Today markes the day that Sony Ericsson Ends it partnership with Wm, I guess the Next smartphone the X2 Will either be for Symbian S60 or Google's Android OS. Welll the had a good run with windows mobile but now its over.
But Atleast We know that there will be/could be a PSP Phone coming.
Source plz.
I'm not surprised. SE was barely involved in SEX1 developement, x1 is HTC device excluded panels... And even panels... I don't know how much has been developed by SE
so, who cares basically? I purchased X1 'cause I need a qwerty small device... that's it
Here You Go!!
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/009/05/sony_ericsson_to_dump_windows_mobile.htm
Thats true, Thats why i nvr Bought one. But its a little sad that no more inovative things for Wm like panals. But its okay tho.
The article is barely a reliable source to confirm that SE is ending partnership with Microsoft.
The rumor has been been going around since even before X1 was launched and if Ericsson is really off loading their shares to Sony, if i remember correctly Sony was always a big fan of Windows Mobile.
mkouk said:
The article is barely a reliable source to confirm that SE is ending partnership with Microsoft.
The rumor has been been going around since even before X1 was launched and if Ericsson is really off loading their shares to Sony, if i remember correctly Sony was always a big fan of Windows Mobile.
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Well this time it is most likely true because First there sales for the flagship X1 sucked, second There phones arent selling so there losing money, Third Wm is the MOST expensive OS out there, so there trying to cut cost and maybe save them self from Spliting up. There almost sdoing as bad as Motorola. And ya
I heard a rumour that it was the andriod phones that are likely to be reduced or stopped by companies like sony and a few others as it does not really hold its own market. i think people see it like symbian for normal phones and mw for business. android is like iphone but companies are thinking if u want something like iphone u would buy an iphone.
not saying the rumour is true as there is at the mo nothing to back it up but i hear that was what a lot of mobile phones companies were thinking
Ya, and i have use Symbian i Wm has just 2 things over it, 1 Its UI is very costumizable and Its great intergration with everything Windows. But symbian has Way better res 16 million colors, better Costumizablility Video ring and others, better more stable Wi-Fi connection, Faster too. So really X2 would be alot better on symbian even.
Rumors, nothing else. (it's a symbian "fan-page" )
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Rumors, nothing else. (it's a symbian "fan-page" )
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But It also says android, Also there saying what the head of Ericsson said so it couldn't be to far from The truth. But I think its true, Bad Pofits+Low selling Wm phones+ EXPENSIVE OS($99 each Vs $29 s60 vs Free android)=Bye Bye Window Phones, And For them to Truly have a High tech Phone and Feature packed the cant Us wm, cuz it doesn't support alot of things I.e OMINIA HD left Wm because it couldnt support half the things it has especially HD. But maybe Windows Phone 7 will change that.
workingman, your specific facts are all wrong, all your arguments are retarded and your source is just pure speculation of a dumb writer. go back to your homes citizens nothing interesting here.
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workingman, your specific facts are all wrong, all your arguments are retarded and your source is just pure speculation of a dumb writer. go back to your homes citizens nothing interesting here.
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"Go back to your home" What are you a racist. I bet you voted for McCain. Wow havent heard something like that for a while But hmmmm I dont know, maybe your right. Just because I work As a Firmware engineer For samsung in California i dont know anything right.... Sorry. I guess a person that most likely works a walmart knows more than me.
I also bought the X1 because it is just an amazing phone. Although I owned two SE-phones before the X1 I never thought that I HAVE to buy a SE-phone again... The X1 is a HTC device and I think it opened the HTC-window for many SE-users; I think the X1 is a better commercial success for HTC then for HTC, because SE will loose with the X2 at least all the users that don't like Android and Symbian (including me).
With the X1 I said in fact 'goodbye SE', 'hello HTC'
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"Go back to your home" What are you a racist. I bet you voted for McCain. Wow havent heard something like that for a while But hmmmm I dont know, maybe your right. Just because I work As a Firmware engineer For samsung in California i dont know anything right.... Sorry. I guess a person that most likely works a walmart knows more than me.
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label me whatever you like . that does not change the fact that you are spreading garbage based on a very dumb article writen by a symbian "freak" (pun intended) and a very retarded speculation from your part.
the recent development in software and some of the leaks about the x2 hardware (better keyboard, based on 6.5..etc) as mentioned in the other thread suggests that SE are committed to WM.
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I also bought the X1 because it is just an amazing phone. Although I owned two SE-phones before the X1 I never thought that I HAVE to buy a SE-phone again... The X1 is a HTC device and I think it opened the HTC-window for many SE-users; I think the X1 is a better commercial success for HTC then for HTC, because SE will loose with the X2 at least all the users that don't like Android and Symbian (including me).
With the X1 I said in fact 'goodbye SE', 'hello HTC'
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True, True, But ya. I think your right with that But another reason i like the X1 is because of the designe , Thats why i like most Phone, I mean teh OS is very important to me BUt if The feature List is Killer like The Upcoming Nokia n97(which i already pre-odered for $750). Its sooo advanced that i would give Up the best OS out there WM for a less advanced but still good S60. You gatta be open minded when it comes to OS's. I have owned and used all the Mobile Os. Android, Mac, S60, RIM, Wm, Palm and touch wiz, so i know what i am talking about when i say what i say. Now i am using the HTC HD because its super sexy, In 1 month ill be using the Nokia N97 because its sexier, Way more features, 32 GIGS of memory, 3.5 inch screen With 16:9 Res, NOW no Phone can top that. Can you name one, that has better features?
Oh well, windows mobile is actually a really good OS.
I have an iphone, blackberry bold, nokia n82, and my beloved Xperia X1i.
That being said, I've come to learn and know about almost every OS, of course there's Android which I probably will not experience.
I love Windows Mobile. Symbian is quite responsive, but simplistic.
The iphone's OS is also simple, beautiful, and good for gaming.
Blackberry's OS is mainly for eye candy and business, I couldn't really find many games on its platform.
Android, not too sure!
Heres a little proof That Sony ericsson is starting its move FROM WM http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-foxconn-sourced-android-phones-from-sony-er/
But also you could be right that the are not gonna completely Move. I can admit to my wrong, But im say theres a huge chance there gonna start to move away from WM
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-epic-quarterly-loss-adds-another-round-of-j/
Like this is the years flagship phone and guess what its a symbian OS phone UHHHH
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_idou-2683.php
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Oh well, windows mobile is actually a really good OS.
I have an iphone, blackberry bold, nokia n82, and my beloved Xperia X1i.
That being said, I've come to learn and know about almost every OS, of course there's Android which I probably will not experience.
I love Windows Mobile. Symbian is quite responsive, but simplistic.
The iphone's OS is also simple, beautiful, and good for gaming.
Blackberry's OS is mainly for eye candy and business, I couldn't really find many games on its platform.
Android, not too sure!
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Yes your Right.. I dont think anyone on this web site can say the have had a better OS(even me) but im just saying SE is loving Wm now. Did you know that the Have only made 1 Wm phone and the sales were BAD, All other smartphones have been Symbian(which i like because how it interhrates everything into its Ui(which cant be costumizedbut okay)
For example The P series, M series G series and W series.
your silly topic is now your signature. seriously dude, you have issues
-SE releasing android does not mean leaving WM. it just means they are experimenting with something new . SE said they were supporting android since LAST YEAR.
-your other links (idou and SE losing money) are pointless and irrelevant here
-whare the hell did you come up with the wm OS price and the very poor X1 sales numbers??!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hm now now, if it is coming from the president of the company it does not rub off too good on all of us who paid for the device!
http://www.wmexperts.com/where-sony-ericsson-went-wrong-and-how-xperia-x1-was-experiment
i dont think i am the only one, but somehow, i still love my xperia, to date, i still have not seen a mobile i would replace my x1 with
well it may be an experiment, but it turns out it's a very good one, so far I like the xperia more than any other phone, I went thru a lot of WM phones, and I think it is the best out there, it may not have all the features that some have (accelerometer, tv-out) it may not be the easiest to type, but overall is good, fast and very good looking.
Looking forward for the next-gen xperia.
its a quote taking out of proporstion. he probally said the x1 was a test of the wm market and the high end (very expensive phones). to see if it would sell to a level that they make a decent profit.
from what i have seen they have sold tons of x1's (for the type of phone it is) and have been happy with the product (crack problem aside).
so i think they will be strongly supporting the wm format and a x2 will be coming out and probally be alot better make and support at the start with some great software from SE (as they now have experiance with wm software, as shown in the beta r3 release).
I love my Xperia as well and i wouldn't change it for any other phone as no other phone has so many functions and looks good at the same time! (and no, HTC phones do not look half as good!)...
but for a company's CEO to come out and say that the device was an experiment for them is completely wrong. If companies want to experiment they can do it with prototypes, not get customers involved in the process.
If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
Of course is was an "EXPERIMENT" it was their first Windows Mobile Phone.
Doesnt De-Value it at all - as long as they keep supporting it
Xperimental much?
It's quite a success other than the casing and sometimes the signal problems.
Otherwise it's a killer in a small package.
yeah, X1 isn't a bad phone at all
Although I wish they give faster updates for the X1 & add more "SE/X1-features".
Something like an exclusivity
made me think of any of these 2 cartoon strips
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http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9706/df970626.jpg
PS: I LOVE my X1!!! It is definitely the best piece of technology that I've held in my hands so far. Just fell in LOVE with it at the first touch
And I'm so happy I took part in an experiment like this one. It turned out to be successful (being in here with so many talented developers and custom roms, yet having the excellent service of SonyEricsson). Thank you SE for this Xperi-ment.
Their next experiment will be the X2 on Android OS.
Motorola is also doing experiments on all platforms: S60 UIQ, WinMob, their own linux platform, Android (coming soon).
I see nothing wrong experimenting with platforms. Not, as long as they provide support for all models and platforms, and continue updating software on all platforms.
Love my X1 too ...you guys are right -easily the best bit of kit I own
As long as support and updates continue, all's well
Looking forward to the X2!
i love my X1 too and it is the best phone i ever had.. waiting for X2..
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If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
doministry said:
Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
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did nt like the design of the p range
It's just that it priced itself out of the game without bringing anything really groundbreaking
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i agree with that. but it doesnt make me love my X1 any less.
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ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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i loved the w960i but u were stuck with what u had (limited options to change the phone as it was on symbian uiq)
but the x1 is by far the best phone i have owned and i think its still the best phone u can buy now and as far as i have seen in the near future too (tp2 the closest but still not as good as the x1 in design and near the same in spec).
As all of you, I've been with pocket pc since my hp 1945. Back then ppc was the most advance mobile os out there. I dreamed of a time they would converge this device with a phone to make the worlds greatest all in one. Then it came , the device that started my addiction with windows mobile phone, the imate jAm. From then on it was an exciting journey as I bought new phones when they cAme out. Each one better than the last and more stable. This journey climaxed when I bought my best pocket pc phone ever.. The htc advAntage. I loved that thing. Huge screen graphic processor, fast CPU , 8 gb HD . But alas my advantage was dropped one too mAny times so it was sold. Not wNting to get the same phone twice I purchased the AT&T tilt, then the xperia. Now for the point of my post. Since the begining to about when the first iPhone 3g came out I'd sAy ppc was very much better than the rest. Now after playing with the 3gs iPhone I can see with this device ppc is now in the dust. It does most things our ppc can do , but most of all more and more developers r writing awesome apps for this device. And because it's made by one company and also very popular there are tons of accessories for it. I mean there were times like with my advantage that I couldn't even get a proper case for it. As for os iPhone is wAaY more stAble, windowS is taking too long. They started this race but R finishing up last with their shotty work and programming. I meaN the only reSon I buy htc products is becUse of this awesome site. That's pretty sad when ur only selling point is a site that has no affilation with u but make ur buggy product useable. So with this post I sAy farewell ppc thank you all the chiefs that made All those custome Roms I've used over the past ten years. I've jumped ship and have bought a 3gs.
Ps xperia was the straw that broke the camels back. Worst ppc phone ever. From case problem to shotty os
Bye.
Thanks for the thread
Seriously why do people make these thread all they offer to the rest of us is reading your "painful" sob story.
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Bye.
Thanks for the thread
Seriously why do people make these thread all they offer to the rest of us is reading your "painful" sob story.
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hahaha yeah. to iphone so go. bye, you wont be missed.
You could summarise the OP into one sentence.
"The iPhone has a swish GUI and is better supported for apps than the Xperia, so I'm getting one."
My response would be,
"I prefer my device to have a keyboard, and while the Xperia isn't perfect, it has a spreadsheet app out of the box... for free."
It is not our fault that you cannot configure your device properly. Feel free to buy a featurephone like the iPhail. It is simple, not functional and has crappy hardware and software.
WinMo is for tech savvy people who understand modern tech. iCrap is for the ones who want everything configured and controlled for them. The latter will fall behind modern society, because of lack of understanding how things work.
Read this and pay special attention to the links haha:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529998
Let's not be Haters
If someone wants to leave WinMo let them go. Maybe when they try iPhone OS they'll realize what they are missing. Perhaps, though, they would be happier with it.
Just because WinMo might be best for us doesn't mean it's best for everyone.
I do have to say, though, that I am confused by the now several threads in the Xperia forum saying that they are leaving for the iPhone. I never saw any in the Kaiser or in the Dev or Q&A forums. I am beginning to think that many of these are simply viral marketing.
EDIT: Perhaps not viral marketing, just users that don't understand customizing/flashing very well. Reviewed some old posts by the originators of these threads.
Have fun with your iPhone 3GS - seriously No bad feelings here (why shouldn't there be any lol ).
However, I think you made 2 mistakes here. The first one, was getting an Xperia in the first place. If you now can live without the full qwerty keyboard, you should have gotten a Touch HD. Thats more of a competitor to the iPhone than the Xperia.
The second mistake: You switched when the WM platform finally has come to a point, where almost all new devices feature a WVGA screen, which means, that developers will have less problems to build apps AND WM 6.5 with its marketplace is standing right on the doorstep. The other thing here is, that Microsoft won't be that fussy when it comes to authorising apps to the marketplace.
I personally am not going to jump ship to the iPhone. I'm satisfied with the Xperia, but am really pissed with the problems of the WM ecosystem. No one stop shopping for apps. No music or app downloads straight to the phone (that Handango InHand app was crap!). And, come on guys, customizing a phone and voiding the warranty IS NOT A FEATURE!
I am not even interested in the X2. Hardware alone isn't going to convince me to buy a new phone. It has to have a great ecosystem and UI...period. I'm guessing X3 with WM7 would be my next phone, but if it's crap, then I'm jumping ship to something better (even iPhone 4). My next phone is going to have a really well-designed and clever OS on top of superior hardware. Features should not be half-assed but properly integrated into the whole phone. Good example is Copy and Paste. Many complaints the iPhone didn't have it, but now it's got it and it is very well implemented. Apple didn't just throw some bull**** into their phone to make the feature list longer. My next mobile OS will have to be designed with that same mentality and attention to user-experience.
I'll stick with my X1 for another generation, but next generation, the company with the best designed OS and ecosystem will get my business.
Besides the question if the iPhone is the better phone (Everyone has to decide for themselves, for me, the iPhone is definetely lacking some things) i really have to say that somehow i get the impression, that WinMO got stuck.
A few years back, it was the ultimate OS for powerful PPC and later PPCPhones, but that was because it was the only real one. Microsoft just sat back and sold and sold without improving. I mean even the devices 5 years back already had 400 MhZ and were as fast as todays devices and if you take a look at Windows Mobile 2003 SE and Windows Mobile 6.1 you can't see significant changes at first glance. I've had many WinMo Phones throughout the years and i will stick with it for now, because I love Windwos Mobile and all the functionality that comes along with it and appart from a keyboard i am still missing some other things with other phones like the iPhone, but i guess, if Microsoft does not realize that the Phone OS Market is now an open and very competitive one and does not improve their OS within the next year (Speed is a great factor, other OS are way faster) more and more people will come to the point where WinMo is no longer the OS of choice. As for myself, more and more things that "disgusted" me with the first iphone, get lost more and more, as apple improves the whole package. Alright, an iPhone with Keyboard is way off for now, but who knows
Just my two cents =)
If they released an iPhone with a keyboard, it would be game over for the rest of the smartphone industry. Not that I'm an Apple or iPhone fan, but more likely than not, they would completely dominate the smartphone market with a keyboard device and a touch-only device.
The X1 is good, but apps pale in comparison aesthetics wise
I think the X1 is really good, it's the best WinMo device i've ever had. There is no real comparable device out there regarding the Hardware.
But right now it looks like this is the climax of Windows Mobile and if this stays like that till the next time i have to get a new device i will be looking seriously into other Phones, because my love to WinMo is not unconditionally, they really need to do something
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Word! **** the iPhone.
WinMo and X1 is good enough that I'll wait for WM7 to give it a chance (and I'll put the OFFICIAL WM6.5 on my X1). But after that, I'll have to jump ship to a/the keyboard iPhone or something else if Microsoft and SE doesn't get it's s**t together by next generation of phones (The X3).
I have to agree. I updated my X1 using the SE update service to R3A and now get regular crashes. I'm trying to find away to roll back but not having any luck. As mentioned before, cooking your ROM is all well and good to improve your phone, but it voids your warranty and shouldn't be needed. Lazysoft should start investing some of their vast mountain of money into programmers who can produce a stable, fast and easily customizable OS. As Apple slowly realise their mistakes with the iPhone and introduce firmware upgrades to compensate WM is going nowhere and offering nothing new or improved. As soon as iPhone is capable of everything other phones are, it's game over for WM.
I'm sorry but this is getting out of hand...we are being astroturfed here.
So many 'I'm switching to iphone 3gs' posts... it's professional done I grant you that (some are one or to post users some are 50+ well rounded accounts) but astroturf nonetheless.
I'm wondering if the rest of the XDA forums is being hit? If I'd get off my butt I'd check.
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If they released an iPhone with a keyboard, it would be game over for the rest of the smartphone industry. Not that I'm an Apple or iPhone fan, but more likely than not, they would completely dominate the smartphone market with a keyboard device and a touch-only device.
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Keyboard will not be a substitute for all the features it lacks.
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The X1 is good, but apps pale in comparison aesthetics wise
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Agreed, but not 100%. Function beats aesthetics any day. WinMo has cool looking apps as well.
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I'm sorry but this is getting out of hand...we are being astroturfed here.
So many 'I'm switching to iphone 3gs' posts... it's professional done I grant you that (some are one or to post users some are 50+ well rounded accounts) but astroturf nonetheless.
I'm wondering if the rest of the XDA forums is being hit? If I'd get off my butt I'd check.
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I thought the same thing. Maybe a Mod can drop by and tell us if we are right?
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If someone wants to leave WinMo let them go. Maybe when they try iPhone OS they'll realize what they are missing. Perhaps, though, they would be happier with it.
Just because WinMo might be best for us doesn't mean it's best for everyone.
I do have to say, though, that I am confused by the now several threads in the Xperia forum saying that they are leaving for the iPhone. I never saw any in the Kaiser or in the Dev or Q&A forums. I am beginning to think that many of these are simply viral marketing.
EDIT: Perhaps not viral marketing, just users that don't understand customizing/flashing very well. Reviewed some old posts by the originators of these threads.
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I had an iFail for a month (back in the 2G when you could jailbreak without contract)
I am happy I don't have it any more
Crappy keyboard, with only qwerty, no 3rd party keyboard support, apps were alright, nothing incredible, no real bluetooth (A2DP, tethering etc) and no hardware keyboard, hardware was mediocre at best and the camera sucked
Took them 2 years to sort out some of those issues, hardware/camera still suck and the apps.....lets just say I wouldn't take a lot of them if you paid me, not to mention being forced to use iTuneDeaf, I'll stick to my media players that support OGG thanks.
I am quite impressed with the iPhone 3GS, I do not understand how they can make the MP3 player so remarkably fast compared to any windows mobile mp3 program + phone. I know capacitive screen takes away the need to apply pressure but the iPhone OS looks as if it takes alot of processing power and yet 600 Megahertz is almost the same as 528 and yet iphone is blazing fast.
The same also applies to the Ipod Touch which has a 400 mhz processor.
I am just so discontented that the iPhone os is not good for automated apps and modification apps. If it had those features + a true file system than I would consider.
This is the reason why all iphones and ipod touch have mostly games and games and games, because it can only support certain types of foreground apps (since the Mac OS isn't designed for background apps)
I pity all the iDiots......
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/01/video-iphone-copy-and-paste-is-a-pretty-incredible-thing-sur/
check this out:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2009/bert-letter-en.shtml
its real ,and he hits the week points of SE
"Real innovations have been substituted by dreams. As a consumer I'm offered rapidly aging and overpriced phones that have no future on the market under the guise of 'state-of-the-art solutions'. Another manifestation of the company's dishonesty was when Sony Ericsson tried to persuade me via weak PR and advertising that these were marvelous products."
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Well, this guy is nailing it! Spot on! Dishonesty is the right word. Persuasion and promises without any real world backing.
"oh looky looky the X1 with the AMAZING panels that are going to change your everyday live" - oh yeah, it's one year after that and there are a handful of them. I haven't used any of them in months.
"oh looky looky the X2 is simply amazing cutting edge device with the fantastic tile panel" - oh yeah, very amazing with the pathetic old hardware and the annoying panel that is nothing more than a gimmick and is impossible to use on a daily basis.
Haha...
Damn!! This guy's got it spot on!
@nevermind: What was that u said, SE won't be phased if they loose me as a customer? Reality check, u guys are loosing it.
Imagine a current X1 user upgrading to a X2 and realising a couple of hours down the line that he just bought a re-glorified plastic encased X1 with an 8mp camera. lol
I really digged SE but as of late I've, and apparently more SE fanbois really felt as if though we've been cheated with the X1.
So, whatcha gonna do?
With have been cheated with the X2 not X1. Also, nevermind =/= SE.
the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
Hannigan174 said:
Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
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lol. i did say i would only get a x2 if they give it to me as a free replacement so it really does not matter how much sony decides to sell it for.
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
lol where you get that???
xperia 1.5....
why not 1.8 for the 8 mpx camera.
haha sounds funny
look here
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/products/phoneportfolio
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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lets try not to be childish
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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Please provide proof and links!!
Jasand said:
Please provide proof and links!!
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it obviously was a sneer to SE. Not real! but seriously, if they really called it x1.5 , i would consider buying it, because it'll probably be the only phone to have such a model name/number. And perhaps, x2 is not worth the x2 name, because of the minor improvements over x1. But..... x1.5 was just a joke, c'mon...
I spent a few years with SE's UIQ phones, and a similar thing happened there. Since Sony Ericsson WAS in practice UIQ (apart from one Motorola I think), not only did they terminally underspec the UIQ terminals, they actually killed the UIQ interface, which was a real shame, since it was a very stable and efficient phone OS.
Déjà vu...
If you look at the UIQ forum on my-symbian.com, you will see similar complaints, letters published to CEOs etc. There must be some serious disconnects in SE for this to happen with their flagship range(s).
It's called greed. Also, providing as little as possible and pricing it like a NASA prototype...
...and the poster with the 1.5 was OBVIOUSLY joking...
I hope sony respond positivley to this letter and turn their act around
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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Well its their loss - we only want to help >.<
Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
Stalix said:
Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Well maybe they will, if the x1's keep falling appart or have other weird issue's like mines that turns blue'ish when sliding open.. the screen cable gets a bit loosy when i slide it open. ( its already been in repairs once for that issue but back then it went off instead of turning blue.. )
orelsi said:
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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...aGREED!!
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
Romani ite domum!
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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What on earth is this?
I was with a lot of doubts like you, until I see today the X10
It is THE **** of phone. The UI is ugly, and works like its running on a nintendo DS processor and 3fps, they dont have any advantage over HD2, NONE, and the release date is on march 2010 if all goes good.
not an option for me and a big fail for Sony.
i am surprised at how ugly the UI turned out. Also, the lag SHOULD be attributed to it being pre=release but it is so laggy that you have to assume some of that will make it into the final ROM
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I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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Considering the detailed description you gave regarding what you need your phone to do, it's obvious that the XPERIA is the phone for you.
You get the X10 and let us the HD2 gang know what you found out
I LoL'd
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Romani ite domum!
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
I LoL'd
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Romani ite domum!
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
The X10 looks like a nice phone. I personally think it looks better aesthetically than the HD2, especially in White. The UI will probably be improved before it's released and run faster than 3 FPS. The 8MP camera is also a plus, and I'd take an SE camera over an HTC camera any day.
All that being said, the HD2 has the bigger screen and the support of xda-developers
That's all I need for me to consider the HD2 better. That and SE hasn't made a good flagship phone in years! I'd bet they are going to botch up the X10 somehow and it's pretty much guaranteed to go through a few delays traditional SE style
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
Gang, this is not even a Windows Mobile device
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I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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pretty not much of a point to ask this question here or in Xperia X10, most of the responders here like me have had already bought over in our mind with HD2. And I would strongly recommend HD2 against Xperia X10 for many reasons, but this is entirely my preferences. I would think again if it is based on WinMO.
too bad history
lude219 said:
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
I consider HD2 as a Business Phone...
Sony Xperia X10 is not a Business Phone at all. It even cannot show MS exchange emails in html format...
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learn from your mistakes
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Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
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P990, P990 ... P990 ... We got to remember our mistakeS, SE take us for idiots ... a lot of promiss, never real fix ... Let's go for phone with working software, and that is not a SonyEricsson, i got the phones in my cabinets to prove it.
I clearly remember that X1 was suppose to get Windows mobile 7 .. we don t even get Win6.5 ... so ... bye bye SE, remember your mistakeS, so many companies finish the products, no reason to buy something unfinished.
To get a working X1, we got to develope hacks ... not what i call a good consumer support.
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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i have personal experience with most of this, agreed 110%
Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
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Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
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you'll have some time to find the best solution as the X10 won't be out for months - if SE are saying Q1 then that is a certainty for Q2 at the earliest...
Andoid does have the odd application that can use office files.
Ah bless. It should eventually produce some truly boring phones. Nokia should have gone android IMO? We will have to wait a long time for a Nokia Nexus N!
If that means they drop Meego, they can have a kick in the nuts from me!!!!
If not i forgive them
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If that means they drop Meego, they can have a kick in the nuts from me!!!!
If not i forgive them
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Symbian and meego are to be 'sidelined' according to BBC news so a swift kick to the nuts is in order. They putting all their chips on MS.....what an exciting partnership. I am sure apple are already living in fear
I don't get it.
I think Microsoft is a mistake, but if it works out it will benefit both sides.
It will be interesting to see what this will yield.
On another Note I see Meego can run Dalvik Turbo.
It seems to be something similar to Wine for linux, but for Android on Meego.
Basically you can run Android apps seamlessly on Meego.
I want to post link but I can't yet. So the Source is Linuxfordevices.com
Title is: "Dalvik ported to MeeGo, promising instant Android app compatibility"
With this development, I think they should have stuck to what they were doing, and made a deal with google to allow Android Market on their Meego Phones.
I understand there would be some sort of premium for them to do that, but damn that would be awesome, it might have killed android.
As much as I love Maemo for it's Multitasking capabilities, I don't like the provided Market on it. Not to mention Qt for Meego.
I hope they still release a Meego device.
Peace.
IronSingh
This is going to be interesting
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This decision definitively benefits Microsoft more than Nokia. MSFT gets a great handset maker with international market. Nokia gets.... a new OS. I think Android would have definitively been a better choice.
I just think this partnership will produce some very dull devices that are locked down to the extreme. Now if they put some good Xbox functionality in a device.....that might be interesting.
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Ah bless. It should eventually produce some truly boring phones. Nokia should have gone android IMO? We will have to wait a long time for a Nokia Nexus N!
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Yeah after i saw the news this morning i was like
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-nokia-elop-idUSTRE71A2T820110211
Nokia may you rest in peace
1979 - 2011
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Yeah after i saw the news this morning i was like
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-nokia-elop-idUSTRE71A2T820110211
Nokia may you rest in peace
1979 - 2011
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LOL I cannot pretend I will miss them while they rest in peace...its been a long time since I thought "Damn I wish I had that Nokia"
I disagree entirely (having come from an n900 to a Nexus s just one week ago).
I hope for great things on the Nokia experimental side, and will be rooting for Meego in any form factor..
Win Mobile looks OK, but it's not my kinda thing, i would rather Android/Meego/Maemo anyday!
Symbian was good in it's day, it's just a bit "old hat" ...it for me is hard to fathom how they could make that maemo device and then stick with symbian as a main platform, lost respect from me for that alone!
I hope to see them thrive though, even if i will not buy the win7 devices, ALL mobile companies (inc. google) could do with the kick up the arse that comes from competition, any competition, is good for us all i say!
nyway .. ramble over ....out with the meego allready!!
the only thing i want to see RIP, is fanboi's ...they suck (from apple or android, or any other brand)
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I just think this partnership will produce some very dull devices that are locked down to the extreme. Now if they put some good Xbox functionality in a device.....that might be interesting.
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I look at it this way:
When the iPhone was released it was absolutely, bar-none the best, easiest-to-use, most powerful smartphone on the market. It offered a device that anyone could jump into and use without much of a learning curve and as a result it gained a huge amount of market share. When the G1 launched it brought open-source and entirely different UI that allowed users to truly customize their phone experience. It took Google a bit longer but then started to take away from Apple's dominance. Now we have WP7 and I ask myself, what new or interesting features does it bring? You can't copy and paste, you can't customize it, you can't even add storage and the UI is basic and bland. I guess its sort of cool that it has the XBox live support, but that would only be a cool feature to XBox owners and I sold my XBox to get a PS3 because I was tired of paying Microsoft just to watch Netflix which I was already paying to watch. Besides, what is WP7 except Kin with a little more power? And I'm sure I don't need to explain how that worked out.
So to continue my line of thinking, Nokia made the wrong choice. I've seen no real sales figures on WP7 and I know one person who owns one and he happens to work for Microsoft. Actually, my sister's boyfriend who also works for Microsoft owns a Droid X so not even all their employees believe in the platform. Nokia is continuing its history of hitching itself to a wagon with a broken wheel. I was looking forward to Nokia Android devices but I won't lose any sleep over the loss and I won't lose any when they announce bankruptcy in a few months or years.
even the iPhones needs to accommodate the competition now
News: Apple Is Said to Work on Cheaper, Smaller IPhones
Nokia would have been way better off with Android
To us not in the Nokia boardroom it does seem a strange partnership. I mean we could all have told them that apple is king for most 'casual' phone users with android gaining general recognition and acceptance to. MS windows I really don't think will generate any excitement among the masses. Kev is right....what will they bring to the party? I guess accountants in crisp suits may be attracted to a windows device but would many under 25's be interested in MS office for mobile 2011?
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To us not in the Nokia boardroom it does seem a strange partnership. I mean we could all have told them that apple is king for most 'casual' phone users with android gaining general recognition and acceptance to. MS windows I really don't think will generate any excitement among the masses. Kev is right....what will they bring to the party? I guess accountants in crisp suits may be attracted to a windows device but would many under 25's be interested in MS office for mobile 2011?
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Lol agreed but my name is Ken not Kevin kenvan is my first and last name pushed together hehe
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Nokia's CEO(?) isn't going to eat his own words and use Android. That isn't the world we live in. Although I'm curious to see what they can bring to the table. I remember Nokia used to bring out some awesome phones, but now it's just either Android phones or Apple's iPhone that gets everyones attention.
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Nokia's CEO(?) isn't going to eat his own words and use Android. That isn't the world we live in. Although I'm curious to see what they can bring to the table. I remember Nokia used to bring out some awesome phones, but now it's just either Android phones or Apple's iPhone that gets everyones attention.
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But they have a new CEO who isn't the one who made the Android is like pissing yourself to stay warm comment. And you can't just say its just Android phones, because as a result of Android, the playing field has been leveled. People get excited over Motorola phones the same as LG or HTC or Samsung or any other brand.
I am glad Nokia picked Microsoft.
Really, this is the best outcome for us, Android users.
Why?
Because this will trigger more competition, which will result more innovation from Google Android and Apple iOS (major players on smartphone. No RIM is not )
Believe me, you should be thankful to Nokia and Microsoft.
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I am glad Nokia picked Microsoft.
Really, this is the best outcome for us, Android users.
Why?
Because this will trigger more competition, which will result more innovation from Google Android and Apple iOS (major players on smartphone. No RIM is not )
Believe me, you should be thankful to Nokia and Microsoft.
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I don't think Microsoft is much competition to either iOS or Android and I don't think either side sees them as such. Their market share, last I saw, was pathetic at best. I would prefer there was more hardware competition than software and another manufacturer pushing out high end hardware would have been just that.
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I don't think Microsoft is much competition to either iOS or Android and I don't think either side sees them as such. Their market share, last I saw, was pathetic at best. I would prefer there was more hardware competition than software and another manufacturer pushing out high end hardware would have been just that.
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exactly, i was really hoping to see some Nokia with Android love, but the moment they selected Microsoft... all hopes were gone.
I used to be a big Nokia fan, they always had the best hardware.
My apologies Ken I typed in haste. It certainly seems that poor Nokia has not inspired much enthusiasm. I am pleased not to own any Nokia shares...MS wont suffer half as much IF this strategy fails.