Howdyua Customize SIP Menu Choices? - Touch HD General

Hiya xda, longtime reader and I am greatly in debt to you all for your insight into how to best get my Mr. Pocketphone awesome.
So, I have myself a Touch HD and am using Dutty's 3.9 which uses Touchflo 3D 2.0
The input menu on touchflo by default displays only three inputs when you pull it up. The first two are static: phone keypad, and full qwerty. The third one you can change by pulling up the "other input methods" option and selecting an input.
My question is: is it possible to change the first two static input options to something else with a registry tweak or something? I dont really use the phone keypad and would like to replace it with another one I regularly use so I dont have to go to the other input methods menu so often.
I have searched and searched, but cant seem to find an answer.
Any help you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated.

sealedhuman said:
Hiya xda, longtime reader and I am greatly in debt to you all for your insight into how to best get my Mr. Pocketphone awesome.
So, I have myself a Touch HD and am using Dutty's 3.9 which uses Touchflo 3D 2.0
The input menu on touchflo by default displays only three inputs when you pull it up. The first two are static: phone keypad, and full qwerty. The third one you can change by pulling up the "other input methods" option and selecting an input.
My question is: is it possible to change the first two static input options to something else with a registry tweak or something? I dont really use the phone keypad and would like to replace it with another one I regularly use so I dont have to go to the other input methods menu so often.
I have searched and searched, but cant seem to find an answer.
Any help you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use the following app SIPChange
Once installed, open up SIPChange and then select whichever keyboard you want to use as default. Now, even after a reset your choice will be default keyboard.

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should be a little more clear though.
I found this solution in the forums already, and thats not exactly what I want to do.
I want to change entrys that pop up when you tap the little arrow next to the keyboard on the bottom of the screen to bring up the entry menu.
On regular Windows mobile when you bring up the entry menu it just lists all the inputs you have installed on one long panel, but on Touchflo 3D there are only three inputs that appear, then to select additional inputs, you must click on the "other input methods" menu option.
My question is: Is there a way to substitute an input from the "other input methods" menu with one on the main input panel?
Of the two that are there by default on the main input panel I only use one, so i would like to substitute it with another input that I use more often, thus saving me the time of having to click the little arrow, then other input methods, then the input.
I guess this is a touchflo 3D specific problem. so i dont know if any registry tweak would fix it. Any help would be great though.

anyone know how to do this?
change order of the input menu entry's?

Related

T9 don´t switch

I have this perfect model, but one big problem with t9 entering text. I need disable this funkcion for ever. Can somebody advice?
Hey, I am having the same issue. It always tries to predict / complete my words but it never does it correctly. I have changed it to stop doing it in both the Touch Keyboard settings and the input settings.
Any guidance would be helpful.
This will disable T9 but...
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0".
... I did this as well as disabling the HTC built in keyboards via SKTools. I also installed 'PCMKeyboard' and 'IM selector' (To set PCM as the default).
In doing all of this, now on reset, one of the HTC keyboards still looks like it's default and I do not get predictive text anymore. Meaning that if I start a new email or sms, enter a letter in the 'To:' field, it wont suggest a contact.
I really haven't poked around as to what is going on so I'm living with it because I like the PCM keyboard to much.
Any help would be great. Thanks!
Your registry advice is not working on my device.
I obtained this reg suggestion through a thread in the 'elf' forum. I needed to use it to enable 'PCMkeyboard'. Sorry, I can no longer find the thread I was reading. You may want try and search for some clues there.
try this
try this
i think it will fix the problem
Hi GUys
The cab file works fine so well done.....
However if you are looking to use your keypad to msg[without T9] it wont work as the file disabled the use of letters, only numbers now work
Any chance that T9 can be turned off and still be able to use keypad to msg as normal.........
Thanks
Has there been any progress on this???
I'm tired of typing using the keyboard, along with the touchscreen and suggestions being made, then if i'm not looking, i press space and it adds the damned suggestion onto what i've typed (for instance: twotoo / memean)
Very annoying when trying to type a text quickly and sneakily in work, as i've got to focus on the text and not who's around me!
If it can be switched off, I would highly appreciate it, I can't find it in the Advanced Config Tool, or under any of the settings.
Thank you,
Hate to do this, but any ideas anyone???
Thank you,

Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

Touchpal freezing

Hi,
I use Touchpal V3.5 and i absolutely love it, if you haven't tired it I highly recommend it, especially good is the mixed language input and I actually type faster using touchpal+gsen in landscape mode than I did with a hardware keyboard (a worry that almost prevented me from buying this marvelous device). I do have two little niggles that would be great if i could overcome somehow:
1. Setting Touchpal to the default keyboard does not stick after a restart/reset. I have to change the keyboard each time i start up. I tried SIP Change but it doesn't seem to have an option for running at start-up....anyone know if i can get at the registry somewhere or something?
2. When I first open it, if i try to type in Chinese before using English, it freezes in a bad way, disabling EVERY window that tries to call the sip and requiring a soft reset to make the phone useable again. If I open it, type something in english, and then switch the input to chinese it runs like a charm until I restart again...what is that about?
Actually neither of these issues is a deal breaker, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, is anyone else having these troubles?...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
touchpal
i have touchpal also and cant keep it as default. Ive tried all the fixes there are on all the threads. Doesnt work for Touchpal. any suggestions or fixes would be greatly appreciated.
Well I figured out the answer to problem one on my own...TF3D takes a little time to load and interferes with SipChange so you need to adjust the delay so as to happen after TF3D is finished.
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
whats the difference (apart from it's tabulated) between touchpal and "compact QWERTY" mode keyboard?
you also need to Go make this change: HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps and remove the folder called "Startkey"
I have the same problem with touchpal, where do i do this?
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
@FRUSTIN:
TOuchpal is third-party software by CooTek, "Compact Querty" is just a different layout for the tock HTC input method. TOuchpal is MUCH more feature rich and just kicks the [email protected] out of the default keyboard in every way, it supports tons of languages and multi-language input (go back and forth between two languages in the same sentence without changing any settings), web hotkeys, adds copy/cut/paste and D-pad to EVERY app, etc. check it out at www.cootek.com
@DIAMONDBS:
I did NOT do that and it works perfectly for me...why do you need to remove an entire folder from the registry? Can anone confirm this?
@WEETABIX1980:
Just go to start>programs>SIP Change, when the program opens you select Touchpal from the list of input methods and then change the numbers in the box below the list to 45, then click "Select"...should be the only button there...tapping "OK" is not good enough, be sure to tap "Select"
thanks, any clue what sip change in dutch is in the programs?
anyone knows this?
SIPChange is a little tool developed here at XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Download the cab to your phone and install. This should then give you the options mentioned above.
Touchpal intermittantly hangs on me aswell. I post on here about it before. I tried allsorts to cure it (hard resets, clean installs etc). So annoying when demoing the phone to a friend and all of a sudden the keyboard hangs and wont popup.
I used to love Touchpal, now I hate it and will not install it on my phone.

disabling XT9 input

Hi all.
Is there a way to disable XT9 text input on the mini? I've tried all sorts of stuff but the bar with the suggestion words keep coming up. I would like to use the plain ABC input instead of always having to correct my text entries, especially given that I use loads of technical words and the dictionary keeps wanting to correct them...
Thanks for you help!
look at settings - region and text (10) - text input (2)- text input options (3) and here turn everything off.
i have not an english version and do not know the exact namings, therfore the numbers. hope it helps.
thanks
thanks. phone's not with me right now. will try when I get home...
Wonderful! Just thought that there were some settings on the keyboard itself that would allow for the T9 disabling but was wrong! Can now do everything that I want, thanks!
Hi,
I have the Dutch version but when I go to country settings -> region, I only can select a country.
I don't see the text options.
Same problem, I'd like to switch it off.
Any help is appreciated!
Regards:
Daan
no no no. Actually as birgit123 said it, it's not the "region" in the Start-Settings. You'll be able to access the "region and text" on the last tab at the bottom, going all the way to the right where you see Personalize as the first option. Scroll through there and you'll find what birgit123 said.
Hi, it sounds so simple and I'm a user of the Touch Diamond 2 for over a year now, completely knowing how to use and configure it but my wife got the HD Mini now and it's different.
Here some screens comparing my Diamond 2 with the HD Mini. As you can see I can switch off XT9 at the Diamond 2 but proceeding exaclty the same way on the Mini, I don't see the region and text option????
Can anybody help me out here, maybe a screenshot of a HD Mini for dummies (because that's how I feel now )
Once again, thanks for all the help!
regards: Daan

[Q] Cant get rid of compact keyboard

Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI
tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !
If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.
Mister B said:
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice
Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z
Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655

Categories

Resources