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Wizard or Universal.. I can't decide!

Hi I'm thinking of getting a new pda/phone but I'm not wure which one to go for... the Universal is very tempting but it's size puts me off a bit... where as the wizard seems ideal in size but I have read several post about how multitasking is difficult because the unit is slow. Any thoughts?

then go with the new TyTn. Its the size of the Wizard with the power almost the same with the Universal. The only thing that is not there is the VGA screen. Other than that, the TyTN has it all, 3G tri-band, decent 2MP camera, etc. Just read about it to make sure its what you look for.

I'm from the UK, is it available here?

http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
Absolutely. Its launched first in Europe, and ppl in the US asked the same question, is it available in the US? =)

http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
Absolutely. Its launched first in Europe, and ppl in the US asked the same question, is it available in the US? =)

Orange do it on their website for 149.99 in the UK, it is known as the SPV 3100.

I have both. For phoning, the Wizard is FAR better. The same stands for the battery life. If you plan to do a LOT of Web browsing (where VGA is important), then, go for the Universal. Otherwise, get the Wizard.
If I were you, I'd get the Hermes though.

What Variants of Hermes are Available in HKG

Hi Hermes Owners!
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Just wanted to know what variants of the Hermes are available in HKG. I'm on my way to HKG in 2 weeks and am looking to purchase a second PocketPC Phone.
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I really fancy the HTC TyTn or dopod CHT 9000 but I like the HTC TyTn more because the CHT 9000 has Chinese characters on the thumb board which is a bit confusing if I'm going to use the device in English.
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The dopod 838 pro is nice and all, but I like the look of the TyTn more.
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So this is the question... are the TyTn and/or CHT 9000 available anywhere in HKG? If yes where can I get it and how much would it be? If they are not available is the 838pro already available, how much is it going for? Of course I'm asking about English OS devices please. Thanks in advanced for any info.
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Regards from Manila

Pards,
Dopod838Pro, CHT9000 and O2 Trion are available in HK. Only the first is the official one (with local warranty) and widespread. All of them are available in English.
I like the O2 trion design, but I dumped mine since it has alignmnet issue and bought Dopod instead, whihc has the almost same design and with local warranty since I live in HK. But the Trion is cheaper...I dont like the HTC and CHT 9000 design...

Bummer no HTC TyTn... so you would suggest the 838pro over the other variants cause it has warranty. However I live in Manila so the Hong Kong warranty wouldn't really do me any good do you think I should wait for the 838pro to get to Manila it would probably take ages and be much too overpriced... We don't even have the 838 here yet officially [they are a lot in the tiangges of V-Mall, I even saw Cingular branded ones but brand new ones are so few]. How much did you get the 838pro there in Hong Kong?

I got the O2 a month ago for 5.2K and the dopod is now 6.1K (on 24 months installment) with 1GB uSD.
I heard that dopod838pro will be released in Manila this month..

Well I don't think they'd accept int'l cards for those installment deals [tried to purchase a notebook on installment last January at FORTRESS and I was told they don't accept int'l credit cards] so I'd have to pay cash I guess. Hmmm 6K for the Hermes... is it AKU3.0 already? I have AKU3.0 [by Ivan] on my Exec and am loving it... I just need a spare phone really but the HTC s620 still hasn't been announced and SAMSUNGs SGH-i607 is slated for an end of the year [possibly early next year release] so I was thinking why not get the Hermes first but 6K HKD is kinda steep for a spare phone, I tried using a v3i as a spare phone but missed the full sync that outlook and windows mobile does... if the 838pro will be out in Manila this month then I might see it here before I go to HKG on the 20th... hopefully they price it competitively. I hear the CHT 9000 is around 36,000 PhP in Taiwan but then again the chinese strokes on the keyboard are very confusing... oh my now I don't know if I should wait for the HTC s620, Samsung SGH-i607 or just get the Dopod 838pro. Also there has still been no additional leaks about the Universal successor [HTC Omni] which was mentioned a few weeks back, I was hoping to see even mock ups or planned specs atleast about that... anyway sectorlord thanks for all the great info really appreciate it.

I just saw the MDA T-Mobile Variants in Mongkok... sells for 4.8K ..
Wow, looks so sexy and the front keys layout and shape is the BEST of all the variants..

Why does the Kaiser get so much attention?

Since I bought my Polaris, a decision between Polaris vs Kaiser based on form factor more than anything and the fact that I didnt think the keyboard was that necessary, I've noticed that the Kaiser seems to be more highly regarded than the Polaris,
Maybe its me, but isnt the Polaris similar specs to the Kaiser???
I also dont understand why the 3D issue seems to be addressed on the Kaiser but not the Polaris - is there different hardware involved?

The Kaiser was here before the Polaris, so this issue was here bevor the Polaris.
But i can't understand why a such thick and ugly device can have so many buyers.

Borizli said:
The Kaiser was here before the Polaris, so this issue was here bevor the Polaris.
But i can't understand why a such thick and ugly device can have so many buyers.
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the keypad is what a lot is users want.

Its cheap with contract, my friend got it for $60 bucks, its well featured for a phone, and keyboard is great for text-ers, plus this phone use commonly along with the wing and blackberrys as a buissness phone. While the polaris is to me niche market phone since its marketing aspect is a eye pleasing form factor and gps. Plus intially at launch it was around $700 USD so it didnt garner much attention compared to the tilt which was subsidized through AT&T and other carriers.

See I was reading this thread: Polaris vs Kaiser
and granted it was in the Polaris forum (!) so it probably had more polaris owners, but the general consensus seems to be its a matter of choice (keyboard vs smaller form factor) but most users seem to agree the Polaris was a better choice mostly i think because of its touchflo performance which I've read in a number of threads, that its a bit of an after-thought on the kaiser and poorly implemented.
But then there's the issue of the 3D drivers which seem to work on the Kaiser but not on the Polaris...

The real reson it's so much more popular is because of AT&T in the United States.
Being that AT&T is the largest mobile provider in the United States they have pushed the AT&T Tilt aka Kaiser. The AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) has been very affordable per say in the United States, which is why it's so popular with US customers.
Around the world the Kaiser is sold by every major mobile provider. Also making it more popular.
The only way for me to buy a Polaris in the United States is to buy one without a contract which would be far more expensive then buying a Kaiser with a contract.
So the reason it's so popular is because of how much supply and availability there is and the price with a contract from a mobile provider.

Well I suppose thats a pretty clear answer - so thank you alltheway
So ARE there any spec differences between the two (minus keyboard of course) and if not why wont the htc class action 3D drivers work? I read on the kaiser forum that the Polaris is missing a .dll file but surely that should not be too much of a problem? or am I thinking too simplistically?

HTC said in an official report that the slow 3d performance is more than just a missing DLL file, which I personally think is bogus, because all they have to do is bridge the gap between MS's Direct3D/OpenGL and the hardware. They claim they'd have to do more software development than its worth, so they're not pressing forward in that area, but they are releasing 3D performance fixes now, and one ROM cook, udK, is baking that solution into his next ROM release for the Polaris.

So officially there is a solution out there for the Polaris?

HtC HD price

Hey there.I am really interested in thid brand.I,d really like to have one.But I dont know much abouy its price.plz help me.and also i want to know about the life of its battery.Is it cool?or like diamond?

what diamond not good ?

The HD is sold at around 650 Euro in Belgium I heard.
+ 1000 USD - approx 28-29.000 Taiwan Dollar - 7.500 Hong Kong Dollar.
Not taken in account conversion rate but price index of last HTC devices sold around here in Asia.

You can see loads of info related to Prices, locations, release dates etc in the BlackStone vendor wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
If anyone knows more dates and prices say it here

the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body of the cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all.keep smiling

Anonymous6372 said:
the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body if he cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all
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It seems odd that you would say this while like nobody on the planet owns a final version yet. Second, neither the casing nor the battery are equal to that of the Diamond.
Differences: Diamond has a 900MAh battery and the HD has 1350MAh which is equal to that of the Raphael. This gives you 50% more power and according to the specifications this indeed results in the added 50% which I almost agree with. Almost being that the processor and radios are the same as on the Diamond so should consume the same amount of power and that would make 50% increase accurate. However the screen is so much bigger that I doubt it, I expect nothing more than an increase of 35% - 40% and still that's welcome.
Now that my Diamond is configured properly and has the latest software, battery consumption is much lighter and I can easily last a day and a half with it, using regular mailing, some internet and some calling. When only calling, it lasts me two days. Turning it off during the night ups it to three days. A 50% bigger battery would make it last over 4 days in that manner, let's say 2.5 at heavier usage.
Second difference is the back of the unit, which is mostly matte and not glossy, making it much less fingerprint prone (only the front side needs to be polished all the time lol). IPhone and many other touch phones get dirty just as easily. What do you prefer? A matte screen would look worse and scratch much easier because it has a texture.

Looks like avg pricing in the Netherlands will be around 570 euros, which is nice Somehow the Raphael sells for over 600 everywhere in the NL...

In Mexico it will cost $1,400US!!!!!! and it will arrive till next year........
I am sure not buying here.......I asked a friend travelling to London to bring me one cheaper.
If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!

$1400 us?! wow... Tough bargain I just updated the Centralpoint release date as it keeps being pushed (29 oct now contrary to the 21 oct initially), probably to trick people into preordering from them. I guess they won't ship before the first week of November either, like the other NL shops.

Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs

ilordvader said:
Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
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Check here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors

the blackstone is at 649,96 € on this french website : rueducommerce.fr/
it's not so expansive when you compare to the price of Xperia (780€)

orb3000 said:
If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
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just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*

In Germany it will cost 619,- euros on Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Blackstone...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1223587885&sr=8-1
I sent my Touch Pro back, if I get my money back I will buy this one

m.schmidler said:
just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
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hahaha LOL
For me using a beautifull/solid/big brick Universal won`t be a problem!
Hope HD w/key can be a reality!
P.d. By the way, Uni fit on my back pocket

I got a Diamond and on that I could really like a keyboard, the additional RAM/SD card slot/etcetera but I liked the Diamond form factor so much I went for that. The Diamond however is very small and as such typing on a keyboard is much easier than on the screen.
The HD however, sports such a huge screen that there is much less need for a keyboard. Also, I think the target audience of the HD really differs from that of the Pro, it is much more iPhone-esque than it is a corporate tool.

for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
£466.98 with US shipping (and tax) included.
what do you guys reckon this is in USD?
i gotta be honest tho, with a device:
being this fast,
having such a large screen,
having such a sharp screen, and
having such a sensitive screen....
so long as I keep using the skin htctoucher and i created for pcmk....i think I can honestly say that I will never even miss a hardware kb for a second.
I had a mogul for a while, then went to vogue (slow, unsensitive, small screen), and i only rarely wish i had a hardware keyboard...

jim256 said:
for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.

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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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hmmm no i personally have not looked into that, but I guess I will be before putting my order in! thx for the heads up

buggybug0 said:
have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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The best way to do that is asking a friend travelling to bring it for you, that way you don´t pay any cent.
Importing I´m sure depends of the qty. of devices you bring, if it´s only one, taxes won´t be that much. And US customs have a trusty/esay way of doing things.

Anyone heard about Touch2 T3320?

Hi,
I was looking for a winmo phone to be updated on the stock quotes. I shortlisted to touch2. But in India, there is a special version named T3320. And this one is cheaper. The spec sheet shows it doesn't have 3G. But the price difference is too high, are there any other differences?
http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/specification.html (Click special version).
BTW, I need something like the stocks tab in HD2 on the touch2. Is there any ROM that includes it? (the stocks tab doesn't need 3d accelerator i guess).

Have checked and could not see any other difference.....you must determine if you need 3G or not. Myself have in my communication manager a GSM/3G switch installed. In most cases GSM is good enough for me. Saves your battery also.
What is price difference actually? Perhaps is in accesoiries?
You can check with a local HTC dealer.

I am in India next week....and usually one of activities on my trips is to check out the various electronics markets.....always on the hunt for something new....
If I have the chance will check and report back.......

I think i saw somewhere it doesnt have GPS too, am i right? I think its connected with the laws there, i said i think i red about it somewhere.

well, GPS is indeed not mentioned at http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/spec_special.html

Here is the reply which i got from HTC Support
Dear Mr. Bhatia,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
To clarify your issue, you stated that: You want to the difference between the Touch 2 models,
In this regard we would like to intimate you that that you can check with link,http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/specification.html for T-3333 and check with the link http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/spec_special.html for Touch 2 t-3320 phone models.
HTC Touch2 phone(model no-T3320) is not a GPS enabled phone and also do not have 3G services while the other Touch 2 phone( model no- T3333) is GPS enabled and have 3 G functionality.
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These are the only two differences that they have told.
Regards,
Naveen

Thanks for the reply guys. My friend has finally bought that phone. I had checked it just once. I didn't quite like it.. this was the first htc device on my hand and I had expected a lot...
The price of the T3320 (the one my friend bought) was 12,500 INR.
Whereas the price of the T3333 (with 3g and gps) is 21,000 INR.
If the only difference between the two phones is 3g and gps, then I'm pretty sure that the touch2 T3333 is definitely not worth its price. It doesn't have autofocus and flash? If my friend had spent 21K and had found out that it doesn't have flash, he would've felt sorry for buying that phone. And touch sensitivity is not bad and not too good. It was okay.
But for 12K the T3230 is a bit worthy. If only it had a auto focus and flash and a 3d accelerator (hee hee hee I know this is too much) for running Touch Flo 3D or HD2 Sense UI.