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I have a problem using application installed on miniSD. Everytime I open it, such us email client or IM, its run normally.
But, when i leave it running on background until device turn off automaticaly, the application exit when I wake it up.
Only appl installed on internal memory which keep run on background.
Is it because the exec standard ROM? or miniSD problem? or is it because something else?
Please help, since I dont want to waste my internal memory storage with installed appl..
thanx in advance
[BY]onicS said:
I have a problem using application installed on miniSD. Everytime I open it, such us email client or IM, its run normally.
But, when i leave it running on background until device turn off automaticaly, the application exit when I wake it up.
Only appl installed on internal memory which keep run on background.
Is it because the exec standard ROM? or miniSD problem? or is it because something else?
Please help, since I dont want to waste my internal memory storage with installed appl..
thanx in advance
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It's because when the device goes to sleep, it cuts power to the SD-slot(among other things), to save battery. Maybe you noticed that when you play a song in WMP from the card, then let the device sleep, then wake it up again, the song will have disappeared. Or that Spb Insight, when having the articles on the card, will say "No storage card inserted".
So to solve this problem, you have to do what you don't want to do: install any apps that must run continuosly into the internal storage.
Case closed, hope it helped...
mzalan said:
So to solve this problem, you have to do what you don't want to do: install any apps that must run continuosly into the internal storage.
Case closed, hope it helped...
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uhm, is it the universal standard activity? because when I used Blueangel this problem never happened?
there's any solution beside install on internal memory?
me too... non of this happend on my blue angel... huhuh~
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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1. Try another ROM-Are you still using the original rom it came with?
2. Make sure all you apps are closed - They usually just hide out open in the background.
3. Oxios Hibernate - I'm sure you can find a copy around here someplace. [Here ya go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374029]
4. Could be a memory leak. Certain programs have this effect on WM devices. {See 1.}
Also, remember that text messages take up room too. If you visit alot of websites, be sure to clear that also. I just cleared those 2 myself and I got like 5-6 MB free from just that.
clear temp storage even if it is on your card, it couldn't hurt. also delete keyboards that you installed unless you actually use them a lot because they take up a lot of room. move your ring tones to the SD card as they will still show up. update to the newest official ROM if you don't want to go to a custom, you'll get more memory with the new ROM but not much.
wyldstallyns2589 said:
...you'll get more memory with the new ROM but not much.
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That is very untrue. I rarely run out of memory with Just2Clean.
how is that untrue? i'm on the new stock rom and there is more available memory for storage and program than the stock rom i was on previously.
wyldstallyns2589 said:
how is that untrue? i'm on the new stock rom and there is more available memory for storage and program than the stock rom i was on previously.
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Sorry I misread your post but I thought you meant a new ROM in general not the Latest T-Mobile Update. Which is still way under performing compared to what the cooks generate here.
oh yeah, i had open tough 5.2 for like a day and it had so much more room after all my stuff was installed, it was insane, but it had some problems that i couldn't deal with so i went back to stock.
What sorta probs?
I found that most of/all the default apps on the Wing are total crap. I use very few applications. I just get my email, browse with opera mini, play solitaire, and listen to mp3's. Any more than that I expect the device to have issues to a degree. It only has a 201mhz processor it can't be expected to do much more.
it would scroll through lists randomly which was pretty annoying. you can't use jivetalk (now beejiveIM) on it. and there were issues with the original dialpad such as being damn ugly, fixed it with a skin but then it does it's scrolling thing when i'm trying to dial a number and then won't let me hit anymore numbers and i have to go out of the dialpad and go back in.
LesiRockGoddess said:
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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slow down, take a breath....
what rom are you running ???
try installing the cab file for moving IE storage to Storage Card.
on your messages settings save all attatchments to storage card.
there is a solution but you have to let us know whats going on!!!!
robpet2, i happened to stumble on the cab link you have, 'plenty of cabs'. Is there a way to get a quick explaination of some of theme? or possible screen shots? thanks
wookalicious said:
robpet2, i happened to stumble on the cab link you have, 'plenty of cabs'. Is there a way to get a quick explaination of some of theme? or possible screen shots? thanks
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haha... thats a good one.. cant do screenshots for all of them, just type in the name of the cab file in google with .cab at the end and do a search, they should all come up with descriptions.
I don't know what ROM I'm runnin. I don't even know what a ROM is. I look around these forums but no one explains, they just say use xyz cab. *shrugs* I'm totally lost
a rom is essentially the operating system that you use on your phone.
If you don't know what rom you're using, you're probably using the T-Mobile stock rom. We highly recommend flashing a custom rom from that POS.
To do that, you will need to use USPL or you will need to HardSPL your phone. Bear in mind that T-Mobile won't help you if they find a custom rom on your phone, but you can just flash back to the original before sending it in.
Read the USPL and HardSPL threads before taking any action
Thanx, Fzzym. You've given me somewhere to begin
LesiRockGoddess said:
Thanx, Fzzym. You've given me somewhere to begin
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and on your storage memory issue...delete your old mail and text/picture messages then empty your email and text and mms deleted items. also google maps installs and stores its cache in storage memory even if you tell it to install on your card. those are the 2 biggest apps that eat away at my storage memory, although with the open touch 4 lite rom, i usually have 21mb free.
LesiRockGoddess said:
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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It seems to me that you are experiencing the memory issues that every new T-Mobile Wing is faced with. It has to do with the default Page Pool size.
The easiest way around this problem is to do an upgrade of the new T-mobile software. You can find this at:
http://member.htc.com/RuuDownload/T-mobileUS/Filedownload.aspx?pid=wing
or you can change the pagepool size manually following the instructions at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263
Good Luck
My phones lately been acting funny
programs have been fore closing and its been laggy and idk why i did put any new apps..
dont know what iv did different i never did anything i have dxtop but it never did anything before
my phones moded and rooted and all the other stuff JF released
If you have a lot of apps or if you're running low on internal phone memory, it would cause your phone to lag. There is also a couple more reasons, I just can't think of em at the moment. =/
You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
tanner2007 said:
And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
Oh yeah, Imeem will run in the background indefenately as well.
borodin1 said:
Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
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Well got rid of phone book and my backup since i can always back up my full system
and I already have advance task manager and i can close all the applicatiosn running but not proccess or services with that said I always have close everything app and run that once in a while
I noticed that with dxtop(trial) that every time I went to the home screen, either by hitting home button or backing out of an app, there was a lot of lag. And this is before the little countdown timer the trial has in it.
Uninstalled and am in the process of trying out the other two home replacement apps. Dont have that problem with them. If you are still having issues might try unistalling dxtop.
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
borodin1 said:
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
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I have not heard this..where and how?
kay11224 said:
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
tanner2007 said:
I have not heard this..where and how?
Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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1) Anyone?
2) would anyone happen to know which home alternative uses more memory?
dxTop
http://dxtop.wikidot.com/
or
Open Home Lite
http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/
(scroll down to second post)
My storage memory keeps dropping, seems like something is using it up because if I leave it overnight it chews up all my onboard storage memory and it gives me a warning in the morning but when I do a soft reset it all comes back. This happened yesterday so I hard resetted my phone and did a full backup dated March 15th 2009. Now its still using up my onboard storage memory automatically it went through 5 megs now in a matter of 15 mins. Can someone help pls? Do I need to do another hard reset and install each program one by one to see which one is causing this?
1') Are you using a custom ROM?
1'') In order to see which process is using up your storage memory i suggest downloading the SKTools trial and launching the processes util. It displays the CPU time, memory and heap usage...etc. This might give you a hint of whose eating up your storage space.
2) Were you using tools like Advanced Config Tool?
stormlv said:
1') Are you using a custom ROM?
1'') In order to see which process is using up your storage memory i suggest downloading the SKTools trial and launching the processes util. It displays the CPU time, memory and heap usage...etc. This might give you a hint of whose eating up your storage space.
2) Were you using tools like Advanced Config Tool?
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I'm using the stock R1A rom
Yes I have Advanced config Tool but wasn't using the program at the time could this program cause the issue?
The X1 already has a better task manager than the one in settings. If you go to the Windows folder in the file explorer and find the tskmngr.exe, you can view all programs running and processes. No need to download anything. I'd use that to take a look. Installing another program seems like it might just exacerbate the problem.
If you wasn't using the tool before these symptoms first appeared then its not the tool.
Could you go here http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_downloads.html#sktools and download the trial in order to see the processes that are active on your phone?
I also think there was a free tool called Advanced Task Manager, but I don't remember if it displays the memory usage.
Xuanlong said:
The X1 already has a better task manager than the one in settings. If you go to the Windows folder in the file explorer and find the tskmngr.exe, you can view all programs running and processes. No need to download anything. I'd use that to take a look. Installing another program seems like it might just exacerbate the problem.
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Yes, but unlike the normal task manager he can use the other tools to see which services are started, what programs launch at start up and it has a registry optimizer and a memory cleaner.
And the X1 task manager WON'T show the hidden processes already running on the device.
I think installing one more program won't do more harm than already done.
ok I just installed SKTools v4.4.7.1 how do I find programs that are using up my rom?
1) Use the "CPU Usage" tool to see which processes are actively consuming cpu time. You should have around 18 processes there
2) For those processes that use, say, more than 0.5% use the "Processes" tool to see the amount of memory it consumes.
You could use the other tools to clean the registry, etc while you're at it.
SkTools also has a "Optimize tool" You could select Maximum Memory and see if it still bugs (you can always revert to the default settings if you don't like the performance).
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1) Use the "CPU Usage" tool to see which processes are actively consuming cpu time. You should have around 18 processes there
2) For those processes that use, say, more than 0.5% use the "Processes" tool to see the amount of memory it consumes.
You could use the other tools to clean the registry, etc while you're at it.
SkTools also has a "Optimize tool" You could select Maximum Memory and see if it still bugs (you can always revert to the default settings if you don't like the performance).
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Thx for the help, i've looked at the processes and looked them up on google and nothing out of the norm. I also used to optimize tool and it runs a bit quicker, so far i'm not losing any storage memory but i will find out tomorrow morning. I'll update when I get home from work tomorrow.
I just lost another 7megs from my storage memory and I didnt even download a thing. man this sucks.
This is beginning to bug me as well
Use the Clean! tool. When it finishes analyzing, go and check the files/folders it displays one by one. Do you notice some files or folders that have an abnormally large size? Most should be under 1mb (except maybe the GoogleMaps cache)
If that doesn't reveal a clue...I'm left clueless Maybe hardreset/update your ROM?
Here's an update,
Last night when I installed SKTOOLS I enabled freeUP RAM service and also Shadow cleaner in the shadow services. So again when I went to sleep I had my rom at 107MB's after I deleted a few pictures that came with the rom. This morning when I woke up I had the same pop-up, clicked on the icon at the top right hand corner and it said 0.2MB's then I guess the shawdow cleaner kicked in and my MB's started to change at a very fast pace it went back up to 107MB's within 3 seconds. I will see if it does the same thing when I wake up tomorrow. But that was really weird this morning I have never seen anything like that before.
Did u check as I said with the help of the "Clean!" tool to see if there are junk/temporary files or folders that have an abnormal large size?
My suggestion is disabling the Shadow Cleaner for now, then when you start running low on space again, use the Clean tool to see which temp files are big...that will immediately tell you which program is bugging...
Ok so from catgories I clicked on cleanup then clicked on temp and junk files is that what you want me to go in when all my rom is used up?
I just lost 2 megs
I went into SKtools and it says
Temp folder 2
\Application Data\Volatile
If you do a horizontal scroll in that tool (Clean!) you have a tab where you see the size of the Temp/Junk files and folders. What folder has a big size? Is it the Temp2 (because for me thats the RamDisk)
I have SPB insight installed on my today screen here's a screen shot,
So I think I found the problem, it might be SPB insight... here's a german forum translated into english using google language tools
http://translate.google.ca/translat...data-volatile.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
He says in a short time he accumulates 30-40 megs...
Damn...
So did uninstalling spb Insight solve your problem?
Like your screen setup btw
I didnt uninstall insight... I just removed it from my today plug in then I went into the program to remove all data and set it only to manual update.
I lost another 2 megs so 4 in total in the last little while, its all IMGxxxx.tmp in my \Application Data\Volatile folder. I'll leave my insight turned off for now to see if I keep losing storage memory.
XperiaX1a said:
My storage memory keeps dropping, seems like something is using it up because if I leave it overnight it chews up all my onboard storage memory and it gives me a warning in the morning but when I do a soft reset it all comes back. This happened yesterday so I hard resetted my phone and did a full backup dated March 15th 2009. Now its still using up my onboard storage memory automatically it went through 5 megs now in a matter of 15 mins. Can someone help pls? Do I need to do another hard reset and install each program one by one to see which one is causing this?
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You are sleep uploading files...
poetryrocksalot said:
You are sleep uploading files...
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That was a helpful comment
I am receiving the current message on my hd2 and would like to know how i can repair the problem as it keeps popping up on the screen all the time
'Storage memory is critically low. If the storage memory is not increased, other programs may not be able to start. Use File Explorer to delete files that are no longer needed or move some files to a storage card'
Any advice please?
Simple advice- you've got too much installed or saved to internal memory rather than the storage card.
Common culprits are browser caches for PIE and Opera, the HTC Album cache, media files like videos, music and pictures etc.
Use File Explorer to look in all the sub folders of My Documents as a starting point. Try moving all the big files over the the storage card.
Download Treeview from Microsoft Marketplace- it's free and can show you where all the storage memory is going.
should i do this through the phone direct or the pc?
khush10 said:
should i do this through the phone direct or the pc?
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You can do either- as long as you connect using ActiveSync rather than Disk Drive mode.
Using the PC is probably a slightly easier experience as Windows Explorer is more informative than the mobile version!
NeilM said:
Download Treeview from Microsoft Marketplace- it's free and can show you where all the storage memory is going.
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no such app
i cannot get marketplace to work, it says that theres no data connection detected, but its on and my wi-fi is on too?
So i keep on retrying but still no joy!
...Read the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578
...I use a program for clean memory: SKTOOLS and it works ok
...there are other programs like cleanram...but i haven´t experience with them
...good luck
to be honest, i did not think i will have to go through all this, i thought that the phone would have been more simple to use rather than the link suggested, install this and edit that, i would have thought that the phone would already be setup correctly, instead my phone has become another job itself!
khush10 said:
to be honest, i did not think i will have to go through all this, i thought that the phone would have been more simple to use rather than the link suggested, install this and edit that, i would have thought that the phone would already be setup correctly, instead my phone has become another job itself!
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile
khush10 said:
to be honest, i did not think i will have to go through all this, i thought that the phone would have been more simple to use rather than the link suggested, install this and edit that, i would have thought that the phone would already be setup correctly, instead my phone has become another job itself!
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You don't have to do all that. It works great out of the box as well. Those are just possibilities, to customize it and tweak it.
Uninstall everything you have installed on your phone and reinstall it to the storage card. Always install applications to the storage card. That should fix your 'problem'.
Additionally, open the File Explorer, go to \Windows and delete the folder YouTube. That gives you additional free space but the folder comes back when you watch YouTube videos, so you can do this from time to time.
can i drag and drop my applications folder into the storage card via the pc?
Yes, but then the links in the start menu won't work anymore. Think of what happens when you move the Program Files folder on your PC. It's the same here.
can someone give me a step by step guide for doing this task please.
Go to Settings, Manage Applications, Uninstall Applications. There, uninstall all the applications you have installed to teh main memory.
Then reinstall them, this time to the storage card.
And delete the YouTube cache from time to time.
When we're speaking of free storage memory, how much memory do you all have free?
Mine is around 20 mb, is it to small?
Beacuse when i watched a video on youtube i got the same message as in the first post.
freyberry said:
Go to Settings, Manage Applications, Uninstall Applications. There, uninstall all the applications you have installed to teh main memory.
Then reinstall them, this time to the storage card.
And delete the YouTube cache from time to time.
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All i have in the remove programs section is 'MarketPlace' and no other applications?
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All i have in the remove programs section is 'MarketPlace' and no other applications?
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As I suggested in the earlier post, this is nothing to do with installed programs- most of those are pretty small and are unlikely to be grabbing the majority of your memory.
It is most likely that you have allowed some large files to be stored in the main memory. By default the phone DOES store most big user files like photos and videos on a storage card, but perhaps that has been altered somewhere?
You need to use a file finding utility to sort this- if Treesize is not available in your locality via Marketplace (or you can't access Marketplace) then you can try Spacefinder, a tiny, free program that will sort your files and folders in order of size, giving a hint as to where the memory may have gone. You can also download Treesize Mobile direct from Jam Software
Stuff like CleanRAM, SKTools etc is OK for clearing RAM but has no effect on Storage Memory apart from clearing some caches, though this can help a lot.
One other tip- as has been suggested, try and install programs onto a storage card, but not if they are system programs like Today plug-ins or keyboards etc. These must go into device memory otherwise you may get some startup errors.
This baffles me. I have just got an HD2 to replace my HD - I started to put exactly the same programs onto the HD2 as I had previously installed on my HD (I install all programs on the device). I got the low memory warning long before I put all the programmes on - on a brand new device with no internet browsing/video/music on device itself.
My HD has more memory than my HD2 - how is that possible?
None of these explanations seem to explain how this happens on my HD2 but not my old HD. I have NEVER had a low memory warning on my HD despite having used it for over a year and having installed more on it than I have managed on the HD2.
I have recently found the pre-installed Google Maps created a cache folder in device memory and pumped it up to 25 Megs. Deleted it of course.
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This baffles me. I have just got an HD2 to replace my HD - I started to put exactly the same programs onto the HD2 as I had previously installed on my HD (I install all programs on the device). I got the low memory warning long before I put all the programmes on - on a brand new device with no internet browsing/video/music on device itself.
My HD has more memory than my HD2 - how is that possible?
None of these explanations seem to explain how this happens on my HD2 but not my old HD. I have NEVER had a low memory warning on my HD despite having used it for over a year and having installed more on it than I have managed on the HD2.
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The HD2 has more memory (ROM) but a huge chunk (150MB) is taken up by all the HTC Sense gubbins, leaving a relatively smaller amount free to the user. Ultra light cooked ROMs give about 150MB more ROM, and light ROMs about 100MB more than the default ROM.
It also seems that a lot of caching is going on- Album, Googlemaps, Browsers etc eating up ROM.