AKU 3.3 PAN Now Works With Mac 10.4.9 Update... - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I was testing out the 10.4.9 Update that Apple released yesterday on my Macbook and noticed that a "Join Network on..." option now appears in the Bluetooth dropdown menu. Having already confirmed that the MissingSync trick works with USB I decided to try BT. I had to delete the pairing of my 8252 running the unreleased Cingular ROM b/c of some other issues that I created when trying to set up COM ports -- not sure if others will have to do this to get the Mac to see the phone as a PAN-able device. As soon as I added the phone is added to the Pairing List there is a message that "Personal Area Networking" service is enabled.
So, I went into the Internet Sharing app on the 8525, set the Mode to Bluetooth PAN, hit "Connect", and then used the Mac BT menu selection for "Join Network on <<device name>>". A few seconds later I had a 192.168.0.x IP and I confirmed connectivity with a speakeasy speedtest of 396/312. FWIW, the connection was made via the MediaNet connection (called Cingular GPRS on my phone) and I will be testing with a connection type that uses isp.cingular.com as the connection server at some point tonight.
Although the speed is not the best, I am quite glad to see that I have another connection option available in case of emergency.

I can confirm this works! Speed was 300/275 via BT PAN, then I plugged the USB cable in and got speeds of 905/318 (Speakeasy speed test). I'm in Sacramento (HSDPA) via the MediaNet wap.cingular APN. Looks like the BT 2.0 craps out at 300kbps.
My steps (I had a few extra to add to yours)
-I unpaired the devices on both the phone AND the MacBook
-Paired the devices FROM THE MACBOOK (Laptop sees that PAN is available)
-Unpaired the laptop ON THE PHONE side
-Paired the devices FROM THE PHONE (Connect via Bluetooth in the ActiveSync program)
I had to do the last two steps because when I paired from the laptop, the phone did not pick up the ActiveSync service, and so Missing Sync wouldn't sync via BT. Pairing from the phone side through the ActiveSync program fixed that up, and the laptop didn't need to make any changes so the PAN was still there.
Maybe if you pair from the phone first, you can avoid the last two steps? I'm not going to risk breaking my working setup to test it though. ;-)
Syncs via BT, and does PAN via BT now! Good thing you had to re-pair the devices =)

What Macbook are you using this on?
I can't seem to find the option on mine. (Core1 Macbook)
I'm trying the combo update in case something got missed in the diff update.

I'm using a 1st gen MacBook and cannot get Bluetooth PAN to work. Maybe for some reason this is only supported on the new 2nd gen MacBooks?
--Andrew

I don't think there's a difference in the bluetooth between the CDuo and C2D. (The wifi chip is different, but I think the bluetooth chip should be the same)
I do have a C2D though. All I can suggest is to unpair the devices from each other and try starting the pairing from the laptop again :-\
For reference, I used the diff updater (not the combo).

I've now tried this from both a C2D iMac and a CD MacBook - same result: no Bluetooth PAN. Perhaps something is messed up on my 8525, although the services listed for the device in Bluetooth preferences on the Macs list "Personal Ad-hoc Network" as one of the services. I just can't get my Macs to connect.
As to the update method, I've tried installing the combo updater on the MacBook to see if that made any differences (after initially downloading the update through Software Update) and haven't seen any difference.
--Andrew

Alright, so I am a complete newb...
Ive gotten a WM6 firmware on the 8525 now, and the 10.4.9 update on my mac.
What is AKU 3.3? I found the directions for installing it, but it seems to talk about some distribution of WM5?
So... onto my stupid questions: What does AKU stand for, how is it differnet from the OS, and where do I find version 3.3 of whatever AKU is.
According to the thread on installing AKU, the LVWM WM6 flash that I am using has AKU 0.0.
Sorry for the newbieness

just installed the update and re-paired the devices- it works great, even with my old g4 12" alu powerbook. thanks for posting this!

Is there any program that can make the PocketPC as a Access point, so we don't need the USB cable or Bluetooth PAN. Just a plain Access point from 3G?

unusedusername said:
Alright, so I am a complete newb...
Sorry for the newbieness
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OK.. in an answer to my own question, AKU 3.3 seems to be some part of a WM5 ROM.
There are some images in the wiki that have AKU 3.3, and thusly work with in a PAN with my Macbook (yay!).
Is there anyone who got this working with any WM6 image?

I'm thinking you still need missing sync to accomplish this trick...because I'm not seeing the "Join network on..." option pop up and my C2D 15" MBP. Oh well...I sure was hoping that this would work...but I guess not.

Missing Sync not the answer
I have Missing Sync installed, and it doesn't allow me to use Bluetooth PAN. It may be a WM6 thing (I have WM6 installed), even though the Bluetooth PAN works fine from Boot Camp.
--Andrew

I have it working, but I am on WM5. cmascatello, are you also on WM5?

mcsegeek said:
I'm thinking you still need missing sync to accomplish this trick...because I'm not seeing the "Join network on..." option pop up and my C2D 15" MBP. Oh well...I sure was hoping that this would work...but I guess not.
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This is definitely not true. It is an Apple provided service. You have to enable internet sharing on the mobile before you try to pair it to the Mac, otherwise the Mac won't see the service.

chenga said:
I have it working, but I am on WM5. cmascatello, are you also on WM5?
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8525, WM5 Cingular pre-release ROM. My Macbook is a 2.0GHZ Black Core Duo with 2GB RAM and the Mac Pro 802.11n card installed (not that it matters). Also, FWIW, I do not have Internet Sharing enabled on the Mac -- you do have to connect from the phone Internet Sharing app. However, PAN option in the BT menu drop-down is always present now on my machine.

I am using a Dopod CHT9000 with the HTC WWE test ROM. MacBook Pro 17" C2D. The "Join network on <devicename>" option is also always in the BT menu on my Mac.
I just tested it out again, and the option to "Join network on <devicename>" in the Mac's bluetooth menu was grayed out. A reboot of OS X solved that and I was able to use bluetooth PAN again. If you can't get it to work, you may want to try rebooting.
Things to remember
-Re-pair devices to ensure that OS X 10.4.9 saw that PAN was available
-Be sure to use the "Internet Sharing" app (Start Menu->Programs) on the phone set to Bluetooth PAN
-Reboot OS X (Maybe soft reset the phone?)

I do not have Missing Sync and it is working.
The key is the ROM. I tried about 10 different ones before I found one that works. The latest Cingular test ROM from the wiki works...
Download link from the wiki...
Here is my data from Bluetooth->Prefrences
Device Name: PhonePOD
Device Address: xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
Device Type: Computer
Device Services: Service Discovery, A2DP, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Network Access Point, Audio Video Remote Control Profile
"Network access point" is what you need. "Adhoc Personal Networking" is not good enough it seems.

Maybe that's it...I'm using the WM6 Black Edition V1.1 and I'm lovin it...except for the stress of trying to get this thing working! Maybe it's just not compatible Maybe the new 1.2 jasjamming says is coming tomorrow will help out!

I definitely do NOT have it on my Macbook. I DID reboot it.
The weird thing is that the Mac will show you (in the overview of BT devices) the services a device offers, and it DOES list PAN as an service offered by the Tytn. However, when I then click on "Configure device" the ONLY service that it actually offers (box to check) is "use this device as a headset".
I am stumped.
chenga said:
I am using a Dopod CHT9000 with the HTC WWE test ROM. MacBook Pro 17" C2D. The "Join network on <devicename>" option is also always in the BT menu on my Mac.
I just tested it out again, and the option to "Join network on <devicename>" in the Mac's bluetooth menu was grayed out. A reboot of OS X solved that and I was able to use bluetooth PAN again. If you can't get it to work, you may want to try rebooting.
Things to remember
-Re-pair devices to ensure that OS X 10.4.9 saw that PAN was available
-Be sure to use the "Internet Sharing" app (Start Menu->Programs) on the phone set to Bluetooth PAN
-Reboot OS X (Maybe soft reset the phone?)
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nispen said:
I definitely do NOT have it on my Macbook. I DID reboot it.
The weird thing is that the Mac will show you (in the overview of BT devices) the services a device offers, and it DOES list PAN as an service offered by the Tytn. However, when I then click on "Configure device" the ONLY service that it actually offers (box to check) is "use this device as a headset".
I am stumped.
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Open System Preferences > Network and see if it offers you a new network port. Be sure to enable sharing on the device too.

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Browsing LAN from PPC

Is it possible to browse my LAN from my XDAII using only my USB cradle? I'm using Resco Explorer. I tried this:
1. Select My Network root directory
2. Selected Map Drive... from the Advanced Toolbar
... to no avail.
Open up internet explorer. Put in the address bar the following \\"computer name or IP of computer" then click on the little go button and waa laa it will work. The go button doesn't say go, but in essence it is the same it is to the right of the address bar.
Mike
As far as I was aware it's not possible to browse network files from an XDA2 unless you use an SDIO wi-fi card, and sure enough I can't get Mikee's suggestion to work. If I type into IE's address bar '\\192.168.1.100' and click Go, that gets replaced with 'file//\\192.168.1.100\' (almost like it's trying to connect for me) but then immediately I get a 'Network path cannot be found' error.
Pity, cos it'd be great to be able to do this. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, Mikee?
You can partially blame Microsoft for this with their "My network card connects to {work} or {the internet}..." paradigm.
It's one of the most irritating things about the Windows Mobile OS.
Let's suppose you have a Wireless Card or (in my XDAIIi's case) internal Wireless turned on. By default, WinMob2003(&SE) decides arbitarily that your network card connects to the Internet.
This is fine if you are using a Wireless AP hooked up to ADSL at home for your Home LAN as it will just connect via your AP and go straight through to the Internet. However, guess what you have to do to be able to connect to any local machines on your LAN? You guessed it, you have to go into the advanced connection setting and change the "My network card connects to..." to "Work"!! You will then be able to map a drive either using Resco Explorer or even the inbuilt explorer, of any machine that your PPC can "see". Don't forget that permissions etc will need to be setup first though so that you can login to said machine.
That's fine, however, guess what you WON'T be able to do while you have that setting at "Work"? You guessed it, you WON'T be able to connect to the Internet!
I'm afraid it's either one OR the other and NOT both together.
I went through all this wireless bit because it equally applies to when you are simply connected via the cradle using Activesync. In the "Pass-through" settings of AS, you'll find it set to "The Internet" by default and like this, you will not be able to access local machines on the LAN connected via your desktop or a switch/hub. If you change it to "Work", however, you will. Then of course, the same applies as to the wireless setup. With it at "Work" you won't have access to "The Internet" and vice-versa.
I can only guess that the PPC situation is like this because the WinMob2003(&SE) OS does NOT have a FULL network client built into it that behaves as a Windows Desktop PC would. So, basically, it's a cludge.
You can partially blame Microsoft for this with their "My network card connects to {work} or {the internet}..." paradigm.
It's one of the most irritating things about the Windows Mobile OS.
Let's suppose you have a Wireless Card or (in my XDAIIi's case) internal Wireless turned on. By default, WinMob2003(&SE) decides arbitarily that your network card connects to the Internet.
This is fine if you are using a Wireless AP hooked up to ADSL at home for your Home LAN as it will just connect via your AP and go straight through to the Internet. However, guess what you have to do to be able to connect to any local machines on your LAN? You guessed it, you have to go into the advanced connection setting and change the "My network card connects to..." to "Work"!! You will then be able to map a drive either using Resco Explorer or even the inbuilt explorer, of any machine that your PPC can "see". Don't forget that permissions etc will need to be setup first though so that you can login to said machine.
That's fine, however, guess what you WON'T be able to do while you have that setting at "Work"? You guessed it, you WON'T be able to connect to the Internet!
I'm afraid it's either one OR the other and NOT both together.
I went through all this wireless bit because it equally applies to when you are simply connected via the cradle using Activesync. In the "Pass-through" settings of AS, you'll find it set to "The Internet" by default and like this, you will not be able to access local machines on the LAN connected via your desktop or a switch/hub. If you change it to "Work", however, you will. Then of course, the same applies as to the wireless setup. With it at "Work" you won't have access to "The Internet" and vice-versa.
I can only guess that the PPC situation is like this because the WinMob2003(&SE) OS does NOT have a FULL network client built into it that behaves as a Windows Desktop PC would. So, basically, it's a cludge.
strange , im using the XDA2s and my wifi settings are set to see internet , but in file explore or rosco file explorer they both see my lan fine in file exlore all i doo is click on the netfolder ickon at the bottom and then enter \\ (then the computer name) eg \\bedroompc this works both for my work network and home
henny
Firstly, my apologies for the double post above. I only pushed the submit button once, honest!
I was actually describing the "standard" way that all of O2's XDA's get setup when they are first turned on from new and that means that usually, under "Connections", "Select Networks" then "Network Management", you will normally see "My ISP" in the top box for progs that automatically connect to the Internet and "My Work Network" in the lower box for progs that automatically connect to a private network and this is where the problem lays.
In hindsight, I wasn't particularly helpful to Tetragrammaton since I didn't provide the actual solution he was looking for simply because I got too wrapped up in bashing the PPC's network client (or lack of a full one anyway...)
The solution is of course to simply make the bottom box equal to the top box (i.e. "My ISP") and immediately this will change the behaviour to that as you so correctly described (being able to connect to the Internet and to a Local LAN machine simultaneously) and will obviate the need to swap the destination of the Network Card settings themselves (which only gives one way connectivity with Wireless anyway).
I'm guessing that your machine is set this way Henny? Which of course will work as you describe.
The only caveat to doing this is that you disable the O2 WAP settings (which are normally configured under the "My Work Network" part) but whether this is a great loss is a moot point. In any case, the lower box in "Network Management" can always be switched back temporarily should you need the WAP settings back.
I hope this has now helped Tetragrammaton to get up and running...
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I would be too.. anyways, thanks a lot y'all for the info.
CPNowell said:
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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True and you are absolutely right on all counts. Browsing LAN machines via activesync using an XDAII in a USB cradle.
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CPNowell said:
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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True and you are absolutely right on all counts. Browsing LAN machines via activesync using an XDAII in a USB cradle.
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In that case I'm confused . Sorry. If it doesn't work in the cradle, but you're not talking about doing it through a wi-fi connection, what does your solution actually do? Apologies if I'm being a bit thick here - I'm ill with the 'flu.
I'm nervous about starting to mess about with the connections settings on my XDA2 just so that I can browse files on the network - every time I do this I end up screwing them up. I don't understand them at all and usually a hard reset with the auto-config is the only way to get it all working again. :roll:
I'll do a synopsis of this thread so far this evening. Bit tied up at work at the moment. Hope that's ok...
This has been covered many many times. It is impossible as currently set up. The best way to achieve this is to buy Pocket LAN, it works perfectly
I've had a quick look at that but that would be for just Wireless LAN connectivity, right? ...and as has already been pointed out to me (correctly), the original question was not about wireless.
NO!!!! This works through active sync with the xda in the cradle, worked on xda2 and 2i for me. Actually it is a bit of a waste of money as i never use it, though it seemed agreat idea at the time.
barney12345 said:
NO!!!! This works through active sync with the xda in the cradle, worked on xda2 and 2i for me. Actually it is a bit of a waste of money as i never use it, though it seemed agreat idea at the time.
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I've googled "Pocket LAN" and came up with a bunch of hits though none of them seem to be the right hit. If Pocket LAN seems to do the trick of accessing a network via the USB cradle only, could you post the link to Pocket LAN? Thanks!
http://www.pocketlance.com/register/index.shtml it says for ce or 2002 but works on 2003 and 2003se.
Hope this helps
You can find it (PocketLAN) here...
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=2825
Contrary to what Barney found, it didn't work at all for my XDAIIi in the cradle. The usual "network path not found" was all it could muster...
Even wirelessly I found it cumbersome and a bit iffy at connecting to machines at times. It does no more than Resco Explorers built-in network stuff. It also seeks to start messing with the device name etc and generally "muscle-in" and take over... Resco Exp does it without fuss, quietly and efficiently. More importantly, it works everytime but I'm afraid even it can't manage to connect to LAN machines through the cradle and AS.
Sorry about no (promised) post last night. Just didn't get the time. I'll try again for later today.
http://www.pocketlance.com/ try this link as well you can get a trial download

Problems Using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth

Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
Regards,
Nirbho
Nirbho said:
Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
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If WiFi is on and connected successfully to the network, it should use WiFi. I sometimes find if I wander about, and the phone loses site of my Access Point without me noticing, the next time I request a webpage it will fire up GPRS. You say you're connected, but it sounds like the Vario doesn't think so. Are you sure you've got WEP/WPA keys correct, and that the Wireless AP isn't using MAC filtering? Have you been able to get onto the net with IE at all, or has it always tried to get out over GPRS instead?
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Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
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When you pair the Vario with the PC, both ends will offer a list of Bluetooth profiles they support. When I tried with my laptop and a 3com BT dongle, despite it working fine with my old iPAQ, the Wizard didn't seem to think that the laptop offered the ActiveSync service (or maybe the laptop didn't think the phone did, I can't remember for sure). You need to make sure that the Vario (if that's the "device" that's complaining) believes the PC is offering ActiveSync as a Bluetooth service, or it will assume it's only paired with other phones, GPS's, headsets etc, but nothing with which it could activesync.
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ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
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The ftp site here hosts a load of ROM's. I don't know of any that are noticeably better all around than any others. I have a Qtek phone, and although the later ROM fixes the BT voice-dial wake-up problem it also breaks, MMS and some bits of WiFi for some people. Others have installed the WWE version of a ROM and found that the keyboard doesn't match their hardware layout and some keys are wrong. They've then gone and broken button mappings trying to fix the keyboard problem. I know T-Mobile are the least subtle in their customisation, and many people seem to want to get rid of the pink look. I don't believe there is a clear winner in the ROM stakes. I've seen a few sigs that suggest people are starting to cook their own ROM with the GSM stack from one, the WiFi from another or whatever combination suits them. If you're up for doing the same, be my guest, but you may, unless you're experienced, find yourself worse off than you are now.
Have a look over in the "upgrading" forum and see what people seem to be using there. Be aware though, a lot of the "old timers" will be using I-Mate or Qtek devices which hit the streets before the O2 and T-Mobile variants, so they have had less device specific customisation done and were probabaly running a generic WWE (or localised) version anyway.
Hope that helps?
Dox.

Bluetooth Dial Up networking on < AKU 3.3

Maybe I jumped the gun on this one... and I just haven't read enough yet. I flashed my Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) to the tmobile 2.6 ROM. Tmobile is my carrier, my PDA is now unlocked, and works ok for what it is, and I assume it's just like the tmobile MDA now.
I wanted to get my Nokia 770 on the net via a bluetooth tether. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just now realizing that I don't HAVE AKU 3.3, It more like 2.3 (14955.2.3.0). Forget the nokia for a minute, lets try PPC to PPC.
So I tried to keep it simple, and see if my widcomm BT stacked h6315 "client ppc" would find a BT DUN service on my "server ppc" (mda wizard 8125 hybrid). It finds NO services at first. Then I enable IR on the 8125, and a new incoming connection (com 6), and it shows up a serial port service on the client. That's useless to me right?
I SHOULD have BT DUN shouldn't I? Since I don't have the 3.3 ROM installed? Is there some simpler hack that I'm missing, like a registry hack along the likes of the PPC-6700 for tethering the sprint PDA? Or is it even dumber, like a check box I missed somewhere? That modem link tmobile software is garbage right?
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Maybe I jumped the gun on this one... and I just haven't read enough yet. I flashed my Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) to the tmobile 2.6 ROM. Tmobile is my carrier, my PDA is now unlocked, and works ok for what it is, and I assume it's just like the tmobile MDA now.
I wanted to get my Nokia 770 on the net via a bluetooth tether. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just now realizing that I don't HAVE AKU 3.3, It more like 2.3 (14955.2.3.0). Forget the nokia for a minute, lets try PPC to PPC.
So I tried to keep it simple, and see if my widcomm BT stacked h6315 "client ppc" would find a BT DUN service on my "server ppc" (mda wizard 8125 hybrid). It finds NO services at first. Then I enable IR on the 8125, and a new incoming connection (com 6), and it shows up a serial port service on the client. That's useless to me right?
I SHOULD have BT DUN shouldn't I? Since I don't have the 3.3 ROM installed? Is there some simpler hack that I'm missing, like a registry hack along the likes of the PPC-6700 for tethering the sprint PDA? Or is it even dumber, like a check box I missed somewhere? That modem link tmobile software is garbage right?
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you don't need any reg hack - it SHOULD see the DUN profile as you have a pre-AKU3 ROM (as is also explained in my related tutorials).
I think the problem is caused by that the h6315, being a PPC PE device already, doesn't let for using EXTERNAL modems.
Give this a try: if you have a BT stick / built-in BT support for your notebook / desktop, try
1. to search for the BT DUN profile from there
2. enable the DUN service on the desktop and make the 6315 discover it, if it can
Thanks Menneisyys,
I do have a couple USB sticks, but right now I don't want to figure out what driver goes with what stick (office is a mess). I had it all setup on a laptop, for testing, but it's buried somewhere. I will if I need to though, but not till this weekend.
OTOH, when I was pairing the two PPC's (8125 and h6315), the h6315 offered DUN TO the 8125 (and I think file exchange). The h6315 can give and GET net access to/from my laptop via BT, as well as give to the nokia. I think I even tried getting net access via an old motorola v330 phone. The desktop was also configured at one time to give network access to the old X5 axim.
I remember it being maxed out at around 250kb/s (which is enough for EDGE, but shameful for sharing the laptop's 8mb/s connection at the office.)
The only problem with the h6315 was, it didn't support EDGE, and it's GPRS was toooooo slow from day one.
Thank you again! I've read many of your articles!

X1 tethering with mac

hey guys,
I tried to use usb tethering to a macbook today while I am at the airport... however unlike the blackjack2 that I have (which just work once I plug in and install the driver automatically) the x1 doesnt do anything. When I look into the internet setting I see the winmo device was connected... however as soon as I turn on internet sharing on the phone, the winmo device became disconnected
anyone have any idea what am I doing wrong?
Depends what you mean by tethering … If you mean using your X1 as a broadband modem, I've found that using the bluetooth DUN on OS X is the easiest method. If this meets your needs, (1.) establish a bluetooth pair between your macbook and X1. Then (2) on the X1 start up the internet sharing app and click connect. Your X1 should say "connected." Then (3) on your macbook open the bluetooth preference either from system preferences or the BT icon on the top bar by the clock. Select your X1 in the left sidebar. In the right-hand panel it will say 'not connected.' With your X1 selected go down to the 'perform tasks' button next to the minus sign in the bottom left-hand corner of the panel; select 'connect to network' and with any luck your status should change to connected and you should then be able to access the net on your macbook. Disconnect from either phone or macbook when finished.
I've tried to tether using USB, but haven't been successful. Don't think it works on the Mac becoz (I think) internet sharing requires ActiveSync on the PC which doesn't exist on OS X. I use MissingSync on my macbook, which hasn't got internet sharing capability. Also tried SyncMate which does share but it grabs every USB device imaginable which is sooo annoying especially when trying to connect a USB device to a Parallels VM.
Not sure why you're not using your wifi/airport connection for internet access on your phone (if you're trying to work the other way) unless of course it isn't connected to the internet.
Hope this helps.
nonno said:
Depends what you mean by tethering … If you mean using your X1 as a broadband modem, I've found that using the bluetooth DUN on OS X is the easiest method. If this meets your needs, (1.) establish a bluetooth pair between your macbook and X1. Then (2) on the X1 start up the internet sharing app and click connect. Your X1 should say "connected." Then (3) on your macbook open the bluetooth preference either from system preferences or the BT icon on the top bar by the clock. Select your X1 in the left sidebar. In the right-hand panel it will say 'not connected.' With your X1 selected go down to the 'perform tasks' button next to the minus sign in the bottom left-hand corner of the panel; select 'connect to network' and with any luck your status should change to connected and you should then be able to access the net on your macbook. Disconnect from either phone or macbook when finished.
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the reason why I am not using the airport connection is becoz in US... most of the airport dont provide free internet access.... and they will charge you $10 for 24 hours...
thanks for your information btw~
good thing san diego airport wifi is free. i am about to test it this week when i fly out.
as for tethering, you might need to install the wm dun to get it to work.
or you can try enable internet sharing and see if that works.
c_legaspi said:
good thing san diego airport wifi is free. i am about to test it this week when i fly out.
as for tethering, you might need to install the wm dun to get it to work.
or you can try enable internet sharing and see if that works.
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I tried the bt dun last night and it worked for me =) however I am still trying to get usb tethering work w/o any sync software involved.... I know this can be done becoz thats how my blackjack2 is doing it... I guess it just depends on if I can get the right driver or not
odobo said:
I tried the bt dun last night and it worked for me =) however I am still trying to get usb tethering work w/o any sync software involved.... I know this can be done becoz thats how my blackjack2 is doing it... I guess it just depends on if I can get the right driver or not
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what's the solution with tethering on the x1 with a laptop/ win or mac without installing activesync?

Tethering IPAQ 910 (WM 6.1)through Sony Ericsson TM506

Two phones--HP IPAQ 910 (runs WM 6.1 Professional), and a Sony Ericsson TM506 (dumbphone). I could use either, with my T-Mobile (USA) SIM card. However, although the IPAQ has 3G, that will not work on T-Mobile, which uses a different band for 3G.
The TM506 works very well as a 3G modem for my laptops, giving me a fast Internet connection on the go, when there is no available wi-fi connection. It also works well as a phone. Of course, it has much elss PDA capability than the IPAQ, much worse keyboard for text input (just a normal phone keypad), and much smaller screen.
Therefore, two phones, one SIM card, the following looks like the best solution to me--leave the SIM in the TM506, and use that as a phone. (If the battery runs out, the IPAQ could be used as a backup phone.) Also use the TM506 as a 3G modem, both for laptops, and for the IPAQ.
Use the IPAQ as a PDA, and as a small internet device, connected via wi-fi or tethered through the Tm506.
The problem is--although tethering from a laptop to the TM506 works fine, I cannot get the IPAQ to tether through it. I set up the BT pairing, I choose the DUN service, I successfully set up a connection in the Connections tab, routed through the BT modem (TM506), using the same settings as on the laptop. Everything looks like it is set up correctly.
However, when I try to connect through that connection, I always get an error message very quickly, about "cannot connect for unknown reason".
I've tried so many things, over days now, and cannot get it to work. I've scoured the Internet looking for info, and found nothing that works for me.
Does anyone here have any suggestions? Has anyone here tethered with an IPAQ 910, or at least a WM 6.1 PPC, through a different phone? (I do not mean using the IPAQ or other WM 6.1 phone as a modem for a laptop--but the opposite--connecting to the Internet on the IPAQ 910 or other WM 6.1 phone, by BT tethering through another phone.)
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
I tried today to tether an old PPC I have, the T-Mobile (USA) MDA (HTC Wizard, stock T-Mo AKU2 ROM, WM5) through the TM506, and it worked!
So, the problem is definitely not with the TM506, which works for tethering a laptop, and for tethering the Wizard.
The question is then--why won't the IPAQ 910 tether through it? It has all the right settings to tether (DUN) through another device, but it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I have a defective unit, or whether it is a problem with the whole model, or even of WM 6.1.
Has anyone here successfully tethered a WM 6.1 phone through another phone? Has anyone done so using an IPAQ 910?
Anyone here curious to try, and see if it works with your phone?
Could it be a problem with the Bluetooth stack? Do all WM 6.1 phones now have the MS stack, or do some have Widcomm? If there is a problem with outgoing BT DUN on the MS stack, is it possible to install the Widcomm stack? Or would that create other BT problems?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
I looked at the BT specs, from systeminfo, on the 910. This doesn't mean anything to me, but I'll post it here, in case it means something to someone:
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Firmware Version A05U
Hardware Revision: BlueCore4ROM
Driver Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
Software Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
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Does that mean anything to anyone reading?
Interesting--no mention of Microsoft or Broadcomm-Widcomm in any of that. (Unless the BC at the beginning of driver and software version stands for Broadcom).
I still have not found anything in Internet searches. Although I am not very knowledgeable about the WM registry, I decided to look a little there, and see if I find anything.
I see a registry key, that to me seems like it would govern outbound BT DUN from the phone:
HKLM\EXTModems\bluetooth_dun\
(Being that this is under external modems, I assume this key has to do with the outbound DUN I was discussing-dialing with the PPC to the internet, through another phone.)
Underneath it there are three values:
string value: FriendlyName=Bluetooth
string value: port=COM5
Dword: DeviceType=7
I am wondering whether--perhaps altering the second or third value, could get this to work?
Anyone know what the third one means-DeviceType=7?
With the second value, could it perhaps not be working, in that that is the incorrect com port? How would I find out what is the correct com port for this?
IN setting up the pairing between the IPAQ 910 and the SE TM506 (initiated from the IPAQ), in the choice of services, besides the dial-up-networking service, I believe there was the serial port profile, where one could set up a particular com port. There was no mention of that being necessary for setting up DUN, so I just chose the latter. However, should I re-pair, and also choose the serial port profile, and set up a com5?
Any other ideas?
Thank you.
Edit--I forgot to mention, under ExtModems, besides the key bluetooth_dun, there is also a key called bluetooth_dcn. What in the world is bt dcn?
I came upon a post on Modaco from 2005, regarding tethering a WM phone through another phone, at:
http://www.modaco.com/content/blue-angel-blueangel-modaco-com/202751/bluetooth-dun-profile/
I think much of it is not applicable to my situation, as two very different phones, different version of WM, etc.
However, I found the following quote from it interesting:
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"BTW - You can't go into Settings...Connections to set up your connection. For some reason it doesn't work. Don't ask me why. I have to use the Bluetooth Manager to connect."
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Well, as described, it also doesn't work for me to connect, through Settings-Connections-Connections. However, on my IPAQ 910, WM6.1, there is no other way to connect.
The author of the post quoted above says he can connect through "Bluetooth Manager". Well, I have no applet, either in Programs or Settings, called "Bluetooth Manager". There are of course Bluetooth settings, under Settings, Connections-Bluetooth. One can set up the pairing there, but there is no way to initiate a connection from there. One has to go into the Connections-Settings-Settings screen to set up the actual connection, and try to connect. I still cannot get that to work. (And now I have tried adding a BT serial port with the same com number as the registry key, as described above. Still did not work.)
I'm wondering--if there is some way I could get the app "Bluetooth Manager", would it install and work on my IPAQ 910? Where could I get that applet? Or is that app for the other BT stack?
3G modem with TM506
No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I have not looked here for a while.
I found it to work also using that SE software. That sets up the connections on the computer, so they can also be used without the SE software running.
Nothing special necessary to use 3G. But of course, T-Mo 3G is not spread throughout the country. Of course if you do not get a T-Mo 3g signal where you live, you cannot tether 3G. Do you get a 3G signal with the phone by itself?

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