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What is your experience with win 6.5 build 11?

Will you please give your experience with win 6.5 build 11.
My experience:
Positives: Very cool: More storage
Negatives: Frequent crashes especially upon installation of new programs. Like I installed new version of spb keyboard, it crashed altogether and I had to hard reset.
It is more slower than 6.1.

i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol

ryanstephney said:
i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol
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Thanks for your reply!
Yes I am also of the same opinion. How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.

well, for me, it works great, except it doesnt have windows live and onenote mobile, i had to download it (except onenote cos i dont need it) on my own... speed is okay, not as fast as wm6.1, startup is slow, the new lock screen, honeycomb and titanium is cool, but the panel for email and text is EXTREMLY BUGGY (they show a X sign and nothing else), album and touchflo 2d seems to respond faster, theres a few bugs but they dont really show up much, the new touch engine (or watever the thing is called for the touch scrolling) is great, but theres touchflo scrolling which makes it really annoying (btw, is there any way to remove the scrolling? i changed the registry but its still there)... but for me, its okay for everyday use...
P.S according to the ORIGINAL POST ON PDAVIET, its based on the iolite rom(i think) and i DONT recommend you guys to upgrade to v12 but wait for v13, so in the meantime, use the v11 rom...
mirchichamu said:
Thanks for your reply!
How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.
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i too am trying to find a way... too bad theres no solution yet to change to original spl...

guys, when you say go back to the original rom, do you mean the version with 6.1? all you have to do is flash your viva again but using the
HTC OPAL ROM 6.1 V05 - Build 21014.1.6.0 version you can find in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494083
That rom is from PhamQuang too

its quite good enough,.. but sending message always notify me delivery report, and get load.... , i cant unchecked the box..

I am switching back to 6.1

MOD! please move to Vogue Upgrading Forum!
I just installed 6.5, but I think I am going back to 6.1
CONS
MD2 is far superior in every way, especially when it comes to email, you can view headers and check multiple accounts quickly, it is much nicer too.
I hate the fact that I cant quickly access my recently used programs.
PROS
it feels a bit faster
Bottom Line
I really think that 6.5 is no big deal, just a bit of eye candy, its funny how microsoft paid big bucks for fashion designers to design some themes instead of investing a couple of thousand dollars for a decent UI expert, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
it is a shame that everybody is going along with it, as if this is the next big thing, it is really a very small baby step. MD2 not to speak of MD3 are far superior in every way.
Have I missed something? What do you guys think?

Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...

kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Really? I am gonna try this. Last time I tried 6.5, I did not see M2D

just try nfsfans v8 6.5 rom, if that isnt a good enough reason for you to keep 6.5, then you need to switch to a crackberry

yup... under the today options...uncheck the default and check touchflo...
I didnt like the 6.5 gui either and went straight back to m2d in the options. Just updated to v8 for 6.5 a few moments ago and the options are there... I believe nfsfan had it in is roms for the last few versions...

kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)

I loved his ROM , it's best of both world, but i mainly use M2D , and also SPB Shell 3 , switch it back and forth.

I switched back to 6.1 simply because I hated 6.5's UI on the Today screen.

joe11211 said:
I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
I was using v6 r2 for almost two weeks and it was rock solid...then i switched over to v8 just the other day and again.... rock solid. If you find it "buggy" in his release you should make note of it so he can work on it and try and resolve those issues...
Personally it feels like m2d w6.1 but faster and more stable. Launching Garmin would take some time before hand, and now with 6.5, is 10x faster...

i dont particularly like the large icon start menu. is there anyway to change it to a smaller view of the icons?

I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.

kei78 said:
Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
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see the screen shot please

joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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that never happen to me i ahve the sprint touch works prefectly
what the.. with the purple thing lol
mine looks awesomee *_*

I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.

Sophos1 said:
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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same thing here... its a problem with some of the themes.. not 6.5
and there is a way to get smaller icons. just seach the forums. its there somwhere in a 6.5 guide

dkl73 said:
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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What versions are you using?
Slingplayer mobile currently has these version that were just released
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Pocket PC 1.6.0.114 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6.0.62 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Palm OS 1.00.22 (US)
* Windows Mobile Downloads (UK)
As for an application not working correctly with a pre-release version of WinMO, thats hardly the Chefs fault as the Application might not have a version to even look at yet let alone develop for
What versions of WinMO 6.5 have you tried - different Chefs utilize different kitchens and different items and tweaks as well so without trying all of them you really dont know if one wouldnt work or all wouldnt
Up to you if you want the time to spend with it I dont use it as if I want to watch television, I watch it, if Im out and cant watch some show or event, well thats what bittorrent or hulu is for LOL
Detroit Doug

joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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have to agree here - thats an incompatible version of some theme on that ROM
Have seen it a few times myself, not the ROM thats for sure as it didnt occur when you first flashed and used the device, just after something was installed
Detroit Doug

Manila v2.5 Running on a HTC Touch HD

When the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 get the Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade later this summer, it looks like they are getting a new version of TouchFLO 3D (Manila v2.5) that stretches the interface a bit deeper and makes it more customizable than seen on the current iteration. If not on the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2, we'll likely see Manila v2.5 on the upcoming Firestone.
Energy Rom TEST version HD manila 2.5
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
For the Home tab, HTC has put forth efforts to bring frequently used tasks to the surface; in this case, the user can place three shortcut buttons that presumably go to a program, contact, or system command. Also, the calendar is still on the Home tab, though we wonder if that section will auto-collapse or simply act as a link.
More screenshots plus a video after the jump!
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It seems that HTC Footprints, first launched on the 2009 version of the Touch Cruise, will make its way to all newer versions of TouchFLO 3D. Footprints lets you associate geographical coordinates with a photo.
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Settings are going to go much deeper. Currently in TouchFLO 3D, there are only a handful of system settings that are skinned by HTC. Now, it looks like most things, down to Program and Storage, Regional, and even Text Input setting are skinned.
new manila 2.5 from firestone Excelent
very fast and now 100% fingerfrindly
more options EXCELENT
The next build of Manilla, TouchFlo3D 2.5, has been leaked, and this video shows it running on a HTC Touch HD. It continuous the replacement of the normal Windows Mobile UI, and it seems all parts of calendar and settings are now subsumed in the software.
Also new is HTC Footprints as an integral part of TF3D.
this is true ???? can´t wait for new Rom with manila 2.5
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321&cpage=1#comment-28932
many thanks
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I really can't wait for this. It really does look great!
I hope dutty gets his hands on it soon and can make a nice stable winmo 6.5 ROM with this Manilia, it would be amazing
Jake

agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!

zoomee said:
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
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excelent but with some bugs to solve ..... just waiting until new realease

nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..

Well if he got it in his HD so could we.. Jeez, cant wait

tetrabit said:
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
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Test versions are out. I think that we'll see it within a week.
Probably won't be that stable for a bit though.
You will need to flash or imageUpdate your phone.

I don't think that is a HD I think that is the Firestone that is shown in that video is it not?

looks like an HD... i tried it today on my HD and it looks good, but it's slow and buggy in spots. i removed it because i need a stable device during the week!

Totally agree with cortez.i, tried manila 2.5 yesterday and at present it is to unstable & buggy with a number of things not working properly.
Once these have been ironed out though..........

new manila
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!

dhborr said:
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
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NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks

masrterk said:
NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
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this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent

Tried the ROM with TF3D v2.5 today...
Great layout and adition of a few new things but as everyone else has already stated it's very VERY buggy! Shame...
Can't wait till it's out and stable, although I am more looking forward to the new Sence UI

Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp

Well tbh, I rather have one working then one bugging....

Aspi914 said:
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
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manila 2.5 cab file? we'd all like it to be that easy, lol. but...you can forget about that. it's a ROM flash only... (for now).

I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.

NeoS2007 said:
I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
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One 0one fix the Sms bug ? and weather ....
new manila is realy great much better then rhodium version

can´t wait for a better and stable version it´s realy fast and a great improve

htc sense

hi guys
i have upgrade my diamond 2 to 6.5 NLD originel htc rom
but i have not the 3 shortcuts on the hometab
what am i doing wrong
how do i get the shortcuts on the homescreen

fjjfrank said:
hi guys
i have upgrade my diamond 2 to 6.5 NLD originel htc rom
but i have not the 3 shortcuts on the hometab
what am i doing wrong
how do i get the shortcuts on the homescreen
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..in the shipped rom htc sense 2.1 is used! Htc sense does not have the shortcuts @the home screen.
You didn't do anything wrong...
If you want the shortcuts you must flash a cooked rom!

...I was wondering the same..why dont we have the 3 short cuts on home screen with the official WM 6.5 for TD2 ??
and why using a cooked rom ? because it seems like the new HD2 will have the 3 shortcuts with original rom, hmmm maybe we will have somethin like an update on the offiial htc website for td2 ?

Shortcuts are in sense 2.5 and this is in some cooked roms only. Sense 2.5 was extracted by chefs from Leo rom I think. In stock wm6.5 there is manila (or sense) 2.1.

prdic said:
Shortcuts are in sense 2.5 and this is in some cooked roms only. Sense 2.5 was extracted by chefs from Leo rom I think. In stock wm6.5 there is manila (or sense) 2.1.
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As has been said, Manila 2.5 (with the icons) was developed with for the next generation of phones in mind. Phones like the HD2 have better hardware to handle the extra funcionality. Remember there is a trade off between function and performance. If you have to have 2.5 then a custom ROM is your only option and to be fair most of them run better than we should expect considering that a TD2 doesn't have the power of a HD2. That's down to the skill of the people developing the custom ROMs, but for me running a Sense 2.1 ROM is a good compromise.
And i HATE the look of 2.5 so it's a no-brainer for me
Edit.. Just to add that the official WM6.5 update brings with it an outdated version, albeit 'official' version of Manila 2.1. The 'sense' version of 2.1 is something that again you will only get in a custom ROM. It is the official 2.1 with some updated components from 2.5 added to it. i.e Weather on the hometab clock. Depending on the chef you can find the balance between function and performance that suits you best. I'd personally prefer to have a Program tab (like in the Dutty R0 2.1 'Holy Grail' ROM that i use), than have icons cluttering up my home screen.

Thanks for your clarifications, I was wondering if there would be a possibility to use sense 2.1 but with old white and black old manila icons with the slider instead of the colored one in WM 6.5 ? like having a file cab to change that ? any info or help would be nice, thanks .

shlomo78 said:
Thanks for your clarifications, I was wondering if there would be a possibility to use sense 2.1 but with old white and black old manila icons with the slider instead of the colored one in WM 6.5 ? like having a file cab to change that ? any info or help would be nice, thanks .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577603
It's being looked into. Unfortunately it seems that most of the effort is being put into customising Sense 2.5 whereas Sense 2.1 is the ginger step-child which is being largely ignored. For the Sense 2.1 users, which i believe is the better option for the hardware spec of the TD2, we have to take what we are given. There are a variety of cooked ROMS using a 2.1 base that have a varying degree of 'Leo' apps cooked into them. (For instance i've seen some using a 2.5 HTC photo album on a 2.1 ROM)
I've been using MaxTTM to remove top and bottom curtains from the Sense 2.1 homescreen but finding 'components' to add to the app which do more than that is almost impossible for Sense 2.1. Again it seems that everybody is jumping aboard the 2.5 bandwagon. For example, if you are looking for a transparent slider that works with Sense 2.1 you can forget about apps like MaxTTM for now.

Clock and Weather WM6.1

Is it possible to have the combination clock\weather on your home screen with window mobile 6.1?

They've been working on that forever... so far it seems you need one of two things... the first being WM 6.5. Second either a Sense 2.1 OR manilla 2.5 rom running. I dont know if they have made any sense 2.1 or manilla 2.5 for wm 6.1. To date, other then flashing to a rom that has those things I mentioned above, there doesnt seem to be a way to get the clock you are asking for.

I should actually point out there ARE ways of having the weather clock... however NOT in Manilla running over a wm 6.1 stock rom. You could try one of the many other UI's out there though. I know that PointUi has this feature... well one of themes/plugins has that ability..... most notibly the Sense theme.

You should give this a go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Tried it myself and it runs very well indeed