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Superb Text Entry using Fingertouch ?

Does someone use the Fingertouch text input progi on the Touch?
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch
I'm wondering if this really solves the problem with text entry and make it possible to use the Touch with a single hand without stylus?
Possible to enter text while going on foot or driving in car?
Does it respond reliably?
Can you please report your experience?

IMAO, you're never going to achieve the sort of satisfying, one handed experience on a touch screen keyboard that you get with a real one, be it a slide out qwerty keyboard or a cellphone numberpad. However, I would be very interest too to hear the experiences of anyone who actually uses this product. I've tried others, such as Tengo but to be honest, it's still very much stylus based and as 'two handed' as using the default virtual qwerty keyboard it ships with.
By the way, using your phone/PDA whilst driving a car??? I think you'll find that's illegal in most countries now he he

I use HTK (Happy Tappings Keyboard), it's free and for me works great. I don't like using a stylus, and so far haven't had a need with this phone. The KB has slightly bigger keys, but just enough to completely change the experience. One handed use is very accurate and easy imho.
Google for it and give it a try (there are skins out there too, I use a black one that is quite good and fits well with the default theme). If you like it and want to make it default, search for Sipchange.

I use T9, found it right in here somewhere
Very fast and responsive, nice graphics too...
Phone Pad international...

Tried it, and I dislike it, will stick with HTK for now.

HTK and Pocket CM are my 2 favorite right now. What makes HTK so much better on the Touch over other HTC phones is that you can hit all the side buttons perfectly because of the flat flush screen.

I, have tried about every keyboard out there looking for the perfect one. I have tried the iphone wanna be, virtual, and fullscreen keyboards like.....tengo, spb full, happyT....... etc. etc. And I find no other better than the htc t9 Phone pad, big enough to type with one finger, so simple to switch from T9 entry to Abc, to just Number pad and use of symbols is just as quick to get to. Atleast for me there is nothing like it.

If you can't do one-handed input with HTC Phone Pad app, nothing else will!! I am even faster on the Phone Pad T9 than I am on those with hardware number pad, not kidding!! How can anyone not like Phone Pad?
God knows why HTC left the Phone Pad app out of the Touch, especially when they claimed you can do almost anything on the Touch without the stylus!!! With Phone Pad, I can say that is true!!
Tried Happy Tapping, didn't think much of it as the buttons are only a tag bit larger than the default keyboard.

for all the users which are okay with dictionary-based text entry tools like the Phone-Pad it might be the best solution for sure.
Well for me I have to switch between 3 langauges all the time and I also use many words which are not common and not in the dictionaries, so I need then to switch to ABC, so that's why I'm still looking for a full-sized keyboard method and the fingertouch by teksoftco seemed to fit well to me.
- You have almost the whole fullsized-keyboards which you can "really" operate with your fingers (happy-tiping etc. I really cannot...to small)
- And you still do see the original interface which is the disadvantage for me with SPB fullsize keyboard
But as I unfortunately sold my Touch because of the missing ideal text entry I cannot test it. Few days after I sold it the mentioned application came out

t9 phone pad for htc touch/elf
The phone pad works amazingly. Better than the HW keypads on other devices. It needs a bit of practice but the Touch is designed for finger use rather than stylus. the case is harder than other screens and responds to touch (it does not work with a glove on for that matter.
View attachment phonepad_atom_wwe.cab View attachment Default_IM_WM5.CAB.
Copy both the files to your device and install them. Reset the device once.
The default keypad on WM is the keyboard. To change it, Open IM selector from the programmes and select the default keyboard as phone pad. it works like a breeze hereafter.

fire00 said:
for all the users which are okay with dictionary-based text entry tools like the Phone-Pad it might be the best solution for sure.
Well for me I have to switch between 3 langauges all the time and I also use many words which are not common and not in the dictionaries, so I need then to switch to ABC, so that's why I'm still looking for a full-sized keyboard method and the fingertouch by teksoftco seemed to fit well to me.
- You have almost the whole fullsized-keyboards which you can "really" operate with your fingers (happy-tiping etc. I really cannot...to small)
- And you still do see the original interface which is the disadvantage for me with SPB fullsize keyboard
But as I unfortunately sold my Touch because of the missing ideal text entry I cannot test it. Few days after I sold it the mentioned application came out
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I agree. I also need to use it in several languages, so I cannot stick to a dictionary based t9-like keyboard. But I am happy with the fingertouch as I can type using one hand only, the buttons are quite big:
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Did any of you try the builtin macroing of the fingertouch? You can define short commands that do specific actions, for eg:
!cap , will capture screen, parameters can be changed here:HKLM, "Software\Teksoft\FingerTouch
!gre , do this in Notes or Pocket Word, will replace the trigger with a phrase, this is good if you need to type the same thing very often like greetings in an email
there are some other combinations, and the user can modify or add new ones:

Radhoo - I've tested it on Ubiquio 503G (which I sent back again a bit and as far as I know on one of the layouts which seemed the best one there are two letters each button. If you want to enter the second letter on button you have to type twice on that button right?
But what do you do when you want to type the first letter twice e.g. something with double "A"? Do you have to type first "A" then wait to allow a delay and to avoid that "S" gets entered and then type the second "A" ?

fire00 said:
But what do you do when you want to type the first letter twice e.g. something with double "A"? Do you have to type first "A" then wait to allow a delay and to avoid that "S" gets entered and then type the second "A" ?
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Yes you can do it that way
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Adjust the repeat rate from Options, and simply keep the key pressed
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Press the A then press something else that doesn't affect the writing (shift-shift) then press A again.
but what about the macroing, did anyone play with it?

gohyc said:
If you can't do one-handed input with HTC Phone Pad app, nothing else will!! I am even faster on the Phone Pad T9 than I am on those with hardware number pad, not kidding!! How can anyone not like Phone Pad?
God knows why HTC left the Phone Pad app out of the Touch, especially when they claimed you can do almost anything on the Touch without the stylus!!! With Phone Pad, I can say that is true!!
Tried Happy Tapping, didn't think much of it as the buttons are only a tag bit larger than the default keyboard.
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I would never use phonepad on the touch. You can design your own keyboard on HTK and make the buttons larger.

How do you do that? I love the phone pad, like amny have said, i've tried a bunch of them, and I keep coming back too the phone pad. I would use HTkb, if I can make the keys bigger, like half the screen.

hi people, where can I find happy tapping keyboard???
Thanks

maevro said:
I would never use phonepad on the touch. You can design your own keyboard on HTK and make the buttons larger.
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I'm interested to know this also..I like HTK but buttons are a little small. Have been trying "Fingertouch" not sure if I like it.
Plus after soft reset HTK always disappears. I understand adding the "default" keyboard selection as only required for WM5 devices. Is this needed with Touch to establish HTK as "default" after soft reset?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
Best to read the whole thread before installing as some people had problems when trying to select it as the default keyboard using 3rd party software and had to hard reset.

Happy Tapping Keyboard- GOOD!
doni said:
I use HTK (Happy Tappings Keyboard), it's free and for me works great. I don't like using a stylus, and so far haven't had a need with this phone. The KB has slightly bigger keys, but just enough to completely change the experience. One handed use is very accurate and easy imho.
Google for it and give it a try (there are skins out there too, I use a black one that is quite good and fits well with the default theme). If you like it and want to make it default, search for Sipchange.
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Thanks for sharing, I m very happy with HTK with my TOUCH.

Hi all,
Where can I download htk?
Help me please...

Compose text like using mobile phone! Champion.

I'm looking for scrolling key on phonepad like the 2abc, 3def, 4ghi etc... integrated with the concept from the PocketCM 0.15 (contact manager), which utilises "finger friendly scrolling to lettles to display contacts" function.
In this case, we are looking at "finger friendly scrolling to insert charecters"..!
For instant, our tumb press for a key 2abc, tumb press and scroll for choices of lettles a, b, c or number 2. Just like in PocketCM contacts scrolling.
It's not that qwerty pocketcm keyboard, but pretty much looking at pocketcm phonepad-to-be. It will be larger, faster, intuitive, one hand operational and also suits the mobile phone community... like me.

betatalking said:
I'm looking for scrolling key on phonepad like the 2abc, 3def, 4ghi etc... integrated with the concept from the PocketCM 0.15 (contact manager), which utilises "finger friendly scrolling to lettles to display contacts" function.
In this case, we are looking at "finger friendly scrolling to insert charecters"..!
For instant, our tumb press for a key 2abc, tumb press and scroll for choices of lettles a, b, c or number 2. Just like in PocketCM contacts scrolling.
It's not that qwerty pocketcm keyboard, but pretty much looking at pocketcm phonepad-to-be. It will be larger, faster, intuitive, one hand operational and also suits the mobile phone community... like me.
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To me it look like a very slow way to type.

tene said:
To me it look like a very slow way to type.
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I also believe that it would be slow to type in that way. Yes, keys would be bigger but the "hold button then chose character" function would slow the typing too much.
If you want the advantage of such big keys grouped like a phone pad, they will have to be associated to a T9 dictionary. In that way the typing will be really faster! Infact, even if Tene's PCM Keyboard is really fast and can also be used one-handed, typing with the HTC PhonePad is still faster.
Anyway I prefer PCM Keyboard for the hi (total) customization level, the pretty look of some skins, the buttons bubble... (I could continue for hours ).
Marshall

Marshall07 said:
If you want the advantage of such big keys grouped like a phone pad, they will have to be associated to a T9 dictionary. In that way the typing will be really faster! Infact, even if Tene's PCM Keyboard is really fast and can also be used one-handed, typing with the HTC PhonePad is still faster.
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You're faster with PhonePad? Any idea why?

I agree that the keyboard type faster.
In this case i'm actually looking for a one-hand operated text input method that we can use while on the go... like mobile phone sms. Even while driving! or walking. So our focus on the road won't gets much strayed off.
There're lots of people looking forwards for this function, esp for those doing much sms and used to the keypad layout day in day out. Some particulary choose Asus P525, for instant, simply for its keypad function is a great attraction factor.
The concept I'm bringing forward is intuitively integrated to our common habbitual style. Consider about it?

tene said:
You're faster with PhonePad? Any idea why?
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Fisrt of all I use both the SIPs one-handed. Maybe it's because I come from some years of "normal" phones and since I write lot of SMS I gained a big experience with the T9.
Omitting the little difference in the UI response time (it is very little IMHO), I think that having only a 3x3 buttons grid, your thumb will have to move only a little to pass from a character to another. So: the less distance my thumb has to "drive", the more the typing speed will increase.
Here is an example with the word "hello".
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Anyway, this is for a one-handed operation. If I use the stylus or two hands, the things may change (i didn't test the differences in those cases).
However, I still prefer using PCM Keyboard because I don't always need that speed (I'm talking about a very high speed ) in typing and the other (LOT) features it has, like the auto-correction to say one, make me prefer it.
@betatalking: Have you ever tried HTC PhonePad? It seems to have the features you are looking for.
Marshall

Marshall07 said:
Fisrt of all I use both the SIPs one-handed. Maybe it's because I come from some years of "normal" phones and since I write lot of SMS I gained a big experience with the T9.
Omitting the little difference in the UI response time (it is very little IMHO), I think that having only a 3x3 buttons grid, your thumb will have to move only a little to pass from a character to another. So: the less distance my thumb has to "drive", the more the typing speed will increase.
Here is an example with the word "hello".
Anyway, this is for a one-handed operation. If I use the stylus or two hands, the things may change (i didn't test the differences in those cases).
However, I still prefer using PCM Keyboard because I don't always need that speed (I'm talking about a very high speed ) in typing and the other (LOT) features it has, like the auto-correction to say one, make me prefer it.
@betatalking: Have you ever tried HTC PhonePad? It seems to have the features you are looking for.
Marshall
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Thanks for the detail.
It would be interresting to test completely different layout, I don't think it would work for most user out of the box, because or common keyboard layout are well known. But it could be interresting, also to help autocorrection, for instance, in french "colle" and "comme" are two correct words, and "l" and "m" are close or an french keyboard layout.
Regarding responsiveness, that's the price to pay for autocorrection, I fear. I'm still trying to get some milliseconds here and there, but I don't see huge performance gain coming... unless I drop the suggestino box following the caret, and do it in a separate box (which would remove lot of added value).

Hi Marshall, no doubt the HTC phonepad is the most popular amoung the cataglory, but let's make it more powerful by making it scrollable like what the PocketCM v0.15's contacts scrolling concept does.
That's press and hold a key > scroll for upto five charecters option > release to input. Compare to taping style, scrolling shld be much faster. It's much friendlyer to those with big fingers and also the elderly as well. Because each key is bigger we get less details while inputting.

I found a simple solution to that problem. I just grew my fingernail on my right thumb and I use PocketCM KB. Seriously.. it worked for me.

Personally, I prefer Phonepad. I suppose this is because I was a 'normal phone' user in the past. Most phones make use of 'T9' predictive text input, and doesn't have the full Qwerty keyboard. Thus, we are very use to the T9 style of text input.
For T9, you don't need as much accuracy in pressing the (bigger) key cos' you only need to press '43556' to input 'Hello' (and select the word from the suggestion list), instead of pressing 'H', 'E', 'L', 'L' & 'O', and the keys, by the way, are smaller.

Keyboard is good for composing long messages or scripts which long typing is less tedious with both hands griping the device. Whereas, with the support of t9, phonepad inputs can be real fast and accurate also with just one hand.
T9 for composing normal text is a blessing, but when entering names or otherwise we need that switch over button to do the abc or 123. We need another button for Shift and another for Symbols, Left Right etc..
Keeping t9 in view, the phonepad simplifies the UI, centralises the input area and provides more options with only a few buttons.
Above all, I'm using PocketCM keyboard and HTC phonepad for text and sms. They're simply the best I can enjoy currently.

betatalking said:
Keyboard is good for composing long messages or scripts which long typing is less tedious with both hands griping the device. Whereas, with the support of t9, phonepad inputs can be real fast and accurate also with just one hand.
T9 for composing normal text is a blessing, but when entering names or otherwise we need that switch over button to do the abc or 123. We need another button for Shift and another for Symbols, Left Right etc..
Keeping t9 in view, with Touchflo techology can simplifies the UI, centralises the input area and provides more options with only a few buttons.
Above all, I'm using PocketCM keyboard and HTC phonepad for text and sms. They're simply the best I can enjoy currently.
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I also wish I can use both PocketCM Keyboard and HTC Phonepad, but unfortunately, if I switch to PocketCM, I can't switch back to Phonepad without soft reset my phone.

check out tengo

My wm6 device don't have any problem switching between PCM and HTC phonepad so far. Could it be ur ppc's using too much resources at a time? Or maybe some backgrd program's causing the conflict...

What is the best keyboard SIP?

What is the best keyboard SIP out there that everybody uses (that is finger friendly)?
I would like one that fits alpha and numeric on one page, finger friendly, have predictive text but not rely so much on it to function on a daily basis, and also don't cram too many functions on each key.
I know PocketCM keyboard is very popular but sometimes it doesn't work unless you install a SIP changer also. Also, I don't like the fact that numbers are not on the same screen as letters.
Touchpal and TapTap I think have big buttons but at the expense of craming too much functionality on each key and thus relying too much on predictive text.
The OEM Touch keypad/keyboard also i think is cumbersome to remember how to achieve certain numbers and symbols with too many gesture patterns. It has an option to have full number and alphabet keypad all the time but then you lose predictive text (T9).
The keyboard I find myself using the most is the default WM6 keyboard but switched to Large keys and then turn on keyboard gestures. Each key has only two functions, the default displayed function and one by sliding up. For letters, sliding up capitalize that letter. Sliding up on numbers gets you the symbol (like shift key). Slide left gives you backspace, right gives you space and down gives you enter. Everything you need is on one screen. I only wish the buttons were slightly bigger for more finger friendly use even at the expense of taking up more real estate. Also, I wish it was skinnable.
i wish PocketCM would take a look at this and come up with an alternate layout like what I described above and yet still be skinnable with bigger buttons like they have done.

superflysocal said:
What is the best keyboard SIP out there that everybody uses (that is finger friendly)?
I would like one that fits alpha and numeric on one page, finger friendly, have predictive text but not rely so much on it to function on a daily basis, and also don't cram too many functions on each key.
I know PocketCM keyboard is very popular but sometimes it doesn't work unless you install a SIP changer also. Also, I don't like the fact that numbers are not on the same screen as letters.
Touchpal and TapTap I think have big buttons but at the expense of craming too much functionality on each key and thus relying too much on predictive text.
The OEM Touch keypad/keyboard also i think is cumbersome to remember how to achieve certain numbers and symbols with too many gesture patterns. It has an option to have full number and alphabet keypad all the time but then you lose predictive text (T9).
The keyboard I find myself using the most is the default WM6 keyboard but switched to Large keys and then turn on keyboard gestures. Each key has only two functions, the default displayed function and one by sliding up. For letters, sliding up capitalize that letter. Sliding up on numbers gets you the symbol (like shift key). Slide left gives you backspace, right gives you space and down gives you enter. Everything you need is on one screen. I only wish the buttons were slightly bigger for more finger friendly use even at the expense of taking up more real estate. Also, I wish it was skinnable.
i wish PocketCM would take a look at this and come up with an alternate layout like what I described above and yet still be skinnable with bigger buttons like they have done.
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Have you tried modifying one of the existing layouts to your needs? It's just a text file.

try Resco Keyboard. Its really cool. There is only a few bugs. You can't type 28 January

happy tapping keyboard! thumb suited for asian, but i doubt for non-asian with very large thumb...

Agree 100%
superflysocal said:
The OEM Touch keypad/keyboard also i think is cumbersome to remember how to achieve certain numbers and symbols with too many gesture patterns. It has an option to have full number and alphabet keypad all the time but then you lose predictive text (T9).
The keyboard I find myself using the most is the default WM6 keyboard but switched to Large keys and then turn on keyboard gestures. Each key has only two functions, the default displayed function and one by sliding up. For letters, sliding up capitalize that letter. Sliding up on numbers gets you the symbol (like shift key). Slide left gives you backspace, right gives you space and down gives you enter. Everything you need is on one screen. I only wish the buttons were slightly bigger for more finger friendly use even at the expense of taking up more real estate. Also, I wish it was skinnable.
i wish PocketCM would take a look at this and come up with an alternate layout like what I described above and yet still be skinnable with bigger buttons like they have done.
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The standard WM6 kb with large keys and gestures enabled gives you access to everything you need all on one page.
Just needs to be slightly bigger and a little more skinnable. I wonder if there's anything out there.
Obviously PocketCM is not an option because it lacks gestures.
spbFullScreenKeyoard DID have gestures but is a bit of an odd layout. Doesn't have gestures any more although spb are thinking about it because they've had a lot of requests.
Still searching...

i like the touchpal keyboard
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Xue v.2 said:
happy tapping keyboard! thumb suited for asian, but i doubt for non-asian with very large thumb...
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What about Yao Ming?
I have seen a PCM keyboard skin with alpha and numeric on the same screen. Don't know where but I do know I saw it. PCM is the best IMHO because you can form it to almost anything.

Another vote for TouchPal. It was the only thing that moved me away from the PhonePad predictive T9.

Xue v.2 said:
happy tapping keyboard! thumb suited for asian, but i doubt for non-asian with very large thumb...
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You're joking right?

If you give PCM keyboard a chance, it actually works really really well... The layout is very customizable and the error correction works really well making it very thumb friendly.
You can also easily customize the keys to print numbers when holding down a key but I prefer the second layout for numbers.
and just use switchSIP tool to load the keyboard as the default keyboard.
I like it the beset cause it doesn't take up much screen space.

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Have you tried modifying one of the existing layouts to your needs? It's just a text file.
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are you talking about PocketCM or wm6 default KB?

ah, poor Xue v.2, if s/he is actually still using HappyTappingKeyboard. i find that that keyboard is still wayyy too small. PCM Keyboard (pocketcm keyboard) has come out to be a near exact copy of the iPhone's keyboard, and i mean that in a 100% positive way. you have the ability to slide your finger around to find the right letter, you can hold down on certain buttons to reach more buttons (hard to explain. but easily recognizable), and it has a great autocorrection feature (add a bigger english dictionary, i'm using one that has 57,000 US words, from the pocketcm "phorums").
That's great for show, but for work, I use TouchPal. It is just amazing, check the website that was posted in this thread earlier.

My my... ahahaha, I'm not joking or anything, I just feel that happy tapping keyboard is best suited for me. As I don't use english very much - I'm asian btw- although my gf is a native english speaker who live abroad, it doesn't matter, so I don't need that dictionary, in fact, I was looking for a real simple SIP (memory management thing, hahaha).
Any way, I'll look into pocket CM keyboard...

PocketCM if you do type a lot of non-standard english... you can have skin it to make it so that symbols and numbers are easily accessible.
touchpal is absolutely awesome if you type normal english...

Touch Pal hands down.

tonyrome6 said:
Touch Pal hands down.
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tried touchpal but too many function in 1 key makes it too hard to get use to.
I didn't know about PocketCM customization, not bad. I was able to put a symbol pad with numbers onto the space bar. I will probably map a symbol pad to each letter with its corresponding capital letter so no need for shift key. Is there a way to customize what is displayed onto each key? For instance if I want to do a row of numbers but then have it mapped to a symbol as a symbol pad, I want display that symbol on the upper right hand corner of that key so I know what key it is. Basically, I trying to mimic default WM6 KB with gesture layout.

What is the best keyboard SIP
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eurokeyboard..
imo, of coz.

PCM Keyboard is very customizable, but the time bomb is a deal breaker.

I'm alternating between touchpal and pcmkeyboard - pcmkeyboard is awesome w/ the big english dictionary (the default dictionary sucks...) - and with one of the larger skins...
Touchpal is better for quick sms's where a typo here or there doesn't really matter...
-mark

I just preferred the standard WM6 keyboard after trying out many. I even pay for Touchpal for the smaller key pads. But it is always in the middle of typing something happens that really slows things down. For example, you are sending your friend a password, when you get to the password part you have to take it out of the predictive word mode and enter the letter mode. When it get to the "." you have to enter a backspace first. When enter a person's name you have to think how to make sure it capitalize the first letter. All in all, I have been practice Touchpal but still couldn't get the hang of it. I leave it to the younger people.

change WM keyboard layout ?

I have a ww english version of the Touch 3G
The HTC software keyboard (called "Full QWERTY") nicely follows regional settings, and hence displays the AZERTY layout matching my language
The WM OS software keyboard (called "Keyboard") keeps defaulting to QWERTY...
But here comes the trick: I have an "old" bluetooth foldable keyboard (was working fine with my QTEK S100), that I am trying to use with my Touch 3G; the layout of this hardware keyboard is AZERTY.
2 options, 2 problems:
option #1: use the latest drivers available for the keyboard (which is no longer supported by the manufacturer); unfortunately,the drivers apparently don't like wm 6.1 and cause crashes in the services.exe module.
option #2 : have the keyboard recognized by wm 6.1 as standard HID BT device ("Think Outside Keyboard"): that works, despite some functionality loss I can live with, but the keyboard layout is wrong, b/c the device OS is ww english, and hence the layout is QWERTY, regardless of the regional settings....Apparently, this follows the logic of the WM OS software keyboard, not the HTC soft keyboard...
Question: in order to make option #2 work: I would need to tweak the OS to use the AZERTY keyboard layout instead of the default QWERTY... any way to accomplish that ?

try this
hi
try below link it is finger keyboard and it supports all languages and real nice one
hope it solves ur problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3395347&postcount=1

Great, I'll have a look at it
Do you think it will allow to change the layout mismatch of my HARDWARE keyboard ?

haree said:
hi
try below link it is finger keyboard and it supports all languages and real nice one
hope it solves ur problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3395347&postcount=1
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Can you advice which version of FingerKeyb 2.1 work perfect in HTC Touch 3g (Jade).
Although, Jade already have Full Qwert keypad, which is quite comfortable, but it gets deformatted once I manually change the orientation to Landscape (using QuickMenu).
So, basically I'm looking for a keypad similiar or better than Full Qwerty Keypad to use in Landscape orientation.
Thanks in advance!!

meet_bijoy said:
Can you advice which version of FingerKeyb 2.1 work perfect in HTC Touch 3g (Jade).
Although, Jade already have Full Qwert keypad, which is quite comfortable, but it gets deformatted once I manually change the orientation to Landscape (using QuickMenu).
So, basically I'm looking for a keypad similiar or better than Full Qwerty Keypad to use in Landscape orientation.
Thanks in advance!!
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You can try this one:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/keyboard/
The landscape-mode is very good, IMO, but you have to buy it after a free trial-time.

MvBoe said:
You can try this one:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/keyboard/
The landscape-mode is very good, IMO, but you have to buy it after a free trial-time.
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Ya, I heard about Spb Keyboard is good, but as of now not willing to pay. Looking for some nice Keyboard utility for Free.

hi, actually, can we turn t3g into lanscape mode during msg?or does it need another software to support it?

[DEV][WM6.5.x]Working EzInput w/ SIP

Hey great minds of XDA. I have a project I'm working on and it might be an easy one. The goal is to have a fully functional EzInput that works on the later WM6.5.x builds (23034+)
The good news is that I'm almost there. I've been gathering various EzInput builds from around the forum and finally got a package that has a working SIP menu and a working Compact style keyboard (along with the regular QWERTY keyboard).
I'll post some pictures of my progress and all of my EzInput packages I've used to get this far but the SIP Menu displays "Keyboard", "Full QWERTY", "Compact Keyboard", and "Phone Keypad". Selecting all but the Full QWERTY puts up the stock WM keyboard.
I've yet to find a fully functional Phone Keypad style from any package that works with WM6.5.1. The most I've gotten a Phone Keypad is one that just produces the SHIFT characters (@, ., ', !, etc)
I'm really close and with help of the community we can get it working. Once we get a fully working product we can start to build on it and upgrade it as needed.
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Here is the packages I'm working on. There are 3 packages and I will explain the Pros/Cons of each one.
DOWNLOAD HERE
EzInput 1.5 (from a Fuze ROM)
This package has a working SIP menu. Unfortunately the alternative keyboard layouts appear to be "stuck" in a shift mode. PhonePad and Compact both only insert characters and numbers (the alternative character for each button). Only the Full QWERTY keyboard works when selected from the SIP.
EzInput 2.0 (found by jsm0372)
This package has the newer GUI look. In this package the QWERTY and the Compact keyboard layout works great, but there is not a SIP menu to select them. The only way to alternate between the two styles is by using one of the SIP changer apps floating around here.
EzInputTEST (a mix of both, depicted above)
QWERTY works great, as always. Compact QWERTY works great. SIP Menu shows each of the keyboards but actually activate EXCEPT the FULL Keyboard. The others simply change to the stock WM keyboard.
Observations:
It appears that in the 1.5 package, it uses the old method for inserting keyboard selections in the SIP menu via the registry. In 2.0 it appears that it relies on an EXE file to swap between the styles. I'm almost there. I just need to connect the links in the SIP menu to the actual keyboard style. I am at a loss. This is where I need some community lovin.
Lets get this ball rollin'
Here it is again:
DOWNLOAD HERE

that great!
QVGA or VGA?

Well my packages are VGA. I guess thats important.

change the font for the keyboard to Tahoma and you will get all characters showing up. I also have an idea how to get the keyboard options to show up tell you soon

When you say that the compact qwerty from EzInput 2.0 (found by jsm0372) is working is that on a Fuze or touch pro? I only ask because so far every EzInput 2.0/2.1 build I have tried only the full keyboards work. When I try to use the compact or phone pad they seem to be stuck in shift mode like you said was the problem with EzInput 1.5 (from a Fuze ROM)

I wonder if this is resolution specific?
I'm on blackstone with my own latest Leo rom, with latest leo ezsip and 23071
Everything works exactly as it should do.

smokeydonuts said:
When you say that the compact qwerty from EzInput 2.0 (found by jsm0372) is working is that on a Fuze or touch pro? I only ask because so far every EzInput 2.0/2.1 build I have tried only the full keyboards work. When I try to use the compact or phone pad they seem to be stuck in shift mode like you said was the problem with EzInput 1.5 (from a Fuze ROM)
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I'm using a FUZE. In that EzInput 2.0 package I posted above, the Compact Keyboard works. It is the only version I've tested that it works on. Right now the only way to use the keyboard is to use a SIP changer app.
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Yea it works because you are using biotouch for the new menu style. Are you using that menu style across your rom or just for the SIP menu?
I've played with the patched biotouch.dll but when using, the SIP menu works... but you lose finger scrolling in Messaging, Contacts, etc. So it is not a good fix. The goal is to get the standard WM SIP menu to change keyboards.

I have same problem with my rom..23060..anyway looking for a solution but layout of keyboard must be new(from diamond2) will try those test files

fards said:
I wonder if this is resolution specific?
I'm on blackstone with my own latest Leo rom, with latest leo ezsip and 23071
Everything works exactly as it should do.
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any chance you can dump the full registry and your packages?
has anyone tried to fix the control panel for the input settings? in 6.5 we have to delete the "redirect" entry. maybe we just need to point it to the right dll? I have a feeling that the dll name is SIPutil.dll without it the workaround using mort runner does not work.
I also made a cab for those files as well as hwrproxy which helps to deal with the touch screen a little better.
in any case, I have gotten some of the parts of the mega packages working seamlessly with the opal keyboard 1.5
so I think that there has to be some of a hooking mechanism to get it to work right. maybe I will try to read the files with a hex editor but I would have a better idea if I had a full reg from a device that this works on.

I'm guessing that's Ezinput 2.0 W/VGA versions issue... I'm using EzInput 1.5 on a QVGA device from build 210501 up to the current 23064 i'm using and never had issues with Keypad/20Keys thingie or even full Qwerty using the regular QVGA package... That's with the Input Menu working too...

player911 said:
I'm using a FUZE. In that EzInput 2.0 package I posted above, the Compact Keyboard works. It is the only version I've tested that it works on. Right now the only way to use the keyboard is to use a SIP changer app.
@fards
Yea it works because you are using biotouch for the new menu style. Are you using that menu style across your rom or just for the SIP menu?
I've played with the patched biotouch.dll but when using, the SIP menu works... but you lose finger scrolling in Messaging, Contacts, etc. So it is not a good fix. The goal is to get the standard WM SIP menu to change keyboards.
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I'm just using bog standard biotouch.dll from Blackstone..
I need that one to get the bottom 4 buttons working.
yes I use the Htc menu across the rom.

maybe it has something to do with the HTC Utilities dll?

Hey!
Here is fully working Russian EzInput 2.1 QVGA.
Tested on WM6.1 21055

After several days new EzInput 2.1 issue is found:
All custom words in XT9 My Words List disappear after Soft Reset.
Description: EzInput 2.1 adds my new words to My Words list and suggests them while I'm typing. I can use "XT9 My Words" program to edit this list.
But if I reset my device this list is empty again.
Who knows how to fix it?
Does anybody have this bug?
I'm using
WM6.1 build 21055
IME_Engine_Western_2_1_19191429_00
IME_EzInput_Western_2_1_19183030_00

What languages and devices are supported on this keyboard?

The Nikoan89 ezInput 2.1 v2.2 is not displaying correctly on my Diamond WM 6.5.1 build 23088.5.3.00 (ROM: BSB 6.5.1F). The pressures are registered and text is coming, but there's something seriously wrong with the graphics:
If you could post a cab for the ezInputTEST, I can try that one as well.

Each one of those packages were imperfect. The keyboards have issues with WM6.5.1 (23016+). The goal of this thread was to find a solution. I simply posted my work because I reached a point where I could not go any further.
The only working solution I've found is to use a biotouch.dll method. The SIP menu will be an HTC version but it at least works.
I eventually gave up for lack of interest and because I got a Topaz Pure Diamond 2. It's keyboard packages work very well (WVGA) even without the HTC Menu enhancements throughout the rom. Right now I am using the stock WM menus but the SIP menu is still HTC.

I got the compact qwerty of the Nikoan89 ezinput 2.1 to work on the Bsb ROM, actually..! Direct link here.