Hi,
I was looking for a winmo phone to be updated on the stock quotes. I shortlisted to touch2. But in India, there is a special version named T3320. And this one is cheaper. The spec sheet shows it doesn't have 3G. But the price difference is too high, are there any other differences?
http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/specification.html (Click special version).
BTW, I need something like the stocks tab in HD2 on the touch2. Is there any ROM that includes it? (the stocks tab doesn't need 3d accelerator i guess).
Have checked and could not see any other difference.....you must determine if you need 3G or not. Myself have in my communication manager a GSM/3G switch installed. In most cases GSM is good enough for me. Saves your battery also.
What is price difference actually? Perhaps is in accesoiries?
You can check with a local HTC dealer.
I am in India next week....and usually one of activities on my trips is to check out the various electronics markets.....always on the hunt for something new....
If I have the chance will check and report back.......
I think i saw somewhere it doesnt have GPS too, am i right? I think its connected with the laws there, i said i think i red about it somewhere.
well, GPS is indeed not mentioned at http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/spec_special.html
Here is the reply which i got from HTC Support
Dear Mr. Bhatia,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
To clarify your issue, you stated that: You want to the difference between the Touch 2 models,
In this regard we would like to intimate you that that you can check with link,http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/specification.html for T-3333 and check with the link http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/spec_special.html for Touch 2 t-3320 phone models.
HTC Touch2 phone(model no-T3320) is not a GPS enabled phone and also do not have 3G services while the other Touch 2 phone( model no- T3333) is GPS enabled and have 3 G functionality.
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These are the only two differences that they have told.
Regards,
Naveen
Thanks for the reply guys. My friend has finally bought that phone. I had checked it just once. I didn't quite like it.. this was the first htc device on my hand and I had expected a lot...
The price of the T3320 (the one my friend bought) was 12,500 INR.
Whereas the price of the T3333 (with 3g and gps) is 21,000 INR.
If the only difference between the two phones is 3g and gps, then I'm pretty sure that the touch2 T3333 is definitely not worth its price. It doesn't have autofocus and flash? If my friend had spent 21K and had found out that it doesn't have flash, he would've felt sorry for buying that phone. And touch sensitivity is not bad and not too good. It was okay.
But for 12K the T3230 is a bit worthy. If only it had a auto focus and flash and a 3d accelerator (hee hee hee I know this is too much) for running Touch Flo 3D or HD2 Sense UI.
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought the Cingular service (8525 too) to compare to Verizon/Sprint - and needless to sayt stuck with it. Especially after applying the 3DES rom and trinity 1.35 radio - it rocks! BUT then I started reading more and more of the wiki and got to thinking.
Which is the best model to own? I still have 2 weeks to take this model back and buy another Hermes. I really want the front facing vga cam - and if an antenna mod comes out for GPS - I would like to be equiped with the best chance of getting the mod.
Can I get some opinions? Oh, side note - I travel europe1-2 months a year, if I do stay with the Cingular phone I have now - since it is mod'ed do I need to do anything different?
thanks
All the Hermes/TyTN models are more or less identical internally, apart from minor operator-specific hardware differences. Your's being a Cingular 8525 so I assume that it is missing the front camera. Most other models come with the camera. Apart from that, only the housing differs. More on this in the wiki.
You should not ask which Hermes model to choose but instead "Hermes or some other model, such as the i-mate Ultimate 7150" . . .
As Abubasim says, the models are all almost identical except the fromt camera. If you want a camera change the phone (if it won't cost you) otherwise no reason to change it.
As for using it overseas, I have the Vodafone VPA1605. I travel Europe, Americas and Asia. I use radio 1.38.00.10 and have no problems anywhere with it.
feareddevil said:
Hi everyone,
I recently bought the Cingular service (8525 too) to compare to Verizon/Sprint - and needless to sayt stuck with it. Especially after applying the 3DES rom and trinity 1.35 radio - it rocks! BUT then I started reading more and more of the wiki and got to thinking.
Which is the best model to own? I still have 2 weeks to take this model back and buy another Hermes. I really want the front facing vga cam - and if an antenna mod comes out for GPS - I would like to be equiped with the best chance of getting the mod.
Can I get some opinions? Oh, side note - I travel europe1-2 months a year, if I do stay with the Cingular phone I have now - since it is mod'ed do I need to do anything different?
thanks
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thanks - Yes my main reason for changing would be for the ability to have a front facing camera and GPS capabilities. While I have read the GPS FAQ (being antenna crippled) - I believe the GPS in the unit is just fine and when paired with the UMTS data (which can provide up to 50m accuracy) - it will be a fully functioning GPS (capable of locking) - even without the antenna.
Unless anyone suggests another phone that already has the same great features + GPS operating, I will move to the TyTN
Hey everyone,
I've decided to start a post on this cuz i haven't been about to find much on this recently released phone from telus (a canadian carrier). I currently have an HTC TyTN. However, the touchscreen is completely dead. Since this phone isn't sold by any canadian carriers, it's virtually impossible to get it repaired let alone replaced.
I've recently come across the Telus HTC P4000 which was officially launced by telus in april. I noticed the specs are very similar to that of the TyTN except for the following:
-A CDMA phone without a sim card slot.
-256 mb rom vs 128 mb rom
-64 mb sdram vs 64 mb ram? (**i dunno if the hermes ram is SD)
-a QUALCOMM MSM7500, 384 MHz CPU vs a Samsung 400 MHz CPU.
I'm thinking of selling my X01HT and signing up with telus and grabbing that phone. I could really use some feedback on this idea from my fellow Hermes owners. And could use some help measuring the pros and cons.
So far the major CON of going to this phone would be that it's slightly slower and looks to have ZERO upgradability in terms of OS, RADIO, or any type of rom flashing. Meaning no sweet WM6 upgrades from custel or jasjamming or any of the other cool chefs...
Here are some links:
http://www.telusmobility.com/content/clientcare/pcs_east/guides/htc_p4000/htc_p4000.pdf
-user manual (specs can be found here as well)
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/04/17/the-htc-p4000-for-telus-in-the-flesh/
-engadgetmobile article on this phone
Any feedback or thoughts would be great. Thanks guys...
I din't know how much money you want to spend, but expansys do a good range of phones - including the dopod 838 pro (http://www.expansys.ca/)
I think most of these are phone only, without contract etc but I'm sure you can shop around for something with a contract.
Personally for my style of useage I'd spend out on one of the Hermes varieties.
You could also try ebay - maybe pick up a bargain 8525 or an old hermes to repair yours with.
Good luck
I just bought 2 HTC P4000 for some of our work phones. One has been activated so far, and it is working great. It is allot slimmer than the PPC-6700, which I had last year. I am a newbie when it comes to upgrading these things or doing hacks etc, but I am quite happy with the phone so far. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask me and I will try to answer them for you.
thanks guys,
I passed by a telus store today to check it out. The lady was nice enough to take a brand new phone out of its box and run it for me. I got to play around with it for a while and here are my impressions which are mostly positive:
-the slid out keyboard seems to have some kind of power assist feature (not exactly but you know what i mean, think hiptop) which makes it pretty cool and easier to slid out as oppose to having to manually push up the screen till you hear it lock into place (X01HT)
-The HTC P4000 is virtually the same size except just as twelveca stated, it is slightly thinner.
-same white default htc bootscreen + a telus logo screen and wm5 setup. I doubt the possibility of any kind of upgrade unless there are some crazy chefs out there that get their hands on this phone.
-has FN and CAPS lights just like a computer keyboard!
-black keyboard, dark gray screen housing, and a bumpy pattern on the back for added grip.
-I checked out the device info screen and to my surprise, it said it has a !400! MHz CPU as oppose to the 384 MHz stated in the specs. 64 MB RAM, 256 MB Onboard Flash memory confirmed.
-From the few minutes playing with it, it seems to perform at the same level (if not better) as the HERMES.
-Doesn't show any signs of screen alignment problems.
-EVDO High speed wireless capable.
There ya have it, looks like i'm leaning towards buying it. Just have to get over the idea that i won't be able to upgrade roms (for now at least) or use sim cards...But other than that, it seems like a great phone.
Oh i just found a link to a "Complete" review of the P4000 on HF
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1153541
It includes points i forgot to mention as well as ones i didn't even know of...
Here are some of them (note these are compared to the ut starcom 6700):
"
-dual core processor??
- REV A compatible (with software upgrade which Telus has officially announce they will do)
-more buttons on face and sides
-better one-handedoperation
-bigger battery
-better battery life
-better brighter screen
-better 2mp camera with improved software and settings
-AKU 3.3 which brings with it A2DP among other things
"
P4000
Just recently picked one of these up and have had a couple of days to play with it. I upgraded from an Imate PPC (original 2003 edition) and could not be happier.
This is a rock solid PPC, only wish my GPS hardware was compatable, sigh.
I was a little unsure of Telus but after my fiascos with Rogers, i dont expect them to give me half the grief.
cool, i'll be picking one up probably some time next week...just gotta figure out how i'm gunna cancel my plan with fido and transfer the number over...
...maybe we can start a new forum for this phone when more people have it...
Who that knows as to unlock Telus or P4000 ?
HTC TYTN
ji1386, how much do you want for your broken TYTN?
TYTN
ji1386, if you want to sell your broken TYTN, I could use it for parts if unable to fix it. Send me a PM with your offer. Thanks
I have this phone basically since it came out from Telus, and I must say I am quite enjoyikng it. Best Pocket PC phone out, IMO.
This phone is upgradeable to Windows Mobile 6.....however, there is no confirmed release date on when this will be. Also, checking the HTC site will most likely get you nowhere as Telus will need to configure this upgrade to have Telus aspects on there, for instance, The Telsus bootscreen, the today themes, etc.
GPS in HTC P4000
The GPS in this phone someone post what u gotta do to get GPS working on this phone in Stand Alone GPS Mode with No A-GPS.
Hi. I'm from Moscow, Russia and I've got a problem with my future (i hope) HTC Topaz.
After analyzing our(Russian) market I've came to a conclusion that there are at least 2 types of this device:
1. From Taiwan, certified, with guarantee, with Russian windows mobile - i.e. official one - 497.2$
2. From China, NOT certified, there are NO guarantee, English windows, the only document which comes with this device is a cash-memo and user manual - that's all (as salesman told me). price - 396$
100$ difference is a big money in my case. English Windows is not a problem, 'cause there are lots of info on howto change firmware. as for the guarantee - all the stuff i bought earlier (notebooks, cameras) are working just fine, I've never been at the service center before - so i hope i won't need one in future.
The question is: how to determine that the device I'm going to buy (before actually buying it; I'll have nearly 10-20 min) is a real one and not a fake like e.g. "HTS tauch brilliant2" or "Pear iFone 5g", that inside it's absolutely identical to the certified one, that the hardware is the same and I'll be able to change firmware. One of the problems is i won't be able to insert Sim and make a call, test WiFi and etc, 'cause the phone is probably locked. Is there any way, any program that allows to display a list of hardware inside this PDA on its screen or on the screen of notebook. Or maybe there is a list of serial numbers somewhere and i can compare them to the one i'll see under the battery? Maybe someone has bought it for extremely low price and really satisfied with it?
Any ideas and opinions are appreciated!
Thnx!
Best regards, Rudbur.
$396 is fake diamond 2 - it is easy to figure out - just turn it on and you'll see for yourself. real greyimport diamond 2 costs now $500, but it will has no manufacturer warranty anyway, don't get yourself tricked... if you want warranty - buy legally imported PCT device.
Oh, fellow countryman! Thanks for the answer!
You probably know (price.ru) what stores i mean. So, let's assume this: I'm ordering two different HTCs: one for 400$ and one for 500$. I turn them on (simultaneously), and what should i expect when testing the fake one?
If there's no difference at all - same buttons, same size, same menu and etc (except language: russian and english), should i buy cheapest?
oh, and i heard or read somewhere that china shops offer real topaz for 333$. Or am i wrong?
The Chinese "copies" aren't actually the same at all.
The names are similar/identical, and they try to mimmick the physical appearance of a genuine device, but the software and internals are all different. Usually there a obvious differences like a lower resolution camera, room for dual SIM cards etc.
I've never seen one myself, but I would imagine once you switch it on you'll get default Windows Mobile with no HTC add-ons. I doubt they have gone to the trouble of faking an entire HTC ROM as well - but I might be wrong.
Hi,
I can testify here, as I have been living in China for a while, and buying phones from the grey market for a while too.
a few things to know:
Real fake chinese stuff will not even have HTC written on it. MTC or something like that. The plastic looks cheap, and it wouldn't even have winmo on it. I saw a "Nolia N95" the other day with the Sony Ericsson interface on it!
Then, in china, you got an official one for real cheap, but the brand is Dopodo, and they don't have wifi built-in. It's the real stuff, but for chinese market only.
At last, the grey market stuff, like mine which I paid the equivalent of 400USD has, I believe "fallen from the truck" in HK... So it got the HK Rom in it, ot Taiwanese, not so certain, as it was in CHS, and they use CHT in those regions.
So, briefly, chinese fake will be very, very easy to spot Hope that helps!
Thanks to you all, guys. I hope the shop I'm going to buy from will allow me to test these devices and save few bucks. I emailed them earlier, asking about guarantee, prices and so on, but they haven't answered yet.
kipue, your opinion is especially important, because you lived there, you know what's what. So I'll draw attention to the labels on it, camera, functioning of wifi, windows mobile menus and all.
After actually buying it I'll post a reply here.
Best regards, Rudbur.
Hi, i have orded the htc touch clone on dealextreme(http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12811) but i heard that people have been getting service problems with this phone...
I live in canada and my service provider is fido. do you think i will be having service problems like the others??? :O
someone help PLZ
THX
Caveat emptor. . .
DarkEvo said:
Hi, i have orded the htc touch clone on dealextreme(http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12811) but i heard that people have been getting service problems with this phone...
I live in canada and my service provider is fido. do you think i will be having service problems like the others??? :O
someone help PLZ
THX
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I've seen a couple of threads here on xda with Canadians having trouble with the 850mhz frequency. If I were you, I would have gone with a quad band unlocked phone. Looking at your phone's specs, I noticed that it can only take a 2Gb SD card - that is pretty limited. My phone is listed on ebay here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2-8-WM6-5-W...ItemQQptZAU_Mobile_Phones?hash=item23039bf0c6
This seller is pretty good and as a result of his service, my brother and a friend bought different phones from him. 2.8" for the screen size is a little small IMHO. Initially I liked everything about my Jade Clone - mostly its internal SIRF III GPS chip. Now, looking at a 3.2" inch screen I have buyer's envy.
If you know that others have had or having problems with that phone, I'd contact the seller and let him know you are going to refuse its delivery. Normally refusing a delivery is free to you on the return send side but the seller may charge you for the attempted delivery.
We have a couple of Canadian Jade Clone owners in the Jade sub Forum. You can either visit it or visit this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581596&highlight=clone and then navigate to the higher Jade sub Forum.
Good luck!
BTW, I was doing a search for clone and came across your post. If you look at the lower left corner, I tagged your post with HTC clone. If you click on the hyperlink, you will see other HTC Clone posts.
ronp76 said:
I've seen a couple of threads here on xda with Canadians having trouble with the 850mhz frequency. If I were you, I would have gone with a quad band unlocked phone. Looking at your phone's specs, I noticed that it can only take a 2Gb SD card - that is pretty limited. My phone is listed on ebay here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2-8-WM6-5-W...ItemQQptZAU_Mobile_Phones?hash=item23039bf0c6
This seller is pretty good and as a result of his service, my brother and a friend bought different phones from him. 2.8" for the screen size is a little small IMHO. Initially I liked everything about my Jade Clone - mostly its internal SIRF III GPS chip. Now, looking at a 3.2" inch screen I have buyer's envy.
If you know that others have had or having problems with that phone, I'd contact the seller and let him know you are going to refuse its delivery. Normally refusing a delivery is free to you on the return send side but the seller may charge you for the attempted delivery.
We have a couple of Canadian Jade Clone owners in the Jade sub Forum. You can either visit it or visit this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581596&highlight=clone and then navigate to the higher Jade sub Forum.
Good luck!
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The frequency of my service provider (Fido) is 1900mhz and not 850mhz so do u think it will work??
i am using this only But still now i dont have any problem
DarkEvo said:
The frequency of my service provider (Fido) is 1900mhz and not 850mhz so do u think it will work??
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1900 is one of the standard GSM frequencies and should work. However, some clones have different type of problems on various carriers.
I am having service problems with this phone is there any way to repair this???????
Just read Chinavasion news.
There is a device called myPad which looks very much as the X7500.
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_...-windows-smartphone-with-5-inch-touch-screen/
No keyboard though and lack of 8/16GB HDD.
I thing GPS is also missing.
Same processor, memory, screensize and camera.
Would be very nice if we can flash this cheap myPad with WM6.5!
Hi there,the O/S could be WM6.1 CHINESE VERSION!!!
Any idea if this is actually a X7500? I would like to get one of these and put Android on it.
PaulMdx said:
Any idea if this is actually a X7500? I would like to get one of these and put Android on it.
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My experience with ChinaVasion Support is that they are quick and pretty complete. Info they don't have they seem to cannot find.
I myself have no hardware programming of Android.
And "Cross posting" is not allowed here I think?
The processor, ROM, RAM, GSEN and wifi looks the same to me and things like GPS are extra chips on the mainboard so if Android will be build for X7500 I am pretty sure it will work on the Chinese myPad too.
Maybe someone with the right knowledge can mail Kayode Enunekwu who bought one (see below at link).
If you use iPhoneToday you can pretty much setup your x7500 to copy an ipad's home screen OS look and even use the same background image as the ipad. It works really well with the Advantage-- autorotates, displays icons bubbles with counts, etc
still the android port is what I am waiting for
Hi there,has any forum members bought and using this device myPad,would like
to hear some first hand experience
I'm having a hard time trying to buy one on Chinavasion.
Paypal is refusing my current credit card, then I've tried add a new one, but Paypal give me a invalid zip code error. I'm not confident enough to try bank transfer.
A huge 5'' touchscreen plus Wi-Fi for only 310?
I must not miss this chance.
Sorry for my poor English.
ED-Z said:
I'm having a hard time trying to buy one on Chinavasion.
Paypal is refusing my current credit card, then I've tried add a new one, but Paypal give me a invalid zip code error. I'm not confident enough to try bank transfer.
A huge 5'' touchscreen plus Wi-Fi for only 310?
I must not miss this chance.
Sorry for my poor English.
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Strange, have you contacted Paypal about it?
I have bought a couple of phones and a car stereo in a few years from them and never had any problem with my creditcard and delivery.
I am no wholesaler or shop myself so could just have been lucky.
I would never buy with bank transfer indeed. No insurance whatsoever that you get the product or the money back.
I just ordered one.. the chinavision model is last years model.. the manufacturer is actually a company called QIGI (qwee-gee..) and the model number is the u1000 smartbook.. I ordered the newer model U2000 which comes with WM6.5.. should be here by next week..
pvanhaaren said:
Just read Chinavasion news.
I thing GPS is also missing.
Same processor, memory, screensize and camera.
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Looks like both versions have GPS. What's more interesting is the older version supports the 850 band but the newer one doesn't. I see one BIG problem with both versions - they only support EDGE, no 3G! I would buy one today if it had 3G. No 3G (or 4G), no sale...
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2328&view=1&c=qigi_smartbook_u2000
Just saw that the Athena is also called "Dopod U1000".
That makes the name "QiGi Smartbook U1000" even more copycat.
Would be bad indeed if there is no support for UMTS/HSDPA!
CSD is for Chinese market, right?
There is a "C-Motech Mangrove" with whopping 7" screen.
http://www.pocketables.net/2009/11/...indows-mobile-tablet-with-snapdragon-cpu.html
Cannot find an international shop yet. Any tips?
Hee Hee!! I ordered one and mine will be here tommorrow!! I ordered the u2000 which is the current one with wm6.5.. I dont care about 3g support because there actually isnt that many 3g towers where I live so I use edge anyway.. I'll let ya know when its here!
@vinski208
May I ask where you have orderred your u2000? I have search the net but only got news about the u2000, no shops to order!
BK
Hi vinski208
would also like to know where you order your unit,understand that there is a new
device just lunch U3000 (article was in Chinese)
Hi guys
so r there any news / reports about this new toy?
rgds
mind
Hi all,
I couldn't resist and bought one off ebay..arrived today and it looks pretty sturdy for a china made device.
Problem is I've been trying to charge it for the last 3 hours and it doesn't seem to wanna charge..
I'll leave this charging overnight and if it doesn't charge in the morning, I'll have to return this for a replacement..quite annoying!
ROM U1000
http://www.iqigi.com/viewthread.php?tid=4508&extra=page=1
bad battery
Hi guys! I also bought and received on monday a u2000. Everything works fine, except the battery... few calls, some reading in word = battery down in 3 hours. Next day, not using it , except 1 call, battery down in 6 hours.
I don't know what to do... a replacement of the battery, a refund...I just want the battery to last for 12-14 hours.
How long does your battery last?
What is your advice?
Please respond to this message as soon as you can.
Thank you very much!