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Hello Forum!
I would like to update Leo's ROM (HTC, German Stock-ROM) from 1.43.407.1 to 1.48.407.1. BUT, I don't want to install all programs and tweak my baby again (not to forget all the emails and outlook settings, SMS etc.). Is there a way of doing a backup, which can effectively "survive" a ROM update, or is this simply not possible without coruption? Normally I use Sprite Backup 6.5.5 for my phone backup, but it does not tell me to many things about what will happen if a backup would be applied to the phone after ROM update. By the way. I don't think Sprite Backup will backup the ROM itself but just the other data on the internal memory, does it?
Thank you in advance folks!
Studebaker
hi,
spritebackup is trying to be smart on restore, so you can chose how it should behaive on restoring after romupdate. when i remember it rigth there are 3 or 4 options to choose from when you start a restore, they are listed at there website and in the manual/helpfile.
Hello madbird,
Yes, I noticed that. I just want to make sure that it really does work even after ROM update. What I do not want is problems afterwards. Anybody tried already?
Thanks guys!
Studebaker
I have been using SPB Backup's ROM upgrade mode on my Polaris for restoring of my settings & applications over sequential ROM upgrades.
Apart from some minor issues it really saved me a lot of reconfiguring time.
Naturally I haven't been able to try it on Leo, since custom ROMs can't be flashed yet.
Studebaker72 said:
Hello Forum!
I would like to update Leo's ROM (HTC, German Stock-ROM) from 1.43.407.1 to 1.48.407.1. BUT, I don't want to install all programs and tweak my baby again (not to forget all the emails and outlook settings, SMS etc.). Is there a way of doing a backup, which can effectively "survive" a ROM update, or is this simply not possible without coruption? Normally I use Sprite Backup 6.5.5 for my phone backup, but it does not tell me to many things about what will happen if a backup would be applied to the phone after ROM update. By the way. I don't think Sprite Backup will backup the ROM itself but just the other data on the internal memory, does it?
Thank you in advance folks!
Studebaker
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In order to restore and at the same time 100% incorporate all changes introduced by the rom upgrade you need 2 additional procedures (apart from a backup software).
1) Overwrite the new registry over the old registry
2) Overwrite the new double copy files over the old double copy files.
The first Step can be easily done in the following way
After upgrading you install Resco Registry.
You export the entire registry.
You restore the old backup image
Finally you re-import the previously exported reg file.
This will overwrite all keys that were changed during the rom upgrade.
Regarding the second step, let me quickly explain to you what I mean with double copy files.
After hard resetting your device and during the first boot, a customization tool is running in the background that copies some files from the rom (and the windows folder) to the storage memory (and different folders).
If you restore the previous rom image, these files will be overwritten with old versions. You can partially overcome this issue if the double copy files are both found in the same directory (f.e. Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe in Windows folder).
In this case you delete the duplicated file in storage and apart from releasing some mbs of free space you also use the latest version, which always resides in rom. This procedure can not be followed with files and folders that are copied during the customization process from Windows folder to other folders.
In order to overcome this issue and to be able to restore a previous image incorporating at the same time all the changes introduced by the upgrade, we have to find a way and activate the customization tool after completing the restore process. In this way the double copy files will be re-overwritten with the newer ones.
Check also this thread.
Finally another way to rebuild your system without much effort is to setup Sashimi once and then use it to quickly reinstall everything.
Hello Step2p!
Thank you so much for taking some time for that really interesting answer. The registry, yes, I guesses that could be a problem. Please let me comment to your points, because I'm in no way an expert in that:
The first Step can be easily done in the following way:
-After upgrading you install Resco Registry. => OK
-You export the entire registry. => Ahm, OK...
-You restore the old backup image => Yes, because I want to have my tweaked registry from the "old" ROM back.
-Finally you re-import the previously exported reg file. => Ouch. Than my tweaked and modified entries will all be gone. Right?
This will overwrite all keys that were changed during the rom upgrade. => And also all the former ones will be overwriten by new ones??
Did I get that right? After your procedure my old tweaks will be history, just because the new registry that we will have remaining at last will be pure as snow. New and unmodified.
Thanks again,
Studebaker
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Hello Step2p!
Thank you so much for taking some time for that really interesting answer. The registry, yes, I guesses that could be a problem. Please let me comment to your points, because I'm in no way an expert in that:
The first Step can be easily done in the following way:
-After upgrading you install Resco Registry. => OK
-You export the entire registry. => Ahm, OK...
-You restore the old backup image => Yes, because I want to have my tweaked registry from the "old" ROM back.
-Finally you re-import the previously exported reg file. => Ouch. Than my tweaked and modified entries will all be gone. Right?
This will overwrite all keys that were changed during the rom upgrade. => And also all the former ones will be overwriten by new ones??
Did I get that right? After your procedure my old tweaks will be history, just because the new registry that we will have remaining at last will be pure as snow. New and unmodified.
Thanks again,
Studebaker
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Yes, you will lose all system registry tweaks (but not 3rd party tweaks). Unfortunately it is almost impossible to have the latest registry without losing these tweaks.
But updating the registry is an important step, because many of the bug fixes are actually registry tweaks that we never find.
In order to overcome this issue you have 2 options
1) Use an application like BsB tweaks which allows you to quickly setup the main registry tweaks
2) Create a reg file (or better a cab file) with all the tweaks that you are doing. After importing the registry you can run it in order to re-overwrite the tweaks.
Oh yes, a cab file sounds great to restore my tweaks! I just have no idea how to do that. How to convert my registry tweaks into a cab file, is there some software available to do the trick? Sorry for my stupid questions, that's like rocket science for me....
WinCe CabManager is very easy to use.
If you find it difficult you can export your keys using Resco Registry and then join the individual keys using a text editor.
Yes! said:
I have been using SPB Backup's ROM upgrade mode on my Polaris for restoring of my settings & applications over sequential ROM upgrades.
Apart from some minor issues it really saved me a lot of reconfiguring time.
Naturally I haven't been able to try it on Leo, since custom ROMs can't be flashed yet.
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Hello Yes!
May I ask what kind of "minor issues" you are refering to?
Thank you!
Studebaker
Studebaker72 said:
Hello Yes!
May I ask what kind of "minor issues" you are refering to?
Thank you!
Studebaker
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Well, firstly i had some issues with the mail accounts.
After restoring in ROM upgrade mode all mail accounts were available and working. However it seemed like their configuration had not been fully restored.
When i wanted to modify an account (i.e. synch frequency) i had to completely reconfigure the accont, since its configuration wasn't there.
The issue only became noticeable when the account option need to be adjusted.
Secondly i also had the feeling (might be subjective) that the cycle of backing up, upgrading, restoring (in ROM upgrade mode), backing up (from previously restored rom), upgrading, restoring (in ROM upgrade mode) etc....pollutes the image somehow.
I have gone through the cycle for 5 or 6 upgrades without noticeable problems, but i'm not sure how it will behave after more cycles or after a major upgrade.
For so far i've only used ROM upgrade restores on my Polaris but i will try it on my Leo tonight.
I will post my findings here after upgrading.
Thank you, that is very interresting! Sprite Backup is a very powerful tool, no doubt! But to recover every little detail after a ROM update seems too good to be true. The registry scares me, the registry from the 1.48 might not be identical to the 1.43. But the backup will plaster all the old settings over it, can that be OK?? Who knows...
Hello,
I'm sorry if I shouldn't post this here, but I think this is the right place.
Please, is there any solution how to make complete ROM image from my tweaked HD2? I've installed official ROM (1.48), changed some registry settings, installed some programs and now I want to put this tweaked ROM to another HD2 mobile.
Thank you very much!
yes, use spb backup, it makes a full backup, custom backup or scheduled backup of anything. I am using it and its verry good at what it does.
Thanks.
SPB backup can backup the full ROM and anything else (all programs, registry tweaks, localization) and recovery that to another phone, totally from scratch?: )
yes SPB backup can backup the full ROM and anything else (all programs, registry tweaks, localization) and restore that, but if that other phone is a different brand i dont know how the backup will solve compatibility issues regarding registry or 3rd party settings.
I don't think so
My (official) ROM had 180MB, then I installed some programs and SPBBackup has now only 80MB. So I think SPBBackup doesn't backup all the windows files.
I need a tool, which can create image (LEOIMG.nbh) for use with CustomRUU.exe on another HTC HD2.
i guess i misunderstood your point, in this case you'll have to use some cooking rom utilities, see Rom thread for this. sorry.
Anyway, thank you.
I take it that you want to clone the device?! As long as you are using two identical devices (i.e. two HTC HD2's) SpriteClone could be your answer. Try here: http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-clone
Hope this helps.
Phil
@ admin: if this thread is not in the right forum, please feel free to move it. I am not sure where to put it.
Guys,
I found a new version of the HTC Messaging client version HTCMessaging_Client_1_8_20152127_00. It is a part from a new rom version 2015. I have all the files (see attachment), but I don't know how to make a cab file from it. Also I am not sure if all the files are the correct WWE files.
Anybody to help?
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Guys,
I found a new version of the HTC Messaging client version HTCMessaging_Client_1_8_20152127_00. It is a part from a new rom version 2015. I have all the files (see attachment), but I don't know how to make a cab file from it. Also I am not sure if all the files are the correct WWE files.
Anybody to help?
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these are not WWE
This HTC Messaging Client is from a CHT ROM, right? If that's the case, it might not support other characters than CHT ones! Had such an issue when I tried a SKT-based Messaging Client from Leo_SKT_1.78.911.1 ROM!
I can make a cab for you, but what's news on this version?
New version is MUCH faster... It's now realy usable. Still a lot of bugs while receiviing sms is messaging window.
CAB have proper 409 mui and send button:
Disable Manila > install > reset > Enable Manila
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6780053#post6780053
here the cab!
sorry i don't see the post of krogoth! Choose your cab so
how come the file size is so different. 6.68mb vs 2.32mb
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how come the file size is so different. 6.68mb vs 2.32mb
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Hum now my cab is about 3.3Mo (i update it (V2)) i use compress and he uses normal!
krogoth's .cab installs on energyRom rhodium, plain 2.5 on 23xxx. still checking features, but seems to be fine so far. I'll report speed after restoring SMS from MyPhone.
G-ThGraf's .cab installs, but does not integrate with NRGZ28's sense.
krogoth said:
New version is MUCH faster... It's now realy usable. Still a lot of bugs while receiviing sms is messaging window.
CAB have proper 409 mui and send button:
Disable Manila > install > reset > Enable Manila
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Thanks for the cab! This is a version without the secure box. Can you please make a cab with the mui for secure box included?
Thanks again, anyway.
I have not tested it yet, but here's HTC Messaging Client v1.8.2016 from the Rom that has Manila 2015 core. I included the 0409 files I use with V1.8.2015. (This is an EXT package is someone wants to create a cab from it)
I also attached the Send key files so you have the send icon, instead of the CHT text where the send icon should be.
i can work on it but i'm curently using manila core 2013
I am desperately waiting for this cab.. Did anyone make a cab out of this..
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I am desperately waiting for this cab.. Did anyone make a cab out of this..
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I already made this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700495
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I already made this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700495
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hey G-ThGraf,
i cant seem to get this to work and i have several questions which i'd really appreciate if you could enlighten me.
1) what is the difference between 2015 and 2016, and why the 1 vs 3 mui files?
2) are the steps to delete and restore messages necessary for the installl to work or are they in place to simply protect ones messages? i ask because i dont care about my messages and it is a bit of a pain to delete, save, restore.
3) regardless of how i attempt to do this i always end up with one of two results:
a) i cannot access my text message application at all
b) i can briefly open the text message app, but it quickly closes and i cannot actually access any messages
if it helps at all:
1) i run spb wms3.5.5 and have sense disabled 100% of the time
2) im on a tmous 2.13 rom, stock.
not sure if there is any further pertinent info but i'd love to get this working and it seems others with my setup have it working.
id really appreciate your feedback.
thanks
jason
Originally Posted by jason370
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hey G-ThGraf,
i cant seem to get this to work and i have several questions which i'd really appreciate if you could enlighten me.
1) what is the difference between 2015 and 2016, and why the 1 vs 3 mui files?
2) are the steps to delete and restore messages necessary for the installl to work or are they in place to simply protect ones messages? i ask because i dont care about my messages and it is a bit of a pain to delete, save, restore.
3) regardless of how i attempt to do this i always end up with one of two results:
a) i cannot access my text message application at all
b) i can briefly open the text message app, but it quickly closes and i cannot actually access any messages
if it helps at all:
1) i run spb wms3.5.5 and have sense disabled 100% of the time
2) im on a tmous 2.13 rom, stock.
not sure if there is any further pertinent info but i'd love to get this working and it seems others with my setup have it working.
id really appreciate your feedback.
thanks
jason
UPDATE:
ive made great strides. despite the fact that i never have sense enabled, this is indeed an integral step in the process (otherwise i just got lucky). so here were my steps to success:
1) back up text messages using spb backup
2) permanently delete all messages
3) disable sense (it was already disabled)
4) soft reset
5) install cab (which was transferred to microSD beforehand)
6) press cancel after install to decline restart
7) DID NOT INSTALL THE MUI
8) soft reset
9) enable sense
10) DIDNT BOTHER TO RETRIEVE MY MESSAGES YET
11) Soft reset
12) checked that messaging worked IN sense (and that is was 1.8)
13) DISABLED sense and now this seems to be working perfectly in SPB winmo shell 3.5.5
updates to follow as i progress deeper down the rabbit hole.
jason
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My Device:
HTC HD2 (Leo)
OS: WM 6.5 '5.2.21892'
ROM: 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE
RADIO: 2.10.50.26
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3
go here if you want a working 2016 messaging client that installs on the rhodium or hd2 (probably others too as long as its wvga): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6913148&postcount=746
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Guys,
I found a new version of the HTC Messaging client version HTCMessaging_Client_1_8_20152127_00. It is a part from a new rom version 2015. I have all the files (see attachment), but I don't know how to make a cab file from it. Also I am not sure if all the files are the correct WWE files.
Anybody to help?
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thanks!thanks!thanks!thanks!
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
i don't think it is possible to back-up your current rom n settings.
corlygunnz said:
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
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Check the Energy ROM thread. There is some talk of it in post #5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
i did it with my o2 rom just to see how to do it, but in all honesty i won't be doing it again. No point when the rom is available to download, and it doesnt save settings anyway. Ive posted teh how-to just because you asked about 'dumping the rom' so it will no doubt get hits from epople wanting to know how, and not just people like you wanting to backup, not dump.
dump the .raw partitions, reading step one in THIS first post will help.
Then set up ervius visual kitchen and use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
BUT, it wont save your rom as it is now, with all your settings and such, it will only dump the rom as it was when you first ran the phone.
Far easier to just download the stock rom from somewhere.
Plus the rom you create even though it is stock will still be seen as a cooked rom by teh phone, so you would need hspl installed to flash it.
So, you need to look more into backup software, like sprite backup, PIm backup, or sashimi/makisu, or the like.
thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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Yea, i know what you mean.
I found a cooked rom that i liked, and the chef also offered the kitchen with it. (which means i run the kitchen, press 'build' and fifteen minutes later the rom is created, ready to flash.)
Then, knowing i have a rom that i already like, i can start to make small adjustments. Progs that i normally have to reinstal every time i have converted to cookable packages, various registry tweaks that i used to instal from cab every time i have now cooked in.
A great way to get an easy intro into cooking, but because it's already built you aren't starting from a stock rom, facing weeks of tweaks. Instead i know i already like the rom, and i can slowly apply extra tweaks as i learn.
Look out for rom threads who offer 'comes with kitchen'.
ChuckyROM is the one that comes to mind, but there are others too.
I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
My rom is down to around 145MB. (Stock is around 200MB+).
Best of all, i cooked in 'remotetracker', so if my phone gets stolen/lost, , even a hard reset wont stop it being trackable.
Fun stuff, if you dont mind spending a few hours at a time cooking/flashing/re-cooking/flashing/re-re-cooking, , , hehe
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I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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well its not that simple. when a chef cooks the rom, it is usually protected, so you cant just dump a cooked rom. Thats why you have to get a pre built kitchen for that rom.
Sadly there is no simple step by step for all this.
THIS thread is for OSKitchen, which is pretty good, and fairly straightforward.
I suggest you just get a kitchen, dump a stock rom into it, and just have a look around it for a while first, so you get the idea of what you are facing.
Follow posts 1 - 4 and that should give you an evenings tinkering to get started.
Or there is ervius' visual kitchen, which isn't quite so straight forward, but works really well for me.
Reading HERE and HERE and HERE
and lots of reading in 'Chef Central'
However, to get immediate results, i found it far better to start with a pre built kitchen.
HERE is the one i first started to tinker with.
I gave up on kitchens a half dozen times in the past months, it just seems so overwhelming, which is why a ready made rom i could make minor tweaks to came in so handy.
thanks allot, I'm going to get to it right away. I'll post if I hit a wall.
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
corlygunnz said:
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
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convert it to an ext package, which will generate a folder with various files/subfiles, one of which is a reg file, edit that, add your registry entries (extracted from your currently running phone, using ceregistry editor ((if you dont already have them, immediately you finish reading this go get wincecab manager, ceregistry editor, and look up CAB_Converter too.)))
Use cab converter to change the cab into an ext.
as always, the best advice is to read everything, then read it again, hehe.
A working example.
connect your phone to usb, open ceregistry editor, click connect, browse to HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home There are 80 or so numbered folders, Thats for the quicklinks.
In the tree view on the left, right click the folder Home and choose 'export'. A file save dialog will open, call it something like home, OK. You should get something like '81 keys exported'
Now, browse to the folder where the converted cookies EXT is, find the file 'app.reg'. Double click to open it in ceregistry editor, you will see a similar registry view as you saw on the phone, except with loads less entries. Find HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home, select the home folder, hit delete, confirm, its now gone.
Go to top of ceregistry editor - hit Edit - Import registry keys from file.
Now, by default it will be looking for .reg files, but we exported ours as .cereg, so change the filetype dropdown to 'all files'.
Find your 'home.cereg' file we exported, click it, you will get a 'sucessfully imported,....blahblah', hit save, and now, when you cook the rom, your quicklinks will already be there as soon as the phone first boots.
Use SPB backup
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
fhaines said:
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
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i just got me the spb backup, and is working great for me. thanks.
The simple solution here is SPB Backup...
EDIT: oops, jumped the gun. was already suggested. xD
glad you got it figured out
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use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
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This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
ohiosux said:
This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
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sure you want to bother? it wont save your settings as they are now, so you are essentially dumping the stock rom as it was when you got the phone (Assuming you're running a stock rom that is, if its a cooked rom it probably wont convert anyway)
All (most) of teh stock roms are available to download, so its an accademic task only, , , ,
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sure you want to bother? its an accademic task only, , , ,
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Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
ohiosux said:
Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
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hehe, well, ive only done it once, so you know as much as me, , get ervius vis kitchen (im sure other kitchens can do it too, just i use evk) click extra buttons, top left button is raws2nbh, follow the prompts.
You dont need to do this to cook, you know that? the kitchen will import a downloaded stock nbh, no need for the dump to get a kutchen working.
Ok guys I am using osKitchen, 2.13 base stock ROM, using OS Version 24620 and my manila is 2012,
Ok so I'm wanting to cook Cookies Home tab in my rom boots fine but no sign of cookies at all even in programs or the windows folder, I've also tried cooking the editor in also but i get a mismatch
I also want to move
Internet Explorer
Alarms
pictures & video
Phone
Internet sharing
Remote Desktop
but I cant find where I edit them so they move I have managed to organise everything else into folders and create my own folders, Also I have a few icons for twitter and calender etc that take me to the manila tab,how can i delete the shortcuts??
any help or links I would appreciate so much, thank you in advance people.
p.s. I am searching also
EDIT cookies home tab sorted thanks to Crazyc
Did you remember to remove the Manila_full.xml or whatever from package? And is your cookie package being processed after Manila?
I am using an earlier version of Cookie (1.6.1) with Manila 2012 to keep the memory footprint small on my Rhodium, but the latest one converted fine as well AFAIK.
yeah I removed manila_full.xml, after manila ?? how do you do that? would i rename it so its after manila does it work that way? sorry for my ignorance
In my kitchen, when building, it runs SYS, then OEM, then EXt packages.
Within EXt it runs Leo packages, then Rhodium packages, then zzCustom ones. As the CHT packages are in the last one, I assume it overwrites any Manila files it needs to from an earlier package within the Rhodium stuff.
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In my kitchen, when building, it runs SYS, then OEM, then EXt packages.
Within EXt it runs Leo packages, then Rhodium packages, then zzCustom ones. As the CHT packages are in the last one, I assume it overwrites any Manila files it needs to from an earlier package within the Rhodium stuff.
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I imported the cab and created a ext and just called it zzzzcht so it went last and worked well thanks man now to sort the rest out lol
Glad to have helped.
The other issues are (IIRC) about locating where the shotcuts are being moved within the app.dats or initflashfiles? (Or in the provxmls)
I thought I read somewhere about adding a provxml that ran on first boot to move /edit where shortcuts went.
Can't really help here as made a screwup with my own rom the other day and am trying to see if my fixed one is stable enough now - so no flashing for a few days!
Incidentally, If you are still using Manila 2012 instead of the new stuff, I found I could add HTC Messaging 1.8 (the 2015 version) to it with no problems. I tried the cab, and then cooked it in using the kicthen converter (as a zz package)
EDIT : Actually, not sure if the 1.8 messaging client is causing me a problem. might have to revert.