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Actually CLOSING programs using the HW-keys

With the Wizard I used VJOKButt with the IE-button so that I could close programs and dialogs without using the stylus.
The TyTN/Hermes has it's own OK button(s), and I was wondering if anyone knows a way these buttons can actually close (or be reconfigured to launch VJOKButt) programs?
I've already tried AE Button Plus but couldn't set a custom action for the OK button (allthough this might be because I didn't register the program)...
Any tips would be apreciated!

Moskus, if I ever get my computer working again,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=345461#345461
I may try to build such a feature in to VJOkButt, but I'd rather people be able to use their own button mappers. However, if AE Button plus doesn't do it, then I may try to build in this feature.
V

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Actually it does work, you just have to add it as a new button (menu | add button). I've got my OK hardware button mapped to ok/close for one press and close front application for a long press.
Steven

I certainly would love it if is was build in to VJOKButt, Vijay!
I guess I'll try AEButton again (for now). Didn't see that "Add button" feature.. :wink:
EDIT: The AEButton finds the hardware OK button, but the combination of VJOKButt and AEButton won't close the application, just minimize it. :?

With AE Button Plus 2.4.3 beta and upwards, you can capture and map the "ok" and "windows" buttons. Have set mine to close apps with 2 depresses of the "ok" button.

can it be done by tweaking some of the registry rather to instsall some of the 3rd party program?

Hmmm... I should have investigated some more. Now it works!

PQzII let's you map any button on the hermes (and universal) to anything you want...it is really great. It has an option to make the ok button a 'really close button' and much more.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm
You can find out a lot about it in this forum by searching for pqzII.

Hi All,
I'm trying AEBPlus and I tried to map the OK button the side to be "OK/Close" for one press and "Close active application" for two presses. however, the single press doesn't seem to work. Pressing it once no longer minimizes applications or funciton as the OK/Close button. In fact it does nothing. I'm using a CHT9000 with the Dopod English Rom. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks!

Moskus said:
Any tips would be apreciated!
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how about good old smartskey? it works in my Hermes, press&hold right softkey removes active window from memory.

Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response

OK buttons NOT mappable under WM5..not through menus anyway!
bydandie said:
Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response
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I agree. On my HTC Prophet using Wisbar Advanced 2, I am able to map the 'OK' button to 'Close/OK' option of the Wisbar application, which did close all my programs etc. On my VarioII the 'OK' buttons are not mappable. Bummer!!

Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...

How d'u use it this PQZII? Help!!
MAKBET said:
Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...
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Forgive my stupidity, but I'm currently using it, but haven't a clue how to get it to that for sure. It seems to work for some applications, but not for others. Any tips or guides for dummies like me :lol:

I'll join the dummies club too!

PQzII would be perfect if we could attach key presses of the same key to different apps like in AE button plus.
unfortunately, once PQzII captures the button, it overides AE button plus, meaning the 2 can't work together on the same button.
also found out that AE button plus 2.5 doesn't capture the windows button at all. Investigated back and found that only 2.4.3 beta did.

I dont know AEbutton so I dont understand why you want use both the programs. (note: also PQZ dose not configure well the win button) but you can configure any other button, eg: alt+left to close program (I put alt in internet button so if I want to close a program I press "internet program" and "left".

I've mapped my 'Button 5' (under settings/Buttons...) to 'Close/ok' of the Wisbar Advanced settings, which does close everything. Just until, as bydandie said, a more intuitive method can be achieved by using the 'ok' button.

in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try

MAKBET said:
in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try
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How do you do that MAKBET? Please share. Details please. :wink:

Mapping to OK and Win buttons

Noting that neither AEBPlus or DoubleLauncher seem able to access the OK and Win buttons, are there any other methods to assign an action to double or other states of these buttons? For example, it would be great if I could assign "close/kill" to a double OK click, or launch Resco Explorer with a double Win button click. Right now, only the Browser and Comm Manager buttons seem to be assignable, and press/hold for the Browser seems fixed to VueFlo. With AEBPlus, press/hold for the Comm Manager button shows up separately but can be assigned. I got really used to quick launch on my Wizard. I am finding iLauncher to be an OK sub in some measure, given that lots of icons can show on the VGA screen, but miss a quick double-tap to launch a frequently-used program...

yes same for me, if somebody have a way to map these keys ...

Why hasn't this ***hole been banned from the forum yet? Its been 27 posts of spam so far.

I've banned him and removed his messages. This my leave a "hole" where they used to be, so FYI to anyone else - ladysovereigna has been permanently banned for spamming.
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bebox said:
yes same for me, if somebody have a way to map these keys ...
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Back to topic... anyone have an idea??

I think it can be done, bit I've never had an Athena to test it on. Will give it a go one day. Will have to get a rom dump and see how things have changed on the newer hardware.
Have you tried all the usual suspects, ie AE Button Plus?
V

vijay555 said:
I think it can be done, bit I've never had an Athena to test it on. Will give it a go one day. Will have to get a rom dump and see how things have changed on the newer hardware.
Have you tried all the usual suspects, ie AE Button Plus?
V
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No luck with AE Button Plus...

I haven't tried the Win-button, but I've mapped the Ok button to ViJayOKButt (much better ) using AEButton Plus.

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I haven't tried the Win-button, but I've mapped the Ok button to ViJayOKButt (much better ) using AEButton Plus.
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How were you able to do that? I don't see that button.
The Win-button can be displayed as an option (via Add Buttons menu). However, the new assignments don't seem to work.

The new assignment works. I select File -> Add Button, and click the OK-button. The code "4075" shows up, and I click the "Add Button" button p).

From my experience you can map the 'OK' button but mapping on this hardware key seems to be limited and no mapping to the 'Windows' key.
IRC the developers of AEbutton informed me that MS have reserved those buttons strictly for O/S use and that AE hadn't found a way around it yet...that was over a year ago, but it seems they have made no real progress in this area except for a little with the 'OK' button.
I believe Vijay is right though...it can be done...just takes someone really dedicated to finding the solution.
Bear in mind though that most PPC's have more buttons than the Athena...hence the reason why AE haven't 'possibly' done their best to resolve this, or maybe it causes to many problems..who knows?

I've done it before on other devices, some time back, but will have to investigate Athena at some point. Can anyone point me at a freely available rom file for it? I've never even seen the hardware..
pauvre V

Moskus said:
The new assignment works. I select File -> Add Button, and click the OK-button. The code "4075" shows up, and I click the "Add Button" button p).
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I tried this, and "OK" did not show as an option. But one of the other buttons I added ended up with code 4075, and this now works. There is also an option for "Win" button but that doesn't work at all.

i have both of mine binded using ae button plus
what you do is instead of trying to select the button you hit add button and push the button you would like to bind

vijay555 said:
I've done it before on other devices, some time back, but will have to investigate Athena at some point. Can anyone point me at a freely available rom file for it? I've never even seen the hardware..
pauvre V
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Hi Vijay.
Fellow member Antivirus has some good internal photos of the hardware and I think some other good info on the Ameo try this link. Antivirus.

lol, thanks mackaby007, but I don't need to see inside the device itself, just its rom. Although I would need to test on the device itself.
Anyway, just theoretical for now, need to see a rom.
V

boinger66 said:
i have both of mine binded using ae button plus
what you do is instead of trying to select the button you hit add button and push the button you would like to bind
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So that's why I got such unpredictable results.. depended what I hit next. Hope this wasn't in the manual or user guide! I'd feel s-o-o-o foolish. Ha.

wgary said:
So that's why I got such unpredictable results.. depended what I hit next. Hope this wasn't in the manual or user guide! I'd feel s-o-o-o foolish. Ha.
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actually if u look in the ae button screen when u try to add a button it does say push the button u would like to bind I also got 4075 and for the win key its 405B
I have mine binded and working

Make volume keys scroll up/down instead of change volume?

see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?

stmcgill said:
Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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I was also wondering about that.

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I was also wondering about that.
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You most certainly can!
I use AE Button Plus. It is an amazing little app that lets you do just about anything with all the hardware buttons on the phone. It also lets you assign more than one behaviour to the same button- one for press, one for double press and so on... Check it out here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hope this helps!

Nice one- thanks for that

Yes, excellent app !
I've been able to link to npop by adding the "mail" button but it still launched the built-in mail program, anyone figure out if it can be "inhibited" from AE ?

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can you also make the wheel scroll? or it that not possible with this app?
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Wheel? What wheel? I only wish the Touch Dual had a wheel

Very impressed with Touch Dual so far. I agree - the wheel would have made it an amazing device...
Maybe for the Touch Dual II?

I can't get it to scroll when you keep the button pressed (volume up button for scroll up volume down button for scroll down)
I've tried loads of different combinations to get it to scroll like the dpad.
If anyones got it working can you post how please?

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see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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the missing buttons refer to the volume buttons. just press and hold to activate them.

I've mapped button 2 and 3 and button 2 hold and button 3 hold to scroll up and scroll down.
The hold buttons work OK but they aren't usable as a scroller as it takes too long to activate but If I map the normal buttons to scroll up and down they still only change volume. If I map them to launch contacts they launch this fine some of the time but not always and other times they just change the volume. So no can do. This by the way is using pocket plus' built in button mapping program.
Jeremy

Assigning Buttons

Okay, I can see that I can assign long-press Send and End keys, but I want to assign a function to the Back key (short press) - can it be done?

since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...

I'm not sure that Volume slider has been mappable on any of these devices. Previously I used SPB PocketPlus to map buttons, but on the HD the poplists in the setup don't work so I can't try it...

I am currently using AEBPlus to assign the buttons.I was able to map volume up, volume down and ok buttons to various functions.But unfortunately I am unable to map the HOme button.Can anyone let me know how to assign some functions for HOme button using AEBPlus please?
regards
vijay

Brilliant! AE Button Plus works perfectly, OK=Back. I love this site...

any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?

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any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
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You don't need to ask the same question wherever you go and also create a thread for that!

ok
i see what you mean. I just figured it might not get read if here at the end of an older thread... hehe you mods notice everything ;-)

Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.

eaglesteve said:
Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Yes you can.

panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Beauty!
Then I have no more issue with the lack of D-pad now.

panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Could you explain how to configure to apply to on off button.
Aside from that, does someone know how to get "long" working?
It tried to give the "Back arrow" additional functions.
1,2,3 times work fine, but long does not.
Also what is the default action of "Back arrow"
I do not find it on the list? Which number
So I could configure 1 times with default action
and 2 and 3 with something else.

Home button on AE plus
Has anyone found the home button "name" in AU Button plus yet?
This thread mentioned the name for the "back"-button is "OK" in AE button plus and that does work. (except foor the long press option, that I could not get to work, but double tap works fine)

pzucchel said:
since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
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pzucchel, I'm with you! I've realised that I actually used the scroll wheel on the Trinity much more than the D-pad, so AE buttons is a godsend!
I've got volume up/down to become arrow up/down, but how about the Trinity press-to-select on the scroll wheel? I can't get the long press on the vol buttons to work otherwise it'd be perfect...

What version of AEBPlus are you using?
I installed AEBPlus 2.6.3 to enable turning the screen while pressing the volume up button.
This version is a 14 day trail version, there is however a freeware 1.0.1 version but that one is not officialy supporting the Blackstone.
Which version are you using? I find $14 a lot for changing the behaviour of one key...

AEButton will NOT stop working after 14 days, and all the functions you really want will still be there
What is the difference between trial and registered version?
Two things only:
1. Splash screen appears during device starting up.
2. "Action list" is blocked in trial mode
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http://ae.inc.ru/aebplusfaq.php

Good to know! Didn't see that when reading the website...
Anyway - is there an easy trick to assign the "volume up" pressed for >1 sec to rotating the screen to landscape (270 deg) and portrait?
/me is thinking of a registry tweak...

I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?

tomasn said:
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
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There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654

Yerry said:
There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
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OK, I can see that you want to push your own solution but as far as I can see it does not support the Home button either. Also it supports a lot fewer actions than AE Button Plus does.

How to make more buttons mappable in settings/buttons

Hi. I'd like to know if there's a way to make more HW buttons visible in settings/buttons so that they can be mapped?
I've looked at the registry but that didn't make me any wiser..
I don't want to use X1 button mapper, I just want more buttons to choose from.
Now there's only Left Key and Right Key available.
/Thanks

emwdava said:
Hi. I'd like to know if there's a way to make more HW buttons visible in settings/buttons so that they can be mapped?
I've looked at the registry but that didn't make me any wiser..
I don't want to use X1 button mapper, I just want more buttons to choose from.
Now there's only Left Key and Right Key available.
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hi there.there is a program that calls aebutton plus.try that very use full.cheers

human75 said:
hi there.there is a program that calls aebutton plus.try that very use full.cheers
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Yes, I've already tried AE B+ but I didn't like the lag it produces from pressing a button until the action is performed.
I found out today that with SPB pocket Plus you can add buttons to the stock WM6.1 buttonmapper and you can also assign a press+hold function to every button.
I also tried the freeware HButton with which you can assign 5 actions to every HW button in the stock buttonmapper list.
In combination with SPB Pocket Plus this is a must have for me.
No lag at all!!!
/thanks for the tip anyway.

emwdava said:
Yes, I've already tried AE B+ but I didn't like the lag it produces from pressing a button until the action is performed.
I found out today that with SPB pocket Plus you can add buttons to the stock WM6.1 buttonmapper and you can also assign a press+hold function to every button.
I also tried the freeware HButton with which you can assign 5 actions to every HW button in the stock buttonmapper list.
In combination with SPB Pocket Plus this is a must have for me.
No lag at all!!!
/thanks for the tip anyway.
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I tried using SPB PP for this purpose and it didnt give me any new buttons. What extra buttons does it let you map?

JKingDev said:
I tried using SPB PP for this purpose and it didnt give me any new buttons. What extra buttons does it let you map?
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I've so far only tried with the ok button.
After installing spb pp I got an option in the button window that says "Add new button".
Try it and follow the instructions.

emwdava said:
I've so far only tried with the ok button.
After installing spb pp I got an option in the button window that says "Add new button".
Try it and follow the instructions.
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Eh. Doesnt work with any other. I shall continue with X1BC. I like the fact that HButton vibrates on press and hold. I should add this to X1BC.

JKingDev said:
Eh. Doesnt work with any other. I shall continue with X1BC. I like the fact that HButton vibrates on press and hold. I should add this to X1BC.
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Hm, I'm gonna try this...
Maybe I got (un)Lucky with the first try.