BBC iPlayer on HTC Touch HD - Touch HD General

Can anyone confirm if BBCiPlayer is compatible with Opera 9.5.
I'm a Nokia n95 8gb user, soon to return to WM when Expansys deliver my early Christmas/late birthday present.
Wouldnt it be soo cool to watch bbc iplayer on this baby!!

Same Here
I am returning back to my WM. I had an iPhone, used for two weeks but did not like it, too complicated, so gone for sale.. now I am returning to my WM and just order my new Touch HD from expansys today. Window mobile are much easy to use and simply the best. I like to see HTC add more useful features on this new Touch HD before final release.

Waiting Time
Thats great. I hope you don't have to wait too long being you just preordered recently.
I know many at xda-dev forum ( including myself ) and elsewhere have been on that one form of preordering list since the phone was made official.
I hope Expansys don't keep everyone waiting too long after they get stock.

not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?

thefunkygibbon said:
not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?
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Yes. I Second that. iPlayer is as much a killer app to me as youtube.
Am I the only one who is keen to use their mobile to watch the BEEB ?

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Yeah I'm massive I Player fan. I used to listen to 5Live every morning in the bathroom with my Wizard and Wifi. I think the Beeb changed something as it suddenly stopped working with Realplayer 1.
I am surprised its taking this long to get a solution for WM for I player. I have just moved to a Diamond and will move to a Touch HD later next year.
I hope anyone doing searches for IPhone apps comes across our discussions about an I-Player... !

I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??

born_2_code said:
I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.

Raziel1 said:
strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.
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Just reviewing stock status across a number of suppliers - seems the release date in the UK has been brought forward to the 7th November - maybe even sooner! Both Play and Expansys have revised "ready to ship" dates?
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I have spoken to a friend at orange who says they have sHD stock arriving today for sale on Monday 3rd. He has be saying this all week and is a very reliable source.

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Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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I have a HD on order from Handtec.com and should have it on the 12th (or earlier) - I already have the Raphael and have been testing on a regular basis with Opera 9.5 and the latest Flash release - there was some improvement but its still not actually showing the streaming video?
As far as I'm aware there is still no i-Player codec for either Core Player or Windows Media Player. I think that the issue is one for the BBC to resolve rather than a hardware problem (i.e. once it works it will work on all Win Mob Pro phones that can show video?)
So..... unless HTC have a new Opera version just for the HD (Possible) or have negotiated with the BBC (As Apple have - Unlikely???) to allow the content only on the HD then I think we'll have to wait for the BBC (Aunty for the older Brits on here) to step up and provide either a codec or dedicated mobile player?
Hope my thoughts provide some help and guidance - and maybe spark some more debate?
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I've been trying for some hours today to get the streams from BBC Mobile working with little success.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/index.shtml
If I look at BBC mobile on my X7500 using explorer there is a link showing "Watch Live TV" I can then click on a channel which downloads a link and then launches Coreplayer which immediately complains that it can't do anything with it.
Anybody else had any joy?
Cheers
Matthew

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?

SingaporeAirlines said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?
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My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????

SlashGear.com mentions content from the BBC iPlayer.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-video-demo-and-qa-3121040/
"Q. Can the Touch HD’s Opera browser play content from BBC iPlayer, Hulu or other streaming sites?
A. No. For instance, the iPlayer site loadsbut the streaming video component does not. There is a streaming video app, separate from the YouTube player, but that requires a specific url to load".

Jezwick said:
My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????
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Oh of course - BBC NEWS 24 is a UK only channel as it's paid by us TV License payers. And no one in the UK on this forum seems to have the Touch HD so it wouldn't work.
D'oh !

I think it's just a matter of time before BBC iPlayer works on the Touch HD. They have expanded support for many smartphones and PMP's.

The issue from the BBC's point of view is simply demand - making Iplayer available for platforms like the ipod touch and Iphone is a no brainer since there are huge numbers of those devices in the UK, and their users are very much focussed on video and multimedia. With Windows Mobile the case isn't quite so clear - its users are in much smaller numbers for one, and many - perhaps the greater majority - are simply business users with no desire to watch TV on their mobile, and quite possibly inadequate hardware for the task in any case (since the vast majority of WinMo handsets are not high resolution, big screen devices like the HD). Realistically, the HD alone is not going to significantly advance the cause.

While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.

Kangburra said:
While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.
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Sure, but they have to protect their copyright first and foremost - and ensure it's only license fee payers in the UK who get the benefit - so whatever platforms they support can't be too open.

Related

What software do you plan on using?

Thought this might be interesting given that there would only be two phones that support the 480x800 resolution (other being the Touch HD)
What software would you plan or like to use on the X1?
I would like to see support for:
IM+ or JiveTalk
S2U2 (A_C probably won't make a special version for the X1 so it could work)
SPB Mobile Shell
GoogleMaps
Slingbox Mobile
iDialer
MyMobiler
Good video player to play movies with
What about you all?
Don't expect slingplayer mobile optimized for that resolution, after talking to someone who works for Sling Media he said next down the road is VGA optimization, iPhone support, Blackberry support, then POSSIBLY Android.
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Don't expect slingplayer mobile optimized for that resolution, after talking to someone who works for Sling Media he said next down the road is VGA optimization, iPhone support, Blackberry support, then POSSIBLY Android.
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Yea it will probably be a while before Sling Media makes it way to wvga but it would be nice.
Black You Are 100% correct
Black93300ZX said:
Don't expect slingplayer mobile optimized for that resolution, after talking to someone who works for Sling Media he said next down the road is VGA optimization, iPhone support, Blackberry support, then POSSIBLY Android.
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Yeah, you are 1000% correct, I was invited to certain new beta program over at Slinmedia {cannot call the name at this time}, but I heared the same thing concerning the Xpreia X1 and the HTC Touch HD.
Black as you might know, the SlingPlayer mobile works with the Samsung Omnia i900, but it does not fit the screen right, maybe the same thing with the Xperia X1. I have a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 TV tuner on my home PC that will bring me live satellite TV via DirecTV via the Orb sever client. I can entertain myself from anywhere on the planet, where I can make a Internet connection with my entire Multi Media Library coming to me from my home PC. So their is no problem for me, when it comes to live TV or mobile entertainment on my Xperia X1a............!
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Yeah, you are 1000% correct, I was invited to certain new beta program over at Slinmedia {cannot call the name at this time}, but I heared the same thing concerning the Xpreia X1 and the HTC Touch HD.
Black as you might know, the SlingPlayer mobile works with the Samsung Omnia i900, but it does not fit the screen right, maybe the same thing with the Xperia X1. I have a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 TV tuner on my home PC that will bring me live satellite TV via DirecTV via the Orb sever client. I can entertain myself from anywhere on the planet, where I can make a Internet connection with my entire Multi Media Library coming to me from my home PC. So their is no problem for me, when it comes to live TV or mobile entertainment on my Xperia X1a............!
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I already have a slingbox, but I don't plan to get a WVGA phone anyhow so I have no issues.
You Next Phone
Black93300ZX said:
I already have a slingbox, but I don't plan to get a WVGA phone anyhow so I have no issues.
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Black, what will be your next phone? I'm also looking at the 103 and the 301 by velocity mobile...........!
Technology said:
Black, what will be your next phone? I'm also looking at the 103 and the 301 by velocity mobile...........!
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Hey Tech I was checking out the specs on the 103 and 301 maybe I was lookin at the wrong ones but they didn't look they great sounds like if there worthy enough though could did compare them against the x1
103 and 301 is my second Choice Now Samsung Got A USA 3g Omnia I900L At The FCC
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Hey Tech I was checking out the specs on the 103 and 301 maybe I was lookin at the wrong ones but they didn't look they great sounds like if there worthy enough though could did compare them against the x1
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As you know, the Xperia is still my #1 girl, but I got eyes for the 103 and her big sister the 301, both got TV OUT, that's one feature I want on my Next toy. I know already the USA Xperia X1a version will not be out until Jan. 2009. Another thing I know, AT&T will NOT be carring the Xperia X1a, {That's What I was Told Yesterday}, but it will still work on AT&T's 3g 850/1900 MHz UMTS or they might sell it unlock. So I'm going to leave myself open to make changes, if needed....!
Technology said:
As you know, the Xperia is still my #1 girl, but I got eyes for the 103 and her big sister the 301, both got TV OUT, that's one feature I want on my Next toy. I know already the USA Xperia X1a version will not be out until Jan. 2009. Another thing I know, AT&T will NOT be carring the Xperia X1a, {That's What I was Told Yesterday}, but it will still work on AT&T's 3g 850/1900 MHz UMTS or they might sell it unlock. So I'm going to leave myself open to make changes, if needed....!
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Well that sucks ATT isn't goin to carry it seems like I'm goin to have to get a Tilt a Fuze or get an unlocked X1a probably goin be around 500. That's pretty steep for a phone.
They give any reasoning for ATT not carrying it? I would have a problem switching to tmobile other then the fact that I just switched the wife to ATT

Windows Mobile 7 announced for the HD ?

Hello all, Windows Mobile 7 is announced to be available this year. It seems that it will be a lot more "finger friendly". The Touch HD would fit it very well.
In fact, I'm currently a Kaiser owner, and I planned to buy a Touch HD but I'm a bit disapointed (as always with HTC !!!) about its graphical performances.
Touch HD owners still need to convert video files for the Touch HD to read them at a good speed ... A shame !!!! I had an Axim x50v 4 years ago which was able to read any VGA DivX without any convertion and it was really fast, no lags.
So I can deal with the bad video performances (I already do with my Kaiser ...) but I need a major change in the general usage of the device compared to my Kaiser.
That's why I would be glad to see Windows Mobile 7 announced for the Touch HD, it may be the thing which would decide me to buy a Touch HD.
Does anyone know if HTC plan to upgrade the Touch HD with Windows Mobile 7 when it will be available ?
Thanks !
Windows 7?
Where? I thought was delayed for 2010 and that they will release soon windows 6.5... Did I miss something
In fact Windows Mobile 8 was delayed for 2010 (and maybe later !). What I read so far is that Windows Mobile 7 should be available in the middle of 2009.
EDIT : New news -> you're right, wm 6.5 announced to come before 7 ... 7 delayed for 2010 ...
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In fact Windows Mobile 8 was delayed for 2010 (and maybe later !). What I read so far is that Windows Mobile 7 should be available in the middle of 2009.
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what you read is incorrect. WM7 is for 2010, Q4 of 2009 at the EARLIEST. and to your original question. WM7 may require a different set of hardware to be completely finger friendly, ie no more resistive touch screen. but that's not to say people here can't hack it and port it to a legacy product (ie. touch HD) by the time WM7 comes out
About the date for WM 7, take a look at my EDIT section in my previous post ...
I've already noticed it changed, but thanks anyway ...
About the hardware, I'm not sure it may need a different hardware because it is said that Microsoft developped an application which use the camera as a G-Sensor ... So they may do their best for this O.S. to be compatible with old style hardware ...
So now the question is : will HTC offer a WM 6.5 upgrade for the Touch HD ... Not sure cause it may be there too late ...
Hm, i think the 6.5 will be published in Spring/Summer 09, so it could be possible.
Greets
John
i think htc will offer a update cause t-mobile will release the HD with android so they have to do sth for satisfy the customers with win mobile
kerni said:
i think htc will offer a update cause t-mobile will release the HD with android so they have to do sth for satisfy the customers with win mobile
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Where did u see this.
And sorry to take the air out your balloon
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Where did u see this.
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Fact:
He totaly made that up, there have been some renderings of what the G2 MAY look like and many people took it upon themselves to photoshop The Beast running the Android OS. Don't get your hopes up.
(My) Sepculation:
You'll probably see the G1 come out with 5 more colors, and 10 more OTAs before you ever find out what a G2 looks like.
Sources:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
Not to mention that HTC specifically said that they did not manufacture the Black Stone with a radio module supporting the US 3G frequencies. So I doubt T-Mobile would Market any device going foward as running on G2/Edge
I hope you find this helpful (And sorry to take the air out your balloon)
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I'm not sure it may need a different hardware because it is said that Microsoft developped an application which use the camera as a G-Sensor
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Hmm. Camera tracking applications kill the battery _very_ quickly and obviously don't work in bad light conditions or against blank surfaces with no pattern.
The HD has a g-sensor anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue.
i've also read on numerous websites that theres the chance that t-mobile may be running android on touch HD.
also the HD is definitly coming out on t-mobile in the next 2 months
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About the date for WM 7, take a look at my EDIT section in my previous post ...
I've already noticed it changed, but thanks anyway ...
About the hardware, I'm not sure it may need a different hardware because it is said that Microsoft developped an application which use the camera as a G-Sensor ... So they may do their best for this O.S. to be compatible with old style hardware ...
So now the question is : will HTC offer a WM 6.5 upgrade for the Touch HD ... Not sure cause it may be there too late ...
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the time stamp sais your last edit was after my post. but regarding the hardware difference: microsoft never specifies the HW requirement to end customers because we don't get to purchase the OS. they do specify to the manufactures of the phones. it's the same reason why your PC hardware requirement changes for Windows 2000 and Windows Vista. I'm sure you can some what run Vista on a machine built for Win 2K, but your experience will be limited. So I was just saying that some hackers here can port the WM7 to Touch HD, even though Touch HD is not designated to run WM7.
Requirement wise, I am _speculating_ that it will need a better CPU/graphics chip, amongst other things. the current Qualcomm chip 's graphic capability just plain sucks, the CPU power also isn't the best. Horse power by horsepower, a Qualcomm 500 MHz is much slower than a Marvel/Intel PXA 500 Mhz. I believe WM7 will have more graphics requirement: here's my logic:
- Up till WM6.1 (possibly 6.5), the max resolution supported is 800x480 (which is ok), but he color depth is only 65000, which is low. Iphone supports 262000, i'm sure MS will be going after at least that.
- ever since phones/PDA moved form QVGA to VGA and WVGA, the graphics suffered, and understandbly so. though not microsoft's fault directly. people started saying "my WM phone/PDA is slow" and put the blame on MS. So MS will be clearing their name and restricting manufactures from putting their OS on a non-suitable device
so the above two points just to show you in the graphics department there may be a HW requirement. can you run it on a phone that doesn't fit the requirement? suuuuure, just that the experience won't be as good.
and finally, the news yesterday confirmed my suspicious is that HTC just dumped Qualcomm (not 100% dump though) as the sole CPU/chip provider due to their performance. Given that a product stays in incubation (for prototyping QA, testing, beta, etc etc) for 6 to 8 month before it hits the market. I believe HTC is prototyping the new devices with WM6.5 and perhaps even WM7, and found the performance with Qualcomm chip lacking. hence hardware requirement.
Site your sources.
adsno_1 said:
i've also read on numerous websites that theres the chance that t-mobile may be running android on touch HD.
also the HD is definitly coming out on t-mobile in the next 2 months
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I don't mean to be rude, but what part don't you understand that the the Touch HD has hardware limitation not allowing it to take advantage of US 3G frequencies
If you read my previous post you'll see an official announcement from HTC themselves supporting my comment.
The HTC will not see the light of day in the United States, In the US there are 2 GSM Carriers ATT and T-Mobile
ATT won't relesase because it directly competes (and probably breeches) their contract with Apple
And, when was the last time you seen T-Mobile release a beefy smartphone, the smartest phone they have is the Wing, and that's a joke in terms of Harware.
Site your sources before you make such claims sir.
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also the HD is definitly coming out on t-mobile in the next 2 months
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That comment is a joke, where are you sources.
I guess there are a lot of Wishful thinkers on this thread.
fnordelus said:
I don't mean to be rude, but what part don't you understand that the the Touch HD has hardware limitation not allowing it to take advantage of US 3G frequencies
And, when was the last time you seen T-Mobile release a beefy smartphone, the smartest phone they have is the Wing, and that's a joke in terms of Harware.
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What makes you think he is talking about the US market? There are other countries out there you know
I was told by around 5 people from T-Mob UK retentions that it was in the testing phase, and they could offer it to me around March. This could possibly have been conjecture to try and get me to stay, but if you look at the link below, you will see a trend.
As an aside, T-Mob UK have released all major "beefy" smartphones. - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/all/all/
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What makes you think he is talking about the US market? There are other countries out there you know
I was told by around 5 people from T-Mob UK retentions that it was in the testing phase, and they could offer it to me around March. This could possibly have been conjecture to try and get me to stay, but if you look at the link below, you will see a trend.
As an aside, T-Mob UK have released all major "beefy" smartphones. - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/all/all/
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You're absolutely right, that's my bad!
I actually did forget that T-Mobile is outside of the US, please excuse my stroke of ignorance.
I feel extra stupid because I actually have a German-T-Mobile Branded MDA Pro that I had to replace the keyboard for (to a qwerty keybord)
Me <---- Fail!
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What makes you think he is talking about the US market? There are other countries out there you know
I was told by around 5 people from T-Mob UK retentions that it was in the testing phase, and they could offer it to me around March. This could possibly have been conjecture to try and get me to stay, but if you look at the link below, you will see a trend.
As an aside, T-Mob UK have released all major "beefy" smartphones. - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/all/all/
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Aditionally, you're double right!
Becuase T-Mobile UK does have a history of releasing beefy smarthphones, I just got my ass handed to me.
When it comes to mobile devices (my passion) it SUCKS to be an American.
Everytime I wip out my BlackStone, or even my XDA iis I get some ****-head who says "is that an iPhone?" or even worse "Is that an iPhone imitation?"
So, again, excuse my stroke of ignorance.
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Everytime I wip out my BlackStone, or even my XDA iis I get some ****-head who says "is that an iPhone?"
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HAHA oh man I get the same thing all the time!
The annoying thing is it's surprisingly hard to say "HTC Touch HD" properly coherantly without sounding weird due to the cacophony of hard syllables!
Something interesting to note about WiMo 6.5 and the Touch HD is in reference to Pocket Internet Explorer 6. Microsoft have stated that their new mobile browser won't be released for use on any device due to hardware limitations of current devices - but there HAS been a ROM released by a microsoft developer for the Touch HD ONLY that DOES include the new Pocket IE...
My theory is that 6.5 will be held by microsoft for use on higher spec future handsets only, but the Touch HD will be allowed a possibly semi-official update. (maybe in the guise of a ROM by a microsoft developer like PIE6)
Something else to bear in mind, the Hermes was in mid life cycle when WiMo6 was released and HTC duly released a free upgrade from the pre-existing version 5 so there's a possibility they might do something similar for the HD.
All speculation and hope of course...
Here are some images of what WM7 might look like. Check out the Word 2007 picture. It looks like it has a lot of menu options.
http://cybernetnews.com/2008/01/07/windows-mobile-7-images-leaked/

Flash?

I've read various reviews saying the flash support doesnt work properly or is crap. Can anyone who hs actually tried it on here comment?
I'm tempted to get one tonight!
Also - does the BBCi player work over cellular network or only wifi like the iphone?
Thanks
So far flash support is pretty terrible. BBC flash content doesn't work. Only flash thing I've seen work so far is a little Cyanide and Happiness short and even that was juddery.
I read somewhere that it has Flash lite, which is on par with version 8 of flash. since we are all on version 10 in the desktop world I think it fair to say its behind. especially since the best advances in the latter versions are to do with video. So most video flash on the web with be 9 or 10 so no chance on the hero. Remember that Adobe said they are doing flash for devices stated to come out at end of 09 early 10. for ALL but the iphone...
You see apple would lose quite a bit if people could simply play FREE flash games and not purchase games through the app store.
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Also - does the BBCi player work over cellular network or only wifi like the iphone?
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Android isn't officially supported by the BBC iPlayer, but Beebplayer (on the market) effectively spoofs the iPlayer site to send an Android compatible stream that works fine in most cases, including via 3G (your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Android isn't officially supported by the BBC iPlayer, but Beebplayer (on the market) effectively spoofs the iPlayer site to send an Android compatible stream that works fine in most cases, including via 3G (your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah, i'll second this beebplayer does the trick , not the best quality but it works
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I read somewhere that it has Flash lite, which is on par with version 8 of flash. since we are all on version 10 in the desktop world I think it fair to say its behind. especially since the best advances in the latter versions are to do with video. So most video flash on the web with be 9 or 10 so no chance on the hero.
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This sounds crap, dont think I'll bother!
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TVCatchup...

My mates iphone can go to this site and stream tv in good quality. In case you havnt seen/heard of it yet...its proper uk tv not those ****ty internet streams that have...lets be honest nothing on ever!
Any ideas?
http://www.tvcatchup.com/
(TVCatchup has channels like bbc, bb2, bb3, itv, c4, e4 etc)
seems like skyfire is the only solution just now (just read some some hd2 users saying it works well with wifi)
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seems like skyfire is the only solution just now (just read some some hd2 users saying it works well with wifi)
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I am playing it on my HD2 using Skyfire over 3G and even though is is straight from the website, the picture is not that bad ;-D
just seen your post man, Im still struggling to get this working. It "does play" in skyfire...but wow it is buggy as hell. Even over wifi (on my new hd2 )
It plays 100% on my mates gheyphone...which winds me up a little haha
I have nrgs rom installed which uses opera 10...but i read that you can use opera 9.7 with a flash fix...I wonder if that will make tvcatchup work with with opera rather than skyfire?
AAARRRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGH
btw, sign up to the forum and show intrested in a windows mobile support/app
the more the better!
SPB TV, bro.
i seen that and another mobitv...but they seem to have the worst selection of tv channels
the weather
news
the wether
more news
some weather
are they any good? have you checked out tvcatchup...got it working on skyfire via wifi...3g is no use (at least in my area). it seems they made a specific app/page for iphone users...the stream is prob tailored to their device/resolution...half the size of the hd2 (?) so it will look/stream a lot better over 3g (or at least this is what i think?)
Tv catchup
May i suggest to all of you to forgrt Tvcatchup
try
www.yamgo.com
is best
tv catchup people dont like windows mobile thats why they have made it for iphone
Thankyou! Yamgo is brilliant! Far far better than TVcatchup
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Thankyou! Yamgo is brilliant! Far far better than TVcatchup
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As one of the Admin of TVCatchup let's face the facts:
http://m.tvcatchup.com/ has 28 freeview channels, for most phones including Windows Mobile 6.0 + Yamgo has 4.
Yamgo's quality is like watching something from the 60's, that is allowing for bandwidth problems as well. TVC has it's own optimised page offering low and high quality options.
Yamgo spam everything and make false twitter and facebook accounts and generally pee off everyone. We never spam and have built our membership by word of mouth and reputation.
We have open and free help forums that deal with issues right away, I once sent a support email to Yamgo and got a response four days later.
Sounds petty I know but we are trying to provide a service par excellence and of course I am biased, but it peeves you off with shafters like this.
Rant over !

[Q] Sad to return - PCWorld UK refund?

I love the idea of the Galaxy Tab, but unfortunately due to my eyesight I'm going to have to stick with the Ipad and return my Samsung Galaxy Tab bought from PCWorld UK last Monday.
Anyone got any ideas for the best approach to use with PCWorld UK to obtain a full refund. I have opened the box and used the Tab for a few days, was careful with packaging and have performed a factory reset on the device.
If I cannot get a full refund from PCWorld UK then onto eBay it willl go.
I will be first in line when there is a decent 10inch version available.
Mike
If I were you, I'd probably complain that I'm unable to get to full desktop sites of certain websites (e.g. BBC iPlayer) and that was your whole raison d'être for buying a Tab.
Yes, it can be fixed by flashing a later firmware, but you don't know that!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
If I were you, I'd probably complain that I'm unable to get to full desktop sites of certain websites (e.g. BBC iPlayer) and that was your whole raison d'être for buying a Tab.
Yes, it can be fixed by flashing a later firmware, but you don't know that!
Regards,
Dave
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Dave, you seem to be compounding his anger with irrational statements. Why dont you just download one of the 6 other browsers that are availiable online and in the market and which show full desktop sites.
Theres absolutely no need to flash new firmware and a senior member should know that...
He is simply trying to give an excuse to receive a full refund not give a work around for the web browser...
Just a thought but did you try to download Spare Parts and increase the font size through it?
I took my iPad back to PC World and got a full refund after telling them it was no good too me due to lack of flash. They refunded me without fuss.
I'd go with what the other poster advised and say that sites like iPlayer are going straight to mobile view but you purchased it in good faith believing it would do full sites.
I love my Tab, especially now I got full sites working after flashing it
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ftgg99 said:
Dave, you seem to be compounding his anger with irrational statements. Why dont you just download one of the 6 other browsers that are availiable online and in the market and which show full desktop sites.
Theres absolutely no need to flash new firmware and a senior member should know that...
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You seem to have *completely* misread both the original post, and my reply!
As far as I can tell, the OP loves the Tab but can't get on with the 7" screen due to poor eyesight. So, he wants an excuse to return the device that the store will accept given that it has been used.
All I have done is given him that excuse. If he takes his Tab back to PC World and demonstrates that he can't get full fat iPlayer on it, he can legitimately claim that the device is not fit for purpose!
Putting the OPs question to one side though, on the firmware that came with my Tab it didn't work! In order to get full fat iPlayer on the Tab I *had* to flash a later firmware. And yes, I tried lots of different browsers including:
Skyfire
Opera
Firefox
XScope
Dolphin HD
With the shipped firmware, not one of these would give me the full desktop iPlayer site *and* allow me to play the flash content on it. It didn't matter what I set the useragent to, and yes I tried everything.
The problem also came up on lots of other websites (e.g. Carphone Warehouse). In that case, whilst I could get to a desktop version of the site, the moment I clicked on a link it would take me back to the mobile site.
So far, the only known way of fixing this is to flash to JK4 (see here). Note that your firmware may well be different to the original firmware on *my* device, so *you* may not have this issue, but since my device came from PC World, I'm prepared to bet that the OPs firmware is the same as mine, and therefore will exhibit the same behaviour.
So yes, I do know what I am talking about here, and there is most definitely a reason to flash a new firmware!
Regards,
Dave
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He is simply trying to give an excuse to receive a full refund not give a work around for the web browser...
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Agreed. I just find the 10inch form factor of the Ipad screen more suitable for my use. Dolphin HD browser and Skyfire both work great. I have used Spare Parts and applied the compatability fix and also increased fiont sizes.
I am just looking for a reasonable sounding excuse to get a full refund from PCWorld UK rather than a quick sale on eBay where I will loose some moeny.
I find the magnification smoother on the Ipad, plus Angry Birds does seem to stutter more than on the Ipad.
Mike.
ftgg99 said:
Dave, you seem to be compounding his anger with irrational statements. Why dont you just download one of the 6 other browsers that are availiable online and in the market and which show full desktop sites.
Theres absolutely no need to flash new firmware and a senior member should know that...
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I am not angry, I love the Android OS and the open-ness it brings, its the form factor that is not suitable. As soon as a decent full feature 10inch android tablet is available then I will be first in oine for a sale.
I now realise 10ich is my "sweet spot", I am just looking for a reasonable "unfit for purpose" excuse to get my money back within PCWorlds 7 working days refund policy.
Mike
You state BBC iPlayer and Carphone Warehouse as examples of the desktop websites that only show the "mobile" version. Can you tell me any others I can use as examples. My Tab is already "boxed" up, ready to go back to the store. Thanks. Mike.
mike_m said:
You state BBC iPlayer and Carphone Warehouse as examples of the desktop websites that only show the "mobile" version. Can you tell me any others I can use as examples. My Tab is already "boxed" up, ready to go back to the store. Thanks. Mike.
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Not off the top of my head because I've flashed a working firmware on my device now, so it all works ok!
iPlayer is probably the best one though - the mobile site doesn't give you live streams for starters and the recorded streams are low quality compared to the desktop versions.
Yesterday I watched the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix live on my Tab using the "desktop" iPlayer site, and this would have impossible with the stock firmware.
Regards,
Dave
The 10" Advent Vega is coming soon at Dixons (Currys or PCWorld), unless of course they cancel it just like they had to axe the Toshiba Folio 100
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Job done!
Took the tab into my local PCWorld UK store this evening and walked away with a full refund without too much hassle.
Assistant I spoke to was convinced he could get it showing full desktop sites with a change in Settings. When he could not, the refund was very quickly offered.
I enjoyed my week with the Tab. Just being able to stuff content on without Itunes, the camera, android market were all great. in the end the 7inch screen was not right for me.
Roll on a 10inch, Honeycomb Android tablets, if Samsung produce one of these then they a sale again.

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