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For the first few weeks I had my HD the battery life was brilliant. With minor use it'd have high levels like 95+% when I go to bed at night, but the last week or two something has begun really guzzling power from it and I can't figure out what.
I don't think I installed anything new, so I want to find out if there is a way I can easily identify where the power is getting drained so badly. For instance, some days now it is down to about 55% by the middle of the day without even making a call or using any data services etc. I have bluetooth & wifi switched off all the time too!
Is there an app that can identify battery drain in a similar sort of way to cpu/memory use? Or does it normally follow that something using more memory/cpu will be the cause?
Thanks guys!
Cret said:
For the first few weeks I had my HD the battery life was brilliant. With minor use it'd have high levels like 95+% when I go to bed at night, but the last week or two something has begun really guzzling power from it and I can't figure out what.
I don't think I installed anything new, so I want to find out if there is a way I can easily identify where the power is getting drained so badly. For instance, some days now it is down to about 55% by the middle of the day without even making a call or using any data services etc. I have bluetooth & wifi switched off all the time too!
Is there an app that can identify battery drain in a similar sort of way to cpu/memory use? Or does it normally follow that something using more memory/cpu will be the cause?
Thanks guys!
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Try the following task manager and click on CPU Usage at the top. This should help isolate what programs are active
Thanks very much for the reply.
I did look in a task manager I already had and I found that Phonex seemed to be varying but generally using up to 10% cpu just sitting in the background so I have uninstalled it (shame - it's nice).
I'll add in the task manager you've given me and check that, and see how it behaves now PhonEx is gone.....
Thanks very much for the reply.
I did look in a task manager I already had and I found that Phonex seemed to be varying but generally using up to 10% cpu just sitting in the background so I have uninstalled it (shame - it's nice).
I'll add in the task manager you've given me and check that, and see how it behaves now PhonEx is gone.....
Here's an update - I couldn't find anything else that was really using any cpu, and the main culprits using memory seem to be important stuff (I think - shell32.exe & device.exe & cprog.exe) so I doubt I can do anything about them.
Anyway, it wasn't bad last night after removing PhonEx but this morning it had used 10% battery in half an hour without even being used at all!!!
Rebooted and it's stayed on the same battery level now for over an hour but I don't trust it - it seems very erratic and I'm really not sure the best way to find the cause still.
I'd do a hard reset but it'll be a right PITA to get everything back on it again afterwards.
Cret said:
Here's an update - I couldn't find anything else that was really using any cpu, and the main culprits using memory seem to be important stuff (I think - shell32.exe & device.exe & cprog.exe) so I doubt I can do anything about them.
Anyway, it wasn't bad last night after removing PhonEx but this morning it had used 10% battery in half an hour without even being used at all!!!
Rebooted and it's stayed on the same battery level now for over an hour but I don't trust it - it seems very erratic and I'm really not sure the best way to find the cause still.
I'd do a hard reset but it'll be a right PITA to get everything back on it again afterwards.
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I would recommend reading this thread
A number of ideas have been given including using SQTools to identify what is using up the battery.
Good luck and keep me informed
Thanks for the reply again.
Are SKtools/SQtools two different things, or is that just a typo?
Have already got SKtools installed so I'll give it some scrutiny. It's obviously behaving at present though as it's an hour since my earlier post and still on the same battery % level.
Thanks for the link to the other thread anyway. I'll obviously be keeping a close eye on this so I'll advise any findings as they come up.
I've never known anything like it with this battery - no regular pattern sometimes brilliant sometimes awful. Very sensitive to chargers and type - one person reported here that if he charged through usb on computer his battery life went down really quickly afterwards. If he charged through mains battery life was much better. I also just found my charger on my motorbike has a small amount of rust/dirt in it and is causing the device to discharge.
I am not helping but just reaffirming your findings. I did find a programme called BattLog useful to see what programmes were causing high level battery usage. I don't have the link but you can find it here somewhere using search. Another tool for your collection.
Good luck!
Battlog eh? Thanks for the suggestion - will look it up
*edit* here it is - I'll try this tonight, if only as it's quicker than going through the SKtools menus to get to the power usage:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-battlog.html
I just began uninstalling stuff to see if it helps (seems to currently run around 106-111mah drain - no idea what might be considered 'normal' and have seen other posts questioning this but no real answers - yet).
Uninstalled Memmaid, and the wedge 18 tab action screen, and also Singh's 15 tab thingy. Have also turned off Handy Switcher as I had that running from startup. It's still drawing 106mah after all that!
One side effect though after removing those, was the weather applet appeared on S2U2 when I unlocked it - first time it's worked! It did disappear again though so there's still a problem with that too.
I've seen many posts where people blame software they have installed and the developer denies it is the software etc.... I think in the end it comes down to the device/battery or manila/TF3D. I may be wrong of course and will be interested to see how you go with it all.
I think it must be software since I have a lot on there and it was fine for the first few weeks I owned it and then suddenly began losing LOADS of power.
For some reason my data connection is not working now either! Might be time for a hard reset I guess.
If you are getting ~150mah consumption when the unit is in use, then with a standard 1350mah battery the lifetime should be 9 hours per charge.
If your battery dies in 1 day, then the unit is consuming the same amount of power almost all the time, even when it's locked or sleeping and this is not normal, unless you want it this way.
Some software, in particular lock managers and button managers are believed to be causing battery drain as they prevent the device from entering deeper sleep states where power can be conserved.
There's software floating on this forum that enables wi-fi and wave audio drivers to remain active in unattended mode (when your backlight is off) too, battery is drained a lot faster when any of these are installed.
Good points
I doubt there's any way of monitoring what power is being used in standby mode is there?
For instance, would an app be possible so that when sync'd and usb charging turned off the app on your desktop could run the same power monitoring process that you find in the likes of SKtools? That would answer a lot of questions I think!
PowerGuard
I used PowerGuard, when I was troubleshooting my battery problems ... and you can run the monitor and put it in standby mode, backlight off etc. I used to consume ~180maH when on, no calls no bluetooth and ~96mAh when backlight off/standby.
For me the culprits were S2U2 and Enable HSDPA in the phone settings. I cant get 3G cause im in the US, but it was alwys searching for a signal... after disabling those two.. im at 115mAH when on and 33mAh when standby and back to an ~18 hour battery life.
Oh dear, I just made a new thread with the same question really Silly me.
What version of S2U2 are you using? Did you upgrade that recently? I moved up to 1.5 and I think that might be the culprit, but I've uninstalled it and still having poor battery problems.
**EDIT** Okay, so I have Battlog installed, the drain sometimes shows as -330ma, but how do I see what is causing that drain?
My battery was lasting 2 days on the standard rom, using S2U2 and with HSDPA enabled.
I then upgraded to the Davideuck V-1 HP, and changed the radio from 1.09 to 1.12. Again I did have SU2U installed.
The battery then lasted about 6 hours, and the unit shut down before the ending of my day at work. I can only assume that the pda was consuming too much power even when switched off.
After two frustrating days, I gave up last night, and installed Davideuck V6 and changed the radio to 1.10, and now the pda battery is lasting for ages. It's only dropped from 100% to 99% after 5 hours.
OK, I know I should have changed things one step at a time, but I must assume that either the 1.12 radio or the V-1 rom is causing the problem.
I don't think S2U2 is the culprit here. But I do suspect that it might be the V-1 rom, as I believe that some folk have a similar problem with the new Dutty rom too. However, other users of the V-1 rom assure me that they don't have such a problem, so I'm confused!
Hmm, Dutty's 2.0 is using radio 1.09. Maybe I should try 1.10? Where can I get it from?
AndyCr15 said:
Hmm, Dutty's 2.0 is using radio 1.09. Maybe I should try 1.10? Where can I get it from?
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Follow link in my signature below. Has all Radios
AndyCr15 said:
**EDIT** Okay, so I have Battlog installed, the drain sometimes shows as -330ma, but how do I see what is causing that drain?
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There should be for example "Active Application=ThumbcalStart" just above the temp/ma figures in the log file like in this screen shot post 17.
I am guessing 330ma does not sound too excessive for an open application as long as it is not running all the time.
So, idle it's at around 90-100. When I turned it off and S2U2 didn't start, it dropped down to 33 fairly steady. When I locked S2U2 and then turned it off, it stayed around 80, dropped to 50 for a little while and then came back up to 99...
Hi.
i am using Touch HD with extended 2600mAH battery and lots of software but the battery barely last a day. i was hoping you could help me diagnose the problem.
configuration :
-duttys XT 3.0 using manila
-1 hour of talk time a day at the most
these are my main suspects :
-checking for mail on two accounts every half an hour
-S2U2 1.62
-phonealarm
-pocketbreeze new PB2
-touchresponse
i installed nueDynamicClock but i can't see any difference.
first of all, maybe this sounds normal to you ? maybe my device is defected ? i'm sure the battery is ok.
maybe someone knows a good battery diagnostic program...
any comments you have on any of my suspected software ?
thanks,
david
Try this, quoted from official HTC site:
My battery drains fast even without using Bluetooth, WiFi or GPS. Is there any way to check if it’s faulty or not?
1. Charge the battery to 100%. 2. Disable from running or uninstall any 3rd party applications. 3. Disable Bluetooth. 4. Disable WiFi. 5. Enable flight mode 6. Set backlight to maximum settings. 7. In the power management settings, uncheck any option that would set the backlight to turn off. 8. Let phone stay idle for 1 hour and check battery capacity. 9. If there is a loss of 40% or more, then this means that battery is faulty and needs to be replaced.
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jankos said:
Try this, quoted from official HTC site:
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Thanks for that. I've been a little concerned with my battery life so i'll give that a try later.
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Try this, quoted from official HTC site:
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well obviously this doesn't help me too much because, as stated, the battery last almost a day with full usage so this diagnostic will be a negative... but surely something is wrong. Thanks anyway.
didn't anyone have any problems with one of the above ?
Max battery life
Battery drain in almost a day is quite normal with most of the roms
exception, i flashed Black Pearls v2.4 rom and the battery is still 20 to 30% at the end of the day. myself satisfied with the performance of this rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495233
update the 3d drivers after flashing the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3
denjo said:
Battery drain in almost a day is quite normal with most of the roms
exception, i flashed Black Pearls v2.4 rom and the battery is still 20 to 30% at the end of the day. myself satisfied with the performance of this rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495233
update the 3d drivers after flashing the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3
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flashing a rom just to check this seems like a overkill...
i was wondering about any diagnostic tools allowing me to see the consumption without waiting a whole day to compare, any on knows of any ?
dudikbs said:
Hi.
i am using Touch HD with extended 2600mAH battery and lots of software but the battery barely last a day. i was hoping you could help me diagnose the problem.
configuration :
-duttys XT 3.0 using manila
-1 hour of talk time a day at the most
these are my main suspects :
-checking for mail on two accounts every half an hour
-S2U2 1.62
-phonealarm
-pocketbreeze new PB2
-touchresponse
i installed nueDynamicClock but i can't see any difference.
first of all, maybe this sounds normal to you ? maybe my device is defected ? i'm sure the battery is ok.
maybe someone knows a good battery diagnostic program...
any comments you have on any of my suspected software ?
thanks,
david
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Why dont you check the idle cpu usage when your phone is on but not doing anything. It should be 98-99% most of the time. If you get high cpu usage by shell or services then it is most probably phoneAlarm or other plugins on Today screen.
If you are using wifi, make sure you set it to off when standby. (Note: If you are using AE Button (mine is v2.63) and if you use it to turn ON wifi, the wifi will not go to sleep even in standby thus draining battery)
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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Well, Its normal to get hot when taking a long call.. (10 min or more), but while in standby, it should NEVER get even WARM (mine stays cold as ice ) !!!
The power drain maybe is cuz your phone is heating.. The heat expands circuits and increase the power drain.
Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
cyron_at said:
..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
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Not normal if the phone is on stand by mode (And I believe that`s what he`s saying ) !!!
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
Cairo_ said:
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
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About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
haranbh said:
About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
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I wouldn't rush to send it back. It all sounds normal to me.
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
After that, in process tab, if repllog appears, kill it, and in notifications tab find again the event "repllog.exe /remote /h",disable too, and use a reg editor (dot's taskmgr has one) and search in hkcu\software\microsoft\ActiveSync, find "KeepAlive" and you must change 1 to 0.
In this case, activesync will never start again, till you connect td2 to laptop or pc with activesync (it changes the value from 0 to 1).
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
pa49 said:
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
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Thank you for the advice i did do what u said and noticed it became a bit better
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
.
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
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Thanks a lot makix
your post were really helpful
i was looking for the way to disable HSDPA and i couldnt found it
Thanks a lot for your help
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
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Thanks Makix
I disabled it
now my phone after one day of use with about 30 minute GPS of use
and 30 minutes of Mp3 and its 50%
better than befor
Hi,
Ive recently installed Android 2.2 Froyo on an SD card on my HD2 and the battery is going down so quick... it wasnt great in Windows mobile but now I'm struggling to get it to last all day...
I'm saying to myself this cant be normal, I'm also trying a Samsung Galaxy S and the battery is so much better!!
Is there anyway I can improve the battery power on my HD2, I know in a HD2 the battery is a 1350mah and the Galaxy S is a 1500mah battery.
Should that make such a difference?
I'm considering going back to Win Mobile but dont really want to but havent got any other choice if the battery carrys on like this....
I also notice the screen and back get really quite warm... I suppose Android is making the system work harder?!?!?!
Its safe to say that you havent read any of the threads about battery life.
Before you say I did a search and didnt find anything Ive already typed in battery in search and found a bunch of threads.
Now what you need to do is find out why its running so warm.
It could be the kernal version you are using.
Ways to improve battery life are using setcpu and underclocking. A lot of members use current widget as a method to see when High drain is occuring.
In sleep mode you should be seeing less than 10ma. If you dont see less then this there is a problem.
Set current widget to 1 min intervals.
Dont use task killers they dont help anything no matter what anyone says.
Dont compare the captivate to the hd2. 2 different phones.
I am using mccm 1.5 customize, and CurrentWidget shows 5mA on standby which I think is good enough. Sometimes, it shows 60mA on standby in a while and my battery drains very fast, even I use Advanced Task Killer but it does not help. I have to reboot the phone to get it back to 5mA on standby.
Anyone has any idea of what may cause my standby power that high (60mA)?
Thanks.
hazard99 said:
Its safe to say that you havent read any of the threads about battery life.
Before you say I did a search and didnt find anything Ive already typed in battery in search and found a bunch of threads.
Now what you need to do is find out why its running so warm.
It could be the kernal version you are using.
Ways to improve battery life are using setcpu and underclocking. A lot of members use current widget as a method to see when High drain is occuring.
In sleep mode you should be seeing less than 10ma. If you dont see less then this there is a problem.
Set current widget to 1 min intervals.
Dont use task killers they dont help anything no matter what anyone says.
Dont compare the captivate to the hd2. 2 different phones.
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Thanks for your tips for better battery life. I was curious about a few things and hope you could clarify a few things for me and some instruction or threads on how to do so. And yes I have searched, that's the first thing I always do before I do anything web based as far as positng.
1. How do you setcpu and underclocking?
2. How do you find the amount of battery that standby takes? i.e. 60mA? How do you get to that setting in android?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Setcpu is an app used to control your cpu speed.
link included
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=394848&d=1283568967
the setcpu dev's site with complete info on how to use it.
http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
To check ma's use (current widget)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776085
long press on the desktop and apply current widget. It will ask you if you want to create a log. Create a log for 1 min intervals. Put the phone to sleep and leave it for a good 5 mins.
You can then open the log file usint astro file manager and check your drainage while sleep.
One thing I found is that If i am having high drain i turn my gps on and restart then it usually settles down and I can turn the gps off.
If you have apps that are syncing you will a higher than normal drain during those times the apps sync. if you set your apps to sync at longer intervals the amount of batter drain will be unnoticable.
I have major battery ocd. I constantly check my battery and have to force myself not to look but still use my phone as any normal person would.
I can pull more than 12 hours easy!
Thanks hazard99!
The first time I ran android I don't think I've had any battery issues and now that I'm looking at the percent on my homescreen Im beginning to feel battery OCD too. It's like I lose 1% atleast every 15 minutes when I look at my screen. But I did take and apply all the tips you told me and I do see that it only uses 5ma when screen is off. I truely don't understand. :/
Stop looking at your screen. Stop worrying. The more you look the more juice you use while the screen is on. There will be more points where the phone is off.
traithudo said:
I am using mccm 1.5 customize, and CurrentWidget shows 5mA on standby which I think is good enough. Sometimes, it shows 60mA on standby in a while and my battery drains very fast, even I use Advanced Task Killer but it does not help. I have to reboot the phone to get it back to 5mA on standby.
Anyone has any idea of what may cause my standby power that high (60mA)?
Thanks.
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Ive also been trying to investigate this, my standby drain is usually 60+ mA, and during use it jumps to the 200's, strange stuff indeed....For you to have 5mA, lol i wish that was for me too =/
otakubakaa said:
Ive also been trying to investigate this, my standby drain is usually 60+ mA, and during use it jumps to the 200's, strange stuff indeed....For you to have 5mA, lol i wish that was for me too =/
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What radio and wm are you using? Do you use SetCPU?
I had high battery consumption, too. But now I found something interesting...
Due I'm not allowed to post links, yet, search for the post with topic:
[SOLUTION] Possible solution for heavy battery drainage.
With this fix: over night I only lost 20% instead of 59% of battery.
uninstall SetCPU
10507 said:
What radio and wm are you using? Do you use SetCPU?
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im using the same radio as you (2.10), energycookie rom 21916, and my setcpu is at interactive 245/729, and for sleep its at 245/384, hastarin kernal.
Use a Battdrv.dll from older HD2 ROM 1.48 Etc. I'm not sure if you recmod the module and replace the current one in Windows if you will get the same benefit as if you cooked the driver in.
i just updated my kernal to the latest zimage in mattc's froyosense's evo tree, and my standby is around 6-11 ma now, guess that solved some issues lol, anyone know whats the normal operating ma power consumption for texting?
EDIT: Now when i try to enable wifi i simply get "error", did i mess up on something? =/
EDIT: Solved above problem. WOOT!
So, I'm at a loss of what to do here. No matter what settings I seem to use I can't get good/decent battery life.
In fact, I get terrible battery life. With light to moderate usage I have to charge my phone at least two times a day, mostly three. Current widget reads that at standby I'm anywhere between 55mA-70mA and when in use 200mA-500mA. When charging it reaches 400mA-600mA
I see everyone talking about being able to get 5-10mA and I'm amazed at this. I've searched and read most "Battery saver" threads and none of it seems to work.
I was originally using Chucky rom lite and when I noticed the drain was abnormal I switched to the set up that chiasoft uses in his ReadMe for the ROM (stock 2.10ROM/2.08 radio).
Although since switching to the stock WinMo ROM I had repeated BSOD and SOD issues. To the point that it became unusable. I switched over to latest Energy ROM.I installed EBL and on both Stock and this Energy ROM. I am still having BSOD/SOD problems. Could it be the EBL? I plan on upgrading the radio to 2.12 in a few after I test out this EBL theory.
My setup as of this post is this:
WinMo ROM: Energy.BLACKSTONE.21916.Sense2.5.Nov.08 (Switched back to Stock 2.10)
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2 (Switched to 2.12)
Android: MooMoo Froyostone Sense 3.2 w/hastrain kernel
SetCPU:
998max/245min Ondemand on boot
Profiles: Screen off; Priority 100; 384max/245min ondemand
Battery <25% 576max/245min Priority 0 ondemand
Sampling 20000; Up Threshold 40
Advanced Task Killer:
Kill Level Agressive
I really don't want my LI-ON battery to die before I've even had the phone for the year. So if anyone can think of anything to help I'd be ever so grateful.
And of course, thanks to all the people who make all this possible.
(Sorry for the tl;dr post. I wanted to give as much info as possible.)
when you fully charge your batter what is your mV ? use the battery life widget to determine this. If it is not nowhere 4000mV once fully charged, you might need to consider buying a replacement battery.
btw. my mA reading is actually worst than yours. Might have to calibrate the battery again later.
mofoahh said:
when you fully charge your batter what is your mV ? use the battery life widget to determine this. If it is not nowhere 4000mV once fully charged, you might need to consider buying a replacement battery.
btw. my mA reading is actually worst than yours. Might have to calibrate the battery again later.
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idk what it is fully charged. I'll be sure to check it later though. How do you calibrate the battery?
Also, I realized that I made an oversight on my part. When I switched to the stock WinMo rom I hadn't realized fully that it changed my Radio to 2.08 even though I posted it.
The rom chef recommends 2.10ROM/2.12 Radio, so that's what I switched to to check out that combination.
btw change it to interactive not on demand.
you charge the battery when your phone is off. Till your charge indicator turns green.
Once that is off. you can use root explorer or adb and go to rm/data/system delete the batterystats.bin leave your phone plugged in while you are deleting the batterystats.bin file
i prefer root explorer. but its not free and your device has to be rooted.
let the phone drain the battery till its dead and turn it on again to make sure it is completely dead.
charge the phone like you would usually afterwards.
mofoahh said:
btw change it to interactive not on demand.
you charge the battery when your phone is off. Till your charge indicator turns green.
Once that is off. you can use root explorer or adb and go to rm/data/system delete the batterystats.bin leave your phone plugged in while you are deleting the batterystats.bin file
i prefer root explorer. but its not free and your device has to be rooted.
let the phone drain the battery till its dead and turn it on again to make sure it is completely dead.
charge the phone like you would usually afterwards.
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I don't have interactive in my options.
what version are you running?
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what version are you running?
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2.03 I got it through here.
Just installed 2.04 and there still isn't an interactive.
thats odd. because im on 2.0.4 also and I am able to select interactive.
btw i followed this guide for the battery conditioning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827762&highlight=ultimate+setcpu
and this one for my setcpu settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8246854&postcount=4
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thats odd. because im on 2.0.4 also and I am able to select interactive.
btw i followed this guide for the battery conditioning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827762&highlight=ultimate+setcpu
and this one for my setcpu settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8246854&postcount=4
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Yeah. No interactive settings. Also, that guide recommends 1190 max, but mine only goes up to 998.
Also, I finally got it to down to 7mA in standby. When I changed the radio to 2.12 and using a 2.10 stock WinMo rom.
no issues here getting 48 hours of light use, or a full 24 of moderate use...
I've yet to "condition" my battery. I'm worried it'll do more harm than good. Especially since I just got it finally to a decent mA draw. Although I'm worried my phone won't charge up to 100%. Always stop at 95.
Is conditioning really necessary/important?
easy answer... whats your full charge voltage? shuld be 4.2
if not , your looseing batt life..
t1h5ta3 said:
easy answer... whats your full charge voltage? shuld be 4.2
if not , your looseing batt life..
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yes full charge voltage should be around 4.2. Try charging it with the phone OFF till your charge indicator is green. This way you can achieve a full charge.
By the way how the hell are you getting 48 hours on light usage?? excuse my language. What are your setcpu settings, configurations. etc.
mofoahh said:
yes full charge voltage should be around 4.2. Try charging it with the phone OFF till your charge indicator is green. This way you can achieve a full charge.
By the way how the hell are you getting 48 hours on light usage?? excuse my language. What are your setcpu settings, configurations. etc.
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Yeah, 48 hours seems improbable. I finally got it down to 7-10mA on standby, and I think it charges up to 4.2 but I'll find out for sure tonight.
same
I had the same problem, make sure you use EBL android launcher and set to autoboot at 3 seconds. Make sure you restart your phone anytime youw ant to load android. I assure you this will work.
My HD2, like all others can be flattened in 2-3 hours with windows/android if used hard, the difference seems to be on very light usage/standby win mobile could last 4 days... with everything turned off and basically not used Android would struggle to last 2 days !
Same phone same network/signal levels etc, can only be poor power management within Android, and I think that means voltages for all the processor and comms modules, not just a simple case of turning down speeds.
What do others think ?
Update: Upon switching to WinMo:2.10 and Radio:2.12+ MooMoo's MMS fixed froystone3.2 I was achieving 6-10mA in standby. The phone would last all day with a two-three hour charging period with moderate usage. Low battery use, rare DC's. Perfect. Best build I've used so far.
I'm noticing a new problem however, and I wonder if it's happened to Chiasoft who recommended this build. I'm getting serious touch screen freezes since last night. Anytime before that the set up was working AMAZINGLY.
Now? It's almost unusable sometimes. This morning it was happening in Android so I switched to WinMo and surprisingly enough it happened in there too. So I read touch freezes are Radio problems mostly. Is this true? Should I switch to a new radio? I'm confused as to why it would just randomly start happening though and worried it would mess up my battery troubles I just solved.
Any advice?
Hmm. I noticed that it almost always freezes when I hold down the end home button to turn off the phone or data or to silence it. I can't actually use the touch screen again until I hit the button again to put it to sleep.
I wonder if it's hardware related because it was happening in WinMo that way as well.
Okay, so now the entire adroid system is acting up mostly related to the touchscreen. Like I use the calculator and it appears that i'm holding a button down. Or I try to make a call and it's not responding. It appears that when I hit end call button repeatedly it allows me to unlock the phone. But when holding down the end call button to get to the Power Off screen nothing in that menu is responsive.
It seems... software related, but I'm not sure. Any info would be helpful. I'm going to reformat my card and reinstall droid and see what happens.
So, called t-mobile. They're sending me a new replacer phone. Oh well. We'll see how that one goes.
pretzdothack said:
Okay, so now the entire adroid system is acting up mostly related to the touchscreen. Like I use the calculator and it appears that i'm holding a button down. Or I try to make a call and it's not responding. It appears that when I hit end call button repeatedly it allows me to unlock the phone. But when holding down the end call button to get to the Power Off screen nothing in that menu is responsive.
It seems... software related, but I'm not sure. Any info would be helpful. I'm going to reformat my card and reinstall droid and see what happens.
So, called t-mobile. They're sending me a new replacer phone. Oh well. We'll see how that one goes.
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I give you only a very short suggestion
You have just to DELETE SETCPU
and delete ANY TASK KILLER (you can keep it just to close any apps that could hang, but not to "free up ram")
Android is not Windows, you dont need to free up ram, and you dont need to overclock/undervolt to gain some minutes of battlife despite stability.
Talk to any Dev and they will confirm this.
Good Luck