Acording to engadet mobile sony has signed a deal with foxconn to produce there android phone(s).
Could they also being using them for there next wm phone.
it would make sense to do a deal for mutiple phones with one company, as there could be discounts and stuff by doing muliple deals and we already know SE dont want to use htc anymore.
might be promising, they make handsets for nokia and a couple others I think..
does look like they're doing the x2 Winmo as well
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081223PB200.html
shame, i wanted asus to make it.
does anyone know anything about this company? are they any good? what have they made before?
What would you like to know? Foxconn has been used a lot by Apple in the past. I believe they made most of the iPods and such. I believe they have been responsible for some iPaqs bij Compaq/HP.
Guess they are qualified enough to produce a Winmo phone. No worries about that.
To be honest, I'm a bit gutted they moved away from HTC. They seem like a good company. Might have to make my next phone a proper HTC is this is true, and the new X2 isn't up the scratch.
Just looked on wikipedia, did not notice how big they are and how many products they have helped to produce. they make htc look like small fry (look at there revenue/net income compared with htc).
For those like me who dont know about the company look on wiki, the helped produce the iphone, ipod, mac mini, mac air, macbook pro, ipod nano, ps2, ps3, wii, xbox 360, amazon kindle, phones from motorola, nokia and SE.
As well as this they make pc parts and motherboards for big companys like asus, dell, hp and sony. heatsinks for amd and intel branded motherboards.
this is a big company that makes very big products but are not very well known as they dont have there own branding on the product and parts they make.
it was rumered that mobinova were to make the x2 a while back
if foxconn\ (mobinova) are making the android phone that does not mean theyll do the wm one though.
THE GRIZZ said:
it was rumered that mobinova were to make the x2 a while back
if foxconn\ (mobinova) are making the android phone that does not mean theyll do the wm one though.
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i think (but may be wrong) that mobinova is part on foxconn (a company owned by foxconn and as such meaning foxconn is making it, if u know what i mean. think retro studios make the metriod prime games but are owned by nintendo so its a nintendo game).
it only says android phones at the mo but looking at there experiance in with ipaqs and phones like iphone, sony will probally use them to make there next x phone (which i think will be wm not android),
If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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AGREED.
The main reason I would only ever buy HTC is this forum.
Who else would agree with this statement?
We should set up a poll methinks.
I wonder if HTC know about this forum, and if they knew just how many people buy HTC because of this forum, I think they would sponsor it, if only in a small way, monetarelly speakng that is
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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why buy a touch pro 2 when its the same spec as your x1???
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Just looked on wikipedia, did not notice how big they are and how many products they have helped to produce. they make htc look like small fry (look at there revenue/net income compared with htc).
For those like me who dont know about the company look on wiki, the helped produce the iphone, ipod, mac mini, mac air, macbook pro, ipod nano, ps2, ps3, wii, xbox 360, amazon kindle, phones from motorola, nokia and SE.
As well as this they make pc parts and motherboards for big companys like asus, dell, hp and sony. heatsinks for amd and intel branded motherboards.
this is a big company that makes very big products but are not very well known as they dont have there own branding on the product and parts they make.
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Nice work. I'll have to have a little wiki look myself.
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If HTC does not make X2, it's even better for X2.
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Hm now now, if it is coming from the president of the company it does not rub off too good on all of us who paid for the device!
http://www.wmexperts.com/where-sony-ericsson-went-wrong-and-how-xperia-x1-was-experiment
i dont think i am the only one, but somehow, i still love my xperia, to date, i still have not seen a mobile i would replace my x1 with
well it may be an experiment, but it turns out it's a very good one, so far I like the xperia more than any other phone, I went thru a lot of WM phones, and I think it is the best out there, it may not have all the features that some have (accelerometer, tv-out) it may not be the easiest to type, but overall is good, fast and very good looking.
Looking forward for the next-gen xperia.
its a quote taking out of proporstion. he probally said the x1 was a test of the wm market and the high end (very expensive phones). to see if it would sell to a level that they make a decent profit.
from what i have seen they have sold tons of x1's (for the type of phone it is) and have been happy with the product (crack problem aside).
so i think they will be strongly supporting the wm format and a x2 will be coming out and probally be alot better make and support at the start with some great software from SE (as they now have experiance with wm software, as shown in the beta r3 release).
I love my Xperia as well and i wouldn't change it for any other phone as no other phone has so many functions and looks good at the same time! (and no, HTC phones do not look half as good!)...
but for a company's CEO to come out and say that the device was an experiment for them is completely wrong. If companies want to experiment they can do it with prototypes, not get customers involved in the process.
If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
Of course is was an "EXPERIMENT" it was their first Windows Mobile Phone.
Doesnt De-Value it at all - as long as they keep supporting it
Xperimental much?
It's quite a success other than the casing and sometimes the signal problems.
Otherwise it's a killer in a small package.
yeah, X1 isn't a bad phone at all
Although I wish they give faster updates for the X1 & add more "SE/X1-features".
Something like an exclusivity
made me think of any of these 2 cartoon strips
http://online.sfsu.edu/~swansonb/larson_peer pressure.gif
http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9706/df970626.jpg
PS: I LOVE my X1!!! It is definitely the best piece of technology that I've held in my hands so far. Just fell in LOVE with it at the first touch
And I'm so happy I took part in an experiment like this one. It turned out to be successful (being in here with so many talented developers and custom roms, yet having the excellent service of SonyEricsson). Thank you SE for this Xperi-ment.
Their next experiment will be the X2 on Android OS.
Motorola is also doing experiments on all platforms: S60 UIQ, WinMob, their own linux platform, Android (coming soon).
I see nothing wrong experimenting with platforms. Not, as long as they provide support for all models and platforms, and continue updating software on all platforms.
Love my X1 too ...you guys are right -easily the best bit of kit I own
As long as support and updates continue, all's well
Looking forward to the X2!
i love my X1 too and it is the best phone i ever had.. waiting for X2..
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If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
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Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
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did nt like the design of the p range
It's just that it priced itself out of the game without bringing anything really groundbreaking
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i agree with that. but it doesnt make me love my X1 any less.
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ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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i loved the w960i but u were stuck with what u had (limited options to change the phone as it was on symbian uiq)
but the x1 is by far the best phone i have owned and i think its still the best phone u can buy now and as far as i have seen in the near future too (tp2 the closest but still not as good as the x1 in design and near the same in spec).
Today markes the day that Sony Ericsson Ends it partnership with Wm, I guess the Next smartphone the X2 Will either be for Symbian S60 or Google's Android OS. Welll the had a good run with windows mobile but now its over.
But Atleast We know that there will be/could be a PSP Phone coming.
Source plz.
I'm not surprised. SE was barely involved in SEX1 developement, x1 is HTC device excluded panels... And even panels... I don't know how much has been developed by SE
so, who cares basically? I purchased X1 'cause I need a qwerty small device... that's it
Here You Go!!
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/009/05/sony_ericsson_to_dump_windows_mobile.htm
Thats true, Thats why i nvr Bought one. But its a little sad that no more inovative things for Wm like panals. But its okay tho.
The article is barely a reliable source to confirm that SE is ending partnership with Microsoft.
The rumor has been been going around since even before X1 was launched and if Ericsson is really off loading their shares to Sony, if i remember correctly Sony was always a big fan of Windows Mobile.
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The article is barely a reliable source to confirm that SE is ending partnership with Microsoft.
The rumor has been been going around since even before X1 was launched and if Ericsson is really off loading their shares to Sony, if i remember correctly Sony was always a big fan of Windows Mobile.
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Well this time it is most likely true because First there sales for the flagship X1 sucked, second There phones arent selling so there losing money, Third Wm is the MOST expensive OS out there, so there trying to cut cost and maybe save them self from Spliting up. There almost sdoing as bad as Motorola. And ya
I heard a rumour that it was the andriod phones that are likely to be reduced or stopped by companies like sony and a few others as it does not really hold its own market. i think people see it like symbian for normal phones and mw for business. android is like iphone but companies are thinking if u want something like iphone u would buy an iphone.
not saying the rumour is true as there is at the mo nothing to back it up but i hear that was what a lot of mobile phones companies were thinking
Ya, and i have use Symbian i Wm has just 2 things over it, 1 Its UI is very costumizable and Its great intergration with everything Windows. But symbian has Way better res 16 million colors, better Costumizablility Video ring and others, better more stable Wi-Fi connection, Faster too. So really X2 would be alot better on symbian even.
Rumors, nothing else. (it's a symbian "fan-page" )
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Rumors, nothing else. (it's a symbian "fan-page" )
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But It also says android, Also there saying what the head of Ericsson said so it couldn't be to far from The truth. But I think its true, Bad Pofits+Low selling Wm phones+ EXPENSIVE OS($99 each Vs $29 s60 vs Free android)=Bye Bye Window Phones, And For them to Truly have a High tech Phone and Feature packed the cant Us wm, cuz it doesn't support alot of things I.e OMINIA HD left Wm because it couldnt support half the things it has especially HD. But maybe Windows Phone 7 will change that.
workingman, your specific facts are all wrong, all your arguments are retarded and your source is just pure speculation of a dumb writer. go back to your homes citizens nothing interesting here.
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workingman, your specific facts are all wrong, all your arguments are retarded and your source is just pure speculation of a dumb writer. go back to your homes citizens nothing interesting here.
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"Go back to your home" What are you a racist. I bet you voted for McCain. Wow havent heard something like that for a while But hmmmm I dont know, maybe your right. Just because I work As a Firmware engineer For samsung in California i dont know anything right.... Sorry. I guess a person that most likely works a walmart knows more than me.
I also bought the X1 because it is just an amazing phone. Although I owned two SE-phones before the X1 I never thought that I HAVE to buy a SE-phone again... The X1 is a HTC device and I think it opened the HTC-window for many SE-users; I think the X1 is a better commercial success for HTC then for HTC, because SE will loose with the X2 at least all the users that don't like Android and Symbian (including me).
With the X1 I said in fact 'goodbye SE', 'hello HTC'
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"Go back to your home" What are you a racist. I bet you voted for McCain. Wow havent heard something like that for a while But hmmmm I dont know, maybe your right. Just because I work As a Firmware engineer For samsung in California i dont know anything right.... Sorry. I guess a person that most likely works a walmart knows more than me.
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label me whatever you like . that does not change the fact that you are spreading garbage based on a very dumb article writen by a symbian "freak" (pun intended) and a very retarded speculation from your part.
the recent development in software and some of the leaks about the x2 hardware (better keyboard, based on 6.5..etc) as mentioned in the other thread suggests that SE are committed to WM.
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I also bought the X1 because it is just an amazing phone. Although I owned two SE-phones before the X1 I never thought that I HAVE to buy a SE-phone again... The X1 is a HTC device and I think it opened the HTC-window for many SE-users; I think the X1 is a better commercial success for HTC then for HTC, because SE will loose with the X2 at least all the users that don't like Android and Symbian (including me).
With the X1 I said in fact 'goodbye SE', 'hello HTC'
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True, True, But ya. I think your right with that But another reason i like the X1 is because of the designe , Thats why i like most Phone, I mean teh OS is very important to me BUt if The feature List is Killer like The Upcoming Nokia n97(which i already pre-odered for $750). Its sooo advanced that i would give Up the best OS out there WM for a less advanced but still good S60. You gatta be open minded when it comes to OS's. I have owned and used all the Mobile Os. Android, Mac, S60, RIM, Wm, Palm and touch wiz, so i know what i am talking about when i say what i say. Now i am using the HTC HD because its super sexy, In 1 month ill be using the Nokia N97 because its sexier, Way more features, 32 GIGS of memory, 3.5 inch screen With 16:9 Res, NOW no Phone can top that. Can you name one, that has better features?
Oh well, windows mobile is actually a really good OS.
I have an iphone, blackberry bold, nokia n82, and my beloved Xperia X1i.
That being said, I've come to learn and know about almost every OS, of course there's Android which I probably will not experience.
I love Windows Mobile. Symbian is quite responsive, but simplistic.
The iphone's OS is also simple, beautiful, and good for gaming.
Blackberry's OS is mainly for eye candy and business, I couldn't really find many games on its platform.
Android, not too sure!
Heres a little proof That Sony ericsson is starting its move FROM WM http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-foxconn-sourced-android-phones-from-sony-er/
But also you could be right that the are not gonna completely Move. I can admit to my wrong, But im say theres a huge chance there gonna start to move away from WM
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-epic-quarterly-loss-adds-another-round-of-j/
Like this is the years flagship phone and guess what its a symbian OS phone UHHHH
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_idou-2683.php
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Oh well, windows mobile is actually a really good OS.
I have an iphone, blackberry bold, nokia n82, and my beloved Xperia X1i.
That being said, I've come to learn and know about almost every OS, of course there's Android which I probably will not experience.
I love Windows Mobile. Symbian is quite responsive, but simplistic.
The iphone's OS is also simple, beautiful, and good for gaming.
Blackberry's OS is mainly for eye candy and business, I couldn't really find many games on its platform.
Android, not too sure!
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Yes your Right.. I dont think anyone on this web site can say the have had a better OS(even me) but im just saying SE is loving Wm now. Did you know that the Have only made 1 Wm phone and the sales were BAD, All other smartphones have been Symbian(which i like because how it interhrates everything into its Ui(which cant be costumizedbut okay)
For example The P series, M series G series and W series.
your silly topic is now your signature. seriously dude, you have issues
-SE releasing android does not mean leaving WM. it just means they are experimenting with something new . SE said they were supporting android since LAST YEAR.
-your other links (idou and SE losing money) are pointless and irrelevant here
-whare the hell did you come up with the wm OS price and the very poor X1 sales numbers??!!!!!!!!!!!!!
check this out:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2009/bert-letter-en.shtml
its real ,and he hits the week points of SE
"Real innovations have been substituted by dreams. As a consumer I'm offered rapidly aging and overpriced phones that have no future on the market under the guise of 'state-of-the-art solutions'. Another manifestation of the company's dishonesty was when Sony Ericsson tried to persuade me via weak PR and advertising that these were marvelous products."
end quote.
Well, this guy is nailing it! Spot on! Dishonesty is the right word. Persuasion and promises without any real world backing.
"oh looky looky the X1 with the AMAZING panels that are going to change your everyday live" - oh yeah, it's one year after that and there are a handful of them. I haven't used any of them in months.
"oh looky looky the X2 is simply amazing cutting edge device with the fantastic tile panel" - oh yeah, very amazing with the pathetic old hardware and the annoying panel that is nothing more than a gimmick and is impossible to use on a daily basis.
Haha...
Damn!! This guy's got it spot on!
@nevermind: What was that u said, SE won't be phased if they loose me as a customer? Reality check, u guys are loosing it.
Imagine a current X1 user upgrading to a X2 and realising a couple of hours down the line that he just bought a re-glorified plastic encased X1 with an 8mp camera. lol
I really digged SE but as of late I've, and apparently more SE fanbois really felt as if though we've been cheated with the X1.
So, whatcha gonna do?
With have been cheated with the X2 not X1. Also, nevermind =/= SE.
the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
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Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
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lol. i did say i would only get a x2 if they give it to me as a free replacement so it really does not matter how much sony decides to sell it for.
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
lol where you get that???
xperia 1.5....
why not 1.8 for the 8 mpx camera.
haha sounds funny
look here
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/products/phoneportfolio
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Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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lets try not to be childish
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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Please provide proof and links!!
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Please provide proof and links!!
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it obviously was a sneer to SE. Not real! but seriously, if they really called it x1.5 , i would consider buying it, because it'll probably be the only phone to have such a model name/number. And perhaps, x2 is not worth the x2 name, because of the minor improvements over x1. But..... x1.5 was just a joke, c'mon...
I spent a few years with SE's UIQ phones, and a similar thing happened there. Since Sony Ericsson WAS in practice UIQ (apart from one Motorola I think), not only did they terminally underspec the UIQ terminals, they actually killed the UIQ interface, which was a real shame, since it was a very stable and efficient phone OS.
Déjà vu...
If you look at the UIQ forum on my-symbian.com, you will see similar complaints, letters published to CEOs etc. There must be some serious disconnects in SE for this to happen with their flagship range(s).
It's called greed. Also, providing as little as possible and pricing it like a NASA prototype...
...and the poster with the 1.5 was OBVIOUSLY joking...
I hope sony respond positivley to this letter and turn their act around
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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Well its their loss - we only want to help >.<
Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Well maybe they will, if the x1's keep falling appart or have other weird issue's like mines that turns blue'ish when sliding open.. the screen cable gets a bit loosy when i slide it open. ( its already been in repairs once for that issue but back then it went off instead of turning blue.. )
orelsi said:
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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...aGREED!!
Any one has an idea of how many units are sold around the world? and may be IPhones selling too.
i like to see if the selling after one year of release would drive software development to work for it, or will it just die like other good HTC units thanks to the company bad strategy
HD2 sales
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Any one has an idea of how many units are sold around the world? and may be IPhones selling too.
i like to see if the selling after one year of release would drive software development to work for it, or will it just die like other good HTC units thanks to the company bad strategy
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You could send an email to HTC and ask, I do not think it is something they would need to keep a secret. They may even be proud of the number sold, as there are probably more HTC touch phones than iphones sold.
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You could send an email to HTC and ask, I do not think it is something they would need to keep a secret. They may even be proud of the number sold, as there are probably more HTC touch phones than iphones sold.
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it would be great if this is the situation, will search around with HTC
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You could send an email to HTC and ask, I do not think it is something they would need to keep a secret. They may even be proud of the number sold, as there are probably more HTC touch phones than iphones sold.
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lol, i really doubt that, i just read that Apple has sold 9 million in the the 2Q of this year alone.
This has caused their net income to jump 90 percent and their stocks are siring in leaps and bounds.
I bought a 3GS and a HD2 last week to compares them, i personally prefer the HD2, but the T mobile one i got sucks, i need to flash it and unlock it.
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lol, i really doubt that, i just read that Apple has sold 9 million in the the 2Q of this year alone.
This has caused their net income to jump 90 percent and their stocks are siring in leaps and bounds.
I bought a 3GS and a HD2 last week to compares them, i personally prefer the HD2, but the T mobile one i got sucks, i need to flash it and unlock it.
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Please do share us with your personal results on this matter
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it would be great if this is the situation, will search around with HTC
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If you compares the net incomes of HTC and Apple, you could possibly get some kind of estimation as to the (very) rough volume of phone sales HTC have made.
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The i phones touch software i believe is more refined, but the HTC's larger screen i believe makes up for this, i am running 1.42, perhaps in later updates there has been some change.
Regardless, i believe the touch systems are about equal.
The iphone was pumping more volume through my mini max 2 speaker than the hd2 even with sound booster, however the wow srs hd, made the hd2 surpass the iphone in customisability and quality of sound.
I have decided i just don't like apples style that much, it's not any one thing about the product, it's a good product, it's just not my taste.
The HD2 is my taste and it's on par if not better then the iphone.
Considering on par performance, i can make the choice purely on taste.
I think macs reign is going to come to an end in 2011 with windows mobile 7 and the massive range of products that will support it at prices that could likely be lower then than the i phones.
randommann said:
If you compares the net incomes of HTC and Apple, you could possibly get some kind of estimation as to the (very) rough volume of phone sales HTC have made.
The i phones touch software i believe is more refined, but the HTC's larger screen i believe makes up for this, i am running 1.42, perhaps in later updates there has been some change.
Regardless, i believe the touch systems are about equal.
The iphone was pumping more volume through my mini max 2 speaker than the hd2 even with sound booster, however the wow srs hd, made the hd2 surpass the iphone in customisability and quality of sound.
I have decided i just don't like apples style that much, it's not any one thing about the product, it's a good product, it's just not my taste.
The HD2 is my taste and it's on par if not better then the iphone.
Considering on par performance, i can make the choice purely on taste.
I think macs reign is going to come to an end in 2011 with windows mobile 7 and the massive range of products that will support it at prices that could likely be lower then than the i phones.
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Let's just hope HTC won't kill HD2 with it's everlasting strategy of releasing new products every few months causing old ones to die silently
khaeid said:
Let's just hope HTC won't kill HD2 with it's everlasting strategy of releasing new products every few months causing old ones to die silently
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Truth be told i think the HD2 will die when windows 7 is released.
Easy solution is to just sell it and buy a HD3 or whatever else may be available around that time.
As see the HD2 as just being HTC's little experiment, something to bridge the gap between wm7's arrival.
I wouldn't mind seeing and android version released though.
I'll be happy with a HD2 on wm6.5 till the end of the year in any case.
Edit: Please help me in this thread, i have one simple question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6261832#post6261832
randommann said:
Truth be told i think the HD2 will die when windows 7 is released.
Easy solution is to just sell it and buy a HD3 or whatever else may be available around that time.
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Well, that's not really a solution. WM7 and WM6.5/6.5.X are in no way comparable! WM7 is a disaster (as far as I can tell by now) and there's no way I'll switch to WM7!
I Dont' see why there is a hype for wp7, to me it looks horrible i don't like all the square "hubs" on the homescreen and page transition just takes too long, seeing demos on it, it feels like a cheap and poorly developed OS
malex1 said:
You could send an email to HTC and ask, I do not think it is something they would need to keep a secret. They may even be proud of the number sold, as there are probably more HTC touch phones than iphones sold.
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Well, i did ask HTC, but they responded as this is classified top secret nuclear weapons of ass destruction information
randommann said:
If you compares the net incomes of HTC and Apple, you could possibly get some kind of estimation as to the (very) rough volume of phone sales HTC have made.
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Not true. Apple makes a massive profit margin on each iphone sold; if I remember right, it sells something like 5-10% of smartphones (or phones, I forget which) and earns about 30-35% of the profits.
I wouldn't be surprised if all HTC phones put together sold more than the iPhone, but HTC definitely doesn't make as much profit.
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...nuclear weapons of ass destruction...
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Now there's a picture I'm not comfortable with
Sony announced a partnership with HTC to continue making PS certified handsets. Also PS Suite is getting renamed to PS Mobile.
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We'll see if HTC picks up the xperia plays torch.
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Willie_Dynamite said:
Sony announced a partnership with HTC to continue making PS certified handsets. Also PS Suite is getting renamed to PS Mobile.
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It's just sad to see a company this lost, they don't even know how to stand up on their own, and they have never knew.
And this time I bet that they are going to fail even more with the PS-certification-idea and the concept of a smart-phone with gaming performance.
Perhaps we will maybe see the same shell of the Xperia Play but with the other equipment that the Sony-engineers had with the HDMI-output or MHL-capable USB, but it depends on how lost Sony feel I believe.
And one thing I know for sure is that, even if it stands HTC on the device, I won't buy it and let Sony make a profit out of me again, hope they just don't spread their dirt to HTC.
And may I ask for the source so I can read some more around the news perhaps?
Thanks in advance.
Friendly regards RazerBlader
I should have never switched from HTC to Sony Ericson at the first place.
Damn. Gamepad.
But, seriously I hope HTC decides to release a phone with a dedicated gamepad with this shiny new PS certificate.
sources:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/htc-joins-sony-as-a-maker-of-playstation-certified-handsets-pla/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwiCZKK0cI
http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/sony-e3/
Mobile gaming stuff starts around 1:03:28
I like how there was no mention of the Play when they talk about bringing gaming to Android. It's like the shameful bastard child that lives in the attic . If you watch the conference, the HTC announcement pretty much kills any possibility of a Play2 so now we can finally lay those to rest.
bornotty said:
I should have never switched from HTC to Sony Ericson at the first place.
Damn. Gamepad.
But, seriously I hope HTC decides to release a phone with a dedicated gamepad with this shiny new PS certificate.
sources:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/htc-joins-sony-as-a-maker-of-playstation-certified-handsets-pla/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwiCZKK0cI
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I don't see it happening. They released the phone+gamepad and it didn't go so well. It doesn't seem cost effective anymore to add a gamepad which we know has issues with ICS. HTC will probably keep the handset thin and lightweight using on-screen controls.
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http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/sony-e3/
Mobile gaming stuff starts around 1:03:28
I like how there was no mention of the Play when they talk about bringing gaming to Android. It's like the shameful bastard child that lives in the attic . If you watch the conference, the HTC announcement pretty much kills any possibility of a Play2 so now we can finally lay those to rest.
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Hilarious and true
I wouln't be surprised if HTC makes a gaming smartphone after this.
Aw f*ck.
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oh sony
you should be hones from firs and tell us that you can't support your products ...
i wish samsung or HTc had game expedience like sony , i'm sure they support was better than sony-liar
I highly doubt Sony will allow HTC to create a phone with a dedicated game pad. I believe they will want to keep that idea in house, the playstation certification is just allowing ps store and ps pocket for their new devices, similar to the Xperia s
Not that it matters, everything announced from last years e3 concerning phones turned out to be vapourware
I have never cared for HTC or its sense UI. I realize there are probably more fans of HTC's sense UI then any other UI overlay. That aside I would love it if every manufacturer made at least 1 phone a year with stock vanilla android. And a for HTC with the Play mobile. I dont see them making a gamepad phone anytime soon. Remember HTC announce some months ago that people preferred thin phones over phones with big batteries. Personally I like the slight chubbiness of the PLAY, yeah its thicker then most phones but then with the gamepad I think its just right. So I really do not see a gamepad+phone from HTC if they are sticking to the "thin is in" routine.
What will happen to our beloved Xperia Play ?
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I don't see it happening. They released the phone+gamepad and it didn't go so well. It doesn't seem cost effective anymore to add a gamepad which we know has issues with ICS. HTC will probably keep the handset thin and lightweight using on-screen controls.
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THIS gamepad has issues with ICS, and the original programming and setup of the phone. Doesn't mean it can't be done with a new pad designed for ICS from the ground up.
Not holding my breath though
sufy1000 said:
What will happen to our beloved Xperia Play ?
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Will continue to kick ass! HTC with PlayStation is like the NXT Xperia phones. PlayStation experiences on non-PlayStation devices.
sufy1000 said:
What will happen to our beloved Xperia Play ?
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Sony has already resigned it to the dustbin. In hindsight, it was foolish to believe that Sony could make a device which was equally good at gaming and being a smartphone.
I'm going to keep the PLAY as a decent handheld emulator and buy a phone which sole purpose is to be a great smartphone (HTC One X?).
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Sony has already resigned it to the dustbin. In hindsight, it was foolish to believe that Sony could make a device which was equally good at gaming and being a smartphone.
I'm going to keep the PLAY as a decent handheld emulator and buy a phone which sole purpose is to be a great smartphone (HTC One X?).
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Yes, go for it. I'd do the same but I'm stuck until next April
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At around 1:44 in that clip you can hear how he says "and we are going to leave that feature", so don't dream to much about something more like this.
But then I see more why they change their name from PS suite to PS Mobile so that it will fit in even more into their new thinking, and as a positive effect to see them deliver this PS pocket for every brand is that they don't have to develop everything on their own.
And you can practically say that they are giving away their own trademark (Playstation) for free (with a cost for the certification of course) and throw it like a bone at the community so they maybe get some development for free(?)
And get their trademark even more respectable, and perhaps you will see more real game-pads in the future, but not from Sony themselves perhaps, at least as I somehow manage to turn the facts around xP
And (the last and ) if it someday comes out an HTC with a real physical game-pad, PS certificate and real potential hardware added to the receipt, then I wouldn't doubt to get it since HTC seems to be more aware of how they wanna delight their customers with development and updates, so maybe that could be Sonys rescue in the long race, to let every other manufacturer have a taste of the Playstation-trademark in their devices
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At around 1:44 in that clip you can hear how he says "and we are going to leave that feature", so don't dream to much about something more like this.
But then I see more why they change their name from PS suite to PS Mobile so that it will fit in even more into their new thinking, and as a positive effect to see them deliver this PS pocket for every brand is that they don't have to develop everything on their own.
And you can practically say that they are giving away their own trademark (Playstation) for free (with a cost for the certification of course) and throw it like a bone at the community so they maybe get some development for free(?)
And get their trademark even more respectable, and perhaps you will see more real game-pads in the future, but not from Sony themselves perhaps, at least as I somehow manage to turn the facts around xP
And (the last and ) if it someday comes out an HTC with a real physical game-pad, PS certificate and real potential hardware added to the receipt, then I wouldn't doubt to get it since HTC seems to be more aware of how they wanna delight their customers with development and updates, so maybe that could be Sonys rescue in the long race, to let every other manufacturer have a taste of the Playstation-trademark in their devices
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*its lead not leave