Is my touch HD slower than others? - Touch HD General

Ok, I use Topix all the time, so I am used to speed and smoothness. (Thanks KWBR!)
But I am trying some WM 6.5 roms with Manila 2.5 and they are all so frikkin slow! But when they sum up the features of the ROM in their start post, it says tweaked for perfomance, smoothness, etc.
But damn, they are all so slow...
EDIT: Have a look at this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qj6Y7XnC4I
It's on a touch pro 2, but much smoother! Same hardware no?

The video is for HTC Leo - 1Ghz CPU...

sunstorage said:
The video is for HTC Leo - 1Ghz CPU...
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But is the device a leo then? I believe they only do a PREVIEW of the Leo's manila, but just on a touch pro 2?
The ROM looks like EnergyROM

yep, its flashed onto a Touch Pro 2. Somehow Diamond2 and Touch Pro 2 look more responsive in manila.

i have blackstone and tp2 both with nrgz leo from 23-09-09 and i personali think the tp2 is much faster and way more responsive dont know how this comes
maybe because of different motherboard ot other chipset

try Dutty's Leo R4 at htcpedia.com....it works great on the HD, only thing is it doesn't have twitter

When I tried Miri ROM with Manila 2.5 all were slow because Manila 2.5: now I'm using Manila 2.1.
Maybe I'll try Manila 2.5 when Official Version will be released with few bugs.
D'rath

currently using miri's latest rom and it is quite responsive but with some minor bugs!! but still a great rom..
what are the Energy ROMs like?? i havent tried them due to complains about battery life i think!!

Forget WM 6.5 on Touch HD
Pfff, last week I was bored on an hotel room and saw a lot of new ROMs from Dutty, Miri, PDAviet, Laurentius26... I had tried ROMs from them for Kaiser, so I gave them a chance.
No way man, all WM 6.5 ROMs are so slow and diffiicult to use... in most of them something fails, QuickGPS / Power properties / Twitter tab / Opera 9.7 text reflow...
I'm back to HTC stock ROM and that's speed, and everything works as expected. I suppose Touch HD 2 with a CPU twice as fast and new drivers, can handle Manilla 2.5 better, but for the moment, I do not see any advantage...

btw i think there is speedy m2.5 on blackstone
well im using nrgz ''leo'' series and i have to say i can use it for everyday
(but tp2 feels a little faster)
not everything works ok as it should like i cant get my location to work(but i can set it up manualy so i use that for the weather on homescreen
installes zenyees cab(really thankfull for this) to disable htc messaging
and further i use the speedtweaks from wvga tweak
for the so called battery problem i get two days by putting the light on automatic and normal use 5 or 6 message and a few phone calls and a litlle interneting
so eveything is fine for me with nrgroms

And I am back again to Topix 3.0
The only ROM series that impresses...

vcespon said:
Pfff, last week I was bored on an hotel room and saw a lot of new ROMs from Dutty, Miri, PDAviet, Laurentius26... I had tried ROMs from them for Kaiser, so I gave them a chance.
No way man, all WM 6.5 ROMs are so slow and diffiicult to use... in most of them something fails, QuickGPS / Power properties / Twitter tab / Opera 9.7 text reflow...
I'm back to HTC stock ROM and that's speed, and everything works as expected. I suppose Touch HD 2 with a CPU twice as fast and new drivers, can handle Manilla 2.5 better, but for the moment, I do not see any advantage...
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I tried Dutty's Leo R4 ROM and found it to be a little sluggish for me, so I went back to Stock ROM like yourself, but then I thought I'd try Dutty's v4.3 WM6.1 ROM with Manila v2.1 after reading some good reviews and I'm glad I did - it's much better than Stock in my opinion and I find it runs quicker in everything.
Plus I quite like the new Calendar tab in Manila v2.1

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Move to General Discussion as not related to rom development

Tried Dutty and PDAViet's version of Manila 2.5 with 6.5 and found them to be way to slow for everyday use.
Now i'm with the Energy ROM one and it's a lot better, it's faster and more stable.

people .. ive flashed almost every rom out there .. if u really want manila 2.5 try mirri winmo 6.1 with manila2.5 its much faster then any winmo 6.5 rom, but i am back to stock rom witn spb mobile shell 3 installed believe me ppl its much better graphically and responsive then is manila 2.5

vcespon: pfff, speak for yourself dude.
I would never go back to a stock ROM.

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What TouchFlo 3d for wm6.5??

Hi Guys
I install a Rom WM6.5 Windows Mobile 6.5 for Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 -[W4X.23+BAREBONE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
this Rom run very fast and all its OK. But I miss the TouchFlo 3d (Rom Touch it)
Im test Touchflo 3D manila (Touch-HD cabs here. full manila HD cab)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154&highlight=manila+3d
I Install this Cab... but its not the same like the rom touch it... this run Slowly and Comunication button respond at the second try.
The question is what Touchflo run nice in Winmo 6.5?
Thanks a lot guys and sorry for the english. I only speak Spanish.
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Hi Guys
I install a Rom WM6.5 Windows Mobile 6.5 for Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 -[W4X.23+BAREBONE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
this Rom run very fast and all its OK. But I miss the TouchFlo 3d (Rom Touch it)
Im test Touchflo 3D manila (Touch-HD cabs here. full manila HD cab)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154&highlight=manila+3d
I Install this Cab... but its not the same like the rom touch it... this run Slowly and Comunication button respond at the second try.
The question is what Touchflo run nice in Winmo 6.5?
Thanks a lot guys and sorry for the english. I only speak Spanish.
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try shadowmikes rom as wm6.5 with manila as well. best of both worlds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505321
another Flash?? I count Five this weekend jajaja poor Xperia
Ok Men Thanks Im Gonna test the Rom.
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another Flash?? I count Five this weekend jajaja poor Xperia
Ok Men Thanks Im Gonna test the Rom.
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thats what this forum is all about. you try everything till you find one that suits you. think you will like this one. everything works. youtube app, manila. rom is huge and has got everything you can think off
stopped count on how many times flash mine testing for Wild Childs roms. W5x out today and we working a surprise for everyone
shingers5 I remember... I test The Rom shadowmikes the Sunday
and I remember the rom brings several Programs i don not use. and this rom is a bit heavy (ram Usage) . Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Thanks again shingers5
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shingers5 I remember... I test The Rom shadowmikes the Sunday
and I remember the rom brings several Programs i don not use. and this rom is a bit heavy (ram Usage) . Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Thanks again shingers5
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new one was released monday 4.5.09. i have used it and yeah it is loaded. fully loaded but it works well. rom you are currently using does not have manila support for it. ya can try jerp's new rom but seems to be issues with it - bluetooth not working and sms issues. ithas got manila as well. also agent 47 has released one with manila too but not checked it out
jerps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511893
agent47
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
not sure of them but agent47 has blue touch -it 7 highlights. you may like it
6.5 & tf3d one package
what i recommend, have tested and like the speed of it, my top 3 and only chefs that has the mix is drumm rolllll
shadowmikes: i like the RC 2.3 175mb as it worked better for me than the new one RC 3.1 200mb file, couldn't even install this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505321
timurs: the 1st chef to do this and his seems to be fastest, only thing is he has alot of programs you might use or not, up to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502641
agent 47: new release it's pretty fast i havn't messed with it much before i flashed again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
im in a mix between these as my choice. timurs and agent 47 file is around 130mb whereas shadowmikes 175mb. i don't know why it matters but i like to have the option of both. i just ended up with itjes v7 as it's lighting fast and im just as happy with it. hope that helps. have fun reading
himuraken said:
what i recommend, have tested and like the speed of it, my top 3 and only chefs that has the mix is drumm rolllll
shadowmikes: i like the RC 2.3 175mb as it worked better for me than the new one RC 3.1 200mb file, couldn't even install this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505321
timurs: the 1st chef to do this and his seems to be fastest, only thing is he has alot of programs you might use or not, up to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502641
agent 47: new release it's pretty fast i havn't messed with it much before i flashed again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
im in a mix between these as my choice. timurs and agent 47 file is around 130mb whereas shadowmikes 175mb. i don't know why it matters but i like to have the option of both. i just ended up with itjes v7 as it's lighting fast and im just as happy with it. hope that helps. have fun reading
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thanks for the answer Himuraken
i test the rom Valkyrie of agent 47 but it was very difficult to install. after the third try the rom run ok. but i remove i dont like for the problem of the begin. dont want to tink a hard reset and this rom.
the another rom Timurs looks great. im gonna try in the night at home.
thanks for the link.
so i understand... a rom is better to install with built in manila
thanks a lot again for the answers guys

Need plain 6.5 rom with just touch flo 3d

hello everybody.
I have been absent for so long time but I was too busy to follow up all your work guys.
I have 2 simple questions that couldnt be answered by a little search I did.
I am looking for the fastest more stable and plain wm 6.5 rom with only touch flo 3d on it.
I am not a heavy user of this pda. It is mostly used as a simple phone and a gps navigator using destinator 7. (i may switch to i-go 8 in the near future)
I really do basic stuff so I really dont need all the nice goodies you preinstall on the cooked roms I have read about.
i forgot to mention that i currently have my touch cruise with
official rom wm 6.1 3.13.405.0 WWE
radio 1.59.42.15
Any help?
p.s. sorry if my search wasnt good enough but I was absent for a year and a half and it seems really difficult to discover the exact things I am asking.
cheerios
hm......i have succesfully installed hard-spl and also succesfully installed latest radio rom 1.59.46.12
i also installed succesfully pcarvalho's rom. now only thing to do is to find a clean 6.5 rom. I saw that installing the driver for touch flo 3d is really easy.
sigh...i feel sleepy now but at least i didnt bother any of you guys with my silly first questions
I'm not a pro here but have been following that 3D driver development for Polaris and tested that TF3D port on my Cruise. Unfortunately current TF3D on Polaris is good only for testing/fun/lulz/whatever and a lot of headache in everyday use (the first second I saw it, I knew I couldn't live with that slowness and bugness every day ).
My unpretentious advice is you better get latest pcarvalho's 6.5 rom (usin it for everyday - works good) and install Manila 2D v2.0 from HTC Mega on top of that. You may also consider the Kostas244-Rom with Manila 2D v.2 already cooked in there. As for those tons of extra stuff - I don't need it either but just don't mind it being there if it doesn't hit RAM or processor time too hard
P.S. My opinion is the dream of properly working TF3D on Polaris will never come true :sigh
Cheers!
thanks for the response mate.
I will try kostas's rom later this week.for now i am pleased in general with pcarvalho's one.
Please let us know how you get on - I would like to do the same thing.
with full wm6.5 coming out now, I'd like a clean light 6.5 too.
Need more memory.
Just the plain stuff, with .net and not so many apps installed, just the defaults from htc like opera and quickgps.

how can i have sense (weather) on my tp2 using only winmo 6.1

Hi,
my os is still winmo 6.1 and i don't really want to upgrade to 6.5 yet (because the next g rom isnt out yet and i dont want a different version). but i do like the htc sense UI with the weather in the middle of the time animated and the colourful task icons.
i want something like this:
http ://www . redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HD21.jpg
is it necessary to upgrade to 6.5 to have this? or can i have it and still have 6.1?
thanks
Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Showtime7 said:
Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
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okay COOL! thanks
but will you tell me what kind of bugs are there? thanks again
AND another thing - will i be able to still keep my old touchflo3d interface (like i can choose either this jacko rom or the one i have now on the today settings), or will this completely change my interface? thanks
Jacko ROM rocks.. I have been using it intensively for a whole week...
and frankly... together with the Tarkim's Keyboard Configuration Apps... they save my TP2 from being dumped into the drawer... You must try it out if you want Sense on 6.1 (I don't want 6.5 too.. as I hate that stupid honeycomb interface which takes away my keyboard quick selection ...)
is there any way to get the sense with the weather without flashing a new rom?? if not is there any way to flash roms on a mac and or unlock my tp2 on a mac? what about backing up/syncing my tp2?

what ROM are you using and why?

There may be a good chance that this thread maybe closed... but I'll ask it anyway...
What ROM are you using and why?
I'm asking as sometimes, reading threads like this exposes people to an idea/function/app/etc that they didn't consider in another ROM...
I'm using BlackSTONEhenge because it's really fast and not too heavy on the memory usage...
korrupt_1 said:
There may be a good chance that this thread maybe closed... but I'll ask it anyway...
What ROM are you using and why?
I'm asking as sometimes, reading threads like this exposes people to an idea/function/app/etc that they didn't consider in another ROM...
I'm using BlackSTONEhenge because it's really fast and not too heavy on the memory usage...
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I was using cloudys rom, this is close to stock, very stable and fast, also low on memory useage.
I used to use his rom on my diamond back in the day.
Now flashed back to XannyTech Grid Leo 2.6 rom, as this rom is perfect for me. Fast, lots of tabs, eye candy, apps installed etc....
I am using XannyTech Grid Leo 2.4 as the version 2.5 and 2.6 seems to be a bit buggy to me.
I'll allow this thread to continue (for now), but I'll move it to general discussion forum as its not about rom development
As for which rom I use....see my sig ......as for why I use it, you'll just have to flash it to find out!!!
Rick
p.s. I have 2 HD's, one for general use, one for the constant flasher (me) who wants to try the latest builds. My sig only represents my everyday rom
I was using T2M rom v23544! It's very nice!! free RAM 60MB....!
Using ROM in signature.
Stable, not too many unneeded programs cooked, all programs I need (see signature) work...
After installation of everything I need I still have over 74 MB program memory free...
Oh, and Manila 2.1, which I like more than 2.5
I use Topix 3.5 wm6.1. Super fast ROM, after restart 68perc free RAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
1.56.405.1 [43972] WWE
WM 6.1 today screen with launcher 79% free ram or 153 mb after reset, don't have to close anything, don't have to soft reset...maybe once a week...if that, most reliable OEM rom I've used in nearly ten years of ppc/WM use.
boring huh....just the way I like it
Occasionally google maps will have glitch where the screen doesn't refresh properly after the sip has been on there, but thats about it
XannyTech Grid Leo 2.4 is used here for the same reason as wind79, but in addition it's the only rom I've come across that can control the song playback forward and backward via volum control when the screen is turned off. XT lost something on the way from 2.4 onward. =(
Any other roms around that do the volume/song selection trick?
I am use:Rom..kwbrs Topix 3.5.10 [Sense 2.5.2012][5.2.21897] without hTC messaging
Stable and good battery..45% memories after softreset. good performances...
I'm using Miniterror's.
I liked Miri's, but something (can't remember now what), made me look for better, tried Energyrom, but the Cookie thing messed with my volume buttons, and was a hassle to fix.
I expected Cloudyfa's to be amazing, but the radio was bad for me and I tried Miniterror on a whim.
I'm very happy. I just wish he included some of the apps (like GPS stuff and the action screen) like in the Energy ROM, then it would be perfect.
I'm planning on going to the current release, but so far, I'm problem free so I'm slow to move...
peter63 said:
I use Topix 3.5 wm6.1. Super fast ROM, after restart 68perc free RAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
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Using this one too. Tried several WM 6.5 ROMs. I do not see what do I gain with WM 6.5 but see clearly what I lose: A lot of RAM and speed.
in Topix 3.5 WM6.1 I start with 35% RAM used and with Opera opened it's on 55%, not 80% like WM 6.5.
BareBones (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972)
6.1, Extremely fast, stable, doesn't include all the stuff I don't need (specifically Manila which really slows the HD, even if not in use), and it's open so I can easily modify the ROM and add the stuff I like!
I wish there was a 6.5 ROM with the same benefits out there, but honestly I'm very happy with my current ROM and don't see much of a reason to change it.
I'm a Dutty rom fan... see my current rom in my signature. This rom seems to endure anything, it's fast, reliable and I found no bugs whatsoever! You just need to take it easy on installing apps and pay some attention to running processes and close useless ones from time to time. With this rom seem to work any Sense 2.5 mod (and I tried allot of them). Oh, I'm not a wm6.5.x follower (don't like that stupid bottom bar, and also that stupidly narrow taskbar) so I'll stick to 6.5, it's more appropriate for our Blascktone.
stock! stock! stock! 1.59.707 (48753) WWE - the fastest ROM I've ever seen
danim said:
BareBones (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972)
6.1, Extremely fast, stable, doesn't include all the stuff I don't need (specifically Manila which really slows the HD, even if not in use), and it's open so I can easily modify the ROM and add the stuff I like!
I wish there was a 6.5 ROM with the same benefits out there, but honestly I'm very happy with my current ROM and don't see much of a reason to change it.
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Hi danim, where can i download this ROM? I went to the link you provided, but can't find the download link...
please advice
energy rom use on my HD why? simply i dont no.......eny beter sugest...
I was using miris until he stopped support for them.
I also had GPS problems (maybe it was my radio...) 5 seconds lock - 5 seconds no lock - really frustrating.
Reflashed with latest radio and energys latest titanium last weekend (I like my HD minimal)
It's got 90% of the apps I need (I added pocket player and SKTools), is super fast, and I get a GPS lock within seconds everywhere now - great because I work abroad (and I get lost a lot).
Miris roms served me well, but this new energy rom is even faster - very very happy with it so far.
optyqus said:
I'm a Dutty rom fan... see my current rom in my signature. This rom seems to endure anything, it's fast, reliable and I found no bugs whatsoever! You just need to take it easy on installing apps and pay some attention to running processes and close useless ones from time to time. With this rom seem to work any Sense 2.5 mod (and I tried allot of them). Oh, I'm not a wm6.5.x follower (don't like that stupid bottom bar, and also that stupidly narrow taskbar) so I'll stick to 6.5, it's more appropriate for our Blascktone.
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I use the same Duttys ROM ....... really fast and stable .... I did last soft reset about 3 weeks ago and my ram load is still only 58% ....... that's why I have always used only Duttys ROM.
P.S. I have tried many ROMs myself, but none so stable.

[Q] Looking for WM6.5 rom with sense 2.1 /2.5

I've been using Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail on my Blackstone for a few months and I love it, in normal use it is fast and stable(i dont remember the last soft reset), but randomly the file system on the device will appear to become corrupted, files cannot be accessed, other wierd stuff happens. the only way to get it working again is a hard reset
can anyone suggest another ROM which uses WM6.5 & sense 2.1 (or 2.5) that is as quick and stable as the one i am using, this hard reset business is quite annoying.
I'm looking for somthing similar to the rom i am using now, I am not fussed about pre installed software, but the selection on Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail is pretty much spot on!
Edit: Ideally i would prefer one of the later releases of Opera 9.x instead of Opera 10.
deejayry said:
I've been using Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail on my Blackstone for a few months and I love it, in normal use it is fast and stable(i dont remember the last soft reset), but randomly the file system on the device will appear to become corrupted, files cannot be accessed, other wierd stuff happens. the only way to get it working again is a hard reset
can anyone suggest another ROM which uses WM6.5 & sense 2.1 (or 2.5) that is as quick and stable as the one i am using, this hard reset business is quite annoying.
I'm looking for somthing similar to the rom i am using now, I am not fussed about pre installed software, but the selection on Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail is pretty much spot on!
Edit: Ideally i would prefer one of the later releases of Opera 9.x instead of Opera 10.
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I was getting bored with my phone Rom and also wanted to sort out a **** up Id made while trying to update Google (which was baked into the Rom)
Last weekend I went from one of Duttys Roms to KWBR's:
http://media.celogeek.com/roms/kwbr/Kwbr_HD_5.7_Sense.rar
I also installed Cookies Home Tab
I've had no problems so far, and I now love my phone again.
Despite having this phone for over a year and a half, I've given up the idea of upgrading it any time soon.
I've just checked and its running Opera 9.7
I've attached a screenshot of my current home screen.
Thanks Don.
I installed this ROM last night and it seems pretty good, i've noticed that it is slightly choppy when you use the full screen weather walpapers, also for some reason now i am unable to use BBC Iplayer mobile, which did work perfectly with the Dutty ROM.
There are a few things that this ROM has which i prefer over Dutty's, mainly the text size can go smaller than in duttys.
with a bit of luck this rom wont suffer from the same problems with the files on the device corrupting. if so then the loss of iplayer and slightly choppy weather animation are a small price to pay.
i highly recommend not using sense 2.5 for balckstone. (no disrespects to devs) i have mine on kenia1234 ROM with wm6.1 which is meant to be faster, but now my clean sense 2.5.2015 is slow... i am no flash junky, i use my phone for important calls text , and it is practically unsuable. i will stick to sense 2.1 or touchflo 3d!

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