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This is thread about porting the ORIGINAL ROM of HTC HERO that HTC announced in its event on 24th June...........
Any one who gets hold of the ROM please upload it here so that the devs can start porting ...
The ROM that original firmware has is slight different and it seemed to be much more complete and smoother....
THE ROM IS NOT YET THERE>>> THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION
If this a discussion thread then i will move it to general, thanks for the clarification
i cant wait until we get it. hopefully Haykuro shows up with it out of the blue and becomes our Hero.
How does everyone think the Sense UI Rom will run on our G1s? Do you think it will be as fast as it was in the Hero Demo or will it be slightly slower than that because the Dream has less ROM/RAM vs the Hero?
im sure that it will be faster than our current hero rom with a2sd. It might be a little slower but i dont think it should be that noticeable of a difference.
it should be able to run well...swapper will make up for the ram we dont have and a class 6 card will also help our cause.
HTC Hero G3 Released to T-mobile and G1 update
looks like T-mobile will Released Hero by November and December and
will released the flash player to all G1 (OTA UPDATE)
update code Name: flash (V2.0) update..
"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
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well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
Rosco911 said:
"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
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well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
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why not both? ;P
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
why not both? ;P
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This is why I love xda
does anyone think that this could be done without root, similar to the manual update for T-Mobile 1.5? Maybe you could just edit the contents of T-Mobile 1.5 to add the UI changes?
I really doubt it, if it were possible I think we would've done that with some of the ROMs that have been released. You're on a developer website, you have to take some risks because this is "in development' not finished.
as I stated in another thread, HTC is not bringing sense to "with Google" branded phones, however, there are non google dreams out there, I think roger's is one of them. Once rogers gets rosie, it's gonna be an easy port to any dream rom.
Anyway, if somebody dumps a hero rom, there shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't run on Dream. Hero is comparable in hardware (memory size and storage capacity) to the sapphire, so it'd only be a matter of making rosie run in less memory (192 vs 288) and fit in a smaller space (256 vs 512). The processors by Qualcomm on both devices are very similar, the hero's being a revision of dream's and sapphire's processors, and they both share the same arm11 core. Both processors are capable of running at 528mhz, so, really, there's very little difference between both devices. Again, a rogers dream port would be better, but Hero port will still work fine on dream
Dear Community.
I've one question...
HTC has a lot of Android phones in their product line...
Magic, Hero, Tatoo
But what is the big difference between them?
I only know that Hero and Tatoo have little bit more Ram and an other UI.
But is it worth to buy a Tatoo in stead of an Magic?
thanks
Terrorhuhn
Terrorhuhn said:
Dear Community.
I've one question...
HTC has a lot of Android phones in their product line...
Magic, Hero, Tatoo
But what is the big difference between them?
I only know that Hero and Tatoo have little bit more Ram and an other UI.
But is it worth to buy a Tatoo in stead of an Magic?
thanks
Terrorhuhn
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I'm not an expert of testing different phones. But here's my short review anyway. There are no huge differences, though the Hero doesn't upgrade to OS 1.6 yet.
I'll start with the Magic.
The Magic has two version, the 32B and 32A.
To summarize that, the 32A is a little "faster" can load more apps and used OS 1.5 but now upgraded to 1.6. Big disadvantages are having no 3.5 mm jack for audio, bad camera and multimedia support.
The Hero has the nice Sense UI (Rosie) but might have little lag on homescreen once you put more applications on it etc.. One of the neat things is the fingerprint-resistant coating so you don't have to clean it over and over like the Magic.
The Tattoo runs 1.6 and is much like Hero because of the Sense UI and it is much faster with booting. The design fits better in one hand because it's more round shaped. Disadvantage is the smaller screen.
You can modify any of these phones to your taste. But I think HTC has done a great job with Tattoo. The Dream & Magic are also good phones, but if you plan not to mod the phone I'd say Tattoo.
Just my opinion with some facts. The choice is up to you.
All Android phones are cool.
i could live with the small screen as a pocket suitable phone but the screen of the tattoo is only a resistive screen instead of a capacitive screen. Which is a big disadvantage.
What about the TMobile MyTouch 3G?
Where does the TMobile MyTouch 3G fit in with all of that?
And why does the description on this board only say "also known as HTC Magic" but not "also known as TMobile MyTouch 3G"?
Thanks for reply.
I would flash roms to my phone, so the UI differences are not so importand for me...
But when I do a comparison between... Hero and Magic (Magic has a Rom with Sense ui)
Am I right if I say they are then very similar??
greets
Terrorhuhn said:
Thanks for reply.
I would flash roms to my phone, so the UI differences are not so importand for me...
But when I do a comparison between... Hero and Magic (Magic has a Rom with Sense ui)
Am I right if I say they are then very similar??
greets
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Well, if you get a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G or some models from Vodafone also means you'll get PVT32B version with 192MB ram. And that isn't really good enough for a HTC Hero Rom. It would eventually lag (slow down) even with swap. PVT32A has 288MB ram FYI. There are pretty good Roms for this one, but from my experience with using Android phones I've never had problems with android 1.6 donut and 2.0 eclair. You can modify them a lot to make it look like the Sense UI if you really want to. Or ofcourse just get the HTC Hero...
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The Hero has the nice Sense UI (Rosie) but might have little lag on homescreen once you put more applications on it etc.. One of the neat things is the fingerprint-resistant coating so you don't have to clean it over and over like the Magic.
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I thought HTC already released an update to fix any lag on the phone.
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Where does the TMobile MyTouch 3G fit in with all of that?
And why does the description on this board only say "also known as HTC Magic" but not "also known as TMobile MyTouch 3G"?
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The mt3g is the same
the reason it say also known as the magic is because that is the real name of htc's phone
they use sapphire because thats what its called in the coding
the mt3g is just what tmobile decided to call it because they seem to be the only one's with a contract to switch htc's names (htc now wants to brand themselves so we'll see how much longer that last)...
the difference in the names really doesnt matter... it come down to what type of board you have 32a/32b
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I thought HTC already released an update to fix any lag on the phone.
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Yes that might be.
I'm not that up to date with the Hero, I heard people have had problems with it and not sure if that's fixed by now, that's why I said 'might'.
Other than that what about the motorola droid, that looks good, all metal casing.
Radio differences
pack: Thanks for the reply!
I suppose there are radio differences too since there seems to be a lot of variation in how carriers handle 3G, at least in terms of frequencies used. TMobile and AT&T in the US do 3G differently and it seems that carriers in Europe and Asia have other ways. I don't know, though, if each 3G carrier's version of the Sapphire has an internal name at HTC for differentiation.
It would be great, though, if HTC started coming out with phones that had radios capable of being used on any GSM network, including data at 3G speeds, because everyone I know in the US with a 3G phone that was unlocked and moved from TMobile to AT&T, or vice versa, has to live with 2G data speeds on the other network. Is this the case in Europe too when switching between carriers or moving between countries? Or has 3G data been standardized there?
I would not recommend the Tattoo simply based on it's resistive screen.
The HTC Hero is the best Android offering so far from HTC. If you can get your hands on a HTC Magic 32A version it's just about identical hardware-wise to an HTC Hero.
HI guys,
looking to sell my iphone and come back to HTC!!!
wondering if there any big difference between the magic capabilities to the hero?
can the hero's rom be fully flashed to the magic? is there anything the hero can do the magic cant?
i really like the hero features but love the magic's look
thanks for your help
patterns said:
i really like the hero features but love the magic's look
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My advice is that if you prefer the Magics look, get the Magic.
However, you need to be a little careful as there are essentially two versions of the Magic. One of them has 288mb RAM (same as the Hero) and the other only 192mb RAM. I would avoid the latter if possible.
Other than that, the only other real difference between the Magic and the Hero (given that SenseUI is now available for the Magic) is that the Magic's camera is 3.2MP vs 5MP on the Hero. However, this isn't really much of an issue as both cameras are pretty naff to be honest!
Any ROMs you find in these forums are for Hero only - you should never try to flash a Hero ROM on a Magic or vice versa. Note though that many Magic ROMs are based on Hero ROMs, so it is quite common to find Magic ROMs with "Hero" in the title.
Regards,
Dave
Hero is surrounded by Black Magic and White Magic!
foxmeister gave good advice.
Hero has also got a 3,5mill audio jack.
I used to want the magic too because of the looks. But when I saw the brown Hero in reality, I have chansged my mind, because it looked so neat and cute. And the Magic looked worse than in pictures - you can't really notice those mouldy lines.
Hero has also got a 3,5mill audio jack.
I used to want the magic too because of the looks. But when I saw the brown Hero in reality, I have chansged my mind, because it looked so neat and cute. And the Magic looked worse than in pictures - you can't really notice those mouldy lines.
thanks guys, hero it is!!
just wondering can you access the root of the phone like a normal htc or is it like a iphoen where its locked down? thats what i dont like about the iphone is limited capabilities
also how difficult is it to unlock?
also consider battery life.
Hero's is much much better than Magic!
(talking about HTC Hero)
You can root the hero easy, flash whatever you like, the cooking community is just starting to find it's feet as things have been a little slow with the hero- kernel code only just released and all that.
pauliusba said:
Hero has also got a 3,5mill audio jack.
I used to want the magic too because of the looks. But when I saw the brown Hero in reality, I have chansged my mind, because it looked so neat and cute. And the Magic looked worse than in pictures - you can't really notice those mouldy lines.
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That was true but the limited edition Magic Fender edition also get a 3.5mm jack.
the fender edition magic is a mt3g so only 192mb ram so no sense
Guys big thansk for all th advice
im now the proud owner of a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cid and sim unlocked it, got modaco running which is cool
have to say this seems like the perfect balance between windows and iphone!
windows was boring me hence i went to iphone, but that was too restrictive, although very smooth.
Hero looks good for now!
patterns said:
Guys big thansk for all th advice
im now the proud owner of a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cid and sim unlocked it, got modaco running which is cool
have to say this seems like the perfect balance between windows and iphone!
windows was boring me hence i went to iphone, but that was too restrictive, although very smooth.
Hero looks good for now!
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Congrats!!
good choice, the more of us - the better!
I can get my Nexus One next week,.. which i am seriously considering..
My only concern with US version is the lack of multitouch in default browser, maps, picture gallery..
With european (vodafone) version,.. i would like to ask, what do you think, chances are it will be branded?
I've had HTC Magic before and i've rooted it and installed roms,.. but i don't like doing that very much I thought with nexus one, i won't have to
What would you suggest? Sorry for noob questions
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t4tav said:
Exactly the same position... But i've brought mine
Chances are that the UK version will be branded and locked to Vodafone are quite high.
As for multitouch, I expect it to appear in roms once the SDK is released. But I can live without it at the moment
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but if you root the device, do you loose text messages etc?
I think you should get the US version and root, multitouch will be added soon through ROMs.
And Brent when you unlock the boot loader for the first time you lose everything.
lol who cares about loosing text messages, European version unless it has some hardware differences (e.g. 32a and 32b with htc magic) then couldn't care less - multitouch doesn't worry me at all since I already have it on my magic and it's not that big of a deal if i have it or not the novelty doesn't wow for long and its real uses don't extend much beyond browser photos (maps would be nice). Also Google tends to be more loyal to its American base so I'd expect more long term support such as an upgrade deal when the nexus two comes out or something
dondian said:
I can get my Nexus One next week,.. which i am seriously considering..
My only concern with US version is the lack of multitouch in default browser, maps, picture gallery..
With european (vodafone) version,.. i would like to ask, what do you think, chances are it will be branded?
I've had HTC Magic before and i've rooted it and installed roms,.. but i don't like doing that very much I thought with nexus one, i won't have to
What would you suggest? Sorry for noob questions
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If the European version is completely compatible with the American ROMs, I'ld get the European version.
@t4tav: how do you like it so far? And what did you have prior nexus one?
t4tav said:
Chances are that the UK version will be branded and locked to Vodafone are quite high.
I don't think it will be branded or locked as this model is not what google are going for. Even the phone sold on US T-Mobile contract are unlocked.
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Chances are that the UK version will be branded and locked to Vodafone are quite high.
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I don't think it will be branded or locked as this distribution model is not what google are going for. Even the phone sold with US T-Mobile contract are unlocked.[/QUOTE]
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I thought the Sim free version is a 'world phone' (well in the place it works)
It's not American or European or Chinese or whatever, but a universal stock ROM?
Or if it isn't - what things on the phone will make it a US rom and how different will it be?
Usually when an operator takes it - they'll flash their softwar eovertop to brand it - so Vodafone may put in their Vodafone 260 shortcuts etc ....but usually they don't customise them a whole lot.
The Nexus One is being sold completely SIM unlocked on any carrier (would assume there will be no branding also), this is one of the big things about the Nexus One, it's being sold by Google directly and not the carriers. Watch the Engadget interview with Eric Tseng, give a great deal of incite into where Google are going.
http://www.engadget.com/video/page/3#player
There is never a branding on any N1,many sources say this.
The hardware of the EU and US Nexus are the same, so you can swwitch ROMs in between.
Multitouch will come to the US Version too, not by google but by the nice guys from cyanogen and modaco or someone else in this forum. In multitouch sensitive apps there are allready working Programs in the Market (Dolphin Browser,...)
I was watching that endadget interview and i like google's move..
It's just i'm still sceptical about vodafone, that's all
And there is also one huge factor called patience If i can install european rom later, why would i wait for european release?
Hope to see some more reviews of you european users.. I still have a few days to make up my mind.
If you want multi-touch in the browser then get the dolphin browser it has multi-touch
Should be interesting because I think that Vodafone UK dont lock their phones, or at least the 5 or 10 that ive had over the past 18months havent been locked.
The iPhone on Voda UK is probably locked down though. :S
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Well, i guess since this news came out..:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/11/android-2-1-sdk-now-available-nexus-one-says-geez-finally/
..it shouldn't be too long, before we see some more "good stuff" coming to nexus one?
t4tav said:
My N73 and Blackberry Storm on Vodafone were locked
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my x1 from voda wasn't
Anybody know what the point of devicewire.co.uk's purpose is in asking for interest in the N1 from UK customers?
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/google-nexus-one
If the EU phones will be the exact same version as the US one then why not just buy it from google? And, doesn't this go against google's distribution policy?
hey guys. I am pretty close to buying the HD2. I will be comming from Android, and I really like the free applications...but as far as I hear, win 6.5 does not offer many free apps...mostly everything is paid... am I wrong? is there any place other than marketplace to download apps, safely?
Also, one quick question: why sould i flash a coocked rom? how does it help? i know rooting my g1 was of great help, but does HD2 matter without that?
I hope I post in the correct place, if not please move this post to the appropriate place.!
thank you.
Not the correct place to post, but just like rooting your G1 flashing roms on your HD2 provides improvements to your phone such as updates to the OS, speed, and etc. As far as "free"... there really isn't anywhere else to get them if by free you mean actually free. There are warez sites out there, but we don't condone that here, that is for you to find out on your own. I came from Android (Nexus One) and am happy here with my HD2. The choice is yours.
I'm new to WinMo, but I've found a few sites to use as app-libraries.
http://www.bestwindowsmobileapps.com
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com
Not all of those are free, but a lot are. If you need a particular function, more than likely, you can find a free app for it.
Also Microsoft announced the other day they were doing some sort of expansion to the Marketplace, so it should be easier to find apps.
HD2
Hello,
I too am a ex-android user. Had G1, Mytouch, Cliq. The HD2 is far away the fastest phone I have ever used. The chefs on this site are amazing, and I for one I believe there will be a day soon when we Hd2 users will have the ability to boot into Android if we want. And you never know, Windows 7 may be in the future too. If you get the HD2, you wont be disappointed.
Good luck!
fhaines
Coming From a Iphone 2g and A t-mo G1 I will say the hd2 is a pretty big change. In some respects I miss android but I am very happy with the hd2. The screen is incredible and its so thin. I laugh when I see iphone users. As far as app a lot are pay. that can be a good or a bad thing. No one wants to develop for a platform where they wont get paid for
I still have my iPhone...my wife has a mytouch.
Other than the Apps, neither the iPhone or mytouch have anything on the HD2.
Apps are a big deal to some people though, and there aren't very many on the HD2...so that's certainly something to think about. For me, the apps got old after awhile, and I hardly ever used them any more. I made too many stupid impulse purchases on apps I used once and never opened again. Most of them are pointless.
Stupid Question
Dude, either you get it or you don't... its a dumb question bro, sorry.
I'm buying an HD2 for all the wrong reasons (same reason as I bought the Touch Pro 2), I'm getting it in the hope that it will at least be able to dual-boot android in the future, at best, have native android.
When I saw the Supersonic, I was excited except for the fact that it's a CDMA device and I like T-Mobile better than sprint. My gut tells me that there'll be a GSM version of the Supersonic, but I'm noticing an HTC trend and I think that if such a device were made in GSM, it will be made for ATT's bands and not T-Mobile's.
I'm very capable of making my own builds for the Dream (I'm running a near-perfect copy of the nexus one 2.1 on my Dream), so I know that (other than the screen size) I can make my dream offer a similar experience. I was also making my own Android builds for the Rhodium before I returned it in expectance of the HD2. I'm attracted to the idea of a dual-boot Winmo-Android, so the HD2 is looking more and more attractive but the unlocked device's been out for so long in europe that I'm pretty sure a new, better device will come out for T-Mo US soon after I get the HD2 that I'll regret having it.
Gosh, I'm torn. It's such a sexy device (were it not for the lack of a physical keyboard, it'd be perfect).
They're sold out online, so I havent been able to upgrade yet, I'm just hoping that HTC announces something new for T-Mo us that will make me want to abandon my dream finally (the hypexus one didn't cut it for me) before I'm able to upgrade.