Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Verizon Wireless phone (the Eris) is actually their HTC Hero.
They claim it's a seperate model (HTC Desire.) Either way I was curious what was needed to get ROMs going for it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
hobbiteer said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Verizon Wireless phone (the Eris) is actually their HTC Hero.
They claim it's a seperate model (HTC Desire.) Either way I was curious what was needed to get ROMs going for it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I may be out of date, but I thought the Eris wasn't rooted yet (which is is a prereq for getting ROM's installed on it).
The Eris, Cellular South, and most other versions of the phone had patched the vulnerability that Sprint had left in the phone and so it's not quite as easy currently.
It hasn't been rooted yet, and there is little to no enthusiasm to get it rooted. It may be a while before we get those custom Roms.
Well that's kinda sad. Is there any particular reason? I mean I don't own one but I am just curious. Is it just that its not seen as a demand for it or something like that?
Exactly, all just a numbers game. The vzw Eris will get rooted someday though, it might even be by you
It's a combination of lack of enthusiastic developers and the fact that the asroot2 exploit that works for the Sprint Hero has been patched. So... Haha. I have one and I've been desperately looking around for a way to root. I don't think enough people are buying it to generate enough enthusiasm to get people to really want to develop
tstack77 said:
Exactly, all just a numbers game. The vzw Eris will get rooted someday though, it might even be by you
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Yep. may also help if I owned one. I still use my trusty awesome G1 and see no real reason to change. But I was debating "fixing" the eris. However I have quite a bit to learn in order to do so. And with the upcoming software patch for it I may want to wait. But thank you for clarifing. I really do appreciate it. If others would like it or like help with it I figure I am more than willing to go at it.
Videofolife13 said:
It's a combination of lack of enthusiastic developers and the fact that the asroot2 exploit that works for the Sprint Hero has been patched. So... Haha. I have one and I've been desperately looking around for a way to root. I don't think enough people are buying it to generate enough enthusiasm to get people to really want to develop
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Yeah I could see that. As the Eris is up against the Moto Sholes I can see why not many people are. Getting one.
Actually, I've read that more people are buying the Droid Eris. They'll come in wanting the Droid and leave with the Eris.
Well it's partly a numbers game but it's partly a "starting from ground zero" timeframe thing. GSM Heros were the first out and they took a certain amount of time to become rooted...then came the CDMA Heros who needed a different way to root and it took a few weeks to get to there as well.
So...while it may or may not take longer, it will probably be around the same amount of time from release-ish before something shows up (or we get lucky with a new shiney kernel exploit to elevate priviledges...)
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So...while it may or may not take longer, it will probably be around the same amount of time from release-ish before something shows up (or we get lucky with a new shiney kernel exploit to elevate priviledges...)
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I disagree. We could be sitting for a while before anything happens. No known exploits, I don't think many people who would develop are rushing out to get one. It'll happen eventually, but it in my opinion, we'll be sitting tight for a while. Not that any of us can complain if we can't find one ourselves, haha.
What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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Yeah I could see that. As the Eris is up against the Moto Sholes I can see why not many people are. Getting one.
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I've been reading the Howard Forums and getting the impression that folks are more impressed with the Eris as opposed to the boxy and un-sexy Driod. I knew I was buying the Droid Eris before I called VZW. I am just GLAD to finally be rid of T-Mo after 7 years of service. While they were good for a while, their customer service started to really piss me off lately. There's also the fact that they really didn't train their PDA reps on Android before they released the phones. And the lack of 3G in most of the country was a killer! Now, if someone would like to root this bad boy. I would be most grateful.
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What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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Even if it did work, then you have you'd have the Sprint Rom, not the Verizon Rom. Not sure if it's a good idea or not...
chicojd said:
Now, if someone would like to root this bad boy. I would be most grateful.
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Haha. You and me both. If you're really interested, look around and see if you can help the cause.
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What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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I would try it if someone has the stock VZW ruu to flash back to in case it does not work.
Is there anyway to get the RUU? I mean, what are the logistics involved there?
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Is there anyway to get the RUU? I mean, what are the logistics involved there?
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It's up to VZW or HTC to post it, unless someone on the inside leaks a copy for us.... hint hint... anyone have a copy they want to share with us?
just wondering. I have a sprint hero. but you VZW people shouldn't wait too long, cause i think the droid has the same kernel version as the eris, so when they find an exploit in the droid, to get root you VZW people should be able to use the same exploit. now if the droid's bootloader gets hacked then yeah, you'll probably have to wait.
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It's up to VZW or HTC to post it, unless someone on the inside leaks a copy for us.... hint hint... anyone have a copy they want to share with us?
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Haha. Wishful thinking, but I'm right there with you. I can't believe they patched the asroot2 exploit.
Ive been flashing my htc phones for a long time now, but im new to android and the rooting process... Im trying to learn more and help with the Eris if possible, but I have a simple question. Is the only way to root the Eris, to get the original RUU?
I have the Eris now, and if I can do anything else I would be willing to do so!
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I have the Rogers HTC Dream and I got it on the day it came out. I absolutely love it.
The reason for this thread is for me, as an absolute n00b to this whole flashing ROMs and technical stuff, to ask you geniuses: how can I possibly get the Hero ROM onto my phone? I really, REALLY want it. Also, if it is possible, can you please guide me to the guide that lays out the step-by-step process please?
Thanks a whole lot.
No custom roms work on the rogers dream -- yet.
Root your phone, enable paid apps, purchase open home, get the hero skin and that should tide you over until someone figures this mess out.
I am a little disappointed by the stagnation of work being done on the rogers dream. Root is great, but it hasnt realized its full potential. Can any other dev gurus HELP?
I know. I need to know as soon as possible. The Hero ROM is driving me crazy...
i<3andr0id said:
No custom roms work on the rogers dream -- yet.
Root your phone, enable paid apps, purchase open home, get the hero skin and that should tide you over until someone figures this mess out.
I am a little disappointed by the stagnation of work being done on the rogers dream. Root is great, but it hasnt realized its full potential. Can any other dev gurus HELP?
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I agree, I am really surprised that nothing has really happened with the rogers dream. Maybe Haykuro is silently working on it...
Let's hope so...
Haykuro help us!!
K guys, as some of you know the reason we haven't see any work from one of our most knowledgeable dev's (vilord) is because his vogue is busted.
I'm wondering if anyone has one they'd be willing to donate to him?
I'm making no promises about what he'll be able to release. When he was developing his specialty was working with the RIL, and I'm sure he'd start poking into it again.
Anyways no need to make a speech, most of you know who he is and what's he's done for android on the vogue. So if you have an alltel, sprint or bell vogue you'd be willing to donate, let me know by PM and I'll forward you his info.
I might be able to help..just acquired another vogue (has a busted camera button) that i'd promised my wife..but i'm sure i can bribe her w/ a new phone of her choice that'll free up one of the vogues..i'll get report back if/when the deal's accepted
i second this motion.
1+ from me
I have a vogue that i plugged into a gps charger, led flashed pink and never heard from the phone again lol. it is dead if he needs it for parts it is his.
Oh hamburgers, my coworker just gave away his 2 vogues to his customers and didn't even realize that it can run Android(my bad for not showing him because he is all about the Droid at the moment).
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Oh hamburgers, my coworker just gave away his 2 vogues to his customers and didn' even realize that it can run Android(my bad for not showing him because he is all about the Droid at the moment).
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damn man thats ****ty lol, hey vzw still cant fix my data... i was wondering what you could do if anything
sorry mssmison i posted off topic
jamezelle said:
damn man thats ****ty lol, hey vzw still cant fix my data... i was wondering what you could do if anything
sorry mssmison i posted off topic
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Honestly I'm not sure what to suggest, try reflashing your radio, re-run icoke, hard reset, flash your vendors latest rom? Those would be the steps I would start with before even contacting vzw.
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
Do not feed the troll...
seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.
joey3002 said:
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?
Good riddance.
Whitepaint said:
I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
WalkingTaco said:
Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
P.S. Don't be a bully.
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
Turnyface said:
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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Marisa said:
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!
Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.
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Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
Sheen160 said:
Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user
my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..
Just looking for a list (if any) of Devs who are actively (or passively) working on Rooting Eris with the 1.49 bootloader.
jvward has a wave thread here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703219
where he is diligently tracking any information regarding the root status of Eris.
As a part of this thread, we wanted to gather information on who is working on the root and donation links (where possible).
Let's not let this thread get ugly.
if there is already a thread why are you posting another thread?
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Just looking for a list (if any) of Devs who are actively (or passively) working on Rooting Eris with the 1.49 bootloader....
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No. not too much. I watch the exploit sites but noting has shown up and I am not digging through the source in hopes of finding a bug. Mostly because i have rooted my phone and am am not that altruistic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the eris was never rooted in the true sense of the word. the Devs did nothing technical to root the phone. A pre-rooted leak was obtained. HTC has this thing locked down very well.
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if there is already a thread why are you posting another thread?
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There are threads on Root Status. For all intents and purposes they are dead except for a trickle of despondent users looking for answers.
There is no thread asking for a list of Devs working on root.
If this thread irritates you, don't look at it. Don't go looking for a fight; it's not productive.
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No. not too much. I watch the exploit sites but noting has shown up and I am not digging through the source in hopes of finding a bug. Mostly because i have rooted my phone and am am not that altruistic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the eris was never rooted in the true sense of the word. the Devs did nothing technical to root the phone. A pre-rooted leak was obtained. HTC has this thing locked down very well.
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Yeah, this is the biggest problem in my estimation. No real root was explored which leaves a good portion of Eris users swinging in the breeze.
I was happily rooted until I cracked the screen on my phone. My replacement came flashed with 2.1 and a shiny new 1.49.0000 S=ON bootloader. As a result I am twisting in the wind waiting for a root that will never happen because I fear no one worth their weight in gold is working on it.
I guess the only hope is that if Froyo OTA (if it is ever released for the Eris) will require a new bootloader and push the Dev community into action. One can dream, or go back to my iPhone *shudder*
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I guess the only hope is that if Froyo OTA (if it is ever released for the Eris) will require a new bootloader and push the Dev community into action. One can dream, or go back to my iPhone *shudder*
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HTC has already said they're only bringing phones released in 2010 up to 2.2, so it's fair to assume we're SOL. FWIW, my iPad was jailbroken within 20 minutes of me owning it, while my Eris is woefully unmodifiable.
Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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Good point.
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Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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I'm sure i will take heat but this is bullsh*it. Not the keeping quit because they don't want to be bugged but to think there is a team of people working on it and not posting their results in a bit naive. So far we have had "confirmation" a race condition exists when NOBODY ever got any (non root) version of the leak to get abd running in recovery. we have zinfabs bug that nobody has found a way to exploit and that was over a month ago.
The last very concerted effort ended up in the Tattoo being rooted and was very public throughout the whole process.
Please... Someone prove me wrong.
If you are sitting here thinking that root is just around the corner i fear you may be wasting your time. I am sure once a development occurs it will be plastered all over the forum.
I hope this didn't offend too many people and it in no way was meant to diminish the contributions of all the devs who donate their time energy an resources to the Eris.
Regards
Personally, I don't think anyone is actively working on rooting the Eris. In the case of the race condition that the Incredible had, it prompted some activity. Or, the issue that zifnab posted about 1-2 months ago, that got some people poking again.
I think the best hope is for someone at HTC to leak a rooted ROM again.
Seems to me like my next phone is going to be a Motoral Droid something because these Droid Verizon HTC phones are getting no action. Just saying, HTC was like no way in hell that anyone will be able to tinker with our phones on Verizon lol
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I'm sure i will take heat but this is bullsh*it. Not the keeping quit because they don't want to be bugged but to think there is a team of people working on it and not posting their results in a bit naive. So far we have had "confirmation" a race condition exists when NOBODY ever got any (non root) version of the leak to get abd running in recovery. we have zinfabs bug that nobody has found a way to exploit and that was over a month ago.
The last very concerted effort ended up in the Tattoo being rooted and was very public throughout the whole process.
Please... Someone prove me wrong.
If you are sitting here thinking that root is just around the corner i fear you may be wasting your time. I am sure once a development occurs it will be plastered all over the forum.
I hope this didn't offend too many people and it in no way was meant to diminish the contributions of all the devs who donate their time energy an resources to the Eris.
Regards
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Yeah, just as I thought. We have been left behind by the devs. No one is willing to come forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709450 look in here
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Yeah, just as I thought. We have been left behind by the devs. No one is willing to come forward.
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They've no doubt been trying but at what point do they decide it's not worth the effort ? Isn't that their choice to make ?
I saw a story on BoingBoing indicating that the G2 has a rootkit installed on it.
boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html
I am wondering if anyone can confirm this? I haven't received my phone yet, but that would suck.
yeah, any changes you make are reversed upon reboot
It is a very loose use of the term "rootkit", but from the owner's perspective, it is technically correct.
So is that it. Game over?
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So is that it. Game over?
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I'd wait for some credible evidence first. I haven't seen any at all yet...
I'm hoping there is no real merit to this and that the XDA community finds a workaround. I have faith in the devs here. The first one to get a working, solid root will definitely get a donation from me, lol.
My question is.. if the phone always resets the firmware.. what happens when T-Mobile pushes out the next OTA?
They obviously have a work around that needs to be exploited.
you know, when Motorola was doing this ****...everyone was like "no need to worry, HTC doesn't do this kind of stuff, and they make great phones"
What now? Seems like this is the future for sure
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you know, when Motorola was doing this ****...everyone was like "no need to worry, HTC doesn't do this kind of stuff, and they make great phones"
What now? Seems like this is the future for sure
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I think in cases like these, their hands are probably tied. It's hard to say who to put the blame on. The carrier could've requested the block or they would've rejected HTC. Either way, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The end user pays a monthly bill and has purchased the phone. Why are they now disallowed to alter their investment? I don't see how the carrier or HTC loses. Preventing us from tinkering will just make us grow to hate the carrier, the phone manufacturer or both.
Where are we supposed to go when Android gets completely locked down? That doesn't sound like open source to me and open source is what drove me to Android in the first place.
I'm sure the big difference with the OTA is the fact that it's:
1) a newer version
2) signed
Failing to meet these requirements probably prevents writing to the "permanent" memory.
Well this is quite irritating. Has this sort of thing been implemented on other devices? And if so, has XDA been able to root it?
I guess what im trying to ask is, if this is true, does that mean the G2 can not be rooted? Need to know because im purchasing one soon and if its impossible to root and get roms on, It would be a deal breaker for me.
Well, it can't really be impossible, but if it requires hardware mods or for the signature to be cracked...it may never happen.
Honestly, I'm happy enough with the phone that I wouldn't be upset it if it was never rooted, but of course I'd prefer that it was. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that one of the expert rooters can get the job done.
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Well this is quite irritating. Has this sort of thing been implemented on other devices? And if so, has XDA been able to root it?
I guess what im trying to ask is, if this is true, does that mean the G2 can not be rooted? Need to know because im purchasing one soon and if its impossible to root and get roms on, It would be a deal breaker for me.
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Anything that can be engineered, can ultimately be reverse engineered. I'm sure once devs like Cyanogen and others get a G2 in hand, they'll have some sort of solution or at least a better explanation than what this website gives. One can only hope. If it turns out to be hardware-driven, that scares me a bit.
Wow, what a boneheaded move by Tmo considering that so many people considered the G2 to be the successor to the N1 as a dev phone.
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I'm sure the big difference with the OTA is the fact that it's:
1) a newer version
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Failing to meet these requirements probably prevents writing to the "permanent" memory.
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That shouldn't matter then.. remember the CLIQ and DROID were rooted by adding SU to a signed OTA w/o changing the signature bits in the compressed OTA.
iT cant be impossible cause then we would never be able to get updates so like everyone is saying im sure some Pro Moders / Hackers will find a way. Will it be as simple as other roots? Prly not but im sure at some point we will have it. I to am happy with the phone as is and rly the only thing that we are lacking (correct me if im wrong) is the built in teathering and becoming a WiFi hotspot. I can live without those things but some people might need them. At any rate my fingers are crossed =)
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Wow, what a boneheaded move by Tmo considering that so many people considered the G2 to be the successor to the N1 as a dev phone.
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The G2 is not a dev phone and they dont have dev phones of the G2 available for purchase..not sure what your inferring? The G1 had dev phones as did the N1.. nothing on the G2 though as of yet.
Well, if this is the case, then the phone goes back today. *sigh* I really like Android 2.2 over 1.6.
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The G2 is not a dev phone and they dont have dev phones of the G2 available for purchase..not sure what your inferring? The G1 had dev phones as did the N1.. nothing on the G2 though as of yet.
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He wasn't referring to an actual "dev" G2 phone...he meant the G2 was perceived as the next big "open" phone for devs to have just how the N1 was widely accepted/perceived as a phone for devs (being able to root, load custom ROMS, etc. freely) (ie. moto's execs telling disgruntled X owners that if they wish to have custom roms and such they should buy a google n1).
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... I wouldn't be upset it if it was never rooted, but of course I'd prefer that it was. ...
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The problem with this position is if you have a need that T-Mobile refuses to meet, then you cannot override them.
But as others have pointed out, it can be reversed engineered. Physical access to the hardware essentially makes it vunderable to whatever security counter-measures you wish to invest in.