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Actually CLOSING programs using the HW-keys

With the Wizard I used VJOKButt with the IE-button so that I could close programs and dialogs without using the stylus.
The TyTN/Hermes has it's own OK button(s), and I was wondering if anyone knows a way these buttons can actually close (or be reconfigured to launch VJOKButt) programs?
I've already tried AE Button Plus but couldn't set a custom action for the OK button (allthough this might be because I didn't register the program)...
Any tips would be apreciated!

Moskus, if I ever get my computer working again,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=345461#345461
I may try to build such a feature in to VJOkButt, but I'd rather people be able to use their own button mappers. However, if AE Button plus doesn't do it, then I may try to build in this feature.
V

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Actually it does work, you just have to add it as a new button (menu | add button). I've got my OK hardware button mapped to ok/close for one press and close front application for a long press.
Steven

I certainly would love it if is was build in to VJOKButt, Vijay!
I guess I'll try AEButton again (for now). Didn't see that "Add button" feature.. :wink:
EDIT: The AEButton finds the hardware OK button, but the combination of VJOKButt and AEButton won't close the application, just minimize it. :?

With AE Button Plus 2.4.3 beta and upwards, you can capture and map the "ok" and "windows" buttons. Have set mine to close apps with 2 depresses of the "ok" button.

can it be done by tweaking some of the registry rather to instsall some of the 3rd party program?

Hmmm... I should have investigated some more. Now it works!

PQzII let's you map any button on the hermes (and universal) to anything you want...it is really great. It has an option to make the ok button a 'really close button' and much more.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm
You can find out a lot about it in this forum by searching for pqzII.

Hi All,
I'm trying AEBPlus and I tried to map the OK button the side to be "OK/Close" for one press and "Close active application" for two presses. however, the single press doesn't seem to work. Pressing it once no longer minimizes applications or funciton as the OK/Close button. In fact it does nothing. I'm using a CHT9000 with the Dopod English Rom. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks!

Moskus said:
Any tips would be apreciated!
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how about good old smartskey? it works in my Hermes, press&hold right softkey removes active window from memory.

Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response

OK buttons NOT mappable under WM5..not through menus anyway!
bydandie said:
Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response
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I agree. On my HTC Prophet using Wisbar Advanced 2, I am able to map the 'OK' button to 'Close/OK' option of the Wisbar application, which did close all my programs etc. On my VarioII the 'OK' buttons are not mappable. Bummer!!

Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...

How d'u use it this PQZII? Help!!
MAKBET said:
Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...
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Forgive my stupidity, but I'm currently using it, but haven't a clue how to get it to that for sure. It seems to work for some applications, but not for others. Any tips or guides for dummies like me :lol:

I'll join the dummies club too!

PQzII would be perfect if we could attach key presses of the same key to different apps like in AE button plus.
unfortunately, once PQzII captures the button, it overides AE button plus, meaning the 2 can't work together on the same button.
also found out that AE button plus 2.5 doesn't capture the windows button at all. Investigated back and found that only 2.4.3 beta did.

I dont know AEbutton so I dont understand why you want use both the programs. (note: also PQZ dose not configure well the win button) but you can configure any other button, eg: alt+left to close program (I put alt in internet button so if I want to close a program I press "internet program" and "left".

I've mapped my 'Button 5' (under settings/Buttons...) to 'Close/ok' of the Wisbar Advanced settings, which does close everything. Just until, as bydandie said, a more intuitive method can be achieved by using the 'ok' button.

in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try

MAKBET said:
in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try
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How do you do that MAKBET? Please share. Details please. :wink:

Want to remap hardware buttons freely...how ? (and some other tweaking-requests)

Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...

Anyone please ...?

I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.

Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1

Mark One said:
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.

forcedalias said:
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)

VC with BT headset
Moaske said:
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?

jawis said:
I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...

lmbranco said:
...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...

Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V

vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<

vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons

vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance

Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V

tommytao said:
Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus

vijay555 said:
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
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OK OK !!! Let me find him

tommytao said:
[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?

Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga

AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php

Make volume keys scroll up/down instead of change volume?

see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?

stmcgill said:
Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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I was also wondering about that.

Thyraz said:
I was also wondering about that.
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You most certainly can!
I use AE Button Plus. It is an amazing little app that lets you do just about anything with all the hardware buttons on the phone. It also lets you assign more than one behaviour to the same button- one for press, one for double press and so on... Check it out here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hope this helps!

Nice one- thanks for that

Yes, excellent app !
I've been able to link to npop by adding the "mail" button but it still launched the built-in mail program, anyone figure out if it can be "inhibited" from AE ?

at3m said:
can you also make the wheel scroll? or it that not possible with this app?
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Wheel? What wheel? I only wish the Touch Dual had a wheel

Very impressed with Touch Dual so far. I agree - the wheel would have made it an amazing device...
Maybe for the Touch Dual II?

I can't get it to scroll when you keep the button pressed (volume up button for scroll up volume down button for scroll down)
I've tried loads of different combinations to get it to scroll like the dpad.
If anyones got it working can you post how please?

stmcgill said:
see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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the missing buttons refer to the volume buttons. just press and hold to activate them.

I've mapped button 2 and 3 and button 2 hold and button 3 hold to scroll up and scroll down.
The hold buttons work OK but they aren't usable as a scroller as it takes too long to activate but If I map the normal buttons to scroll up and down they still only change volume. If I map them to launch contacts they launch this fine some of the time but not always and other times they just change the volume. So no can do. This by the way is using pocket plus' built in button mapping program.
Jeremy

How to make more buttons mappable in settings/buttons

Hi. I'd like to know if there's a way to make more HW buttons visible in settings/buttons so that they can be mapped?
I've looked at the registry but that didn't make me any wiser..
I don't want to use X1 button mapper, I just want more buttons to choose from.
Now there's only Left Key and Right Key available.
/Thanks

emwdava said:
Hi. I'd like to know if there's a way to make more HW buttons visible in settings/buttons so that they can be mapped?
I've looked at the registry but that didn't make me any wiser..
I don't want to use X1 button mapper, I just want more buttons to choose from.
Now there's only Left Key and Right Key available.
/Thanks
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hi there.there is a program that calls aebutton plus.try that very use full.cheers

human75 said:
hi there.there is a program that calls aebutton plus.try that very use full.cheers
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Yes, I've already tried AE B+ but I didn't like the lag it produces from pressing a button until the action is performed.
I found out today that with SPB pocket Plus you can add buttons to the stock WM6.1 buttonmapper and you can also assign a press+hold function to every button.
I also tried the freeware HButton with which you can assign 5 actions to every HW button in the stock buttonmapper list.
In combination with SPB Pocket Plus this is a must have for me.
No lag at all!!!
/thanks for the tip anyway.

emwdava said:
Yes, I've already tried AE B+ but I didn't like the lag it produces from pressing a button until the action is performed.
I found out today that with SPB pocket Plus you can add buttons to the stock WM6.1 buttonmapper and you can also assign a press+hold function to every button.
I also tried the freeware HButton with which you can assign 5 actions to every HW button in the stock buttonmapper list.
In combination with SPB Pocket Plus this is a must have for me.
No lag at all!!!
/thanks for the tip anyway.
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I tried using SPB PP for this purpose and it didnt give me any new buttons. What extra buttons does it let you map?

JKingDev said:
I tried using SPB PP for this purpose and it didnt give me any new buttons. What extra buttons does it let you map?
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I've so far only tried with the ok button.
After installing spb pp I got an option in the button window that says "Add new button".
Try it and follow the instructions.

emwdava said:
I've so far only tried with the ok button.
After installing spb pp I got an option in the button window that says "Add new button".
Try it and follow the instructions.
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Eh. Doesnt work with any other. I shall continue with X1BC. I like the fact that HButton vibrates on press and hold. I should add this to X1BC.

JKingDev said:
Eh. Doesnt work with any other. I shall continue with X1BC. I like the fact that HButton vibrates on press and hold. I should add this to X1BC.
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Hm, I'm gonna try this...
Maybe I got (un)Lucky with the first try.

AEB Plus....

Does anyone know if AEB works in the TP2 I'd very much like to change the buttons, I miss my scroll wheel and I'd like to make the volume rocker scroll up and down instead
Cheers,
DJ

I'd have made ONLY: 1 press volume button down to ''scroll down'' & long press same button to ''speaker vol down''. Same for volume button up.
I"d try make something with other buttons but unsucsessfull

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Does anyone know if AEB works in the TP2 I'd very much like to change the buttons, I miss my scroll wheel and I'd like to make the volume rocker scroll up and down instead
Cheers,
DJ
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Its very unstable with the other buttons...volume button I haven't tried.

Tried all buttons, but most of them won't work.
Volume works great for single-double-tripple and long, but that's about it.
Did not find any change in Menu-button or changes on phone buttons. I could not find the 'Button 1' on the device.
So, it was a great program for my qtek9000, it's almost useless for this one... I hope they will be able to get all buttons!
Besides, I'm hoping for someone to hack the zoom-slide to change it into 4 buttons... (eg. in this order: left-up-down-right so we might use AE to change those buttons)

I use the latest version on my TPro2 and it works like a charm.
No problems at all.

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Vanstra said:
I use the latest version on my TPro2 and it works like a charm.
No problems at all.
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The same way: it works perfectly...

Does someone know, how to access this key
I'm using AEBplus on my HTC Touch2 aka Mega and would like to remap the key with an arrow to the left. See also the picturee.
Does somebody know how to do this. In the program I can't find it.
Regards
cimber

no one any idea ?
From Alexander Eltsyn also no answer.
Regards
cimber

Forget AEB
Sorry to say that, but with this device, there is no need for AEB anymore.
Look for this App and be happy...;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
A Must-Have-App and absolutely perfect.

Whumpscut said:
Sorry to say that, but with this device, there is no need for AEB anymore.
Look for this App and be happy...;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
A Must-Have-App and absolutely perfect.
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X2 this app is wonderful!!!

the answer
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From Alexander Eltsyn also no answer.
Regards
cimber
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Now the answer did come !!!
See here :
As for your question:
At least some of the HTC devices implements “back” button scan code to generic “Ok” button. So you could just try to re-define “Ok” in bplus settings list and see if it will work on “back” button.
There are 3 situations with buttons:
- button is already in list but could be named differently.
- button could be added via File -> Add Button in bplus settings menu.
- button is implemented on a driver level making impossible interception by application-level software like BPlus.
Regards
cimber
PS : the "back"- button is assigned on the HTC Touch2 like the "ok" - button in AEBplus