Two phones--HP IPAQ 910 (runs WM 6.1 Professional), and a Sony Ericsson TM506 (dumbphone). I could use either, with my T-Mobile (USA) SIM card. However, although the IPAQ has 3G, that will not work on T-Mobile, which uses a different band for 3G.
The TM506 works very well as a 3G modem for my laptops, giving me a fast Internet connection on the go, when there is no available wi-fi connection. It also works well as a phone. Of course, it has much elss PDA capability than the IPAQ, much worse keyboard for text input (just a normal phone keypad), and much smaller screen.
Therefore, two phones, one SIM card, the following looks like the best solution to me--leave the SIM in the TM506, and use that as a phone. (If the battery runs out, the IPAQ could be used as a backup phone.) Also use the TM506 as a 3G modem, both for laptops, and for the IPAQ.
Use the IPAQ as a PDA, and as a small internet device, connected via wi-fi or tethered through the Tm506.
The problem is--although tethering from a laptop to the TM506 works fine, I cannot get the IPAQ to tether through it. I set up the BT pairing, I choose the DUN service, I successfully set up a connection in the Connections tab, routed through the BT modem (TM506), using the same settings as on the laptop. Everything looks like it is set up correctly.
However, when I try to connect through that connection, I always get an error message very quickly, about "cannot connect for unknown reason".
I've tried so many things, over days now, and cannot get it to work. I've scoured the Internet looking for info, and found nothing that works for me.
Does anyone here have any suggestions? Has anyone here tethered with an IPAQ 910, or at least a WM 6.1 PPC, through a different phone? (I do not mean using the IPAQ or other WM 6.1 phone as a modem for a laptop--but the opposite--connecting to the Internet on the IPAQ 910 or other WM 6.1 phone, by BT tethering through another phone.)
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
I tried today to tether an old PPC I have, the T-Mobile (USA) MDA (HTC Wizard, stock T-Mo AKU2 ROM, WM5) through the TM506, and it worked!
So, the problem is definitely not with the TM506, which works for tethering a laptop, and for tethering the Wizard.
The question is then--why won't the IPAQ 910 tether through it? It has all the right settings to tether (DUN) through another device, but it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I have a defective unit, or whether it is a problem with the whole model, or even of WM 6.1.
Has anyone here successfully tethered a WM 6.1 phone through another phone? Has anyone done so using an IPAQ 910?
Anyone here curious to try, and see if it works with your phone?
Could it be a problem with the Bluetooth stack? Do all WM 6.1 phones now have the MS stack, or do some have Widcomm? If there is a problem with outgoing BT DUN on the MS stack, is it possible to install the Widcomm stack? Or would that create other BT problems?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
I looked at the BT specs, from systeminfo, on the 910. This doesn't mean anything to me, but I'll post it here, in case it means something to someone:
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Firmware Version A05U
Hardware Revision: BlueCore4ROM
Driver Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
Software Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
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Does that mean anything to anyone reading?
Interesting--no mention of Microsoft or Broadcomm-Widcomm in any of that. (Unless the BC at the beginning of driver and software version stands for Broadcom).
I still have not found anything in Internet searches. Although I am not very knowledgeable about the WM registry, I decided to look a little there, and see if I find anything.
I see a registry key, that to me seems like it would govern outbound BT DUN from the phone:
HKLM\EXTModems\bluetooth_dun\
(Being that this is under external modems, I assume this key has to do with the outbound DUN I was discussing-dialing with the PPC to the internet, through another phone.)
Underneath it there are three values:
string value: FriendlyName=Bluetooth
string value: port=COM5
Dword: DeviceType=7
I am wondering whether--perhaps altering the second or third value, could get this to work?
Anyone know what the third one means-DeviceType=7?
With the second value, could it perhaps not be working, in that that is the incorrect com port? How would I find out what is the correct com port for this?
IN setting up the pairing between the IPAQ 910 and the SE TM506 (initiated from the IPAQ), in the choice of services, besides the dial-up-networking service, I believe there was the serial port profile, where one could set up a particular com port. There was no mention of that being necessary for setting up DUN, so I just chose the latter. However, should I re-pair, and also choose the serial port profile, and set up a com5?
Any other ideas?
Thank you.
Edit--I forgot to mention, under ExtModems, besides the key bluetooth_dun, there is also a key called bluetooth_dcn. What in the world is bt dcn?
I came upon a post on Modaco from 2005, regarding tethering a WM phone through another phone, at:
http://www.modaco.com/content/blue-angel-blueangel-modaco-com/202751/bluetooth-dun-profile/
I think much of it is not applicable to my situation, as two very different phones, different version of WM, etc.
However, I found the following quote from it interesting:
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"BTW - You can't go into Settings...Connections to set up your connection. For some reason it doesn't work. Don't ask me why. I have to use the Bluetooth Manager to connect."
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Well, as described, it also doesn't work for me to connect, through Settings-Connections-Connections. However, on my IPAQ 910, WM6.1, there is no other way to connect.
The author of the post quoted above says he can connect through "Bluetooth Manager". Well, I have no applet, either in Programs or Settings, called "Bluetooth Manager". There are of course Bluetooth settings, under Settings, Connections-Bluetooth. One can set up the pairing there, but there is no way to initiate a connection from there. One has to go into the Connections-Settings-Settings screen to set up the actual connection, and try to connect. I still cannot get that to work. (And now I have tried adding a BT serial port with the same com number as the registry key, as described above. Still did not work.)
I'm wondering--if there is some way I could get the app "Bluetooth Manager", would it install and work on my IPAQ 910? Where could I get that applet? Or is that app for the other BT stack?
3G modem with TM506
No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I have not looked here for a while.
I found it to work also using that SE software. That sets up the connections on the computer, so they can also be used without the SE software running.
Nothing special necessary to use 3G. But of course, T-Mo 3G is not spread throughout the country. Of course if you do not get a T-Mo 3g signal where you live, you cannot tether 3G. Do you get a 3G signal with the phone by itself?
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Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
Regards,
Nirbho
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Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
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If WiFi is on and connected successfully to the network, it should use WiFi. I sometimes find if I wander about, and the phone loses site of my Access Point without me noticing, the next time I request a webpage it will fire up GPRS. You say you're connected, but it sounds like the Vario doesn't think so. Are you sure you've got WEP/WPA keys correct, and that the Wireless AP isn't using MAC filtering? Have you been able to get onto the net with IE at all, or has it always tried to get out over GPRS instead?
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Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
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When you pair the Vario with the PC, both ends will offer a list of Bluetooth profiles they support. When I tried with my laptop and a 3com BT dongle, despite it working fine with my old iPAQ, the Wizard didn't seem to think that the laptop offered the ActiveSync service (or maybe the laptop didn't think the phone did, I can't remember for sure). You need to make sure that the Vario (if that's the "device" that's complaining) believes the PC is offering ActiveSync as a Bluetooth service, or it will assume it's only paired with other phones, GPS's, headsets etc, but nothing with which it could activesync.
Nirbho said:
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
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The ftp site here hosts a load of ROM's. I don't know of any that are noticeably better all around than any others. I have a Qtek phone, and although the later ROM fixes the BT voice-dial wake-up problem it also breaks, MMS and some bits of WiFi for some people. Others have installed the WWE version of a ROM and found that the keyboard doesn't match their hardware layout and some keys are wrong. They've then gone and broken button mappings trying to fix the keyboard problem. I know T-Mobile are the least subtle in their customisation, and many people seem to want to get rid of the pink look. I don't believe there is a clear winner in the ROM stakes. I've seen a few sigs that suggest people are starting to cook their own ROM with the GSM stack from one, the WiFi from another or whatever combination suits them. If you're up for doing the same, be my guest, but you may, unless you're experienced, find yourself worse off than you are now.
Have a look over in the "upgrading" forum and see what people seem to be using there. Be aware though, a lot of the "old timers" will be using I-Mate or Qtek devices which hit the streets before the O2 and T-Mobile variants, so they have had less device specific customisation done and were probabaly running a generic WWE (or localised) version anyway.
Hope that helps?
Dox.
Maybe I jumped the gun on this one... and I just haven't read enough yet. I flashed my Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) to the tmobile 2.6 ROM. Tmobile is my carrier, my PDA is now unlocked, and works ok for what it is, and I assume it's just like the tmobile MDA now.
I wanted to get my Nokia 770 on the net via a bluetooth tether. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just now realizing that I don't HAVE AKU 3.3, It more like 2.3 (14955.2.3.0). Forget the nokia for a minute, lets try PPC to PPC.
So I tried to keep it simple, and see if my widcomm BT stacked h6315 "client ppc" would find a BT DUN service on my "server ppc" (mda wizard 8125 hybrid). It finds NO services at first. Then I enable IR on the 8125, and a new incoming connection (com 6), and it shows up a serial port service on the client. That's useless to me right?
I SHOULD have BT DUN shouldn't I? Since I don't have the 3.3 ROM installed? Is there some simpler hack that I'm missing, like a registry hack along the likes of the PPC-6700 for tethering the sprint PDA? Or is it even dumber, like a check box I missed somewhere? That modem link tmobile software is garbage right?
katherine45 said:
Maybe I jumped the gun on this one... and I just haven't read enough yet. I flashed my Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) to the tmobile 2.6 ROM. Tmobile is my carrier, my PDA is now unlocked, and works ok for what it is, and I assume it's just like the tmobile MDA now.
I wanted to get my Nokia 770 on the net via a bluetooth tether. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just now realizing that I don't HAVE AKU 3.3, It more like 2.3 (14955.2.3.0). Forget the nokia for a minute, lets try PPC to PPC.
So I tried to keep it simple, and see if my widcomm BT stacked h6315 "client ppc" would find a BT DUN service on my "server ppc" (mda wizard 8125 hybrid). It finds NO services at first. Then I enable IR on the 8125, and a new incoming connection (com 6), and it shows up a serial port service on the client. That's useless to me right?
I SHOULD have BT DUN shouldn't I? Since I don't have the 3.3 ROM installed? Is there some simpler hack that I'm missing, like a registry hack along the likes of the PPC-6700 for tethering the sprint PDA? Or is it even dumber, like a check box I missed somewhere? That modem link tmobile software is garbage right?
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you don't need any reg hack - it SHOULD see the DUN profile as you have a pre-AKU3 ROM (as is also explained in my related tutorials).
I think the problem is caused by that the h6315, being a PPC PE device already, doesn't let for using EXTERNAL modems.
Give this a try: if you have a BT stick / built-in BT support for your notebook / desktop, try
1. to search for the BT DUN profile from there
2. enable the DUN service on the desktop and make the 6315 discover it, if it can
Thanks Menneisyys,
I do have a couple USB sticks, but right now I don't want to figure out what driver goes with what stick (office is a mess). I had it all setup on a laptop, for testing, but it's buried somewhere. I will if I need to though, but not till this weekend.
OTOH, when I was pairing the two PPC's (8125 and h6315), the h6315 offered DUN TO the 8125 (and I think file exchange). The h6315 can give and GET net access to/from my laptop via BT, as well as give to the nokia. I think I even tried getting net access via an old motorola v330 phone. The desktop was also configured at one time to give network access to the old X5 axim.
I remember it being maxed out at around 250kb/s (which is enough for EDGE, but shameful for sharing the laptop's 8mb/s connection at the office.)
The only problem with the h6315 was, it didn't support EDGE, and it's GPRS was toooooo slow from day one.
Thank you again! I've read many of your articles!
I was testing out the 10.4.9 Update that Apple released yesterday on my Macbook and noticed that a "Join Network on..." option now appears in the Bluetooth dropdown menu. Having already confirmed that the MissingSync trick works with USB I decided to try BT. I had to delete the pairing of my 8252 running the unreleased Cingular ROM b/c of some other issues that I created when trying to set up COM ports -- not sure if others will have to do this to get the Mac to see the phone as a PAN-able device. As soon as I added the phone is added to the Pairing List there is a message that "Personal Area Networking" service is enabled.
So, I went into the Internet Sharing app on the 8525, set the Mode to Bluetooth PAN, hit "Connect", and then used the Mac BT menu selection for "Join Network on <<device name>>". A few seconds later I had a 192.168.0.x IP and I confirmed connectivity with a speakeasy speedtest of 396/312. FWIW, the connection was made via the MediaNet connection (called Cingular GPRS on my phone) and I will be testing with a connection type that uses isp.cingular.com as the connection server at some point tonight.
Although the speed is not the best, I am quite glad to see that I have another connection option available in case of emergency.
I can confirm this works! Speed was 300/275 via BT PAN, then I plugged the USB cable in and got speeds of 905/318 (Speakeasy speed test). I'm in Sacramento (HSDPA) via the MediaNet wap.cingular APN. Looks like the BT 2.0 craps out at 300kbps.
My steps (I had a few extra to add to yours)
-I unpaired the devices on both the phone AND the MacBook
-Paired the devices FROM THE MACBOOK (Laptop sees that PAN is available)
-Unpaired the laptop ON THE PHONE side
-Paired the devices FROM THE PHONE (Connect via Bluetooth in the ActiveSync program)
I had to do the last two steps because when I paired from the laptop, the phone did not pick up the ActiveSync service, and so Missing Sync wouldn't sync via BT. Pairing from the phone side through the ActiveSync program fixed that up, and the laptop didn't need to make any changes so the PAN was still there.
Maybe if you pair from the phone first, you can avoid the last two steps? I'm not going to risk breaking my working setup to test it though. ;-)
Syncs via BT, and does PAN via BT now! Good thing you had to re-pair the devices =)
What Macbook are you using this on?
I can't seem to find the option on mine. (Core1 Macbook)
I'm trying the combo update in case something got missed in the diff update.
I'm using a 1st gen MacBook and cannot get Bluetooth PAN to work. Maybe for some reason this is only supported on the new 2nd gen MacBooks?
--Andrew
I don't think there's a difference in the bluetooth between the CDuo and C2D. (The wifi chip is different, but I think the bluetooth chip should be the same)
I do have a C2D though. All I can suggest is to unpair the devices from each other and try starting the pairing from the laptop again :-\
For reference, I used the diff updater (not the combo).
I've now tried this from both a C2D iMac and a CD MacBook - same result: no Bluetooth PAN. Perhaps something is messed up on my 8525, although the services listed for the device in Bluetooth preferences on the Macs list "Personal Ad-hoc Network" as one of the services. I just can't get my Macs to connect.
As to the update method, I've tried installing the combo updater on the MacBook to see if that made any differences (after initially downloading the update through Software Update) and haven't seen any difference.
--Andrew
Alright, so I am a complete newb...
Ive gotten a WM6 firmware on the 8525 now, and the 10.4.9 update on my mac.
What is AKU 3.3? I found the directions for installing it, but it seems to talk about some distribution of WM5?
So... onto my stupid questions: What does AKU stand for, how is it differnet from the OS, and where do I find version 3.3 of whatever AKU is.
According to the thread on installing AKU, the LVWM WM6 flash that I am using has AKU 0.0.
Sorry for the newbieness
just installed the update and re-paired the devices- it works great, even with my old g4 12" alu powerbook. thanks for posting this!
Is there any program that can make the PocketPC as a Access point, so we don't need the USB cable or Bluetooth PAN. Just a plain Access point from 3G?
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Alright, so I am a complete newb...
Sorry for the newbieness
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OK.. in an answer to my own question, AKU 3.3 seems to be some part of a WM5 ROM.
There are some images in the wiki that have AKU 3.3, and thusly work with in a PAN with my Macbook (yay!).
Is there anyone who got this working with any WM6 image?
I'm thinking you still need missing sync to accomplish this trick...because I'm not seeing the "Join network on..." option pop up and my C2D 15" MBP. Oh well...I sure was hoping that this would work...but I guess not.
Missing Sync not the answer
I have Missing Sync installed, and it doesn't allow me to use Bluetooth PAN. It may be a WM6 thing (I have WM6 installed), even though the Bluetooth PAN works fine from Boot Camp.
--Andrew
I have it working, but I am on WM5. cmascatello, are you also on WM5?
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I'm thinking you still need missing sync to accomplish this trick...because I'm not seeing the "Join network on..." option pop up and my C2D 15" MBP. Oh well...I sure was hoping that this would work...but I guess not.
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This is definitely not true. It is an Apple provided service. You have to enable internet sharing on the mobile before you try to pair it to the Mac, otherwise the Mac won't see the service.
chenga said:
I have it working, but I am on WM5. cmascatello, are you also on WM5?
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8525, WM5 Cingular pre-release ROM. My Macbook is a 2.0GHZ Black Core Duo with 2GB RAM and the Mac Pro 802.11n card installed (not that it matters). Also, FWIW, I do not have Internet Sharing enabled on the Mac -- you do have to connect from the phone Internet Sharing app. However, PAN option in the BT menu drop-down is always present now on my machine.
I am using a Dopod CHT9000 with the HTC WWE test ROM. MacBook Pro 17" C2D. The "Join network on <devicename>" option is also always in the BT menu on my Mac.
I just tested it out again, and the option to "Join network on <devicename>" in the Mac's bluetooth menu was grayed out. A reboot of OS X solved that and I was able to use bluetooth PAN again. If you can't get it to work, you may want to try rebooting.
Things to remember
-Re-pair devices to ensure that OS X 10.4.9 saw that PAN was available
-Be sure to use the "Internet Sharing" app (Start Menu->Programs) on the phone set to Bluetooth PAN
-Reboot OS X (Maybe soft reset the phone?)
I do not have Missing Sync and it is working.
The key is the ROM. I tried about 10 different ones before I found one that works. The latest Cingular test ROM from the wiki works...
Download link from the wiki...
Here is my data from Bluetooth->Prefrences
Device Name: PhonePOD
Device Address: xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
Device Type: Computer
Device Services: Service Discovery, A2DP, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Network Access Point, Audio Video Remote Control Profile
"Network access point" is what you need. "Adhoc Personal Networking" is not good enough it seems.
Maybe that's it...I'm using the WM6 Black Edition V1.1 and I'm lovin it...except for the stress of trying to get this thing working! Maybe it's just not compatible Maybe the new 1.2 jasjamming says is coming tomorrow will help out!
I definitely do NOT have it on my Macbook. I DID reboot it.
The weird thing is that the Mac will show you (in the overview of BT devices) the services a device offers, and it DOES list PAN as an service offered by the Tytn. However, when I then click on "Configure device" the ONLY service that it actually offers (box to check) is "use this device as a headset".
I am stumped.
chenga said:
I am using a Dopod CHT9000 with the HTC WWE test ROM. MacBook Pro 17" C2D. The "Join network on <devicename>" option is also always in the BT menu on my Mac.
I just tested it out again, and the option to "Join network on <devicename>" in the Mac's bluetooth menu was grayed out. A reboot of OS X solved that and I was able to use bluetooth PAN again. If you can't get it to work, you may want to try rebooting.
Things to remember
-Re-pair devices to ensure that OS X 10.4.9 saw that PAN was available
-Be sure to use the "Internet Sharing" app (Start Menu->Programs) on the phone set to Bluetooth PAN
-Reboot OS X (Maybe soft reset the phone?)
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I definitely do NOT have it on my Macbook. I DID reboot it.
The weird thing is that the Mac will show you (in the overview of BT devices) the services a device offers, and it DOES list PAN as an service offered by the Tytn. However, when I then click on "Configure device" the ONLY service that it actually offers (box to check) is "use this device as a headset".
I am stumped.
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Open System Preferences > Network and see if it offers you a new network port. Be sure to enable sharing on the device too.
Hello,
I've been searching the whole forum, but I cannot believe nobody is having the same problem (or idea) as I have:
BA is still great, but nowadays it's lack of 3G internet speed capability (no HSDPA or HSUPA, only gprs.. is becoming more and more quite a problem...
So I thought, wait, I'll connect my BA via bluetooth to another cell phone with 3G, HSDPA, etc. capabilities and basically connect to the internet through that phone, and have high speed internet!
However, I can't figure it out.
First I tried through DUN, but it turns out MS removed DUN from wm 6.1, and from what I can see, Internet sharing is not intended for this task. Or is it?
Can we have high speed internet on BA?
Thanks,
pooksee1802
I couldn't get it to work - but I have just got a 3G USB dongle which I hope will (with a connector cable) provide the old BA with 3G access..
I'm hoping I can configure the BA as if it were going through the USB activesync to the PC and so to the internet.
Anyone tried this yet??
hmm,
judging by the thread's view count it seems the issue is interesting, but unfortunately no answers...
c'mon guys, nobody interested in having high speed internet access on our BA's?
thank you!
in theory the scheme is simple but useless
you need laptop, 3g dongle connected to it and then BA connected to the laptop via cable (bluetooth is slow)and activesync, this is the only working way. This scheme is useless because if you carry the laptop why will do you need the BA?
there is no usb host on the BA so you can not connect the 3g usb dongle to it in any way, thats why you need the laptop
I am using BA with phone as Bluetooth modem towards HSPA network.
Actually, the initial purpose was to share one SIM card between phone and BA, which is more or less permanently installed in my car.
So far, the experience is good. I have 2Mbit HSDPA connection from Nokia E71 to my operator. Bluetooth link has a theoretical maximum speed of 1Mbit/s. In reality this is even slower, but way higher than you can get from EDGE Class 10.
The only problem is that THERE IS NO ROMs released lately, which support Bluetooth dialup. That's it.
ROMs I could get to work with phone as Bluetooth modem are WM5 ROMS and WM6 - "BA ROM CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0 PV DVH) 16MB PP (04)" (using it now).
All later builds do not even try to connect to BT DUN on phone and immediately show "Unable to dial *99#" prompt. No idea what they did to cripple BT DUN in WM 6.1 on BA.
the old dialup was dumped in all later ba rom builds but if it is required so much i can add it in a later build of my roms
Well, I would very appreciate it, really.
Stpark - that's exactly what I was trying to do!
Regarding BA's bluetooth speed, I was aware that it's bt is only ver. 1.1, that is quite slow, but I assumed it would nonetheless still be faster than ordinary gprs. Thanks again for the confirmation.
Stpark, by the way, searching for the "missing bluetooth DUN" I came across a WM developers blog, (http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx) who said that actually they didn't remove it from the ROMs completely, they just put it as an option, but due to user's demand they will return it to the standard package in WM 6.5.
Xplode, thank you for all the roms so far, and I would also appreciate very very much a rom with the DUN included, and I think many of us would as well... Thank you...
To be exactly precise on DUN... There is DUN and there is another DUN.
There is model where your BA acts as DUN host (i.e. you dial from PC using your handheld as modem).
And there is model where your BA acts as DUN client (i.e. you dial from BA using you whetever mobile phone as modem).
So far we are talking about second model, whereas Microsoft is dropping DUN for first. It means that BA as modem role is being replaced by BT PAN. I am not aware about Microsoft being dropped DUN client role in Windows Mobile.
It seem to be just an issue with composition of latest BA ROMs.
That's right, we need the "second" option, that is when the BA acts as a client connecting to a host mobile phone with 3g internet connection.
Be it as it may, because I don't know if MS did drop DUN altogether, or just the first, host mode operation, we need the second one. I'd say badly.
Now I'm hoping for a ROM with DUN in it... (xplode..xplode..
ps. I'm writing this on my BA connected to the net through gprs, speed: 5 kb/s, just like dialup, happytime...
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it when i solve them i will publish it
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it (due to proper translation from chinese) when i solve them i will publish it
I have a GPRS connection on my old (untrusty ) Sony Ericsson K700i that I want to share using bluetooth DUN. So far I managed to get it work in Windows7, openSuse 11.1 and WM2003 (widcomm stack), but it just won't work on my iPaq 614c.
I did all the logical steps:
-pair the phones over bluetooth
-select the DUN profile of my k700i
-add a new modem connection (in the My ISP section) that dials *99*# over bluetooth to my k700i
No matter what I try, it keeps telling me it can't connect (actualy, it doesn't even make a bluetooth connection to my k700i ).
Obviously, HP bundles the DUN profile with it's iPaqs, nevertheless I installed the dun cab file, but that didn't solve it either.
What to do ? What to do ?
wutske said:
I have a GPRS connection on my old (untrusty ) Sony Ericsson K700i that I want to share using bluetooth DUN. So far I managed to get it work in Windows7, openSuse 11.1 and WM2003 (widcomm stack), but it just won't work on my iPaq 614c.
I did all the logical steps:
-pair the phones over bluetooth
-select the DUN profile of my k700i
-add a new modem connection (in the My ISP section) that dials *99*# over bluetooth to my k700i
No matter what I try, it keeps telling me it can't connect (actualy, it doesn't even make a bluetooth connection to my k700i ).
Obviously, HP bundles the DUN profile with it's iPaqs, nevertheless I installed the dun cab file, but that didn't solve it either.
What to do ? What to do ?
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same problem for my 614c trying to reach my Nokia 6630.....
after some googlesearchs, i think some dll are missing, for example i cannot find where to set the modem init string needed for my french orange provider ( at+cgdcont=....)
afaik that modem string can be set somewhere in the registry.
But I don't think that's the problem since I never had to provide that info in windows, linux or wm2003.
perhaps this would help ?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4062.html
jpmatrix972 said:
perhaps this would help ?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4062.html
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hmm, the file seems to be missing, but the HP6515 seems to be using the widcomm stack so I'm not sure if it's supposed to be there.
I can't install the patch for some reason , seems like my iPaq realy doesn't want to dial in over BT
see
this andthis
xda too slow..double posted sorry
Okay, I guess I wasn't clear enough in my previous posts.
I want to share the GPRS connection on my Sony Ericsson K700i and use it on my iPaq 614c, I'll be using Bluetooth DUN for that because the old K700i doesn't support BT PAN.
My Ipaq 614c doesn't suffer from the BT DUN missing problem, the official ROM comes with BT DUN installed (at least, I can see the BT DUN service in the service list of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the problem: w of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the real problem: when I want this modem to make a connection, nothing happens. Windows Mobile doesn't initiate a bluetooth connection towards my K700i, it just shows a message that the connection has failed...
614c to ipaq 210
I am having diffulty pairing my 210 with my 614. I am trying to use my 614c as a modem in order for my 210 to connect to the internet. I can coonect to the internet just fine with my 614, I am with t-mobile/unlimited data plan. Since I am in the USA HP does not offer any support for this device(Big Surprise LOL) I have searched everywhere for a solution. I have tried using the BT Phone Manager, and I have tried to pair them them in the BT manager with the "connect to the internet via cellular phone" profile and my ipaq 210does not recognize the 614 as a "phone", but it does recognize it a "any device". If I select this option and try to pair them using this wizard I cannot get a succefull pairing after entering a passkey. I continually receive the error message that "requested service is not running on this device". Any help would be appreciated.
Thank-you
Sunday
wutske said:
Okay, I guess I wasn't clear enough in my previous posts.
I want to share the GPRS connection on my Sony Ericsson K700i and use it on my iPaq 614c, I'll be using Bluetooth DUN for that because the old K700i doesn't support BT PAN.
My Ipaq 614c doesn't suffer from the BT DUN missing problem, the official ROM comes with BT DUN installed (at least, I can see the BT DUN service in the service list of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the problem: w of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the real problem: when I want this modem to make a connection, nothing happens. Windows Mobile doesn't initiate a bluetooth connection towards my K700i, it just shows a message that the connection has failed...
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Hi,
Correct me if I get it wrong, but are you telling us you just start your connection-shortcut like that, expecting WM to turn on your BT ? Or do you activate BT before dialing in ?
In general, if BT is running, anything you throw at it should run.
Dirk
Both with BT on and off it fails .
Doesn't realy matter anymore, the K700i is dying. The network part of the phone crashes from time to time when I use it (calls, sms, gprs, ...) after which the phone shuts itself down.
Probably going to change my main carrier from Mobistar to Mobile Vikings so I have free gprs on my iPaq ^^
iPAQ 614c as Bluetooth Modem with HP iPAQ 210
After several days of searching for an answer on how to use my iPAQ 614c phone as an access point for my iPAQ 210, I hve finally acheived success. I hope this will spare anyone who is trying to do this the countless hours of phone calls that I have made with both HP and T-Mobiles Tech Support. "Tech Support"? I beg to differ. HP 's first answer was "hardware issue" send the device in for repairs. I called back in hopes to get a different rep-I did, he was a little more helpful, after an hour or so of troubleshooting he concluded, The device was fine, what I was trying to do was not supported on all the devices(A nice thing to know, AFTER YOU BUY IT!) T-Mobile, also very nice but just unbelievably clueless, there "Tier 3" rep who after an hour or so of troubleshooting said she would "call me back" never did.
During all phone coversations with both companies I asked numerous times about trying the "BT Phone Manager" that comes on the HP iPAQ 210. The first HP rep said that, "No one really uses this, that it is just extra software that comes with the iPAQ". The 2nd HP guy said, "that was not what that is for, it is used more for if you want to transfer numbers. Like if you want to use your 210 as a phone."(I really don't have IDIOT stamped on my forehead) None of the T-Mobile reps knew what I was talking about.
Why do I share all of this information? Because confession (in this case of my own ignorance) is good for the soul.
Oh, how do you get it to work?
1 Pick up your 210
-Turn Device on
-Turn Bluetooth On
2 Start\Programs\BT Phone Manager
- Press the Connect Button
- Follow all Pairing directions in walk through (It even tells you what to do on your cell phone)
Now, if you are like me, you will want to go into the: Settings\Connections\Bluetooth (Why? Because this is what every manual, every forum, every support rep has always told you to do.) DO NOT DO THIS, it is tempting to want to try to configure your own settings, thought being that you will need them the "next Time" you try to connect to your cell phone. Well, if you mess with the settings, THERE WON'T BE A NEXT TIME! You will end up like me, wasting alot of time, patience and unnecessary hard resets(3 during 1 phone conversation with HP),trying to fix something that worked to begin with!
Hope I helped someone, and if you do not have BT Phone Manager, there are cabs floating around everywhere, I know some people don't like it, but it does work. REALLY.
Sunday