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Hey guys,
I have a rooted and unlocked Vibrant running Bionix 1.3.1 (Froyo) with the Overstock kernel and I am wondering if the Google Maps navigation feature(s) with abroad, say in India.
I'm potentially going to travel there in a month and I already have unlocked my phone so I can use whatever prepaid voice/data service they have over there. But I am not sure how an American phone would with there, especially since these phones seen to be best optimized for American networks. I have read a couple articles about something called Brut Maps but don't know much about it, and it also seems to lack "turn by turn"directions". Any advice here from international travelers seeking to user their phones abroad, especially for navigation,.would be appreciated! Thank you!
Ps, just wanted to note, they only have 3g there in India (which also just recently came there to my knowledge, haven't been there in 12yrs).
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Depends on which country you go to, It works in Brazil. BTW Because the Vibrant has all the GSM signal already plugged in, you should be able to make it work with a Prepaid sim wherever they sell, you may need to use the #code to switch manually which freq you want to be on, but you can do it easy I have
chicagopride23 said:
Hey guys,
I have a rooted and unlocked Vibrant running Bionix 1.3.1 (Froyo) with the Overstock kernel and I am wondering if the Google Maps navigation feature(s) with abroad, say in India.
I'm potentially going to travel there in a month and I already have unlocked my phone so I can use whatever prepaid voice/data service they have over there. But I am not sure how an American phone would with there, especially since these phones seen to be best optimized for American networks. I have read a couple articles about something called Brut Maps but don't know much about it, and it also seems to lack "turn by turn"directions". Any advice here from international travelers seeking to user their phones abroad, especially for navigation,.would be appreciated! Thank you!
Ps, just wanted to note, they only have 3g there in India (which also just recently came there to my knowledge, haven't been there in 12yrs).
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Your phone will work fine there. 3G will work on most carriers as well, Airtel will be a good option.
Google NAV will not work, Maps will work to some extent (It'll help you get from City to city but not really from point A(address) to point B(address) unless you use lat/lon)
your best bet in India is to ask directions to bystanders on street or better yet, take public transportation.
public transportation
people die on those buses with no legal help
Hello all has anyone got google wallet working yet or dose anyone know how to change the device ID and network code so we are able to get this working ?
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General Disclaimer, I don't own an S4, and reside stateside, nor do I work for Google or any telco.
At the moment it doesn't look like non-American based accounts would be able to use Google Wallet. Even here in the States, not all NFC equipped devices can use Google Wallet because of Corporate decision made by three of the major four US Cellular Carriers (AT&T,a GSM carrier. T-Mobile, another GSM carrier and Verizon, a CDMA carrier), with the sole carrier officially supporting Google Wallet being Sprint (a Telco using CDMA).
One of possible problems right now may deal with the differing financial regulations that covers EuroZone in comparison to the US.
Sorry its not the most optimistic answer
Joe
So this is a puerto rico model "ROW" xt1058. got it on ebay for $540 or so (some sellers shipping out of puerto rico have it for ~$500 for white ones, oddly the black ones cost more... and i wanted one shipped from a seller in the 48 states), shipped from some seller in illinois who probably bought a pile of them in puerto rico.
This same unit that negri sells.. http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-moto-x-16gb-claro-unlocked-black.html
Anyway, here is what I have to say about it.
I booted it up, and it started in english (i've heard if you get a latin america unit from other countries you have to change to spanish).
Its just like any american unit except made in china. Also I had a XT1053 t-mobile edition that i returned. Mine had a very minor scrape on the bottom back edge, and 2 little plastic defects on the LCD trim (like the one ifixit had on their unit). This chinese unit has none of that.
It also came unlocked, has no carrier branding anywhere or carrier apps. seems to be working ok so far on 4G. Also another nice thing it came with a mic / headset which the american ones don't come with. One other difference, the default background is the phasebeam not that american flag motif.
I suppose that is to make up for the labor costs who knows. So given the sellers on ebay don't charge tax, its about a $100 savings... haven't tried to unlock the bootloader yet but it is on the list, so should be no problem. if you are on at&t and want to save $100 over the xt1053 well this is an option.
also another difference i just noticed which is i guess of the marketing driven lies only in the US.
if you are on LTE on the claro phones it says "4G" in the status bar. if you are on HSPA or HSPA+ it says either H or H+. nice and non confusing.
on my t-mobile unit, it ALWAYS said 4G. with a tiny LTE on it if it was 4G LTE.
thanks for the review, I too was thinking about buying from ebay. let us know how you get on with unlocking the bootleader :good:
edit: btw did you receive the camera update yet?
If you get a moment, would you mind checking if Tap and Pay is available in Google Wallet, please?
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If you get a moment, would you mind checking if Tap and Pay is available in Google Wallet, please?
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that would be a no at least there is no setting to turn it on in "my wallet". i'm guessing its carrier specific, and t-mobile isn't having it.
kocua said:
thanks for the review, I too was thinking about buying from ebay. let us know how you get on with unlocking the bootleader :good:
edit: btw did you receive the camera update yet?
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nope no camera update yet. i hit update and nothing. i'm gonna guess the updates would be a little earlier than at&t hopefully.
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if you are on LTE on the claro phones it says "4G" in the status bar. if you are on HSPA or HSPA+ it says either H or H+. nice and non confusing.
on my t-mobile unit, it ALWAYS said 4G. with a tiny LTE on it if it was 4G LTE.
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Odd. Shouldn't stock Android phones say H, H+ or LTE instead of 4G? That's what mine does. RCI (Canadian) XT1058.
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johnny grep said:
Odd. Shouldn't stock Android phones say H, H+ or LTE instead of 4G? That's what mine does. RCI (Canadian) XT1058.
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when i unlocked my razr m XT907 it was H+. but american carriers started marketing HSPA+ as 4G when verizon got LTE out here. so now its "accepted" than HSPA+ is "4G" in the US. like the iphone 4S people think is 4G here when it has no LTE. its not H+ on those phones either.
FYI anyone looking to buy a Claro Moto X, have no fear ordering a unit form Puerto Rico. Its a US territory, and shipping is done via USPS (unless its shipped fedex/usps). It will literally take only an extra day to get to you via Priority Mail. Usually like ordering something coming from HI or Alaska. Sometimes you even get it in the 2-3 day priority time frame.
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i got same moto x on claro P.R on the contract renewal for $200. only problem i have is google now doesnt work.the turn on swith on google menu/settings doesnt appear.i know where is supposed to be ,i have turn it on in the s4.can you check this for me on your phone how it goes.
Don't know what to say. My Google now runs fine. Set it up in the touchless control menu. Turn on touchless control. Maybe default is different on the american one
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i got same moto x on claro P.R on the contract renewal for $200. only problem i have is google now doesnt work.the turn on swith on google menu/settings doesnt appear.i know where is supposed to be ,i have turn it on in the s4.can you check this for me on your phone how it goes.
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Clear data and cache of the Google Search app.
Go to Settings > Apps - Swype over to All - Scroll down to Google Search and select it. Tap the buttons to for clearing data and cache.
I got mine again XT1058 but didn't tried yet with sim cards overseas can you confrim that is also working outside of US?
do the Claro/eBay unbranded Moto X's have LTE on AT&T? So essentially this is like buying a cheap dev unit?
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that would be a no at least there is no setting to turn it on in "my wallet". i'm guessing its carrier specific, and t-mobile isn't having it.
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If you open Wallet, go to Settings > About then look under Tap and Pay. Does it say "Not available"? If so, that's concerning.. I'm losing hope that the DE model will support it.
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do the Claro/eBay unbranded Moto X's have LTE on AT&T? So essentially this is like buying a cheap dev unit?
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It should... LTE works fine on t mobile..
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If you open Wallet, go to Settings > About then look under Tap and Pay. Does it say "Not available"? If so, that's concerning.. I'm losing hope that the DE model will support it.
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Yah it says not available. I'm sure its carrier Dependant more than phone Dependant
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Yah it says not available. I'm sure its carrier Dependant more than phone Dependant
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Drats. No, it's definitely hardware dependent. For example, a GT-I9300 can use Wallet just fine on AT&T while the SGH-I747 cannot. Wallet was the only reason I was considering trading my current Moto X in for a DE version. Guess once the GSM DE guys get their phones tomorrow, we'll know for sure.
Thanks for checking!
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Clear data and cache of the Google Search app.
Go to Settings > Apps - Swype over to All - Scroll down to Google Search and select it. Tap the buttons to for clearing data and cache.
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uninstall updates of google search and is running ok now.
kocua said:
thanks for the review, I too was thinking about buying from ebay. let us know how you get on with unlocking the bootleader :good:
edit: btw did you receive the camera update yet?
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just checked and requested my unlock code (so yes i just voided the warranty that i probably couldn't claim anyway since i dont live in the region this phone is normally for) and unlocked it.
anyway, i guess now i can try putting that camera update on here.
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just checked and requested my unlock code (so yes i just voided the warranty that i probably couldn't claim anyway since i dont live in the region this phone is normally for) and unlocked it.
anyway, i guess now i can try putting that camera update on here.
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hello, I got the same phone with you.
Can you tell me how to unlock my phone and get it rooted?
Someone said he also flashed t-mobile rom on it, do you have any clue?(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454975)
Google seems to not care about rest of the world with their devices, only the USA I guess.
I got myself a Nexus 7 2013 4G LTE from the USA to use here in Egypt and I've read numerous posts about it not supporting normal GSM phone calls with a lousy reason that it is a tablet not a phone. YEAH SURE, then why Samsung, Asus (own devices) and many others offer the functionality ?!
Anyways I said ok, I will use it only for Internet Data the realized even that is a pain to do.
Here in Egypt we use pre-paid SIM cards and that requires USSD functionality which Nexus 7 4G LTE lacks so every time I need to renew or charge my Data plan, I have to take the Nexus 7 out of the case, pop out the SIM card, pop it in my iPhone, renew/recharge, pop it out of phone and back into the Nexus 7. How convenient! .
Any way to fix that ?
I don't know about Egypt, but here in Australia, just about all PrePaid services can be recharged online. Instead of taking the SIM out, why not just use the one already in your iPhone, and recharge using the iPhone's browser?
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Google seems to not care about rest of the world with their devices, only the USA I guess.
I got myself a Nexus 7 2013 4G LTE from the USA to use here in Egypt and I've read numerous posts about it not supporting normal GSM phone calls with a lousy reason that it is a tablet not a phone. YEAH SURE, then why Samsung, Asus (own devices) and many others offer the functionality ?!
Anyways I said ok, I will use it only for Internet Data the realized even that is a pain to do.
Here in Egypt we use pre-paid SIM cards and that requires USSD functionality which Nexus 7 4G LTE lacks so every time I need to renew or charge my Data plan, I have to take the Nexus 7 out of the case, pop out the SIM card, pop it in my iPhone, renew/recharge, pop it out of phone and back into the Nexus 7. How convenient! .
Any way to fix that ?
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1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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Actually, all variants of the Nexus sold on the Australian Play Store as well as through various retailers. It's not a US exclusive.
iPWNtehNOOB said:
I don't know about Egypt, but here in Australia, just about all PrePaid services can be recharged online. Instead of taking the SIM out, why not just use the one already in your iPhone, and recharge using the iPhone's browser?
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I tried charging online but for some reason when the SIM is in the Nexus 7, it won't work so I have to put the SIM in my iPhone first for either online or USSD charging. I think it has something to do with some network requests that is blocked or can't function on the Nexus 7
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1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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1-As I mentioned, I am ok with it not having a phone functionality but at least they should've made it fully functional with mobile data
2-Actually I've also tried Nexus 7 LTE EU model (from the UK) and it has the exact same issue and the only difference is 4G LTE frequencies that are a little bit different but it is not a problem because we still don't have 4G LTE coverage here and H+ is fast enough for me.
Many people complain about the same thing in Google forums but no official response yet
sola fide said:
1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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I'm going to challenge (1).
The fact is that the chip they use for mobile data IS a full phone chip. You can use it for voice calls or data. Similarly, it can support up to 7 bands in LTE and HSPA+. So this isn't a choice not to include - it's a choice to BLOCK a feature. This is the same with SMS. Worse, the LTE bands for Canada are 4 and 7 but we don't get the EU model - which supports those - we get the US model which only supports 4. Worse, the US model only uses 6 of the 7 bands. They *could* have include 4 & 7 on the US model, but didn't. So Canada kind of got the worst of both worlds.
If Google simply didn't include a phone app and left it up to you to find one, I'd be ok with this. Like you say - it's a tablet and Goog wasn't marketing it AS a phone, so no foul. But they went further and not only removed the API in the OS to support phone service, they blocked the chip. That's going somewhat farther than 'we didn't intend for this to be used to as a phone' to 'we're not going let you use this as a phone in any way, ever.' they actually had to put in EFFORT to prevent you from using it as a phone.
Something similar happened with SMS. In 4.3, you can use SMS, it's just poorly supported. They chose not to include the Messaging app and only put in minimal SMS receiving software. Kind of stupid because a lot of PAYG services let you top up using a text message. Still, as we found out - if you get the Messaging app from the Nexus 5, bingo - you get send and receive SMS.
But in 4.4 - they actually *removed* API to make this trick not work. That's not a casual thing. It's intentional.
It's one thing not to put in a feature that's not required when it takes effort to *add* it - it's quite a different thing to *block* a feature that would be there if you did nothing.
The whole idea of the Nexus line was 'pure Android'. These are supposed to be the 'hero' models that show what you CAN do with pure Android and let developers do what they want. Yet clearly, Google is intentionally blocking certain functions that would be there otherwise.
And some of us (myself included) think that kinda sucks.
As a non-American, I'm also going to challenge (2) just a bit...
Google makes money from everyone... not just Americans. They intentionally sell their products around the world and collect data from non-Americans to use to generate revenue. Europe alone has almost 500M people - more than the US. China and India together is almost 1.5B people. Those are rather large markets.
Yet consistently, Google suffers from the same 'country blindness' that other US companies have. If you're going to sell a product outside the US, you have to be aware of, and take into consideration the differences. What makes this ironic is that OUTSIDE the US, there's a lot of standardisation. For example, all of Europe uses GSM and has 2100MHz as their primary HSPA+ frequency. This means phones work everywhere. They use DVB-T for digital TV everywhere. The US (and sadly, Canada since we get dragged along for the ride) insists on using different tech. So the biggest carrier uses the antiquated CDMA system and other carriers use the incompatible TDMA system in order to prevent customers moving between carriers. You use ATSC for digital TV which almost no one else uses.
Google Glass is US only. So is Wallet. And Voice. What makes Wallet so odd is that the US is actually way behind the curve with chip and pin and NFC based payment systems. If they actually skipped the US and focused on Europe and Canada, they'd get further faster and might even help encourage US retailers to accept the technology. What makes Voice so odd is that other US companies that don't have their heads up their.. ahems... can provide World-Wide VoIP at nearly free cost NOW. I use MagicJack on my Android tablet (you know - to make phone calls that you're not supposed to do because it's not a phone), yet while my American friends can call ME for free - I can't call them (well not using Google Voice anyway).
Are there alternative? Yep. But that doesn't justify or rationalise away Google's bizarre choices. That's like suggesting that it's ok that the main bridge in your city collapsed because there's another bridge on the west side of the city.
Anyone having a issue with the visual voicemail built into the phone app after the NPN25.137-93 update? I'm using retus 100% stock on MetroPCS, and not getting any voicemails. If I go into the phone settings>calls>voicemail, there is a switch to turn on voicemail, and it goes on when switched. But when you back out of it and go back into it, the switch is back off... i I hate using the MetroPCS VVM app. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
There is Visual Voice Mail built into the phone now? News to me...
acejavelin said:
There is Visual Voice Mail built into the phone now? News to me...
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There has always been. In the phone app, the 3 dots at the top left, settings, calls, voicemail
ice711 said:
There has always been. In the phone app, the 3 dots at the top left, settings, calls, voicemail
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I don't have that... Never have. On NPN25.137-93, bone stock.
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There is Visual Voice Mail built into the phone now? News to me...
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I don't have that...
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Interesting. What model do u have and carrier?
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Interesting. What model do u have and carrier?
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XT1687 4/64GB, Retail US variant. On AT&T
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XT1687 4/64GB, Retail US variant. On AT&T
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I have the same model but on MetroPCS... Gonna try a factory reset and see what happens. It did work up until last night
ice711 said:
I have the same model but on MetroPCS... Gonna try a factory reset and see what happens. It did work up until last night
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Must be carrier dependant. I don't have it on Straight Talk.
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riggerman0421 said:
Must be carrier dependant. I don't have it on Straight Talk.
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Maybe related to that "Carrier Services" app that keeps getting updated...
riggerman0421 said:
Must be carrier dependant. I don't have it on Straight Talk.
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And I don't have it on AT&T. Bought the phone unlocked.. there is no reason it should have any carrier apps on it. AT&T doesn't sell it.
I use Google voice for voicemail anyway.. Switched years ago cuz I didn't want to pay for the at&t app back in the day.
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And I don't have it on AT&T. Bought the phone unlocked.. there is no reason it should have any carrier apps on it. AT&T doesn't sell it.
I use Google voice for voicemail anyway.. Switched years ago cuz I didn't want to pay for the at&t app back in the day.
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The app in question is likely Carrier Services from Google, not from AT&T, it is part of Android... If the carrier wants 3rd party access to their VVM (or other things like VoLTE) they submit it to Google to have the services added to this file so they don't need their own custom app but use embedded Android features for their services. AT&T probably wants customers to use their app, and not use the feature build into Android, so they don't allow it in their service profile.
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The app in question is likely Carrier Services from Google, not from AT&T, it is part of Android... If the carrier wants 3rd party access to their VVM (or other things like VoLTE) they submit it to Google to have the services added to this file so they don't need their own custom app but use embedded Android features for their services. AT&T probably wants customers to use their app, and not use the feature build into Android, so they don't allow it in their service profile.
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Not sure why I don't have it then.
Like I said.. I'm on AT&T.
I'm guessing a different third party app is the culprit.
Maybe try installing the AT&T visual voicemail app. I strongly doubt this comes from carrier services.
Edit: sorry! I misunderstood. Yes.. this is what sprint does. Sprint definitely uses the carrier app to enable VV. I thought someone was saying it worked on AT&T.. my mistake
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Anyone have a fix on this? I have to go through the carrier visual voicemail app instead of Google Dialer. And if i disable that app, then voicemail goes through the old fashioned answering system.
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Must be carrier dependant. I don't have it on Straight Talk.
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Which network are you using with ST? They support the 4 nation wide networks in the US.