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Yes it's a shame that the globalized Google decided to sell N1 in USA and GB only...available in the rest of Europe in the spring...
Really I can't understand why after cloning iPhone customization (and not only...) Google decided also to clone the commercial strategy of the earliest Iphone 2G...Soon Apple realized that there were more iphone in Europe than in USA LOL!!!
Now how to get one in Italy? Who want to buy one for me...
THX in advance!
check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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What about the activation button? Does anyone know if there is some kind of activation that binds the phone to the google account from where it is bought (or is this button only for the t-mobile phone)?
Is there anything else to consider before buying it (except the high price) from ebay and using it in Europe?
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Thanx for your answer.
I checked ebay and it would cost about 250$ over the real price. Really too much.
no, it only binds it to your google checkout account, not your gmail account.
so you will be able to activate it where you are
It may suck but different markets get different phones at different times. I don't know how many times I have seen a really cool phone only to discover that it will never hit the shores here in the US. This time it worked out that we got the phone.
I guess it comes down to you win some you loose some.
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It may suck but different markets get different phones at different times. I don't know how many times I have seen a really cool phone only to discover that it will never hit the shores here in the US. This time it worked out that we got the phone.
I guess it comes down to you win some you loose some.
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Yes maybe you are right...but not considering a whole market like europe...like italy, where people go on purcheasing technology also in a bad economic period, would be an error!
Let me get one first. Then I can get into shipping out of country. I own an IT business and I have create multiple google accounts under that and perhaps get 5 for each account I make up. I want to make sure the phone can be activated etc before I start ordering phones that may not work later (screwing me and screwing others).
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no, it only binds it to your google checkout account, not your gmail account.
so you will be able to activate it where you are
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That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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Let me get one first. Then I can get into shipping out of country. I own an IT business and I have create multiple google accounts under that and perhaps get 5 for each account I make up. I want to make sure the phone can be activated etc before I start ordering phones that may not work later (screwing me and screwing others).
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You have a PM
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That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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I'll let you know once I get the phone.
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That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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I believe 'activation' refers only to if you are just starting a new wireless plan. if you already have a SIM card, it should work right away, I think. someone please correct me if I'm wrong
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Yeah, at the 150% price
I'm also in Italy at the moment and I have mine on the way only I don't know if my method would work for you. I'm stationed in Sicily for the time being and I used a site called shipitapo.com. Not sure if this site would work for you but I'm willing to bet there is something similar. As for the purchasing part I just went to google checkout and setup my account so all the information was already in the system, including shipping address and credit card. Then I had my brother who is in the states log into my google account and purchase it for me. He just had to click a couple of links and because everything was already setup. Now its on the way. hopefully you can find something similar. Might be able to use a US proxy to be able to log into you google account and purchase it.
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good idea! I should need a brother, and in usa! About shipitapo.com, it's because Google won't ship it abroad?
Well, according to the iPhone wiki there are 6.4 million iPhones (of 33 million total) in the US alone. Considering Google is an American company, and the App Marketplace had first purchasing support in the US as well, it makes sense to distribute a handset with this much probably popularity in the areas that are easier to support first. Not to mention they partnered with T-Mobile US (an existing partner) for subsidized handset sales and will likely get a huge bump in volume just from that alone.
I have to agree with the earlier comment about how often I've seen really nice phones only to have them never show up in the US (or after they've already become quite out of date). It's nice having top-tier phones start in the US first and then move out from here. A truly global launch with so many new moving parts at once (new hardware, new version of the OS that might not be fully localized yet, thousands of market apps that still don't work with the DROID, etc) would be a total nightmare and make no sense at all.
And yesss...I found how to place an order from all over the world. Just placed mine from Italy. It has been easy...I will reveal it ad soon as I get shipping confirmation!
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It wasn't actually that bad looking back eh?
well I tried to buy a Nexus one, Ive now given up, credit and debit card orders refused when there is absolutley nothing wrong with either account, they are business accounts with plenty of funding.
Talk about a tad insulting!
Why on earth dont they take paypal?
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well I tried to buy a Nexus one, Ive now given up, credit and debit card orders refused when there is absolutley nothing wrong with either account, they are business accounts with plenty of funding.
Talk about a tad insulting!
Why on earth dont they take paypal?
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Cuz it's Google... so they take Google Checkout. Have you tried non-business accounts?
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well I tried to buy a Nexus one, Ive now given up, credit and debit card orders refused when there is absolutley nothing wrong with either account, they are business accounts with plenty of funding.
Talk about a tad insulting!
Why on earth dont they take paypal?
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For a start, make sure you put the correct details in the from for the card.
Talk to your credit card company/bank and stop complaining that it's Google that are at fault. Your CC/bank company is stopping the transaction not Google.
Phone them up and talk to them. If they tell you Google is blocking it then the CC company/bank is lying to you.
Paypal isn't a bank and isn't subject to the same controls and regulations that a cc company or bank are. You also get zero protection, in law, when using paypal. Personally I'd stay well away from them.
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For a start, make sure you put the correct details in the from for the card.
Talk to your credit card company/bank and stop complaining that it's Google that are at fault. Your CC/bank company is stopping the transaction not Google.
Phone them up and talk to them. If they tell you Google is blocking it then the CC company/bank is lying to you.
Paypal isn't a bank and isn't subject to the same controls and regulations that a cc company or bank are. You also get zero protection, in law, when using paypal. Personally I'd stay well away from them.
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Exactly where in my post did I blame Google for denied transactions?
I merely stated facts, and I am also quite capable of fillling in a form or I wouldnt have been running my own business for the last 6 years!
The fact is, that it's not as simple as it should be to buy the phone, I buy goods of far greater value than a phone, and never have any problems, so why the problems buying from Google?
I thought this was a dicussion forum, just wonder how many other people have had these problems buying one?
And yes, I have talked to the bank, and its a security check that flagged up, there must be a reason that transactions are blocked and or checked for Google purchases, maybe its because its the States, most of my buying is done in europe.......
Sorry if i seem to come over a little terse, but then there isnt always too much context within written words....
I can tell you that when I bought my phone, my bank held up the transaction until I called them to let them know I was spending over $300 on a phone. You may want to do the same thing.
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I can tell you that when I bought my phone, my bank held up the transaction until I called them to let them know I was spending over $300 on a phone. You may want to do the same thing.
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Same thing happend to me, except my bank actually phoned me! Shock and awe!
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Exactly where in my post did I blame Google for denied transactions?
I merely stated facts, and I am also quite capable of fillling in a form or I wouldnt have been running my own business for the last 6 years!
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So in your 6 years you've never made a typing mistake?
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The fact is, that it's not as simple as it should be to buy the phone, I buy goods of far greater value than a phone, and never have any problems, so why the problems buying from Google?
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It is simple to buy, you just have to talk to your bank. Once of the reasons is that Google don't use 3D secure which (somewhat) guarantees that the user of the card is the owner of it. CC/Banks like 3D Secure because it passes blame (liability) to the customer (see T&C's for 3D Secure/VBV signup for your card). 3D Secure/VBV is, in truth, total crap. IIRC this was born out in a recent paper from Cambridge University in the UK that did analysis and testing on it. One card company even asked for a NEW password if you got the old one wrong 3 times!
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I thought this was a dicussion forum, just wonder how many other people have had these problems buying one?
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It is but it's not a problem solely associated with buying a nexus one. It applies to all online purchasing.
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And yes, I have talked to the bank, and its a security check that flagged up, there must be a reason that transactions are blocked and or checked for Google purchases, maybe its because its the States, most of my buying is done in europe.......
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It's highly likely that this is the case. We get horrendous issues with Belgian cc/banks that insist on blocking client orders and then claiming it's us that is doing the blocking.
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Sorry if i seem to come over a little terse, but then there isnt always too much context within written words....
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Maybe I was being over sensitive on the issue, I have to deal with cc/banks lying to their customers all the time at work.
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well I tried to buy a Nexus one, Ive now given up, credit and debit card orders refused when there is absolutley nothing wrong with either account, they are business accounts with plenty of funding.
Talk about a tad insulting!
Why on earth dont they take paypal?
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I don't know if it would make a difference, but you can get a debit card for your Paypal account and use it.
Stop using other's people cards. =P
Really though, my order got held up for not having a phone number in the ship to information. Googles checkout/customer service for the nexus has been pretty sub par.
And I've been running a business for 8 years.
eeee by gum chuck, finally managed to get an order sent, checked the shipping info, and they managed to get the postcode totally wrong, with half the address missing.
Phoned DHL, and they were fantastic, changed all the details and made sure they were correct, she told me that they have shed loads of phone calls reference orders from google with incorrect shipping info, even though the correct details were supplied by the customers, so all I will say if you're buying one, is to check and double check every step of the process.
Man I hope the phone is worth it when it comes, i'm sure it will be, quite looking forward to it..........
Sounds to me if it were a "Google" problem, the same bad address info problem would be apparent with FedEx shipments, but only time I've heard/read about shipping issues is regarding international DHL.
Quote from Ron Rule on twitter:
"How is it more 'convenient' to start an app, pick a card, enter PIN, then confirm vs. just swiping a credit card?"
You've got to admit he's got a point! Sometimes phones just aren't the best way to do things. I recently got my boarding card for a flight sent to my mobile as an MMS and it was a pain. It was a good way to show off my lovely SGS2 though! However next time I'm sticking to good old paper next time.
it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
At least here in Croatia debit cards require a swiping, then have to be inserted into a machine and then you input a pin, wait a good 5~10 seconds for a confromation and you're done.
Credit cards require you to swipe the card and wait for the machine to print out a reciept that you have to sign.
So NFC makes a lot sense to me.
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it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
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Most people have 1 card, some more.
It takes MUCH less place having cards, and if you can't take your card out properly, you need brain surgery or something.
For me this is just another marketing trick, like 3D.
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Most people have 1 card, some more.
It takes MUCH less place having cards, and if you can't take your card out properly, you need brain surgery or something.
For me this is just another marketing trick, like 3D.
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i'm just going by the nfc video that engadget showed before, where it had not just your credit card but restaurant and store gift cards. if you don't use gift cards then this is irrelevant to you
the point is that nfc isn't just used for credit cards. for example it was also used to check into google i/o
Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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+1 for now
However I won't deny the fact that having a phone with this feature which I won't use often or just incase IS better than having a phone without it.
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Its not just about paying for things either, you could have a train ticket on your phone linked to foursquare and when you tap to go through the barriers it checks you in at that location automatically.
Or being at places where areas or stands could have nfc so people can get more information like having one at a restaurant automatically puts the name, number and menu on your phone.
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nfc is going to come with next batch of s2 ?
i hav checked samsung's official website and it does not mention nfc anywhere..jst want to know if except korea any other has got nfc ? Like UK,etc...i also read that micro sd's are being made wid nfc support but they dont work in a metal tray.So guessing nfc will be added in our sim's by our respective carriers in the future if at all needed..i mean replace our old sim wid nfc included sim.Please correct me if im wrong,im jst pointing out that nfc takes a very small place and it can be placed even in a sim in near future.So not having nfc must not be an issue UNLESS IF SAMSUNG BRINGS NFC ON THERE NEXT OR 3RD BATCH OF S2 TO INDIA..early owners will be a whole lot of disappointd if sammy does so.anyway i doubt any country would get it 1st of all except korea ofcourse.
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it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
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They already have keychain quick devices that can load all your credit cards onto, and they are free.
Moandal said:
Quote from Ron Rule on twitter:
"How is it more 'convenient' to start an app, pick a card, enter PIN, then confirm vs. just swiping a credit card?"
You've got to admit he's got a point! Sometimes phones just aren't the best way to do things. I recently got my boarding card for a flight sent to my mobile as an MMS and it was a pain. It was a good way to show off my lovely SGS2 though! However next time I'm sticking to good old paper next time.
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Wouldn't it also be an identity theft's dream come true. Your phone #s, social media info, credit card info, all located in one device. Also don't forget what do you do if your phone dies and you need to make a purchase? Or if you drop your phone? Or it gets stolen? Or buy a new phone (have to resync all that crap again)? So it isn't going to completely replace your credit card. Also for the guy that so fumble for your wallet. I guess your phone is in hand 24/7?
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Wouldn't it also be an identity theft's dream come true. Your phone #s, social media info, credit card info, all located in one device. Also don't forget what do you do if your phone dies and you need to make a purchase? Or if you drop your phone? Or it gets stolen? Or buy a new phone (have to resync all that crap again)? So it isn't going to completely replace your credit card. Also for the guy that so fumble for your wallet. I guess your phone is in hand 24/7?
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Actually I was wondering that the other day.
But I think it's worth having seeing as most of us have our hands in our phones a lot of the time, so of course in time, it'll probably become natural to those who use it.
I think that they need is a screen that can take a finger print and therefore NFC is only enabled when that certain fingerprint is on the screen. Sounds a bit far fetched but what are the bets that'll be implemented on phones in a year or two? There's only so many cores you can stick in one CPU
What everyone seems to be missing is that embedded NFC transactions won't just replace the swiping of a credit card, its able to do a lot more to change the way consumers shop and make transactions.
Let alone the multitude of other uses for NFC. People will start to use it for more than shopping as the technology becomes more widespread. Developers just need more incentive to be creative and really unlock it's potential.
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Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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It wouldn't be the first time someone has distrusted a new technology because they don't understand it. No offense. I'm sure companies will start public awareness campaigns to quell this.
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It's another android system waiting to be hacked, bigtime.
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It's another android system waiting to be hacked, bigtime.
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Please, more FUD
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i'm studying electrical and electronic engineering and i'm sure sooner hackers will try hack the NFC to steal credit card details. But NFC is good for health monitoring in the future.
I'm quite sick and tired of taking out my card out of my wallet every time I get on and get off a public transport, its so much hassle.
I would prefer to just scan the phone one one of those receivers since I always have my phone out on the public transport anyway.
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I would prefer to just scan the phone one one of those receivers since I always have my phone out on the public transport anyway.
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I noticed in that google nfc video that you still have to sign your signature on the receiver, kinda a let down imo as paying at the pumps or shopping online you don't need any signature.
Hi looking at all the posts about Knox it's making me wonder if we can use cracked apps on the note 3 if someone can help me out that would be great also does Knox have to be installed because it just sounds like more problems than being helpful??
yes you can. Knox is like a safe, if you take pictures or use any Knox apps in Knox mode they stay in knox . if you come out of Knox mode you cannot view them.
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Jmoney707 said:
Hi looking at all the posts about Knox it's making me wonder if we can use cracked apps on the note 3 if someone can help me out that would be great also does Knox have to be installed because it just sounds like more problems than being helpful??
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Sorry about that will do thank you
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I may be wrong, but he might be talking about modified apps (such as how a google wallet app was needed on non-supported phones), not illegal stuff.
I hate when someone won't pay the (few) dollar(s) to get an app, but will buy an expensive phone. Support developers a**hole
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Ya, especially with a username like Jmoney. Wth.
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mircury said:
Ya, especially with a username like Jmoney. Wth.
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Probably some kid and his dad won't let him use his credit card.
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can we not use this as a basher thread?
What is done is done.
I hate when someone won't pay the (few) dollar(s) to get an app, but will buy an expensive phone.
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I am not willing to pay anything before I know that the software will be bugfree and usable. It's kinda stupid to buy dozens of programs which are not working at all. And fifteen minutes payback is quite a little time to see if the program is what you think it would be. And even if it's only few euros, .. if you are forced to many.. that will be quite a lot of money.
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I am not willing to pay anything before I know that the software will be bugfree and usable. It's kinda stupid to buy dozens of programs which are not working at all. And fifteen minutes payback is quite a little time to see if the program is what you think it would be. And even if it's only few euros, .. if you are forced to many.. that will be quite a lot of money.
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That's why there's a refund period. And most developers extend that period beyond what the play store gives.
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Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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Everyone is an individual. I would agree that more open mindedness is necessary.
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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I use my debit card with Google Wallet without issue.
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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A lot of Americans use debit cards on the Play Store just fine. How? Most any debit card attached to a bank account can also be run as a credit card. We call them "check cards" when they have a credit card company logo and can be run as either. The difference? Running as credit has no terminal fee or minimum purchase (as part of the credit card merchant's agreement), does not require a PIN, works in more places, but often requires a signature, withdraws from your bank/checking account (no credit line), and does not have the same consumer protections (harder to get your money back if stolen or misused). Also, many places only take one payment type or the other (credit or debit) so a check card conveniently works at both.
Most anyone with a bank account can get a check card even if they don't qualify for credit. Is it really so different there?
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I use my debit card with Google Wallet without issue.
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I tried that, no such luck. Our cards only have the account number (9 digits), card number(3 digits) and nothing else. I HAVE no number to fill in to Google Wallet.
Tried using my phone plan, but it asks for a CreditCard Number. Which I don't have. (Hah, good luck getting T-Mobile to issue me a Credit Card. :laugh
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A lot of Americans use debit cards on the Play Store just fine. How? Most any debit card attached to a bank account can also be run as a credit card. We call them "check cards" when they have a credit card company logo and can be run as either. The difference? Running as credit has no terminal fee or minimum purchase (as part of the credit card merchant's agreement), does not require a PIN, works in more places, but often requires a signature, withdraws from your bank/checking account (no credit line), and does not have the same consumer protections (harder to get your money back if stolen or misused). Also, many places only take one payment type or the other (credit or debit) so a check card conveniently works at both.
Most anyone with a bank account can get a check card even if they don't qualify for credit. Is it really so different there?
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That would be very useful. But no, we don't have those. I'm not sure our banks even know of the concept.
We have a Debit card with a 4 digit pin. This is direct withdraw. Maestro, it's called.
For Credit Cards we need to get an additional, paid service (50 bucks a year, I believe. and that's just for the registration, you also need to pay for the card.) with Visa, MasterCard or similar, detached services. They're not directly part of the bankservice.
For instance, I have an account with ABN AMRO. If I wanted to get a credit card, I'd have to apply to VISA or ABN Gold (which then gets me a VISA card. This type of account you can only get if you have a balance of over 50.000 on the account. Which'll never happen. I'm a graphic designer.)
You can't actually pay with a credit card in the shops here. Well, you can, but doing so requires filling out a (paper!)cheque, 25 Euro administration fee and a transaction time of a week. In every shop. For every purchase. And even then 80% of the shops refuse it as a method of payment.
The advantage is that if we ever loose our card (or accidentally put the bill unshredded in the paper bin), people can't empty our accounts without the pin number; with a credit card only the cardnumber is sufficient for payment. (The security code is on the back of a credit card...)
That said, I do have a Prepaid 3V VISA card (It's an alarming shade of pink and can only be charged (pre-charged, it works like a prepaid SIM) up to a specific amount per month, but for Google Play it works well enough. Renting a car, however, has to be done over the course of 4 months.) For the apps I do consider worth the payment. (Apex, Tapatalk, Moonreader, etc.)
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I tried that, no such luck. Our cards only have the account number (9 digits), card number(3 digits) and nothing else. I HAVE no number to fill in to Google Wallet.
Tried using my phone plan, but it asks for a CreditCard Number. Which I don't have. (Hah, good luck getting T-Mobile to issue me a Credit Card. :laugh
That would be very useful. But no, we don't have those. I'm not sure our banks even know of the concept.
We have a Debit card with a 4 digit pin. This is direct withdraw. Maestro, it's called.
For Credit Cards we need to get an additional, paid service (50 bucks a year, I believe. and that's just for the registration, you also need to pay for the card.) with Visa, MasterCard or similar, detached services. They're not directly part of the bankservice.
For instance, I have an account with ABN AMRO. If I wanted to get a credit card, I'd have to apply to VISA or ABN Gold (which then gets me a VISA card. This type of account you can only get if you have a balance of over 50.000 on the account. Which'll never happen. I'm a graphic designer.)
You can't actually pay with a credit card in the shops here. Well, you can, but doing so requires filling out a (paper!)cheque, 25 Euro administration fee and a transaction time of a week. In every shop. For every purchase. And even then 80% of the shops refuse it as a method of payment.
The advantage is that if we ever loose our card (or accidentally put the bill unshredded in the paper bin), people can't empty our accounts without the pin number; with a credit card only the cardnumber is sufficient for payment. (The security code is on the back of a credit card...)
That said, I do have a Prepaid 3V VISA card (It's an alarming shade of pink and can only be charged (pre-charged, it works like a prepaid SIM) up to a specific amount per month, but for Google Play it works well enough. Renting a car, however, has to be done over the course of 4 months.) For the apps I do consider worth the payment. (Apex, Tapatalk, Moonreader, etc.)
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Switch banks. All debit cards have a 16 digit card number.
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Switch banks. All debit cards have a 16 digit card number.
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Not in Europe, they don't.
Our cardnumber isn't the same as the one they use in the US. It's literally just the number of the card, so when you open an account, you always get 001.
It's not personalized.
Open the account, you get:
Account 112234567, Card 001.
Get a new one card after it expires, is lost or stolen, it's:
Account 112234567, Card 002.
Payment over the internet is done via iDeal or a similar service, which requires a cardreader and works withdynamic codes.
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Not in Europe, they don't.
Our cardnumber isn't the same as the one they use in the US. It's literally just the number of the card, so when you open an account, you always get 001.
It's not personalized.
Open the account, you get:
Account 112234567, Card 001.
Get a new one card after it expires, is lost or stolen, it's:
Account 112234567, Card 002.
Payment over the internet is done via iDeal or a similar service, which requires a cardreader and works withdynamic codes.
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I see. Hmmm good luck with that one.
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I see. Hmmm good luck with that one.
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Thanks. Found a workaround (prepaid card), but it's not ideal. (refund costs 10 bucks per refund. Not exactly oleasant for a 0.70 cent app... :laugh
For now we'll just have to wait for Google to get their heads out of their arses, stop moaning about piracy and start realize what the cause of it is. Until then 750 million people will just have to keep cracking.
I registered for the Samsung Pay Beta program yesterday. Today I received a mail that I've been accepted in the Beta Program. I happily started the Samsung Pay app and it showed a new screen for installation. I installed it. The interface looks good. You can just scan the card and it captures the card number and expiry date automatically. Rest of the information has to be filled manually. However, It didn't accept my CHASE or AMEX card. It gives following error:-
Registration failed
Unable to register your card. Try another
card or contact the card issuer. (645101)
Anybody else having similar issue ?
I am having the same problem with both my cards
I received the beta invite as well. The participation details list the qualifying cards. http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-p...ID=0125494973&MKM_MID=&CID=eml-mb-cph-815-975
Bradfordv said:
I am having the same problem with both my cards
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rsfinsrq said:
I received the beta invite as well. The participation details list the qualifying cards. http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-p...ID=0125494973&MKM_MID=&CID=eml-mb-cph-815-975
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Looks like very limited participants are available for Beta Program. I received a mail from AmEx that my card couldn't be added and when I called their customer support, they said the particular Corporate ard I'm trying to add isn't supported to the Beta program, however, it would be available 28th Sept onward (official launch). The Chase however have no idea about Samsung Pay. They said they are aware of only Apple Pay.
I have it as well. It will only work with US Bank or Bank of America (Visa Debit or Visa Credit card). I also tried my other cards just to see if they would work, nothing else is accepted yet. I did call customer service for all of my cards (Amex, Chase, Barclay's, American Airlines CC and Capital One) and they said they will work with Samsung Pay near the end of September.
Looks like Samsung is just minimizing the testing to keep control of things. Worked perfect at Panera with my B of A Debit Visa card. Of course the girl thought it was an IPhone. Knew that was coming hahahaha
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mcmikelw said:
Of course the girl thought it was an IPhone. Knew that was coming hahahaha
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The inevitable... :silly:
I didn't realize this when I used it the other day but Samsung Pay is actually integrated into your lock screen and every screen screen even after you unlock your phone. I previously accessed Samsung Pay through the app as that is how I was use to accessing Google Wallet.
So here is how you quick access it:
Once you turn the screen on, you will see a small tab floating above the home key that says Samsung Pay.
Swipe it up (without unlocking the screen). Choose a card you want to use, then once you want to use it, you use finger print to unlock it. The phone will start vibrating and have some animation on the screen to indicate you can now pay.
If you have your phone unlocked and you were previously using it, you simply swipe up and bam there it is.
I guess in the excitement yesterday I didn't see this. The Samsung pay tab is so small, if you are on auto pilot using your phone you will miss it.
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Im using it as well.. apple pay still much quiker.. id like to see even your phone is locked just tap it and use fingerprint and it will activate. On samsung pay i have to hit fingerprunt twice since my lockscreen is fingerprint
apurva.giri said:
I registered for the Samsung Pay Beta program yesterday. Today I received a mail that I've been accepted in the Beta Program. I happily started the Samsung Pay app and it showed a new screen for installation. I installed it. The interface looks good. You can just scan the card and it captures the card number and expiry date automatically. Rest of the information has to be filled manually. However, It didn't accept my CHASE or AMEX card. It gives following error:-
Registration failed
Unable to register your card. Try another
card or contact the card issuer. (645101)
Anybody else having similar issue ?
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Hi,
What was the reason for your to enroll in the Samsung Pay (Beta) program to begin with?
ad78 said:
Im using it as well.. apple pay still much quiker.. id like to see even your phone is locked just tap it and use fingerprint and it will activate. On samsung pay i have to hit fingerprunt twice since my lockscreen is fingerprint
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Applepay doesn't support MST and there isn't a way for the phone to know there is a MST terminal in front of it. NFC is 2 way which is why it works for that. They could possibly make it work automatically with NFC capable terminals but it would likely just confuse some people about when it's automatic and when it's manual. I don't find it hard to use at all in its current form.
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Hi,
What was the reason for your to enroll in the Samsung Pay (Beta) program to begin with?
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Well, the Beta programs (Samsung or no Samsung) intend to execute a trial run before the actual services are officially released. Would make no sense if nobody enrolls in it, don't you agree ?
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Well, the Beta programs (Samsung or no Samsung) intend to execute a trial run before the actual services are officially released. Would make no sense if nobody enrolls in it, don't you agree ?
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but what's the purpose behind it? does it have the same approach like paypal?
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but what's the purpose behind it? does it have the same approach like paypal?
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Samsung Pay is a payment system which uses NFC and MST. Once you've added your card, you can go to any retailer and pay using your phone instead of your card. If the retailer has an NFC system, you can simply tap your phone onto the NFC section of the payment system and authenticate using PIN/Fingerprint and the payment should be made. Otherwise, if the retailer has traditional magnetic card swiping payment system, just start the Samsung Pay and bring it near the edge of the Payment System where card is required to be swiped. Use PIN/Fingerprint for authentication and the payment should be made easily.
Try googling about Samsung Pay, you'll know more in details.
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Samsung Pay is a payment system which uses NFC and MST. Once you've added your card, you can go to any retailer and pay using your phone instead of your card. If the retailer has an NFC system, you can simply tap your phone onto the NFC section of the payment system and authenticate using PIN/Fingerprint and the payment should be made. Otherwise, if the retailer has traditional magnetic card swiping payment system, just start the Samsung Pay and bring it near the edge of the Payment System where card is required to be swiped. Use PIN/Fingerprint for authentication and the payment should be made easily.
Try googling about Samsung Pay, you'll know more in details.
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I'll stick with the classic way, lol, not too sure how safe is the Samsung Pay. :good:
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I'll stick with the classic way, lol, not too sure how safe is the Samsung Pay. :good:
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I'd say it's significantly safer than carrying a physical card around since anyone could rob you and use it where as samsung pay couldn't be used unless they chopped off your finger when they stole the phone and at that point the cashier would be suspicious I'm thinking.
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I'll stick with the classic way, lol, not too sure how safe is the Samsung Pay. :good:
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We're talking about Samsung here.. You could trust them with your contacts, messages, social media credentials, banking apps and you can't trust them with Samsung Pay. Really ? May be you don't use banking apps (I thought you may bring that up again), and that's okay. It's your hard earned money, I'm sure you know how to handle it better than anybody else does. You might wanna look into Samsung Knox bdw (just for information purpose), its even NSA approved.
codee said:
I'd say it's significantly safer than carrying a physical card around since anyone could rob you and use it where as samsung pay couldn't be used unless they chopped off your finger when they stole the phone and at that point the cashier would be suspicious I'm thinking.
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And even if someone manages to do all that, one can simply call the bank to nullify the transaction. A chopped finger would suffice as a proof! :cyclops:
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I'll stick with the classic way, lol, not too sure how safe is the Samsung Pay. :good:
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I think the toeknization is the real value here. When you go to target and buy something they don't actually have access to your card info, they have a token because the card info stays at the payment processor and is activated by the token. At least that's how I understand it.
Hell, in theory, if target gets hacked and your token is compromised they can do a mass update and scramble the tokens only for cards used at target in the last X number of days.
IMHO this is exponentially safer than using your card at a store. Skimmers are probably less effective too, all kinds of joy with this innovation.
They should of had all major banks on board. So people dont sit around and think about why it may not be safe. Big mistake not not have a feature ready by launch. I have capital one and Wellsfargo and i am waiting not even knowing if they will ever sign on.
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They should of had all major banks on board. So people dont sit around and think about why it may not be safe. Big mistake not not have a feature ready by launch. I have capital one and Wellsfargo and i am waiting not even knowing if they will ever sign on.
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As long as they are VISA or Master Card, they should work. Atleast that's what I understand. Also, there are only limited banks supported for Beta, you should try Capital One and Wellsfargo after 28th.
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dallastx said:
They should of had all major banks on board. So people dont sit around and think about why it may not be safe. Big mistake not not have a feature ready by launch. I have capital one and Wellsfargo and i am waiting not even knowing if they will ever sign on.
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American express, Visa, MasterCard and some large banks are on board - seems to be a pretty good backing and show of support to me. Anyone that thinks it isn't safe clearly has no idea of how the system works because it's actually significantly safer than a standard card.