I have a problem using application installed on miniSD. Everytime I open it, such us email client or IM, its run normally.
But, when i leave it running on background until device turn off automaticaly, the application exit when I wake it up.
Only appl installed on internal memory which keep run on background.
Is it because the exec standard ROM? or miniSD problem? or is it because something else?
Please help, since I dont want to waste my internal memory storage with installed appl..
thanx in advance
[BY]onicS said:
I have a problem using application installed on miniSD. Everytime I open it, such us email client or IM, its run normally.
But, when i leave it running on background until device turn off automaticaly, the application exit when I wake it up.
Only appl installed on internal memory which keep run on background.
Is it because the exec standard ROM? or miniSD problem? or is it because something else?
Please help, since I dont want to waste my internal memory storage with installed appl..
thanx in advance
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It's because when the device goes to sleep, it cuts power to the SD-slot(among other things), to save battery. Maybe you noticed that when you play a song in WMP from the card, then let the device sleep, then wake it up again, the song will have disappeared. Or that Spb Insight, when having the articles on the card, will say "No storage card inserted".
So to solve this problem, you have to do what you don't want to do: install any apps that must run continuosly into the internal storage.
Case closed, hope it helped...
mzalan said:
So to solve this problem, you have to do what you don't want to do: install any apps that must run continuosly into the internal storage.
Case closed, hope it helped...
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uhm, is it the universal standard activity? because when I used Blueangel this problem never happened?
there's any solution beside install on internal memory?
me too... non of this happend on my blue angel... huhuh~
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After a soft reset, my phone hits me with an error dialog saying that voice command cannot be found etc etc. The reason for this is because the storage card hasn't been read yet. I'm curious to find out if there is a way to put in a delay so that the storage card has time to load, if not even a way to remove that annoying nag screen will do just fine.
Anyone have any ideas?
Install voice command to main memory, not to storage card.
bamse said:
Install voice command to main memory, not to storage card.
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Thanks but that's just a workaround... I don't really want to do that because it's not just voice command, there are other apps that will make this happen as well.
Not all applications will respond well to being installed to the storage card.
I think I remember reading somewhere that you could change the order of the shorcuts in the startup folder as a workaround. Haven't tried it myself, though.
I got it. Used a program called SKTools to change the order and now it's perfect. No more nag screen!
how to make storage big space? although installed in SD memory, storage memory always low.
This could be a result of the number of programs you have running in the background. Check your Running Programs and see if you have lots of unnecessary programs using up your memory.
Still happened
Xilicon said:
This could be a result of the number of programs you have running in the background. Check your Running Programs and see if you have lots of unnecessary programs using up your memory.
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the problem is when ever I installed program, I never installed to phone memory. I only installed into my SD Card.
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hartunnoo said:
the problem is when ever I installed program, I never installed to phone memory. I only installed into my SD Card.
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It doesn't matter where you are installing them; if you have them running in the background they still need memory
Just check your running programs. On a desktop PC when you minimize a program they go into your taskbar, but in Pocket PC they just hide themselves in the background. Its a common misconception that the "x" in the upper right hand corner of the screen closes the program; all it does it minimizes it. Or atleast most of them, some programs a actually very well designed and actually "close". At any case, use the "running programs" utility that came standard with your Magician to see how many programs you have running - it's actually quite amazing what you'll find.
I have a similar problem but mine starts at 20mb free after soft reset but after each sync (disconnect and reconnect) it drops by about 6mb until it reaches 7 or 8mb and stays there until I soft reset again?
I am not aware of any invoked programs that eat up memory when I sync and I have very little data in my sync files folder?
Suggestions welcome (except hard reset!!).
Thanks,
OB.
obarnes, That true. why after soft reset it used more memory. supposed to be free more memory.
Activesync eats up memory everytime you hook it up. That memory does not get freed up. Approx 3MB gets blocked away for every sync you do - so if you start of with 20 and you sync up 3 or 4 times then you're memory will slowly start to dissapear. This is a common occurence, the only thing I could suggest is to soft-reset 2-3 times a day. Additionally there are programs that can eliminate tiny chunks of memory being used up by duplicate processes that occur when you soft-reset your machine, they don't really effect your device; but every byte helps. The program is by Scarybear and it's called notifyclear (or something like that). I've recently did a maintenance on my device and managed to clear up almost 10MB just by moving unnecessary files and clearing up the registry and redundant junk from the machine. Hope this helps.
Obarnes,
The "memory leak" could be due to a program you have installed also. I used to face the problem because of Battery Pack Pro v.2 and havent faced a "memory leak" since I uninstalled it.
To date I have had the following problems with shortcuts to exe files located on my 1GB Storage Card:
1) Every time I switch on the device, Skype reports that it cannot load the Skype.exe file on the Storage Card, a shortcut of which is in the Startup folder
2) Every reboot, GSPMagic cannot load itself from Startup. If however I delete the shortcut, then create a new one manually in the Starup folder, it works fine! I have checked the old shortcut and it is exactly the same as the new one! They are identical, yet one says that the source file cannot be found.
3) Microsoft Money installed a shortcut in Programs. The shortcut had no icon, and again said the file was not found or needed to be reinstalled. Yet when I created the shortcut manually into Programs, and overwrote the shortcut setup created, it worked fine.
What on earth is going on, and has anyone experienced something similar?
Most other program shortcuts to the Storage Card work fine strangely!
I was under the impression that anything called at startup had to be installed in main memory.
GSPMagic did not work for me on the storage card, but once in main memory was fine.
Can anyone confirm this?
So I have to install Skype on the Device not Storage Card? I don't think the setup instructions said this :?
Glad to hear you're using GSPM++, it means that mackaby07 and I have helped some people!
I too have had trouble when loading this on the memory card, but in the main memory it's fine, and it doesn't take up enough space to worry about either!
Haven't noticed any real speed increase with that lil prog, just testing it at the moment.
However, what about my issues with Skype, and MS Money, both loading from the Storage Card. Surely they shouldn't cause a problem? Weird one this.
CJSnet - at least on the Magician, storage card shortcuts aren't always ready to be run from softreset, it seems like it takes a few seconds after boot for the storage card to be ready to use (so much OS kerchunking going on in the background perhaps). So it's as if the storage card isn't inserted at that point, so they don't launch.
I'll be trying to write a small fix for this at some point...
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Great, please do post it back here when you have!
In the meantime any way to fix for example Skype insisting on running every time I wake the device out of standby? It doesn't appear in the Startup group so must be somewhere else, and if on the Storage Card, it won't run -- I get the same error.
4) Microsoft Reader again installs an icon in Programs, but when clicked I get the same error as all the above.
This is therefore not a Startup lag issue.
The exact error is:
"The file 'msreader' [for example] cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file".
Help!
Hehe talking to myself here, but hmm, this is odd, I just tried recreating the MS Reader shortcut.
Original from Setup: 19#\Windows\msreader.exe (<-path does not exist)
Manually created by me: 36#"\Storage Card\Windows\MsReader.exe"
Why is Setup, when I tell it to install Reader on the Storage Card, creating a shortcut that does not mention the Storage Card, and therefore cannot possibly work? This must be the issue with the other items.
CJSnet said:
Original from Setup: 19#\Windows\msreader.exe (<-path does not exist)
Manually created by me: 36#"\Storage Card\Windows\MsReader.exe"
Why is Setup, when I tell it to install Reader on the Storage Card, creating a shortcut that does not mention the Storage Card, and therefore cannot possibly work? This must be the issue with the other items.
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This is driving me mad? Why does it make every shortcut to a prog on Storage Card leave out the 'Storage Card' part of the path? Any help greatly appreciated. Maybe a reg entry? :?
vijay555 said:
... storage card shortcuts aren't always ready to be run from softreset ... I'll be trying to write a small fix for this at some point...
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Hi Vijay, any news on this handy sounding app?
I am still getting this problem, and not just after boot.
Why is it, whenever I turn the device on from standby power-save mode, I get an error with Skype saying it can't find itself on the Storage Card?
Why is Skype trying to load something when I come out of standby sometimes, but not always?
what will give you better performance ?
and what (if any) applications SHOULD be installed to the Device rather then the Memory Card.
I have a lot of programs installed on my memory card and the performance in terms of speed seem to be exactly the same.
I tried installing SPB pocket plus on my memory card once and it told me that the driver for the memory card may load after the program has loaded, which means that program wouldn't work properly. Because of this, I generally load all programs that are going to run at startup on my phone memory, but maybe someone else can provide insight into whether or not startup programs on your memory card actually pose a problem.
sorry to raise this thread again but does anyone know the answer ?
I have an important App that gets lost every time my Hima battery goes flat . Could I install and run the app from the SD card?
Its not an app that needs to start with the device startup
Yeah, you can install it to your card. The only programs that generally HAVE to be installed to your device itself are things like today screen plugins, and SPB programs as said above. Most everything else will work just as fast and reliably from the memory card.
ashasaur said:
Yeah, you can install it to your card. The only programs that generally HAVE to be installed to your device itself are things like today screen plugins, and SPB programs as said above. Most everything else will work just as fast and reliably from the memory card.
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What he (She?) said.
/Nuff said.
I am receiving the current message on my hd2 and would like to know how i can repair the problem as it keeps popping up on the screen all the time
'Storage memory is critically low. If the storage memory is not increased, other programs may not be able to start. Use File Explorer to delete files that are no longer needed or move some files to a storage card'
Any advice please?
Simple advice- you've got too much installed or saved to internal memory rather than the storage card.
Common culprits are browser caches for PIE and Opera, the HTC Album cache, media files like videos, music and pictures etc.
Use File Explorer to look in all the sub folders of My Documents as a starting point. Try moving all the big files over the the storage card.
Download Treeview from Microsoft Marketplace- it's free and can show you where all the storage memory is going.
should i do this through the phone direct or the pc?
khush10 said:
should i do this through the phone direct or the pc?
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You can do either- as long as you connect using ActiveSync rather than Disk Drive mode.
Using the PC is probably a slightly easier experience as Windows Explorer is more informative than the mobile version!
NeilM said:
Download Treeview from Microsoft Marketplace- it's free and can show you where all the storage memory is going.
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no such app
i cannot get marketplace to work, it says that theres no data connection detected, but its on and my wi-fi is on too?
So i keep on retrying but still no joy!
...Read the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578
...I use a program for clean memory: SKTOOLS and it works ok
...there are other programs like cleanram...but i haven´t experience with them
...good luck
to be honest, i did not think i will have to go through all this, i thought that the phone would have been more simple to use rather than the link suggested, install this and edit that, i would have thought that the phone would already be setup correctly, instead my phone has become another job itself!
khush10 said:
to be honest, i did not think i will have to go through all this, i thought that the phone would have been more simple to use rather than the link suggested, install this and edit that, i would have thought that the phone would already be setup correctly, instead my phone has become another job itself!
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile
khush10 said:
to be honest, i did not think i will have to go through all this, i thought that the phone would have been more simple to use rather than the link suggested, install this and edit that, i would have thought that the phone would already be setup correctly, instead my phone has become another job itself!
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You don't have to do all that. It works great out of the box as well. Those are just possibilities, to customize it and tweak it.
Uninstall everything you have installed on your phone and reinstall it to the storage card. Always install applications to the storage card. That should fix your 'problem'.
Additionally, open the File Explorer, go to \Windows and delete the folder YouTube. That gives you additional free space but the folder comes back when you watch YouTube videos, so you can do this from time to time.
can i drag and drop my applications folder into the storage card via the pc?
Yes, but then the links in the start menu won't work anymore. Think of what happens when you move the Program Files folder on your PC. It's the same here.
can someone give me a step by step guide for doing this task please.
Go to Settings, Manage Applications, Uninstall Applications. There, uninstall all the applications you have installed to teh main memory.
Then reinstall them, this time to the storage card.
And delete the YouTube cache from time to time.
When we're speaking of free storage memory, how much memory do you all have free?
Mine is around 20 mb, is it to small?
Beacuse when i watched a video on youtube i got the same message as in the first post.
freyberry said:
Go to Settings, Manage Applications, Uninstall Applications. There, uninstall all the applications you have installed to teh main memory.
Then reinstall them, this time to the storage card.
And delete the YouTube cache from time to time.
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All i have in the remove programs section is 'MarketPlace' and no other applications?
khush10 said:
All i have in the remove programs section is 'MarketPlace' and no other applications?
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As I suggested in the earlier post, this is nothing to do with installed programs- most of those are pretty small and are unlikely to be grabbing the majority of your memory.
It is most likely that you have allowed some large files to be stored in the main memory. By default the phone DOES store most big user files like photos and videos on a storage card, but perhaps that has been altered somewhere?
You need to use a file finding utility to sort this- if Treesize is not available in your locality via Marketplace (or you can't access Marketplace) then you can try Spacefinder, a tiny, free program that will sort your files and folders in order of size, giving a hint as to where the memory may have gone. You can also download Treesize Mobile direct from Jam Software
Stuff like CleanRAM, SKTools etc is OK for clearing RAM but has no effect on Storage Memory apart from clearing some caches, though this can help a lot.
One other tip- as has been suggested, try and install programs onto a storage card, but not if they are system programs like Today plug-ins or keyboards etc. These must go into device memory otherwise you may get some startup errors.
This baffles me. I have just got an HD2 to replace my HD - I started to put exactly the same programs onto the HD2 as I had previously installed on my HD (I install all programs on the device). I got the low memory warning long before I put all the programmes on - on a brand new device with no internet browsing/video/music on device itself.
My HD has more memory than my HD2 - how is that possible?
None of these explanations seem to explain how this happens on my HD2 but not my old HD. I have NEVER had a low memory warning on my HD despite having used it for over a year and having installed more on it than I have managed on the HD2.
I have recently found the pre-installed Google Maps created a cache folder in device memory and pumped it up to 25 Megs. Deleted it of course.
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This baffles me. I have just got an HD2 to replace my HD - I started to put exactly the same programs onto the HD2 as I had previously installed on my HD (I install all programs on the device). I got the low memory warning long before I put all the programmes on - on a brand new device with no internet browsing/video/music on device itself.
My HD has more memory than my HD2 - how is that possible?
None of these explanations seem to explain how this happens on my HD2 but not my old HD. I have NEVER had a low memory warning on my HD despite having used it for over a year and having installed more on it than I have managed on the HD2.
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The HD2 has more memory (ROM) but a huge chunk (150MB) is taken up by all the HTC Sense gubbins, leaving a relatively smaller amount free to the user. Ultra light cooked ROMs give about 150MB more ROM, and light ROMs about 100MB more than the default ROM.
It also seems that a lot of caching is going on- Album, Googlemaps, Browsers etc eating up ROM.