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I have looked and looked and maybe im just usnig the wrong words in seach but i havenet been able to find anything yet. I am looking for a virgin 1.5 rom that i can use to start freh and make my own rom to flash to my phone. Basically what I am looking for is a rom (not the RUU that puts a factory default on it) but the actual factory original rom before anyone has taken anytihg out or put on there own themes.
I have looked and looked. I find all kinds of roms to flash to my phone but all of them have been violated in some way or anouther. and although they are nice i would rather do it myself than use someone elses.
If this is already discussed somewhere please link me to it and i am sorry but i havent found it.
Thanx in advance for any help anyone can give me.
This might be what your looking for..
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-hero-roms/6699-cdma-hero-rom-gumbo-rom-1-5c.html#post41536
Check in the sticky wiki for available roms
Yeah me too! Damn all these promiscuous ROMs
Wouldn't doing an RUU and then rooting give you what you want?
casperlt1 said:
This might be what your looking for..
Check in the sticky wiki for available roms
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This gives you gumbo wich has stuff removed and added I want what gumbo based his off of not what gumbo did too it so to speak. Not that I dont like gumbo but he removed things I want virgin before that.
I have checked all of the roms on the wiki page and all have something done to them.
Where is the one that says here is the stock rom from sprint with nothing done to it.
justinisyoung said:
Wouldn't doing an RUU and then rooting give you what you want?
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No, doing the ruu from what I understand installs the factory original to the phone. I want it before it goes into the phone so I can modify it before it goes to the phone. Also I would like to re install the rom whenever I want but using the RUU i would have to use the RUU next time and the update it again.
Tipharet said:
Yeah me too! Damn all these promiscuous ROMs
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HeHeHe. Thats funny!!!
This has to be out there. Basically I want a rom that if I flashed it to the phone would be no different than if I bought a new phone from sprint and turned it on.
You cant tell me everyone that roots their phone wants other than stock rom on it.
@ cammel, I agree with justinisyoung
theres not much more to it.
just flash an RUU and root it. this will provide the base files you need for your stock rom.
david7586 said:
@ cammel, I agree with justinisyoung
theres not much more to it.
just flash an RUU and root it. this will provide the base files you need for your stock rom.
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Ok, say I do the RUU how do I get the rom off the phone to edit it?
I think what youre talking about doing would be creating a signed update zip. While I dont know how to do it those are probably the key words you'd need to search to find the answers youre looking for. Hope that helps!
cammel8 said:
Ok, say I do the RUU how do I get the rom off the phone to edit it?
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To my understanding the RUU is not a ROM.
It is a return to factory default. You would typically use this option when you needed to take your phone in for repair to the store or to get it back to stock.
So after your run the RUU, you would then root your phone using the method of your choosing, and then you would have what you are asking for.
When you download the RUU, there is a file called rom.zip
That's what you're looking for.
HERNANDEZ4LIFE said:
I think what youre talking about doing would be creating a signed update zip. While I dont know how to do it those are probably the key words you'd need to search to find the answers youre looking for. Hope that helps!
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I know how to creat a signed update zip I do that alot. I need a rom to sign.
ccapasso said:
To my understanding the RUU is not a ROM.
It is a return to factory default. You would typically use this option when you needed to take your phone in for repair to the store or to get it back to stock.
So after your run the RUU, you would then root your phone using the method of your choosing, and then you would have what you are asking for.
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Yes you are correct that the phone would be back to original. But then how do i get that to my computer to edit it?
Also with this method I would have to re root my phone.
Plus Ive heard that you can brick your phone with the RUU with a 110 error thats unbrickable. not exactly fond of that idea.
abcdfv said:
When you download the RUU, there is a file called rom.zip
That's what you're looking for.
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In th rom.zip there is a bunch of img files. im guessing if i tried to use that it would error out on me. I need the one with like sytem fioles and stuff I can edit.
You cant tell me this isnt out there. People have been modding this rom since it came out. So there has to be an untouched original somewhere to wich you can base your work off of. Otherwise that would meen everyone bases there work off of other peoples and never start from scratch. Is that really the case? Am I the first that wants a fresh rom to start with and build from there?
Contained in the image files is what you're look for.
abcdfv said:
Contained in the image files is what you're look for.
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Ok I have tried extracting info out of the img files with powerISO, magicISO, imageburn, IrfanView, XnVview and Iso buster. But all of them say it is the wrong format.
I have seen multiple threads that link to a how to extract the files using unyaffs and ubuntu but I dont have ubuntu.
So I now have two questions:
First
Is it possible to extract files from an img file using window (windows 7 to be exact) and if it is possible what program would I use.
Second
Is there a tutorial out there Im missing?
Sorry If im being a pain in the A** about this and I usually figure stuff out on my own but this one is really givin me a headache. I have been working for three days on this one and its really getting to me.
If anyone can help me I would Appreciate it.
And thanx to everyone that has tried to help so far. Every time I get an answer that doesnt work it just meens Im one step closer to finding one that does so thanx everyone.
http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/android/index.html
Here is a good place to get started.
What you're interested atm is the unyaffs program.
Google and forum search are really useful tools and the answers to your questions are out there. Just not packaged nice and neat like you would want.
Here's the jist of what you need to get started.
1. Android SDK
2. Java JDK
3. android zip signing tool
4. unyaffs utility
5. RUU
6. start RUU
7. let it go all the way just before the point where it actually starts to flash your phone.
8. check your computers temp folder for the system.img
9. unpackage it using unyaffs
10. enjoy naked young virgin
11. zip devirgined rom back up
12. sign it
13. flash it
14. fix bugs, rinse, repeat
15. try and search next time.
16. sorry about the crankiness, had a lousy day at work.
hope my step-by-step while not overly detailed was helpful.
are you looking for AOSP? or do you want Sense UI and all that stuff? RUU Includes Sense
obelisk79 said:
Google and forum search are really useful tools and the answers to your questions are out there. Just not packaged nice and neat like you would want.
Here's the jist of what you need to get started.
1. Android SDK
2. Java JDK
3. android zip signing tool
4. unyaffs utility
5. RUU
6. start RUU
7. let it go all the way just before the point where it actually starts to flash your phone.
8. check your computers temp folder for the system.img
9. unpackage it using unyaffs
10. enjoy naked young virgin
11. zip devirgined rom back up
12. sign it
13. flash it
14. fix bugs, rinse, repeat
15. try and search next time.
16. sorry about the crankiness, had a lousy day at work.
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Ok I understand your cranky, but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.
So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site, and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning, after reading a bunch of stuff on here, I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.
The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done, uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, "Easy GIF Animator", which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. Just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)
Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far, I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons, the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.
Yeah me, I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file, name it update, and flash it, but it won't work. After some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so I search find out how to do that and, wa la, I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)
So then I decide, well everyone else is adding and removing files, couldn't be that hard, so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all. So I added the programs I always have on my phone, and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee, now we are talking. (All from searching.)
Then I start playing with some of the apps, and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wouldnt send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)
So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway, and the apps I like in it, I can just add myself. So I search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone, add them to a zip file, name it update, and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how to make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out, after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh, live and learn I guess.
So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. (still cant) Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. Yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.
There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.
So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files, and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more, but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.
So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.
I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer, download ubuntu, and install it. Get all of my files, take them to the other computer, and start reading the tutorials. This is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal. would it really kill the people that made the tutorials to put that little tidbit itn there. go ahead look not one of them I saw asid open terminal thay just say type this) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out, I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.
I disconnect the computer, take it outside, and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. Seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying, and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer or operating system again was almost blissful.
I came back in, and through utter frustration and dismay, haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. Yes, finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME, I KNOW IT NOW. So I go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it, there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something. Screw it, I'll load it. So I download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. And guess what, it didn't fix it.
So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 gazillion that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me, or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.
30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". Well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.
I flash it to my phone, the whole time it is going, I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying, Come on, copying files, yes its working! Finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything, I finally have it, my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.
Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot and get the same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer, but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.
That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. That is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth, It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching. and not finding Sh*t might I add. there is a whole bunch of stuff but nothing that directly relates to what I need.
I dont think I am doing that bad either, I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting their Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now. And I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.
Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.
I thought that is what this forum was for.
I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.
I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor can do to his phone by reading a tutorial or watching it on youtube. (Sh*t I never even thought of youtube. Probly somthing on there I could have watched instead of reading it. Oh well maybe next time.)
I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.
I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.
Maybe you are Ok with that, maybe you're not, But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible, or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out, but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.
But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone, maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything, and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist, and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.
This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know, just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I would understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums elseware but I didn't.
Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work, I can tell them why, instead of "I don't know, it just don't work" I want to understand what I am doing, not just do it for the sake of doing it.
So as far as your crankiness goes, Sorry if I made you cranky, but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help, you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.
So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. Now onto what I came here for originally :
abcdfv said:
link to unyaffs program
Here is a good place to get started.
What you're interested atm is the unyaffs program.
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Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a Huge step closer. I got it out of the RUU, got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. but that is for anouther day, Im going to sleep. But thank you for finding that for me. I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
Congrats. Sorry I wasn't so specific first time around. Forgot it was in .img contained as yaffs.
cammel8 said:
Ok I understand your cranky but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.
So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning after reading a bunch of stuff on here I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.
The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, Easy GIF Animator, which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)
Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.
Yeah me I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file name it update and flash it but it won't work. after some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so i search find out how to do that and wa la I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)
So then I decide well everyone else is adding and removing files couldn't be that hard so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all so I added the programs I always have on my phone and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee now we are talking. (All from searching.)
Then I start playing with some of the apps and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wound send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)
So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway and the apps I like in it I can just add myself. So i search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone add them to a zip file name it update and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how t make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh live and learn I guess.
So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.
There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.
So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.
So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.
I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer download ubuntu and install it. get all of my files take them to the other computer and start reading the tutorials. this is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.
I disconnect the computer and take it outside and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer again was almost blissful.
I came back in and through utter frustration and dismay. haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. yes finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME I KNOW IT NOW. So i go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something . screw it ill load it so i download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. and guess what, it didn't fix it.
So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 million that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.
30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.
I flash it to my phone the whole time it is going I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying Come one copying files, yes its working! finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything I finally have it my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.
Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.
That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. that is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching.
I dont think I am doing that bad either I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting there Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now and I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.
Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.
I thought that is what this forum was for.
I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.
I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor did to his phone.
I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.
I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.
Maybe you are Ok with that maybe you're not But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.
But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.
This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums else ware but I didn't.
Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work I can tell them why instead of "I don't know, it just don't" I want to understand what I am doing not just do it for the sake of doing it.
So as far as your crankiness goes Sorry if I made you cranky but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.
So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. now onto what I vcame here for originally :
Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a HUge step closer. I got it out of the ruu got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. But thank you for finding that for me I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
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Holy **** I didn't read one word that.
Good luck man!
Hi everyone.
Really looking for some help in (very) layman's terms. I've searched in the forum for other people with the same problem but the answers are so technical (to me) they go straight over my head!
I have bought a 2nd hand Xperia Play and when I flip it open it doesn't go straight to Games Launcher and I can't see games launcher listed as an app. Either in the App settings on the app scroll through.
I then tried a few times to download the Games Launcher through Android Market and it kept giving me an error message that it can't download. I've tried restoring factory settings and this has made no difference and have also updated the software.
So, where do I go from here? I only wanted the phone for gaming and at the moment I can't do that! Any help, a step by step guide on what to do etc would be really appreciated.
Good karma awaits!
Cheers,
NB
NomadicBoo said:
Hi everyone.
Really looking for some help in (very) layman's terms. I've searched in the forum for other people with the same problem but the answers are so technical (to me) they go straight over my head!
I have bought a 2nd hand Xperia Play and when I flip it open it doesn't go straight to Games Launcher and I can't see games launcher listed as an app. Either in the App settings on the app scroll through.
I then tried a few times to download the Games Launcher through Android Market and it kept giving me an error message that it can't download. I've tried restoring factory settings and this has made no difference and have also updated the software.
So, where do I go from here? I only wanted the phone for gaming and at the moment I can't do that! Any help, a step by step guide on what to do etc would be really appreciated.
Good karma awaits!
Cheers,
NB
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You can use flashtool to flash a stock rom, You don't need to be rooted or bootloader unlocked to do this, It will restore your device to factory default. Look in the dev section
Hey,
Thanks for replying.
My point about (very) layman's was maybe not stressed enough. I don't have a clue what any of what you typed means!
In the meantime, I've changed Playstation Pocket to automatically start when I flip open and even that's not responding. Wondering if I have bought a dodgy phone!
If you can clarify where to look and what to do RE flash that would be great.
Cheers,
James
I'm guessing you mean this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048422
I really don't understand what I'm supposed to do. Do I download it through the phones browser?
James
Ok flashtool is a windows application. Download flashtool and then search the dev section for the firmware you would like to flash, install the drivers in the driver folder in flashtool, copy your downloaded .tft file to the firmware folder in flashtool.
now run flashtool, pick the firmware and follow the onscreen instructions.
(I'm sure if you searched you will find more indepth info on how to use flashtool)
U said the phone is second hand does it have a super user icon in the main apps menu or one called titanium backup ?
If the previous owner rooted the phone and removed some bloatware it could be as simple as replacing the missing items
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Thanks for all the help.
Unfortunately, after a whole weekend of trying to Flash I'm still tearing my hair out. Just a few quick questions.
1) My phone came without an SD card and I used a blank new card. If the games launcher was pre-installed on an SD - could any remnents of the file remain on the phone itself or is it likely to be a different problem?
2) I have downloaded ES File Explorer - What would I be looking to remove? File name and location.
3) If I still can work it out, is there anywhere I can take the phone to have someone take a look at it? I imagine a normal phone shop won't have a clue.
Cheers,
James
Just download the Xperia pc companion software from Sony and use it to restore you Xperia to stock. It will put the games and everything back to stock. It's the easiest way to get back to stock. Other way is with flash tool.
Sent from my iPhone 4s
Hey guys,
So I finally got around to getting this mess sorted out with trying to get Order and Chaos working on my Galaxy Note and it runs great once you actually get 'around' the device checking nonsense.
I do actually own an Android Market and a Gameloft Store license for the game as well as have a subscription but unfortunately neither of these files will actually work due to the in-place device checking.
Unfortunately I cannot tell you where to download these files but the following are the two files you need:
- Order-and-Chaos-v1.0.8-approb.com.apk
- GloftMMHM-snapdragon-approb.com.rar
Once you have both of those files you need to copy the Order-and-Chaos-v1.0.8-approb.com.apk file to your phone via whatever method you usually use, then extract the GloftMMHM-snapdragon-approb.com.rar file to your computer, connect your phone to the computer via USB and copy the files you extracted to the following directory:
/Android/data/com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM
Unfortunately this copy of Order and Chaos will start in non-English mode, you can change this simply by tapping the bottom right button which will open the "Settings" menu. From there, select the bottom option and tap the American flag.
Congratulations! You now have a working copy of Order and Chaos on your Galaxy Note.
I have created a forum thread on the gameloft forums pointing out that this is a major inconvenience and such complex work-arounds should not be necessary to use a game which works perfectly on a device of my choosing for a game I have a license for.
http://forum.gameloft.com/index.php/topic,43433.0.html
Hopefully this helps some of you folks trying to get this working!
Note: The same strategy as outlined above should still work and is reported to work but I have stopped bothering with this game. If a developer can't be bothered to implement a simple fix like this, in an MMORPG no less, they don't deserve my hard earned money. Also, if you can't manage to find the files using Google, keep looking! They're literally insanely easy to find if you just look for the filenames - use your noggin' - don't expect xda-developers to do *everything* for you
Good job!
Developers need to stop this nonsense.
O M G!
It works like a charm... : O Thank you very much for this, have been searching soo much for just THIS
Sweet Jesus im playin, bye
No problem! Yeah I was searching for this like crazy so decided to just bite the bullet and try various things until something worked!
Thanks! Been constantly searching since I got my Note on how to get this game to work. It's unfortunate that "piracy" is the only way to play it for now but hopefully gameloft opens their eyes and makes the proper changes. Like you, I also own two copies on my Android device and also own a copy for my now sold iPhone 4. I have paid for subscription and have not been able to play it since my note doesn't support it. Again thank you for your efforts and I'll see you online hehehe
Hi,
I have copied the rar contents to the correct path (I am sure because when I uninstall app, this folder is deleted)
but still I get the "your device is not compatible" error when I launch the game.
What is it that I am doing wrong ?
mrmrmrmr said:
Hi,
I have copied the rar contents to the correct path (I am sure because when I uninstall app, this folder is deleted)
but still I get the "your device is not compatible" error when I launch the game.
What is it that I am doing wrong ?
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I'd appreciate any ideas/help/reply...
mrmrmrmr said:
I'd appreciate any ideas/help/reply...
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Try To delete the whole Gameloft Folder on your internal SD Card. Helped me so far
where is that Gameloft folder ?
mrmrmrmr said:
where is that Gameloft folder ?
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If you connect your Phone (With USB Debugging activated) On the Internal SD (where you have the android Folder, the exernal_Sd Folder etc.)
And there you should have a gameloft folder and you should delete the whole folder: )
there's just one gameloft folder on my Note:
\Android\data\com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM
what else can I do ?
I'd appreciate any help..
i
mrmrmrmr said:
there's just one gameloft folder on my Note:
\Android\data\com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM
what else can I do ?
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So you Delete This Folder and then you go back to the SD Root and search for a Gameloft Folder (Right where Android is)
\Gameloft\
If you have it... delete it.. if you dont have. Delete the other Folder, Restart Phone, Plugin Usb and copy the Data THEN
If its not working delete it again, Restart Phone, Copy Data back to phone and download the apk from the side where you downloaded the Files and Start the apk yourself then...
Hope it works out for you
Greets
Thanks!!
Thanks a million for the info Chris! Works like a charm
The way I got it working was....when I had my GS2 I backed it up with Titanium Backup and then restore it on Note...works flawless...since it won't appear on Market with Note.
Hi,
Thanks for getting us this amazing game!
I got both the required files and placed in the right path.
Been trying all the delete/restart/load and still can't get it to work on my Note...
Anything else need to be check?
-cheers
no matter what I do, my Note connects to internet and checks for files. Then the game says my device is not compatible.
any suggestions ?
mrmrmrmr said:
no matter what I do, my Note connects to internet and checks for files. Then the game says my device is not compatible.
any suggestions ?
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any idea guys ?
i can buy pay time from market with that method?? , tx
I assume you guys are extracting the RAR file and placing the files in the path specified, right? If so, try downloading the files to see what the directory name created is, then replace the files in that folder with the files you downloaded in the RAR file and relaunch the game.
As for buying game time - no sadly that doesn't work but I'm afraid this was the best I could find and since I already had a month or so left it hasn't been a problem for me (yet.)
before this htc 626 a32_ul phone i had nexus 7 (2013) 32gb tablet which was simple to root, and make use of my system as best i could, but without any access to sdcard to add extra storage space for apps and media i might like to store , i always thought i was half cheated out of the full potential of possible maximum use of the hardware i had paid for, now i have brought htc 626 a32_ul phone with 16 gb memory, i was thinking that is ok i root it like my nexus , but never realised the problem that s-on causes would cause me, and with the bloat ware that htc installs that i have no use off the memory free to use for apps is even far smaller than i had thought i would have, media i can store on sdcard and is only dependant on size of my sdcard, but the number of apps i can use is severally restricted by the limited internal memory,if i had known of this problem before purchase i would never have brought this phone, i like the phone , i am ok with its working speed, but with the amount of space taken up by bloatware that i have no use of ,i now wish i never brought this phone, it has driven me to learn lot more about android system in trying to root this phone and now feel lot more confidant in using adb and fastboot cmds and have even help couple people to recover their phones from bricked status in the process which has given me some small compensation . but really i would just liked simple purchase of phone and additional sdcard and install at will what apps i liked with plenty space on sdcard for music and films or tv recordings i would like to see, and also be able to remove or move to sdcard any bloat ware that i dont much care for, the high use apps i would like to keep on main memory and those apps i dont use often moved to sdcard is simple really if i dont use much i dont much care about start-up time , but if i use often then i would like to start up asop.
this is how os should work for the benefit of the user.
But android is being designed to force people to buy the high end phones and tablets with large internal memory so they can maximise profits,
su or superuser program is like 100 kb of space yet even so i paid for hardware i am not allowed use of super user privilege . so i am sold a phone hardware that im free to choose what phone provider i want , but am not allowed to use my phones hardware as i want until i void my warranty and install a custom rom that will give me access to my root system even so i own the hardware outright to use as i want, i not free to use the open os as i want, is weird situation . a bit ilike being sold a kettle to make tea , but you are not allowed to make coffee because of limitation imposed by the manufacturer, and if u do make coffee with such machine you invalidate your warranty.
also with htc 626 ?? suffix x, w p, h , s,g all having different chipsets we are let in a minefield of matching up boot recovery and root,
regards frank gambit
my thoughts on this htc 626 ( is so many pref-axis ) prefix wtf would be more appropriate universal prefix appropriate to this phone.
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before this htc 626 a32_ul phone i had nexus 7 (2013) 32gb tablet which was simple to root, and make use of my system as best i could, but without any access to sdcard to add extra storage space for apps and media i might like to store , i always thought i was half cheated out of the full potential of possible maximum use of the hardware i had paid for, now i have brought htc 626 a32_ul phone with 16 gb memory, i was thinking that is ok i root it like my nexus , but never realised the problem that s-on causes would cause me, and with the bloat ware that htc installs that i have no use off the memory free to use for apps is even far smaller than i had thought i would have, media i can store on sdcard and is only dependant on size of my sdcard, but the number of apps i can use is severally restricted by the limited internal memory,if i had known of this problem before purchase i would never have brought this phone, i like the phone , i am ok with its working speed, but with the amount of space taken up by bloatware that i have no use of ,i now wish i never brought this phone, it has driven me to learn lot more about android system in trying to root this phone and now feel lot more confidant in using adb and fastboot cmds and have even help couple people to recover their phones from bricked status in the process which has given me some small compensation . but really i would just liked simple purchase of phone and additional sdcard and install at will what apps i liked with plenty space on sdcard for music and films or tv recordings i would like to see, and also be able to remove or move to sdcard any bloat ware that i dont much care for, the high use apps i would like to keep on main memory and those apps i dont use often moved to sdcard is simple really if i dont use much i dont much care about start-up time , but if i use often then i would like to start up asop.
this is how os should work for the benefit of the user.
But android is being designed to force people to buy the high end phones and tablets with large internal memory so they can maximise profits,
su or superuser program is like 100 kb of space yet even so i paid for hardware i am not allowed use of super user privilege . so i am sold a phone hardware that im free to choose what phone provider i want , but am not allowed to use my phones hardware as i want until i void my warranty and install a custom rom that will give me access to my root system even so i own the hardware outright to use as i want, i not free to use the open os as i want, is weird situation . a bit ilike being sold a kettle to make tea , but you are not allowed to make coffee because of limitation imposed by the manufacturer, and if u do make coffee with such machine you invalidate your warranty.
also with htc 626 ?? suffix x, w p, h , s,g all having different chipsets we are let in a minefield of matching up boot recovery and root,
regards frank gambit
my thoughts on this htc 626 ( is so many pref-axis ) prefix wtf would be more appropriate universal prefix appropriate to this phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-626/development/desire-626s-root-t3249254
gingrbred said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-626/development/desire-626s-root-t3249254
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that is my point that link is for htc626s custom rom which is a qualcomm 210 chipset, my htc626 is a32_ul chipset and i think is also called htc626x in asia the custom recovery rom i need to root my phone i have found link too but is Chinese site that u need be knight ranked to download but i dont know how to get to knight rank,
they have a link to a file named twrp-2.8.7.0-a32_ul.rar the site is ai-development.org http://www.ai-development.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8345 , so i waiting till i get knight rank and free to download but as this sight is in Chinese and doesn't work correctly in gogle translate it is hard to navigate to do the task to gain this knight ranking thing.
Not the only one
I found this site as well when researching a way to get TWRP for this specific Desire 626 model. I made an account on the website but it is too hard to decipher how I am even meant to earn levels or coins etc. I tried but was unable to get far.
I THINK I have 10 coins but I still need the lvl 5 trainee knight thing and am just classed as a lvl 1 civilian. God darn. >_>
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I found this site as well when researching a way to get TWRP for this specific Desire 626 model. I made an account on the website but it is too hard to decipher how I am even meant to earn levels or coins etc. I tried but was unable to get far.
I THINK I have 10 coins but I still need the lvl 5 trainee knight thing and am just classed as a lvl 1 civilian. God darn. >_>
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i have got to lvl 3 now
as u have to register daily on http://www.ai-development.org/plugin.php?id=dsu_paulsign:sign daily attendance page and leave a smiley face and hello each day .
plus complete tasks on http://www.ai-development.org/home.php?mod=task forum task page
first two task are dooable.
as to reading the pages i goto the raw page http://www.ai-development.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8345 first then login via facebook , mistake was going to google translate page u need original page for menus to work properly then right click on web page and pick translate to english then this will translate the page and keep all menus and buttons working properly. i keep logging there till i get the file i want or i find it or make it myself whatever happens first not sure which ill do first rofl :laugh:
Managed to get custom recoveries for it
So I managed to get two image files and when doing the fastboot boot command, it didn't display the error for not having a dtb as the recovery is rebuilt for this device (as far as I can see anyway). I flashed each file as well to try each of them that way instead of the boot command as the boot command just froze the phone and both gave the same result. It will boot into recovery mode but will have a blank screen and not do anything.
I'll link the files download links, as well as the source as to where I downloaded the files here below. All credit should go to the creators of the files.
Try them out and see if you can get them working yourself.
As a note, I am unable to post links due to the account type I have as it is now so put mediafire before those links with a forward slash. Also, one is for TWRP 2.8.0.0 and one is 2.8.7.0. Anyway...
?ubuhbdj0ygdkcqb
and
?bviw88iyrgmyef8
Source: type twrp a32_ul into google and it will be on the website known as ai-development
Good luck and let me know if you make any progress with these.
ThatOneJoshy said:
So I managed to get two image files and when doing the fastboot boot command, it didn't display the error for not having a dtb as the recovery is rebuilt for this device (as far as I can see anyway). I flashed each file as well to try each of them that way instead of the boot command as the boot command just froze the phone and both gave the same result. It will boot into recovery mode but will have a blank screen and not do anything.
I'll link the files download links, as well as the source as to where I downloaded the files here below. All credit should go to the creators of the files.
Try them out and see if you can get them working yourself.
As a note, I am unable to post links due to the account type I have as it is now so put mediafire before those links with a forward slash. Also, one is for TWRP 2.8.0.0 and one is 2.8.7.0. Anyway...
?ubuhbdj0ygdkcqb
and
?bviw88iyrgmyef8
Source: type twrp a32_ul into google and it will be on the website known as ai-development
Good luck and let me know if you make any progress with these.
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thanks for the links saved me 3 weeks time
i get the same problem with blank screen but does read as a htc626x asia device in recovery mode with blank screen not sure why that is yet.
First link for 2.8.0.0 can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ub...0.0-a32_ul.rar
Second link for 2.8.7.0 can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/bv...7.0-a32_ul.rar
i thought you wouldnt mind me posting link for your 2 files here for others to try out as more people trying this out more likely we find a method to next step a working screen and/or rooting method.
also i been using squabbis htc one toolkit with updated fastboot and adb files so it works with our device , so here is link to modified squabbis toolkit isnt my program but does now work for htc 626 device.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Xp3GIFBvPvWnRuanE1b1ZJVmM/view?usp=sharing
i hope this helps everyone out there trying to gain root or custom recovery and more ppl trying stuff out more likley someone hit pot luck and resolve this problem
:laugh:
regards frnkGambit
frankgambit said:
thanks for the links saved me 3 weeks time
i get the same problem with blank screen but does read as a htc626x asia device in recovery mode with blank screen not sure why that is yet.
First link for 2.8.0.0 can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ub...0.0-a32_ul.rar
Second link for 2.8.7.0 can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/bv...7.0-a32_ul.rar
i thought you wouldnt mind me posting link for your 2 files here for others to try out as more people trying this out more likely we find a method to next step a working screen and/or rooting method.
also i been using squabbis htc one toolkit with updated fastboot and adb files so it works with our device , so here is link to modified squabbis toolkit isnt my program but does now work for htc 626 device.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Xp3GIFBvPvWnRuanE1b1ZJVmM/view?usp=sharing
i hope this helps everyone out there trying to gain root or custom recovery and more ppl trying stuff out more likley someone hit pot luck and resolve this problem
:laugh:
regards frnkGambit
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I know its been awhiel, but do you ahve the files still? all the links seem to be dead
Hi @ all ,
I ask the question becasue unable to find the answer ..
i just need to change the download location of my browser (chrome or adblock) to external sd card .
But cannot find any information about this .
Can someone help me ???
if no usual option existing , my phone is rooted .
Thanks a lot .
I don't think you really can.
Even if you are using the same browser as on your PC, on a phone you have limited functionality.
However, you can manually move the downloaded files on your SD card (it sounds stupid, but I can't actually think of anything else).
RossTeagan said:
I don't think you really can.
Even if you are using the same browser as on your PC, on a phone you have limited functionality.
However, you can manually move the downloaded files on your SD card (it sounds stupid, but I can't actually think of anything else).
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Thanks for taking the time to answer . The issue is that the file i'm downloading are too big for my internal SD . that why i need to have them downloaded directly to my ext sd.
I can't believe there is no way to do this...but thanks for the effort !
zapatt said:
Hi @ all ,
I ask the question becasue unable to find the answer ..
i just need to change the download location of my browser (chrome or adblock) to external sd card .
But cannot find any information about this .
Can someone help me ???
if no usual option existing , my phone is rooted .
Thanks a lot .
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If possible for you to download Samsung Internet it's easy!
Start internet>settings>advanced> and save content to sd card ... or use the usb-c to usb adapter that came with the phone and use external HDD.
Seems not possible in chrome now.
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maybe a stupid question, but why dont you install any kind of download manager from the play store? This way, every time you download something you get asked where you want to save the file. And this would work in any browser
FloM94 said:
maybe a stupid question, but why dont you install any kind of download manager from the play store? This way, every time you download something you get asked where you want to save the file. And this would work in any browser
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And I have yet another stupid question. Why don't you download that file from your PC and then copy it on your SD card, which you can later insert it in your phone. Or use G drive (or Dropbox) app to download it and access it on your phone.
FloM94 said:
maybe a stupid question, but why dont you install any kind of download manager from the play store? This way, every time you download something you get asked where you want to save the file. And this would work in any browser
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I usually try to avoid multiplying apps , but maybe it s time to find a good download manager thanks for advice . i will try ADM on playstore
zapatt said:
I usually try to avoid multiplying apps , but maybe it s time to find a good download manager thanks for advice . i will try ADM on playstore
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Or you use a browser with an integrated download manager like dolphin. I think opera is also asking where to save downloaded files.
RossTeagan said:
And I have yet another stupid question. Why don't you download that file from your PC and then copy it on your SD card, which you can later insert it in your phone. Or use G drive (or Dropbox) app to download it and access it on your phone.
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Because i m using 4 g networks to download , and i have no pc with me when i m on journey ( i use 4 g network when i am in big cities to download huge files when i got good networks , usually virtual machine for my work , then i use them at home on my pc to work, so i do the exact inverted process cause of poor adsl connection compare to 4G).
Bu tthanks to all got now lots of solutions :
Use opera mini
Use samsung internet
Use a download manager.
Thanks XDA !
It's not possible to control the download location of chrome on android as far as I know, but you could try using an app like Advanced Download Manager. It has it's own browser that allows full control over downloads and uses the SD card as the default download location.