Flash video help - Hero, G2 Touch General

Hi guys,
I'm not entirely versed in Flash but it seems everything I want to play on my Hero doesn't load. (apart from YouTube, that is.)
I'm in Denmark and I can't play any of the free Flash vids on the BBC website (interviews with football managers etc.), a lot of the more "adult natured" sites don't play, in fact, hardly anything does.
Is this normal? Is there a Flash update on the way so these things (especially the BBC stuff) will actually play? (Market app beebplayer is UK only)
Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
Thanks, in advance,
rdz

This is normal. its not a full version of flash on the hero. Adobe has said that full flash is coming to android sometime in early 2010

Ok. Thanks.

According to this Danish piece, Adobe Flash 10 is coming in October. There's a vid too:
http://androidforum.dk/2009/06/adobe-flash-player-10-kommer-til-android-i-oktober/

does that mean veoh will work with the release?

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BBC iPlayer on HTC Touch HD

Can anyone confirm if BBCiPlayer is compatible with Opera 9.5.
I'm a Nokia n95 8gb user, soon to return to WM when Expansys deliver my early Christmas/late birthday present.
Wouldnt it be soo cool to watch bbc iplayer on this baby!!
Same Here
I am returning back to my WM. I had an iPhone, used for two weeks but did not like it, too complicated, so gone for sale.. now I am returning to my WM and just order my new Touch HD from expansys today. Window mobile are much easy to use and simply the best. I like to see HTC add more useful features on this new Touch HD before final release.
Waiting Time
Thats great. I hope you don't have to wait too long being you just preordered recently.
I know many at xda-dev forum ( including myself ) and elsewhere have been on that one form of preordering list since the phone was made official.
I hope Expansys don't keep everyone waiting too long after they get stock.
not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?
thefunkygibbon said:
not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?
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Yes. I Second that. iPlayer is as much a killer app to me as youtube.
Am I the only one who is keen to use their mobile to watch the BEEB ?
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Yeah I'm massive I Player fan. I used to listen to 5Live every morning in the bathroom with my Wizard and Wifi. I think the Beeb changed something as it suddenly stopped working with Realplayer 1.
I am surprised its taking this long to get a solution for WM for I player. I have just moved to a Diamond and will move to a Touch HD later next year.
I hope anyone doing searches for IPhone apps comes across our discussions about an I-Player... !
I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
born_2_code said:
I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.
Raziel1 said:
strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.
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Just reviewing stock status across a number of suppliers - seems the release date in the UK has been brought forward to the 7th November - maybe even sooner! Both Play and Expansys have revised "ready to ship" dates?
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I have spoken to a friend at orange who says they have sHD stock arriving today for sale on Monday 3rd. He has be saying this all week and is a very reliable source.
born_2_code said:
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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I have a HD on order from Handtec.com and should have it on the 12th (or earlier) - I already have the Raphael and have been testing on a regular basis with Opera 9.5 and the latest Flash release - there was some improvement but its still not actually showing the streaming video?
As far as I'm aware there is still no i-Player codec for either Core Player or Windows Media Player. I think that the issue is one for the BBC to resolve rather than a hardware problem (i.e. once it works it will work on all Win Mob Pro phones that can show video?)
So..... unless HTC have a new Opera version just for the HD (Possible) or have negotiated with the BBC (As Apple have - Unlikely???) to allow the content only on the HD then I think we'll have to wait for the BBC (Aunty for the older Brits on here) to step up and provide either a codec or dedicated mobile player?
Hope my thoughts provide some help and guidance - and maybe spark some more debate?
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I've been trying for some hours today to get the streams from BBC Mobile working with little success.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/index.shtml
If I look at BBC mobile on my X7500 using explorer there is a link showing "Watch Live TV" I can then click on a channel which downloads a link and then launches Coreplayer which immediately complains that it can't do anything with it.
Anybody else had any joy?
Cheers
Matthew
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?
SingaporeAirlines said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?
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My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????
SlashGear.com mentions content from the BBC iPlayer.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-video-demo-and-qa-3121040/
"Q. Can the Touch HD’s Opera browser play content from BBC iPlayer, Hulu or other streaming sites?
A. No. For instance, the iPlayer site loadsbut the streaming video component does not. There is a streaming video app, separate from the YouTube player, but that requires a specific url to load".
Jezwick said:
My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????
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Oh of course - BBC NEWS 24 is a UK only channel as it's paid by us TV License payers. And no one in the UK on this forum seems to have the Touch HD so it wouldn't work.
D'oh !
I think it's just a matter of time before BBC iPlayer works on the Touch HD. They have expanded support for many smartphones and PMP's.
The issue from the BBC's point of view is simply demand - making Iplayer available for platforms like the ipod touch and Iphone is a no brainer since there are huge numbers of those devices in the UK, and their users are very much focussed on video and multimedia. With Windows Mobile the case isn't quite so clear - its users are in much smaller numbers for one, and many - perhaps the greater majority - are simply business users with no desire to watch TV on their mobile, and quite possibly inadequate hardware for the task in any case (since the vast majority of WinMo handsets are not high resolution, big screen devices like the HD). Realistically, the HD alone is not going to significantly advance the cause.
While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.
Kangburra said:
While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.
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Sure, but they have to protect their copyright first and foremost - and ensure it's only license fee payers in the UK who get the benefit - so whatever platforms they support can't be too open.

Flash?

I've read various reviews saying the flash support doesnt work properly or is crap. Can anyone who hs actually tried it on here comment?
I'm tempted to get one tonight!
Also - does the BBCi player work over cellular network or only wifi like the iphone?
Thanks
So far flash support is pretty terrible. BBC flash content doesn't work. Only flash thing I've seen work so far is a little Cyanide and Happiness short and even that was juddery.
I read somewhere that it has Flash lite, which is on par with version 8 of flash. since we are all on version 10 in the desktop world I think it fair to say its behind. especially since the best advances in the latter versions are to do with video. So most video flash on the web with be 9 or 10 so no chance on the hero. Remember that Adobe said they are doing flash for devices stated to come out at end of 09 early 10. for ALL but the iphone...
You see apple would lose quite a bit if people could simply play FREE flash games and not purchase games through the app store.
firedup said:
Also - does the BBCi player work over cellular network or only wifi like the iphone?
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Android isn't officially supported by the BBC iPlayer, but Beebplayer (on the market) effectively spoofs the iPlayer site to send an Android compatible stream that works fine in most cases, including via 3G (your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Android isn't officially supported by the BBC iPlayer, but Beebplayer (on the market) effectively spoofs the iPlayer site to send an Android compatible stream that works fine in most cases, including via 3G (your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah, i'll second this beebplayer does the trick , not the best quality but it works
barryallott said:
I read somewhere that it has Flash lite, which is on par with version 8 of flash. since we are all on version 10 in the desktop world I think it fair to say its behind. especially since the best advances in the latter versions are to do with video. So most video flash on the web with be 9 or 10 so no chance on the hero.
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This sounds crap, dont think I'll bother!
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Incredibly smooth Hong Kong version of the Hero

HTC just announced the Hero in a press conference in Hong Kong today. Given the support of traditional Chinese interface and an incredibly smooth interface, it is very likely that these demo Heroes are running the future firmware that Slashgear reported would be available for download very soon.
Take a look at the series of videos below (they are not taken by me, I didn't attend the event):
Look at how smooth it is when scrolling through the contacts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CABaEfQNqL0
Browser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eoTT74obss
Smoothly moving between different home screens, no lag at all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcwbBjEsyxg
Some more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtsPVXJyLtA
Hero will be on sale in Hong Kong in early September. More or less coincide with the reported timing of the availability of the firmware update(s).
Update:
According to this website
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/?prod_id=3402&tid=29166
the camera app now supports iPhone 3GS' style Tap to Focus function, and adjustable ISO (up to ISO 800)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXemcWjMYeQ
Does this update improve video because like all HTC devices its crap
Maybe you're not doing it properly. Videos encoded for iPod Touch profiles work perfectly on my Hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcwbBjEsyxg
And it seems they have improved the flash support as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRmZCuPjuo
BTW when is this coming to INDIA!! OMNIA is already launched here!!
Definitely MUCH smoother. If you look at how fast the Messages and Mail widgets refresh, you'd see that this firmware works a lot smoother and faster. That said, it does leave me wondering if it will suffer from a slowdown after a day of usage.
karan323 said:
And it seems they have improved the flash support as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRmZCuPjuo
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That video was dated August 12 and the interface was in English, it was NOT running the Hong Kong version of the Hero.
BTW, double clicking the flash element on a website to enable full screen flash typically speed up flash performance a lot, because it enable the phone to ignore other parts of the website.
Are you saying that the HK version of Hero does not have English? I find that a bit hard to believe
ghoonk said:
Are you saying that the HK version of Hero does not have English? I find that a bit hard to believe
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It has. But all the Heroes in that press event were set to the Chinese interface (if you want to waste your time saying that someone switched it back to English, go ahead). The date of the video shows that it wasn't the HK version (if you want to argue that that could be a leaked version, go ahead).
So what's the conclusion? The HK firmware is just BLISTERING quick but no idea if Flash is faster?
According to this reviewer who attended the event and talked to people from HTC:
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/?prod_id=3402&tid=29166
特別一提,HTC Hero 支援 Flash Lite 3.0 ,理論直接支援 YouTube 桌面網站,但其實 Play 上來效果不算理想。HTC 說法是一來 Adobe 給手機的 Flash Lite 3 版本未算最好,二來本來是給予網站的小動畫使用。
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He mentioned that HTC Hero support Flash Lite 3.0, but the performance was not that good when playing youtube video on its desktop website (i.e. not using the youtube app). HTC response was that the version of Flash Lite provided by Adobe for cell phone is not very good, and the flash support is mainly for displaying flash animation on websites.
David Horn said:
Maybe you're not doing it properly. Videos encoded for iPod Touch profiles work perfectly on my Hero.
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cheers for the tip, did a couple of conversions for ipod touch in Xilisoft and the video is indeed excellent now. No stuttering
hmmm... I tried HandBrake and the encoded video using the iPhone/iPod Touch preset looked great, gave a far smaller file than I had previously, but still stuttered.
Using the stock 2GB card.
doesnt seem like it really faster than my hero mines scrolls as fast as that one
is there any leak of this firmware, there but be leaks somewhere if they allready have them built on the phones...
Holy crap that is looking smooooooth and faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast. Can't wait to install this onto my Hero.
EDIT: Would have liked to see the software keyboard in action though - one of my biggest gripes is the intermittent keyboard lag/keystroke delay
BTW, the hardware specification of the HK version Hero is the same as the European ones. According to the user manual available on HTC HK website, the product ID is still HERO100 (North America GSM Hero is Hero130, CDMA Hero is HERO200). So once the HK version is released (Sept 1) and someone dumped the ROM it, it can be installed on current Hero without too much problem. Of course it would be much easier if HTC releases the firmware update on the website.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK8c9Bs581I here's a clip of how smooth video play back is now. I really hope they improve the format compatability to include avi and wmv.
maybe thats a custom made video meant to be seen by the customers only and make them feel that the video play back is good...anyway if this is actually working under the update then i really wish for it to come tomm. as promised...but promises are meant to be broken! fingers crossed!
BTW aany info when HTC is launching hero in INDIA?? its released in hong kong now..so it shud be coming soon here as well...but no date!
I have to agree with the person that said the smoothness isn't mindblowingly better in that version. My Hero is about as smooth if I wait for the clock animation to finish before starting to swipe back and forth. Same with web browser, depending on web site, of course...
My contact may be a tad more stuttery, but I have photos for many of my contacts and it seems to slightly slow down every time a photo contact comes up...
-JJ

Facebook games with Folio

Hello,
I want to buy the Toshoba Folio (in these days the price is going a little bit down) as a gift for my wife.
I have one doubt. My wife likes to play a lot with Facebook games, like Farmville, Frontierville and so on.
Is the Folio powerfull enough to use for that ?
Reading the specs for me is ok, but any comment will be very appreciate, if someone has a direct experience.
Thank you
boscam
I don't play this facebook games as I think they don't worth it. Still I guess for some people and manly casual gamers this could be a nice to have feature on a tablet. They could even be used at work, as they run from everywhere and at anytime.
As they are web based they should run with a normal web browser and you could get a handfull of browsers in Google Market. I don't know if they use flash or even java but both are available for Folio ( Flash support is still beta though). I had played some flash kids games and it worked fine.
I hope that someone that use to play in facebook could help you and give you details on it.
Nope, Farmville doesn't work on FolioMod 1.3d. I tried with Dolphin Mini browser, which seems to run most of flash website, except the Farmville game. Probably I need to update the flash player, because I'm still using the default flash player preloaded in FolioMod 1.3d
boscam said:
Hello,
I want to buy the Toshoba Folio (in these days the price is going a little bit down) as a gift for my wife.
I have one doubt. My wife likes to play a lot with Facebook games, like Farmville, Frontierville and so on.
Is the Folio powerfull enough to use for that ?
Reading the specs for me is ok, but any comment will be very appreciate, if someone has a direct experience.
Thank you
boscam
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I tried some games: mafia wars works ok, kingdoms of kamelot also, but....no way to play farmville. You can accept gifts but not work with the farm screen.
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For now...
No Farmville
No Restaurant City
Yes Treasure Isle
I think things will be better when official flash will be available for Tegra 2
We have the official update from Toshiba now, does it work now?

BBciPlayer

BBC just announced that the new iPlayer for android will be released next week.
Maybe you should of said how it no longer uses adobe flash player and infact uses a new media player created by the bbc,
Which if you visit the iplayer mobile site is already being used,
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Lets hope the videos will be in watchable quality, the quality of the iPlayer app is absolutely terrible, I find myself forced to use the website to watch iPlayer videos on my phone just because the quality of the app makes the videos unwatchable.
JAMIE1000UK said:
Maybe you should of said how it no longer uses adobe flash player and infact uses a new media player created by the bbc,
Which if you visit the iplayer mobile site is already being used,
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Its out in the play store now and it still doesn't need flash but unfortunately it still doesn't run on jelly bean.
I sideloaded flash on mine and just use their website, works fine.
baileyjr said:
Its out in the play store now and it still doesn't need flash but unfortunately it still doesn't run on jelly bean.
I sideloaded flash on mine and just use their website, works fine.
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It does run on Jelly Bean.
Also BBC announced last week after iOS got their update which allows downloading to 'watch later', that Android wold also get this feature 'soon'. Hopefully in next weeks update?
baileyjr said:
Its out in the play store now and it still doesn't need flash but unfortunately it still doesn't run on jelly bean.
I sideloaded flash on mine and just use their website, works fine.
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BBC drops Flash for iPlayer
19 September 2012 11:27
The BBC said that Android remained a very important platform
The BBC is launching a new media player for those who watch its catch-up service iPlayer on Android phones and tablets.
It has previously used Adobe Flash to stream content to Android devices. But Adobe has decided to remove its Flash player plug-in for Android.
The BBC would release the Media Player for iPlayer on Android next week, it said in a blog post.
It has already started using it with the mobile view of the iPlayer website.
"We want people to have the best experience possible when they're watching BBC TV programmes or listening to BBC radio programmes. This means, amongst other things, making them available on as many devices as is practical," said Chris Yanda, executive product manager at BBC Future Media.
He said the decision to go with a "separate application" was down to the "fast-changing environment" of mobile development.
"We are making this change with our eyes open. No technology is perfect," he added.
The BBC has supported iPlayer on Android since June 2010
(News report on bbc news application uk)
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See screenshot
Incompatible with gs3
I do have a working version that uses flash though
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nobnut said:
It does run on Jelly Bean.
Also BBC announced last week after iOS got their update which allows downloading to 'watch later', that Android wold also get this feature 'soon'. Hopefully in next weeks update?
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Sorry I should have worded that better.
The iplayer app is incompatable with the s3 because it still uses flash which you cant run "officially" on jelly bean.
The work around is to install the bbc media player app through the play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...central&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=bloglink
and then view content through the bbc iplayer website instead of the iplayer app itself. Or sideload flash

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