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Damnit... now I'm tempted to leave T-mobile. Might be selling a second N1 soon, lol. Can Sprint customers get OTA updates yet?
Thank god for the N1 not being tied to a carrier... In the past you might not have gone with a carrier better for your situation because they didn't have a great phone. I didn't go with Sprint since the "best" phone they had for me was a outdated version of the PalmPre but now the N1 closes all the gaps between carriers and allows anyone to have an amazing phone on any carrier.
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Thank god for the N1 not being tied to a carrier... In the past you might not have gone with a carrier better for your situation because they didn't have a great phone. I didn't go with Sprint since the "best" phone they had for me was a outdated version of the PalmPre but now the N1 closes all the gaps between carriers and allows anyone to have an amazing phone on any carrier.
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Likewise... the only reason I decided to stay with T-mo was because of the N1, and I didn't want to pay $35 more a month to switch to VZW. Now with it coming out on Sprint, it could mean I'd have incentive to switch even with the T-mo ETF.
This gets me excited...Now when will it be released is the question...?...And will this phone gain popularity like the iPhone..?
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This gets me excited...Now when will it be released is the question...?...And will this phone gain popularity like the iPhone..?
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if they sold it in stores yes.
lightforce said:
if they sold it in stores yes.
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Yeah, that's not happening lol.
Still, good for Sprint customers.
lightforce said:
if they sold it in stores yes.
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That is true...Maybe a Google store will emerge somewhere...I am most likely going to get the N1 if it gets released soon..
I believe the Verizon and sprint launch will happen at the same time.
Personally, from my experience, Sprint has the worst customer service out there.
I'm happy w/ my tmobile nexus 1.
N1 available for any carrier so that all can be with coverage/pricing plan they prefer? Brilliant.
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Personally, from my experience, Sprint has the worst customer service out there.
I'm happy w/ my tmobile nexus 1.
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things have changed in recent months/past couple years. I joined the sprint scene in august with the palm pre, and then returned it when the hero was announced and waited the 1.5 months till i could buy it.
ive had my own instances of being involved with customer service, and 9/10 times I really feel like sprint CSR's went the distance at least to make me feel valued. there is one instance where they didnt, but thats about contract dates, and all 4 major carriers are sticklers about that.
do some research on it for the latest reviews on sprint customer support.
back on topic, true story, this user will definitely be one of the first customers for the nexus one on sprint.
This is very exciting news. Development for the Nexus will be strong for a long time to come.
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I believe the Verizon and sprint launch will happen at the same time.
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I hope it happens at the same too...The N1 has the potential to be a great phone...
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Personally, from my experience, Sprint has the worst customer service out there.
I'm happy w/ my tmobile nexus 1.
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As someone else already said... times have changed at Sprint. AT&T has the worse customer service, followed by VZW... T-mo and Sprint are the best when it comes to customer service. I guess the bottom two have to have something go for them, lol...
Sprint Nirvana??!?!?
Finally!!!
Now, N1 or Supersonic?
Fast food gots nothin on SPRINT!!!
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Finally!!!
Now, N1 or Supersonic?
Fast food gots nothin on SPRINT!!!
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Wait to see if the Supersonic will be crippled like the Backflip... Hopefully it will be fully Google.
Wonderful news. I'll be the first to ditch my Sprint Hero for the Nexus One. I am beyond tired of HTC and their antics. A Google supported phone makes me much happier.
Bring it on.
Will they finally stop being dickfaces and allow someone to activate on a Sero plan ?
Thats the only way Id recommend Sprint to anyone. I admit there cellular service is fantastic !...but there customer care left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Wait to see if the Supersonic will be crippled like the Backflip... Hopefully it will be fully Google.
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lol sprint and htc wont do that
and im definitely going for the supersonic..4.3 inches my goodness
In your opinion, which one do you think will come to the HD2 and if you had to choose, which one would you get?
first will come people who should have gotten an iPhone asking when a dumbed down os will be available. giventhe choice, i stay with the ROM that came with the phone, that'swhy i got it in the first place
What I wish would come first is the time when people looking for Android on an HD2 realize that they should just suck it up and get an EVO. But, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
Seriously, though, I think the WP7 port will come before Android.
port
With the extraordinary chefs of XDA my bet would be on WM7 getting to the HD2 first.
My 2 sense....
fhaines
Well seeing as a basically fully working WP7 was already ported and working on the HD2 I would say that one first.
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first will come people who should have gotten an iPhone asking when a dumbed down os will be available. giventhe choice, i stay with the ROM that came with the phone, that'swhy i got it in the first place
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Who pissed in this guy coffee lol
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What I wish would come first is the time when people looking for Android on an HD2 realize that they should just suck it up and get an EVO. But, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
Seriously, though, I think the WP7 port will come before Android.
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Sprint? Like really, over T-mobile? LMAO! I still with the HD2.
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Who pissed in this guy coffee lol
Sprint? Like really, over T-mobile? LMAO! I still with the HD2.
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Like really. Like, I switched to T-Mo from AT&T to get the HD2. <turn off 'like'>
Despite the much sparser network coverage, I sucked it up and made the switch because T-Mo had the phone I wanted. Don't be married to a carrier since they don't give a rat's you-know-what about you as a customer.
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Who pissed in this guy coffee lol
Sprint? Like really, over T-mobile? LMAO! I still with the HD2.
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Sprint's probably got better coverage than T-Mobile. I'm starting to regret switching over to T-Mobile from AT&T for the HD2. I should have spent the $800 to get the australian HD2 and stayed on AT&T. Now I've got a 2 year contract with T-Mobile.
Back on topic... I think WP7 will probably have a port first. I'd like to play around with both WP7 and Android on my phone, but I'll keep WM6.5 as my main OS. That's what I bought the phone for. It'll be awhile, if ever, until there's a stable port of either of them, anyways.
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Sprint's probably got better coverage than T-Mobile. I'm starting to regret switching over to T-Mobile from AT&T for the HD2. I should have spent the $800 to get the australian HD2 and stayed on AT&T. Now I've got a 2 year contract with T-Mobile.
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Sorry to hear that. Wondering why you didn't go with getting the HD2 from T-Mo without a contract. In the long run, it's cheaper and you aren't locked in. You didn't have to pay for the phone in full up front, either.
I did this, bought the phone for $449 and their Even More Plus with Text + Web. No 2 year contract and over the two years, I save almost $240 over getting the subsidized phone and a more expensive contract. If I had the need to switch to someone else, I'll sell the phone and move on.
Are you people serious? You should NEVER switch to a cell phone company for a freaking phone. Look at all the stupid idiotic iphone customers who switched to at&t to get one. How many of them hate at&t because of it. I will be honest, I have sold for S,V,A and now T, and quite honestly it really irritates me to see people treat the industry as a product industry. IT IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY PEOPLE! The products are just a secondary thought, or at least they should be. At&t really ruined it with that craptasatic iphone. I'm not saying it is a horrible phone, but it is not, nor is any phone worth switching to a company that you don't get service with or who has horrible customer service. I would like to see android ported over from the new Sprint phone that is being released so I can duel boot and get the best of both worlds, but F#[email protected] Sprint. I wouldn't have that companies service again if they paid me to.
I'm guessing WP7 will be the 1st port. I'd love to have Android b4 WP7 hits. But, its just wishful thinking I guess.
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Are you people serious? You should NEVER switch to a cell phone company for a freaking phone. Look at all the stupid idiotic iphone customers who switched to at&t to get one. How many of them hate at&t because of it. I will be honest, I have sold for S,V,A and now T, and quite honestly it really irritates me to see people treat the industry as a product industry. IT IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY PEOPLE! The products are just a secondary thought, or at least they should be. At&t really ruined it with that craptasatic iphone. I'm not saying it is a horrible phone, but it is not, nor is any phone worth switching to a company that you don't get service with or who has horrible customer service. I would like to see android ported over from the new Sprint phone that is being released so I can duel boot and get the best of both worlds, but F#[email protected] Sprint. I wouldn't have that companies service again if they paid me to.
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Sure, it's a service industry. But one that happens to have products that use the service. Until all of them make the same devices available across the board, the reality is some will have devices that others don't. And Sprint may be horrible to you, but there are plenty of users who would swear by it and say the same about T-Mo, AT&T, etc.
BTW, it's just a phone.
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Sorry to hear that. Wondering why you didn't go with getting the HD2 from T-Mo without a contract.
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Are you people serious? You should NEVER switch to a cell phone company for a freaking phone. Look at all the stupid idiotic iphone customers who switched to at&t to get one. How many of them hate at&t because of it. I will be honest, I have sold for S,V,A and now T, and quite honestly it really irritates me to see people treat the industry as a product industry. IT IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY PEOPLE! The products are just a secondary thought, or at least they should be. At&t really ruined it with that craptasatic iphone. I'm not saying it is a horrible phone, but it is not, nor is any phone worth switching to a company that you don't get service with or who has horrible customer service. I would like to see android ported over from the new Sprint phone that is being released so I can duel boot and get the best of both worlds, but F#[email protected] Sprint. I wouldn't have that companies service again if they paid me to.
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Nah, it's a product industry. If it were a service industry, everyone would be 4G and rising by now.
Yeah, it should be service-oriented, but everyone knows that these companies make money off their handsets, not their all-in-one plans.
Look at AT&T. They seriously offer a new product now (for only $99!) that connects to your home internet service and "boosts" the cellular signal.
Read that last one again. Yeah, they are offering you a new product because they know their signals suck indoors. And that product uses bandwith on your own internet connection. And they are charging you for it. So, AT&T knows they suck and instead of building their infrastructure, they are actually selling their "solution" to the very people who are already paying exhorbiant prices for crappy service.
Back on topic: WP7 will get ported first, but it won't be a full port. Android is coming, but it has a guaranteed 1 year wait and another 6 months for the bugs to be worked out.
Personally, I can't wait for Android. I ran it on my Kaiser, then my TouchPro2. It wasn't a full-time OS for me, but the app store was too juicy to pass up
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Like really. Like, I switched to T-Mo from AT&T to get the HD2. <turn off 'like'>
Despite the much sparser network coverage, I sucked it up and made the switch because T-Mo had the phone I wanted. Don't be married to a carrier since they don't give a rat's you-know-what about you as a customer.
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Sprint is terrible in my area compare to T-mobile, ontop of that, I've been with T-mobile for 7 years, I'm not gonna switch to a carrier for a phone. I have a jailbroken iPhone... on T-mobile .
I'm just waiting for the day when I can triple boot WM6.5, WP7, and Android. Maybe Quad boot an iPhone OS
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I'm just waiting for the day when I can triple boot WM6.5, WP7, and Android. Maybe Quad boot an iPhone OS
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We can only dream.
Just buy what you want in the first place, problem solved.
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Just buy what you want in the first place, problem solved.
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We would still be trying to improve it.
Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
Doesn't matter to you or me. We've got one of 2 current gen standard bearers (other being the Milestone/Droid) and ours doesn't have to go through a carrier to get OS updates.
All the apps will be built with us in mind, so fewer bugs and possibly more apps. We're basically Android Dev Phone 3. Nothing wrong with that at all. This is a loss for Sprint customers only, and the size of that loss is debatable.
Sucks to be a sprint customer. Will the EVO be better than the Nexus One? On paper, yes.. however that has yet to be seen. Most (or some) of us thought the N1 would be overshadowed by the Droid Incredible but that wasn't the case at all.
EVO vs Nexus One .... coming soon.
I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Good question. If it was Google, I think they bailed just before the vindication of the N1. I am reading about perceived "issues" with the Incredible and Desire similar to those on the N1 regarding 3g coverage. The N1 is a damn fine phone, and Verizon and Sprint users are missing out on an absolute gem with a better forward path than anything else in the hardware queue.
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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Its DEF Sprint's and Verizon's fault the phone was cancelled. Google could easily put in a different radio (like they did with the ATT version) but Sprint and Verizon can just refuse to activate the phone on their network like they did. ATT and TMo didn't have a choice since they use sim cards. Sprint and Verizon are evil companies that force their customers into more expensive options instead of giving them choices
Same reason the verizon deal fell through. both spring and verizon are very controlled networks. Googles wants to essentially turn the cell phone system into an europe-esque system where phones and service are seperate entities.
Each nexus phone has to be programs for verizon or sprint. They probably couldn't come to terms with an appropriate price and management. They'd have to have the phones programmed before being shipped out, one more step and one more cost.
Then you have the headaches of pushing out updates. We saw how long it took Droid to get the 2.1 update. If you want to update a sprint android phone you have to take it to a retail store to do it!
thats a damn shame
sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
down with verizon and sprint they suck. Everytime I saw a sprint phone on that TV show, heroes I thought.... ugh, fags
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales.
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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well, i don't want to get too far off topic, because this is all just speculation. however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
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Post a pic of the chick!
timothydonohue said:
neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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The Samsung Galaxy S would like to have a word with you.
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Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
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I partially agree with the OP here, it would be nice to have this across all carriers, but in all honesty, CDMA is just not something that is well supported outside the US. Having GSM is key since it is more the worldwide standard. I don't think not having CDMA is going to really hurt things for this device.
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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That makes no sense at all. Even if they didn't subsidize the phone, like AT&T, someone could buy the N1 100% with their own money, and then throw their money at Verizon/Sprint for the voice and data plans. All I could see is a net PLUS of subscribers on their networks. Now if someone reallly wants an N1, they'd be thinking T-Mobile / AT&T; a net LOSS of subscribers for Verizon/Sprint.
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however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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Except HTC probably already had the CDMA N1, or was FAR into the development of it. It saves hassle for everyone except HTC, who wasted a lot of time and effort.
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A camera with no flash. 'nuff said.
Verizon and Sprint have a much much more closed network than Att or T-mobile. They wan't entire control of what goes on the network.
I don't think anyone would care because sprint customers would probably be waiting for EVO 4g..
personally, i really liked sprint. i had a heck of a plan with them, i got a lot of free upgrades without contract, and i always had a signal, no matter where i went. i did sometimes have to roam, but i had free roaming, so no big whoop.
i only switched over to tmo for the N1
Some possible good news, hopefully, http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile’s-2011-roadmap-includes-plenty-android
Some bad, predicted news...http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-16/sprint-s-most-likely-buyer-may-be-centurylink.html
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/hotdocket/list
the case numbers like in the middle somewhere, you'll see AT&T
Help me and other users keep prices down and carrier amounts to 4! NOT 3!
Cmon guys, lets all do each other a favor and keep Sprint in business by reporting our thoughts. Remember!!!!!The responses you type, if you choose to respond, ARE public. If you want the merger to go through, and you are on Sprint, I would be curious as to why.
I don't know about everyone else but if this deal goes through, it can have negative effects for us, Sprint users, simply because we would now become the little guy and would either need to raise prices or merge with Big Red.
To be honest Verizon said they would not oppose the merger deal which leads me to think.
That they are either considering a buy proposal for Sprint/nextel
Or they are going to buy some other CDMA carriers.
They would loose their number one spot if this merger happens they must have some other plan to counter act it which would be mergers/buy outs of other companies.
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To be honest Verizon said they would not oppose the merger deal which leads me to think.
That they are either considering a buy proposal for Sprint/nextel
Or they are going to buy some other CDMA carriers.
They would loose their number one spot if this merger happens they must have some other plan to counter act it which would be mergers/buy outs of other companies.
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EXACTLY! I like prices and companies the way they are no need to downsize and raise prices on consumer side...
Since when did the government start listening to what the people want?
Lmao right? ^^^
Anyways Idk if is bad or right, I mean if Verizon ain't tripping then why would sprint trip? If anyone in T-Mobile is there cause of the price then they probably go with sprint anyways
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Since when did the government start listening to what the people want?
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Pretty much never.
This deal is going through you people need to get over it. Just watch.
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This deal will fail, they won't allow a single gsm carrier. Look at satellite radio for example.... oh wait, ****
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Since when did the government start listening to what the people want?
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They don't, this is just pretend.
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NewZJ said:
This deal will fail, they won't allow a single gsm carrier. Look at satellite radio for example.... oh wait, ****
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Lol I guess only time will tell. 3 major carriers will run the U.S. when it happens I will personally pm you a Smiley face and you will know what it means.....
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Good Question
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Lol I guess only time will tell. 3 major carriers will run the U.S. when it happens I will personally pm you a Smiley face and you will know what it means.....
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Not possible it will be 2. Verizon would be stupid to not offer a porposal to Sprint. To operate jointly while keeping Sprint as a seperate company but veriozn owning a majority share in Sprint. This would allow merging of the networks as well as verizon having control of Clear then as well. Verizon would be able to switch the WiMax towers to LTE easily as well.
To be honest They could operate as two different companies and it may be accepted by Federal Regulator Due to running as two sep compaines but merging the networks. Or they Are considering do this with other CMDA operators. Why would VErizon willing become Number 2?
Also the Merger with ATT and Tmo will be accepted;. They Will accept any comprises like selling off part of the Tmo netowrk or SPECTRUM to other carries to bolter the others so it doesnt look like much of a take over.
You peopel are foregeting mergers happen with compromises and This merger deffinetly HAS A FEW that will be made but accepted.
Verizon knows this and may do the same with sprint, or other carriers or use it to buy the networks or spectrum from the company or get involved int eh compromise.....
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Not possible it will be 2. Verizon would be stupid to not offer a porposal to Sprint. To operate jointly while keeping Sprint as a seperate company but veriozn owning a majority share in Sprint. This would allow merging of the networks as well as verizon having control of Clear then as well. Verizon would be able to switch the WiMax towers to LTE easily as well.
To be honest They could operate as two different companies and it may be accepted by Federal Regulator Due to running as two sep compaines but merging the networks. Or they Are considering do this with other CMDA operators. Why would VErizon willing become Number 2?
Also the Merger with ATT and Tmo will be accepted;. They Will accept any comprises like selling off part of the Tmo netowrk or SPECTRUM to other carries to bolter the others so it doesnt look like much of a take over.
You peopel are foregeting mergers happen with compromises and This merger deffinetly HAS A FEW that will be made but accepted.
Verizon knows this and may do the same with sprint, or other carriers or use it to buy the networks or spectrum from the company or get involved int eh compromise.....
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which leads from 4, into 3, into possibly 2, into less competition, which turns into HIGHER PRICES
iitreatedii said:
which leads from 4, into 3, into possibly 2, into less competition, which turns into HIGHER PRICES
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Not true I dont condone this or anhything but
I SAID if verizon chooses to operate as TWO independant companies. you would have the image of 3 companies and Sprint would/may have different pricings still.
Might be a benifit on some sides. While negatives are the possibilites of TOTAl incorpoation of sprint into verizonw hich i doubt would be accpeted but would screw all of us entirely.
Still It is the only way verizon will be able to fight back. And verizon will fight back . AND STRONG.
Also 2 big companies left. offering Similar speeds and the SAME 4G technology will have to fight each other for new subsribers and will have to offer different and better services or fight back with pricings. The prices could go up or they could enter into a price war. No matter what happens there will be mergers or majority stock buyings simple as that.
I'm saying what i think will/could happen. Do you think customers would be able to stop things. Ya right. We are considered expendable.
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Not true I dont condone this or anhything but
I SAID if verizon chooses to operate as TWO independant companies. you would have the image of 3 companies and Sprint would/may have different pricings still.
Might be a benifit on some sides. While negatives are the possibilites of TOTAl incorpoation of sprint into verizonw hich i doubt would be accpeted but would screw all of us entirely.
Still It is the only way verizon will be able to fight back. And verizon will fight back . AND STRONG.
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thats like saying when someone is about to get run over by a car...they can either get run over or not get run over, it's their choice...obviously they are going to avoid the bad one...cmon now verizon will fight back against it and it will have negative effects on sprint because sprint will have to compete too. if their are 3 companies it would make 1 great and 2 poor, the equivilant of 2 Crickets and 1 verizon today...this is why i don't condone it...
iitreatedii said:
thats like saying when someone is about to get run over by a car...they can either get run over or not get run over, it's their choice...obviously they are going to avoid the bad one...cmon now verizon will fight back against it and it will have negative effects on sprint because sprint will have to compete too. if their are 3 companies it would make 1 great and 2 poor, the equivilant of 2 Crickets and 1 verizon today...this is why i don't condone it...
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You are right this is why i think verizon will invest in a majority share of Sprint/nextel for the simple reason of competeing. In doing so if tmo and sprint where bought out or taken over they will have to give up or sell parts of the network of spectrum in which another company will take over the number 3 and 4 spot although smaller. Either way Sprint will be affected. Sprint won't live if Tmo and att merge. They wont be able to compete. It is hard for them even now. That is why i think they will get bought in some method.
oh okay, i must have misunderstood you originally, yeah we need to at least try to stop this merge with our opinions, it can't hurt, i want to be on sprint and have sprint rise to the top
iitreatedii said:
oh okay, i must have misunderstood you originally, yeah we need to at least try to stop this merge with our opinions, it can't hurt, i want to be on sprint and have sprint rise to the top
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True. We do need to voice our opinions but Money tends to buy people at very high levels of the regulatory committies.
Also If sprint could scale its network better they probably would get more customers. As for now Sprint is in a limbo state if the merger goes through sprint will have to be bought by Verizon to stay competing they will just fall apart if they dont. :/ I like the prices they have now it is great prices, good phones.
I would approve of a majority buyout of sprint as LONG as it stays a seperate company. or something like that. As long as we get to keep our plans without a fuss it be fine. But that wont happen so Im opposed of the Tmo merger just because it will force companies to buy smaller ones adn f everything up.
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True. We do need to voice our opinions but Money tends to buy people at very high levels of the regulatory committies.
Also If sprint could scale its network better they probably would get more customers. As for now Sprint is in a limbo state if the merger goes through sprint will have to be bought by Verizon to stay competing they will just fall apart if they dont. :/ I like the prices they have now it is great prices, good phones.
I would approve of a majority buyout of sprint as LONG as it stays a seperate company. or something like that. As long as we get to keep our plans without a fuss it be fine. But that wont happen so Im opposed of the Tmo merger just because it will force companies to buy smaller ones adn f everything up.
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Unfortunately it doesn't look like a bcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy situation if you catch my drift. We have A or Z, no in between
i don't think the deal will go through myself BUT **** if verizon buys sprint at least ill have good service for a change.
Uh looks like the merger might not be happening after all! Wow big news. The Sprint / TMOBUS may happen if this falls through.
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Sad news indeed.
wow... this is EXCELLENT news.
what's really saddening to me, though, is that I truly believed that my government would allow for this merger to occur. that says a lot about my faith in those who I've elected to represent my country. oh well, at least (for once), it looks like the gov't will be favoring the people over big business... that's refreshing.
MartyLK said:
Sad news indeed.
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This is good news for us T-MO users! We don't want AT&T bringing their bad customer service over here and their shoddy rate plans and bad business. If they win, then AT&T users will benefit more, leaching from tmobile's data network. Let att expand by themselves no one wants to be forced into something they didn't pay for. Plus if they join, they'll be too many Iphones clogging the data streams, slowing down the HD video calls, people rarely use.
FYI this does not make the deal completely dead yet, the FCC would still have to rule on it! So this merger still has a chance, just not a good one.
I myself am really hoping this deal goes through!
shogunmark said:
FYI this does not make the deal completely dead yet, the FCC would still have to rule on it! So this merger still has a chance, just not a good one.
I myself am really hoping this deal goes through!
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We'll both hope.
shogunmark said:
FYI this does not make the deal completely dead yet, the FCC would still have to rule on it! So this merger still has a chance, just not a good one.
I myself am really hoping this deal goes through!
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They need to hurry it up and just cancel this already, this will leave only AT&T as the main provider for GSM phones in the US! That's not a good thing, there will be less variety for the consumer and less competition for AT&T....AT&T went down the drain as soon as it brought Cingular back in the day, I would never use them again, I rather go back to Sprint. We'll be stuck with limited data, high rates, high rates, and extremely high taxes and rates. Why can't DTE or whatever realize this isn't good for competition and the consumers?
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We'll both hope.
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We are certainly the minority!
Ace42 said:
They need to hurry it up and just cancel this already, this will leave only AT&T as the main provider for GSM phones in the US! That's not a good thing, there will be less variety for the consumer and less competition for AT&T....AT&T went down the drain as soon as it brought Cingular back in the day, I would never use them again, I rather go back to Sprint.
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AT&T never actually bought Cingular. Cingular was part of the AT&T conglomerate all along. The only thing that was done was a name change from Cingular to AT&T. If you go into the APN settings of an AT&T phone, you'll still see the Cingular name.
But Cingular did buy out Cellular One.
shogunmark said:
We are certainly the minority!
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...because it is blatantly anti-competitive and a deal that was struck with no intention of bettering the industry with the consumer in mind.
I guess if you like kissing big businesses' asses and fanning their executives with exotic leaves while feeding them grapes from gold-plated platters this might be the type of merger you'd support, but other than that... really?
MartyLK said:
AT&T never actually bought Cingular. Cingular was part of the AT&T conglomerate all along. The only thing that was done was a name change from Cingular to AT&T. If you go into the APN settings of an AT&T phone, you'll still see the Cingular name.
But Cingular did buy out Cellular One.
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But Cingular merged and is now under AT&T, I'm sure they replaced the cingular employees during their take over, I'm sure the same will happen if T-mobile is taken too-even more people could end up w/o jobs. I'm aware if they acquire tmobile they'll expand 4G, and will create LTE stations in various areas, which is a good thing at least. But I don't like the rate plans being used by AT&T at all, to get my current plan renewed under AT&T would actually put me at a loss, and probably others that are on Prepaid/Flex-pay.
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...because it is blatantly anti-competitive and a deal that was struck with no intention of bettering the industry with the consumer in mind.
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I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
shogunmark said:
I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
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The network expansion and possible job creation are the only upsides to the acquisition here, but who wants to pay an arm and a leg for their plan? I made a dummy plan to compare rates, and unlimited on AT&T is way beyond 100, compared to the ~75[exc taxes] i've been paying on tmobile. I'm sure Sprint and verizon are cheaper than that too.
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But Cingular merged and is now under AT&T, I'm sure they replaced the cingular employees during their take over, I'm sure the same will happen if T-mobile is taken too-even more people could end up w/o jobs. I'm aware if they acquire tmobile they'll expand 4G, and will create LTE stations in various areas, which is a good thing at least. But I don't like the rate plans being used by AT&T at all, to get my current plan renewed under AT&T would actually put me at a loss, and probably others that are on Prepaid/Flex-pay.
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Cingular didn't merge with itself. Cingular existed as an AT&T division all along. There was no change to Cingular other than the name change. Some time before the name change, Cingular did buy out Cellular One. CO was a completely different company and, no doubt, CO's employees were adjusted.
shogunmark said:
I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
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yep, so it benefits you, the AT&T customer, and screws everyone else... including people who have nothing to do with AT&T or T-MO.
guys, it's really simple:
less competition, worse for consumers. it's not rocket science.
shogunmark said:
I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
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I wouldn't mind a list of bullet points as to why you think this merger benefits the consumer...
Not you, "the consumer".
AT&T would improve it's network? They had an opportunity to do that for $3.8 mil once before and didn't jump at the chance... they didn't care about YOU enough to build up the network they're already sitting on. The writing is on the wall here and even lowly simpletons can make out exactly what would happen... Rate plans = up (for both parties customers), Network = the same with the addition of "some" LTE stations which you may or may not be able to utilize fully and customer service would diminish. If you want the merger simply to utilize Tmobiles network, then go ahead and pay your ETF and jump ship... we don't have unlimited data anymore (in anticipation for this merger, gaurunteed) and the rates have slowly risen up and customer loyalty is already starting to fall.
"We'll add 5000 domestic jobs"....
yea, it's called slapping your ATT signs on existing T-Mobile call centers... lol.
The FCC would be amazing if they get behind this block and it all falls through. At least at that point Tmobile could die a slow death and THEN at&t can pick up the pieces, assuming Sprint doesn't come up with a miracle.
pmcqueen said:
yep, so it benefits you, the AT&T customer, and screws everyone else... including people who have nothing to do with AT&T or T-MO.
guys, it's really simple:
less competition, worse for consumers. it's not rocket science.
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But...but...they have the iPhone
pmcqueen said:
yep, so it benefits you, the AT&T customer, and screws everyone else... including people who have nothing to do with AT&T or T-MO.
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Believe it or not, i am not the only one, sure it benefits AT&T customers, but there are also T-MO people that were looking forward to it as well. So it doesnt screw everyone else!
MartyLK said:
Cingular didn't merge with itself. Cingular existed as an AT&T division all along. There was no change to Cingular other than the name change. Some time before the name change, Cingular did buy out Cellular One. CO was a completely different company and, no doubt, CO's employees were adjusted.
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Okay, so Cingular bought AT&T, and CO, then AT&T replaced Cingular name-wise later on?
http://news.consumerreports.org/ele...umer-reports-cell-phone-survey-att-worst.html
Look at that from last year, I've heard nothing but bad stories of the support from at&t, I don't want to experience it myself.