just come back.
I noticed a bleed on my OLD hermes the day I got it from brand new, rang up the shop (tmobile uk) and they tried to tell me that I must have sat on it or dropped it. Everyone who purchases a device has a right that it will work for a 'reasonable' amount of time without defects appearing so you have to push your rights and get it changed (not fixed) for a new device.
If your device is out of warranty and you have a bleed on the screen the only thing you can really do is change the screen. These can be found on ebay and not that hard to do. For your Touch HD you can get one *HERE* but you have to weigh up whether its cheaper to just buy a new device or fix the one you have.
And I dont really think atmospheric pressure between different places would have any affect as lcd screens are built to work pretty much anywhere and if that was the case every time someone got on a plane their device would go capput.
Mark.
i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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Mark.
I just found dust under my screen and i'm not sure what to do. I this is my second replacement, 1st had bad screen a creaky buttons and now this one is perfect but with just dust under screen...should i deal with it or get a replacement? I'm just worried that i'm gonna get an even worse phone then i have. Thanks
i would keep i to have dust under the screen and a dead pixel T_T but everything else is perfect with my phone and i dont wanna take the chance of replacing it with a bad screen or creaky buttons
Don't worry about it I also have dust under my screen as soon or later it will get in. Now its not end of the world but if you don't have any other problems as we all know due to inferior QC of HTC being bad screen, of center FFC, creaky button then no need to replace it.
i also have dust under the screen. its annoying! i also have creeky buttons and sides. but i have a good screen.
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I just found dust under my screen and i'm not sure what to do.
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I say replace it while it is still under warranty. My first one had dust under the screen and I'm glad I replaced it. T-Mobile was as nice as could be. The phone I have now is perfect (physically) and I'm very pleased.
Root the phone, get Titanium (the free version works fine), back it up, and restoring it is easy (the widgets are all you have to redo).